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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on October 11, 2016, 05:42:52 PM
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I predict chaos in Congress, and such vitriol nothing will get done on anything, even common ground issue. Political wars have to stop.
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Royals extend Danny Duffy sometime in late november/early december
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Obama pardons a record amount of felons
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ken bone becomes spokesperson for subway or pizza hut or geico or something
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Hillary will reveal she is in fact the devil and that the end times have begun. And also that Obama was the devil too.
Congress' approval ratings improve slightly.
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Democrats take all 3 and and we all rub it in loser republicans face because they did it to themselves and then we stack the court with ultralibs and party into utopia
It's going to be very positive for the nation :love:
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Not much will change. Life will go on as usual. I have serious doubts presidential elections are important at all anymore.
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Hill wins and everything stays pretty much the same except pubs are more butthurt than ever. Try to impeach her etc
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Obama will buy a big house in DC with teleprompters in every room and hold daily press conferences to let everyone know how poorly the current president is doing.
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I'll get up in the morning, get dressed and go to work. I'll then hear my wack brother go off the deep end and have to tell him to shut the eff up.
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Obama will buy a big house in DC with teleprompters in every room and hold daily press conferences to let everyone know how poorly the current president is doing.
LOL that totally sounds like something oBAMa would do!!!! :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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The economy is going to crash, and not because of whomever wins the election, we're just in a major QE bubble right now and the ride can't last forever.
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The economy is going to crash, and not because of whomever wins the election, we're just in a major QE bubble right now and the ride can't last forever.
Aren't Democrats usually pretty good at prolonging bubbles, though? Just keep accumulating government debt and expand the public sector.
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The economy is going to crash, and not because of whomever wins the election, we're just in a major QE bubble right now and the ride can't last forever.
Aren't Democrats usually pretty good at prolonging bubbles, though? Just keep accumulating government debt and expand the public sector.
They won't be able to prolong it another 4 years. Chickens coming home to roost.
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The economy is going to crash, and not because of whomever wins the election, we're just in a major QE bubble right now and the ride can't last forever.
could certainly see a correction
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National debt accumulation will continue to be "just numbers".
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National debt accumulation will continue to be "just numbers".
Regardless of who wins
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Yeah, both party plans seem to want to spend a crap load more and cut some form of taxes. If anyone is concerned about bubbles or corrections, there is no solution being presented.
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Yeah, both party plans seem to want to spend a crap load more and cut some form of taxes. If anyone is concerned about bubbles or corrections, there is no solution being presented.
Presented by those concerned or presented by the candidates?
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Those running for office.
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Yeah, both party plans seem to want to spend a crap load more and cut some form of taxes. If anyone is concerned about bubbles or corrections, there is no solution being presented.
I haven't seen where Hillary wants to cut taxes. She's proposing an increase iirc.
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She says she wants to cut middle class taxes
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I agree there could be a bubble but it isn't because of inflation which has been scare quoted forever on here and the QE has prevented the us from looking more like Europe.
As for the national debt? Lol. Good grief, social security is solvent, there is no emergency, our debt to GDP ratio is fine. Carry on.
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KK why do you think there could be a bubble then?
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She says she wants to cut middle class taxes
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She has the most net neutral plan, but the tax code is going to get confusing to make the math work. She's going to use credits and the like to ease the middle class instead of just simplifying the code based on rates.
I mean, whatever, it's fine. I may ultimately just need to hire an accountant instead of doing them myself.
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So Hillary's plan to lessen the tax burden on the middle class requires that everyone hire a CPA? :thumbs:
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So Hillary's plan to lessen the tax burden on the middle class requires that everyone hire a CPA? :thumbs:
No, but I'll probably need one.
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It sounds like a shitty plan, really.
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I predict we'll still be looking for a house. Should we lock in an interest rate before or after the election?
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KK why do you think there could be a bubble then?
I think that there is a lot of money globally looking for a good, safe return and we are entering a low growth period as more and more emerging markets mature. low interest rates on 10 year T bonds mean more money than ever is being stashed in securities and real estate.
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re. bubble, like the guy with the noble prize says, no one can even define a bubble. re. qe - everyone (2-3 years ago even more everyone) loves to blame qe, but there's no real evidence that qe has caused asset price inflation. it is becoming more clear that for the past 5 years, growth was low and there were global deflationary pressures which were more than adequate to explain the low interest rates. it is much harder to predict if the next 5, 10, and 25 years will see the same environment, but if most investors expect that it will, then asset prices are pretty rational.
if asset prices fall in the next four years, it will probably be because the consensus about the direction of growth/interest rates changes. will that have made the current situation a bubble? like the guy says, there's no way to say.
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KK why do you think there could be a bubble then?
I think that there is a lot of money globally looking for a good, safe return and we are entering a low growth period as more and more emerging markets mature. low interest rates on 10 year T bonds mean more money than ever is being stashed in securities and real estate.
Where is this money coming from?
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Assuming Trump goes mental spastic or frothing maddog tonight, I predict Hillary Clinton will name Al Gore head of EPA.
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Madamn President. Gridlock in Congress. Healthcare crisis. Oil crisis. Stupid wars. We become second class like UK. Social and moral unrest escalates. I learn to live with it cause I can't do anything about it; voters in places like Kansas don't matter.
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15$/hr min wage murders the $5 hot and ready
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KK why do you think there could be a bubble then?
I think that there is a lot of money globally looking for a good, safe return and we are entering a low growth period as more and more emerging markets mature. low interest rates on 10 year T bonds mean more money than ever is being stashed in securities and real estate.
Where is this money coming from?
lot of it from oligarchs in emerging economies.
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Madamn President. Gridlock in Congress. Healthcare crisis. Oil crisis. Stupid wars. We become second class like UK. Social and moral unrest escalates. I learn to live with it cause I can't do anything about it; voters in places like Kansas don't matter.
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re. bubble, like the guy with the noble prize says, no one can even define a bubble. re. qe - everyone (2-3 years ago even more everyone) loves to blame qe, but there's no real evidence that qe has caused asset price inflation. it is becoming more clear that for the past 5 years, growth was low and there were global deflationary pressures which were more than adequate to explain the low interest rates. it is much harder to predict if the next 5, 10, and 25 years will see the same environment, but if most investors expect that it will, then asset prices are pretty rational.
if asset prices fall in the next four years, it will probably be because the consensus about the direction of growth/interest rates changes. will that have made the current situation a bubble? like the guy says, there's no way to say.
No, the problem is that the market for assets right now could be a bubble because everyone is interdependent upon steady returns being above the interest rates being offered by safe, stable, western bond markets which are locked in a low growth holding pattern.
I'm not sure if the growth/consumption we can count on from emerging economies as consumption in the major economies peaks will be enough to sustain the growth model these securities prices are projecting.
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Bubble is when actual earnings are down but stock value doesn't correspondingly go down. It's fake value.
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Bubble is when actual earnings are down but stock value doesn't correspondingly go down. It's fake value.
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right.
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Well,.suprise. Trump.will put together an.excellent cabinet.
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Well,.suprise. Trump.will put together an.excellent cabinet.
Giuliani, Gingrich etc. Hurl
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How hilarious will it be if trump snubs giuliani?
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Democrats take all 3 and and we all rub it in loser republicans face because they did it to themselves and then we stack the court with ultralibs and party into utopia
It's going to be very positive for the nation :love:
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How hilarious will it be if trump snubs giuliani?
Hopefully and very
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How hilarious will it be if trump snubs giuliani?
Hopefully and very
Hilarious and good for everyone
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Democrats take all 3 and and we all rub it in loser republicans face because they did it to themselves and then we stack the court with ultralibs and party into utopia
It's going to be very positive for the nation :love:
:ROFL:
There were way more racisty people than I thought
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Once people get off work I'm sure that's when the REAL riots will get going.
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Get your abortions now folks.
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Or use protection/birth control like normal adults. :dunno:
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Markets are getting crushed right now
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I'm sad.
I'm sad that there are so many racist, misogynist, homophobes that Trump could get this many votes. I thought we were moving past that.
I'm sad that suburban white women would use the privileged afforded to them by the suffering of many women before them to vote for someone who hates them.
I'm sad that the third party voters thought it was more important to make a statement than to protect their fellow Americans from policies that could take away their rights and dignity as human beings.
I'm sad that my lesbian friend is afraid she won't have the chance to marry her girlfriend. I'm sad that my transgender friend is fearful that future legislation will not protect them.
I'm sad that there is the possibility that American women in the future will have to consider unsafe illegal abortions.
I'm sad that many of those assholes are my own family members.
I'm really sad that my dad would have been the only family member I could have commiserated with and I can't call him. :cry:
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Or use protection/birth control like normal adults. :dunno:
Fall in line, Wacks. It's abstinence only unless you are trying to create a human being.
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I'm sad.
I'm sad that there are so many racist, misogynist, homophobes that Trump could get this many votes. I thought we were moving past that.
I'm sad that suburban white women would use the privileged afforded to them by the suffering of many women before them to vote for someone who hates them.
I'm sad that the third party voters thought it was more important to make a statement than to protect their fellow Americans from policies that could take away their rights and dignity as human beings.
I'm sad that my lesbian friend is afraid she won't have the chance to marry her girlfriend. I'm sad that my transgender friend is fearful that future legislation will not protect them.
I'm sad that there is the possibility that American women in the future will have to consider unsafe illegal abortions.
I'm sad that many of those assholes are my own family members.
I'm really sad that my dad would have been the only family member I could have commiserated with and I can't call him. :cry:
That's tough to read, I'm sorry. I don't think Roe vs Wade and gay marriage are in any danger though, hopefully there's some solace in that.
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I'm curious if/when none of these fears become reality in the next 4 years how badly Trump will crush whoever the D's push out to get crushed. It could really be a bloodbath.
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I would love to be so wrong 4yrs from now that I prefer to vote Trump than the other options available. That would be really great.
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I'm sad.
I'm sad that there are so many racist, misogynist, homophobes that Trump could get this many votes. I thought we were moving past that.
I'm sad that suburban white women would use the privileged afforded to them by the suffering of many women before them to vote for someone who hates them.
I'm sad that the third party voters thought it was more important to make a statement than to protect their fellow Americans from policies that could take away their rights and dignity as human beings.
I'm sad that my lesbian friend is afraid she won't have the chance to marry her girlfriend. I'm sad that my transgender friend is fearful that future legislation will not protect them.
I'm sad that there is the possibility that American women in the future will have to consider unsafe illegal abortions.
I'm sad that many of those assholes are my own family members.
I'm really sad that my dad would have been the only family member I could have commiserated with and I can't call him. :cry:
That's tough to read, I'm sorry. I don't think Roe vs Wade and gay marriage are in any danger though, hopefully there's some solace in that.
Sooo... everyone who voted for Trump is a racist homophobe? Just making sure I understand this correctly.
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I'm sad.
I'm sad that there are so many racist, misogynist, homophobes that Trump could get this many votes. I thought we were moving past that.
I'm sad that suburban white women would use the privileged afforded to them by the suffering of many women before them to vote for someone who hates them.
I'm sad that the third party voters thought it was more important to make a statement than to protect their fellow Americans from policies that could take away their rights and dignity as human beings.
I'm sad that my lesbian friend is afraid she won't have the chance to marry her girlfriend. I'm sad that my transgender friend is fearful that future legislation will not protect them.
I'm sad that there is the possibility that American women in the future will have to consider unsafe illegal abortions.
I'm sad that many of those assholes are my own family members.
I'm really sad that my dad would have been the only family member I could have commiserated with and I can't call him. :cry:
That's tough to read, I'm sorry. I don't think Roe vs Wade and gay marriage are in any danger though, hopefully there's some solace in that.
Sooo... everyone who voted for Trump is a racist homophobe? Just making sure I understand this correctly.
I certainly didn't say that but I think you're being very disingenuous if you don't see why people would think that. It's over, you won, it's okay to point out the type of campaign that allowed this to happen.
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I'm sad.
I'm sad that there are so many racist, misogynist, homophobes that Trump could get this many votes. I thought we were moving past that.
I'm sad that suburban white women would use the privileged afforded to them by the suffering of many women before them to vote for someone who hates them.
I'm sad that the third party voters thought it was more important to make a statement than to protect their fellow Americans from policies that could take away their rights and dignity as human beings.
I'm sad that my lesbian friend is afraid she won't have the chance to marry her girlfriend. I'm sad that my transgender friend is fearful that future legislation will not protect them.
I'm sad that there is the possibility that American women in the future will have to consider unsafe illegal abortions.
I'm sad that many of those assholes are my own family members.
I'm really sad that my dad would have been the only family member I could have commiserated with and I can't call him. :cry:
That's tough to read, I'm sorry. I don't think Roe vs Wade and gay marriage are in any danger though, hopefully there's some solace in that.
Sooo... everyone who voted for Trump is a racist homophobe? Just making sure I understand this correctly.
I certainly didn't say that but I think you're being very disingenuous if you don't see why people would think that. It's over, you won, it's okay to point out the type of campaign that allowed this to happen.
Sorry MIR... didn't mean to quote your response. I was asking Mrs. Gooch if she really believes that. it seems like a really sweeping generalization... I did not support or vote for Trump.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
This is totally fair.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
Probably all of them. People are stupid when they get too emotional. The guy is a dick... I get it... but he will be checked when needed. Relax.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Very well said. I agree.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
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Markets are getting crushed up 1% right now
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
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Shut up with the fear mongering Trump is a racist, sexist, whatever else bullshit you whiny rough ridin' libtard idiots. That's a one-size fits all Republicans costume your masters conjured up to scare you into supporting their substanceless party.
Identity politics are dead. Good riddance. It was divisive bullshit that fueled trumps crap stomping of a racist, homophobic, bigoted, well-documented liar, cheater and crook. The hypocrisy you clowns are exhibiting is off the charts absurd.
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@ some people, FSD
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
Excessive government surveillance.
Yeah, Trump will be worse, but would have been a valid concern about a Hillary presidency.
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Don't be afraid friends, Alphas are'nt out to hurt anybody.
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I can't government surveillance could be any more intrusive than it already is. Also is that a right being taken away?
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I can't government surveillance could be any more intrusive than it already is. Also is that a right being taken away?
It can always get worse, and yes I consider many aspects of our surveillance program violations of the 4th amendment.
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Fair enough
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Cold War II and selling secrets for cash seemed pretty risky.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
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I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.
Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
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And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
I mean we've heard rumors of Rudy Guliani as Trump's Attorney General and he has advocated torturing prisoners and bombing family members of people he has decided are terrorists. You think he'd have a problem with a little more wiretapping?
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A bunch of Trump supporters are racists, bigots, misogynists, and/or homophobes. Many probably don't think of themselves that way or even act that way in general everyday life, but if you want a racist, bigot, misogynist, homophobe to be president then you are at least a little bit racist, bigoted, misogynist or homophobic.
Trump needed more than just out right white male racists to win. He also needed people who were too stupid or short sighted or disengaged to understand what electing this type of man means for themselves or other Americans.
Honestly, the most troubling part is not what Trump's policies will be (although that's a concern) but the fact that there exist so many people in this country that support his views.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.
Absolutely it does, but whatever.
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And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
I mean we've heard rumors of Rudy Guliani as Trump's Attorney General and he has advocated torturing prisoners and bombing family members of people he has decided are terrorists. You think he'd have a problem with a little more wiretapping?
Trump also noted that he thinks stop and frisk should be national and could be appointing the stop and frisk king to AG.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.
Absolutely it does, but whatever.
I see it as more of a due process violation.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.
Absolutely it does, but whatever.
I see it as more of a due process violation.
That's the shrooms talking buddy.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.
Absolutely it does, but whatever.
Do you know what the second amendment reads? Every amendment has provisions guiding them, every single one. I can't legally walk up to you and tell you I'm going to murder you then chop you up and feed you to pigs. Does that violate the first amendment?
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.
Absolutely it does, but whatever.
I see it as more of a due process violation.
I don't agree with that either but a sound argument could be made for it. Saying it violates the second amendment is moronic, paste eating, NRA rhetoric.
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Deprivation of a right/privilege without due process of law, but w/e.
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It's semantics, and who cares what number the right has next to it. A right is a right, and people had concerns she would try to deprive them of some of them. Case closed.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
Biden doesn't need to be blamed for crap. His son had just passed away at the beginning of primary season.
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yes, the uninspired choice of Kaine as VP is the smoking gun imo
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I hate to see moderate caftans so upset, keep your chin up people, 45 gave a great unifying speech last night. He intends to work hard for all of us, he's a great guy and you will see that in time.
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I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.
Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.
millions of IPA4Me's are what were completely underrepresented and ultimately smoked hilldawg. silence on any support for trump and then once it was safe to come out, oh hi guys
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I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.
Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.
millions of IPA4Me's are what were completely underrepresented and ultimately smoked hilldawg. silence on any support for trump and then once it was safe to come out, oh hi guys
Yep, all these "undecided" voters were just Trump'rs not willing to come out of the closet.
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I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.
Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.
millions of IPA4Me's are what were completely underrepresented and ultimately smoked hilldawg. silence on any support for trump and then once it was safe to come out, oh hi guys
I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of IPA4Me
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iirc from the beer thread, IPA4ME has a horrible looking deck and a fantastic looking tile backsplash
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The Dow is up. There were reports from the floor of the NYSE that during the Clinton speech that she was booed and they chanted "lock her up."
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There is nothing but an extremely ripe opportunity for a few loud lib voices to turn into the next Rush or Hannity.
R's in house, senate, and WH.
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I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.
Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.
Good grief.
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
I guess all liberals have shown to be super narcissistic lazy crap heads on this board: hippy introverts, pot heads; who hate children, and want free crap. I mean just look at all these guys on this board that show these signs. Lib can't get over himself and chases dax around, MIR always has to be right, Mocat says he's in the middle but that's just the biggest lol of all time, etc. Sad really.
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A bunch of Trump supporters are racists, bigots, misogynists, and/or homophobes. Many probably don't think of themselves that way or even act that way in general everyday life, but if you want a racist, bigot, misogynist, homophobe to be president then you are at least a little bit racist, bigoted, misogynist or homophobic.
Trump needed more than just out right white male racists to win. He also needed people who were too stupid or short sighted or disengaged to understand what electing this type of man means for themselves or other Americans.
Honestly, the most troubling part is not what Trump's policies will be (although that's a concern) but the fact that there exist so many people in this country that support his views.
So did all Hillary voters want some crap head criminal, extreme liar, who's bought her way into office, and her husband who has had several tie ins with being a womanizer, want a shitty healthcare plan, etc.?
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The Dow is up. There were reports from the floor of the NYSE that during the Clinton speech that she was booed and they chanted "lock her up."
Haha
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A bunch of Trump supporters are racists, bigots, misogynists, and/or homophobes. Many probably don't think of themselves that way or even act that way in general everyday life, but if you want a racist, bigot, misogynist, homophobe to be president then you are at least a little bit racist, bigoted, misogynist or homophobic.
Trump needed more than just out right white male racists to win. He also needed people who were too stupid or short sighted or disengaged to understand what electing this type of man means for themselves or other Americans.
Honestly, the most troubling part is not what Trump's policies will be (although that's a concern) but the fact that there exist so many people in this country that support his views.
The views we support are his tax plan, the economy, ripping obamacare apart, etc. It's not shitting on BLM, grabbing women by the ***** and forcing dumbasses who don't know how to use protection, to have their baby. It will never happen. You don't have to be 100% on board with every topic the man says.
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http://kcci.com/article/many-dm-students-walk-out-protest-election-results/8262947?src=app
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I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.
Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.
Good grief.
I will admit I'm a little bit racist and border line crazy conservative.
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
I guess all liberals have shown to be super narcissistic lazy crap heads on this board: hippy introverts, pot heads; who hate children, and want free crap. I mean just look at all these guys on this board that show these signs. Lib can't get over himself and chases dax around, MIR always has to be right, Mocat says he's in the middle but that's just the biggest lol of all time, etc. Sad really.
:ROFL:
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
I guess all liberals have shown to be super narcissistic lazy crap heads on this board: hippy introverts, pot heads; who hate children, and want free crap. I mean just look at all these guys on this board that show these signs. Lib can't get over himself and chases dax around, MIR always has to be right, Mocat says he's in the middle but that's just the biggest lol of all time, etc. Sad really.
Don't do this wacky. Now is the time for healing.
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There was so much more context behind that, mocat. Stop being a crap head. Do you have wacky posts on speed dial or something?
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
I guess all liberals have shown to be super narcissistic lazy crap heads on this board: hippy introverts, pot heads; who hate children, and want free crap. I mean just look at all these guys on this board that show these signs. Lib can't get over himself and chases dax around, MIR always has to be right, Mocat says he's in the middle but that's just the biggest lol of all time, etc. Sad really.
Don't do this wacky. Now is the time for healing.
I guess defending yourself doesn't fit into their agenda, whatever, let lib be the weirdo that he is.
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There was so much more context behind that, mocat. Stop being a crap head. Do you have wacky posts on retainer or something?
nope, your posts are doing this pro bono
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There was so much more context behind that, mocat. Stop being a crap head. Do you have wacky posts on retainer or something?
nope, your posts are doing this pro bono
Copied on word document, in case someone's being mean to your boy lib?
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
I guess all liberals have shown to be super narcissistic lazy crap heads on this board: hippy introverts, pot heads; who hate children, and want free crap. I mean just look at all these guys on this board that show these signs. Lib can't get over himself and chases dax around, MIR always has to be right, Mocat says he's in the middle but that's just the biggest lol of all time, etc. Sad really.
For the record, i love my child and all other children.
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Child? There are 3??
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
wtf mate, i love drake's new song
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I'm sad.
I'm sad that there are so many racist, misogynist, homophobes that Trump could get this many votes. I thought we were moving past that.
I'm sad that suburban white women would use the privileged afforded to them by the suffering of many women before them to vote for someone who hates them.
I'm sad that the third party voters thought it was more important to make a statement than to protect their fellow Americans from policies that could take away their rights and dignity as human beings.
I'm sad that my lesbian friend is afraid she won't have the chance to marry her girlfriend. I'm sad that my transgender friend is fearful that future legislation will not protect them.
I'm sad that there is the possibility that American women in the future will have to consider unsafe illegal abortions.
I'm sad that many of those assholes are my own family members.
I'm really sad that my dad would have been the only family member I could have commiserated with and I can't call him. :cry:
Hi MrsG, couple things...
1. I'm really sorry you can't talk to your dad about this. My political discussion with my dad are one of the things I cherish most, so I'm really sorry you've lost that. But I bet if you really think and pray on it, he can still speak to you.
2. Check out my silver linings post - there really are some. http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=38336.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=38336.0)
3. Things seem bad now, but they're really not as bad as you depict. Your gay friend has nothing to fear. Abortion rights will remain largely untouched. And while I know you can't see it now, those people you are calling racists, misogynists (all of whom have mothers, sisters, daughters, etc.), and homophobes had very legitimate reasons to vote against Hillary Clinton, and even for Donald Trump.
Keep your head up.
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There was so much more context behind that, mocat. Stop being a crap head. Do you have wacky posts on retainer or something?
nope, your posts are doing this pro bono
Copied on word document, in case someone's being mean to your boy lib?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi65.tinypic.com%2F2pyt81y.jpg&hash=bb4fe0d275f5d0387bc58e34b745b7125c447f24)
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Almost didn't include you stunz, everyone knows non-whites can't be racist
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So pence said in an interview that they will "absolutely" be walking back pro-lgbt stuff Obama has done. Great job "not racists" and "not homophobes" in voting for this bad person
:goodbyecruelworld:
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When you vote for a board character, who you don't know, you have no right to bitch about who other people voted for.
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So pence said in an interview that they will "absolutely" be walking back pro-lgbt stuff Obama has done. Great job "not racists" and "not homophobes" in voting for this bad person
:goodbyecruelworld:
Is he talking about the bathroom edict whereby schools needed to allow boys identifying as girls to use the girls locker room? The thing that is currently being litigated based upon Title IX? Because that was really dumb, senseless pandering that could stand to be tossed out.
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Most definitely, There's a 100% chance they're not changing gay marriage or gay marriage rights.
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I am sad that there will not be a Trump news network for Ammon and Cliven to get their show.
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the biggest silver lining will be overlooked, as it will not happen (ww3)
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So pence said in an interview that they will "absolutely" be walking back pro-lgbt stuff Obama has done. Great job "not racists" and "not homophobes" in voting for this bad person
:goodbyecruelworld:
Pence is a stupid bigot and if I hear one more person refer to him as a "good man" I'm going to rage. His most dangerous tool is his mouth and now he has a large platform to spread his bullshit. Obama didn't do much of anything pro LGBT, the supreme court did. This isn't his shitty cowpatch called Indiana, he isn't undoing a rough ridin' thing when it comes to LGBT rights. He could run Indiana like a bigoted Banana Republic, as VP he can't do a rough ridin' thing.
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The silver lining with Pence is that even if you disagree with his positions, he's a good man.
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Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.
I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit... If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.
What specific fears are overblown?
You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Really? Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.
Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.
She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm. I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late.
And rusty nailed the privacy concern. I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been. I could be wrong though. Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.
That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.
I think that in at least some instances it does. It sort of depends on how you ended up on the no fly list. It's awkward to me to deny the rights of somebody who hasn't even had a trial or been convicted of anything.
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Dickstone, the trump TV could still happen. Don was setting that up with his Son In Law, apparently.
Ammon could still get his show!
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The silver lining with Pence is that even if you disagree with his positions, he's a good man.
Lol
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I'm sad.
I'm sad that there are so many racist, misogynist, homophobes that Trump could get this many votes. I thought we were moving past that.
I'm sad that suburban white women would use the privileged afforded to them by the suffering of many women before them to vote for someone who hates them.
I'm sad that the third party voters thought it was more important to make a statement than to protect their fellow Americans from policies that could take away their rights and dignity as human beings.
I'm sad that my lesbian friend is afraid she won't have the chance to marry her girlfriend. I'm sad that my transgender friend is fearful that future legislation will not protect them.
I'm sad that there is the possibility that American women in the future will have to consider unsafe illegal abortions.
I'm sad that many of those assholes are my own family members.
I'm really sad that my dad would have been the only family member I could have commiserated with and I can't call him. :cry:
Hi MrsG, couple things...
1. I'm really sorry you can't talk to your dad about this. My political discussion with my dad are one of the things I cherish most, so I'm really sorry you've lost that. But I bet if you really think and pray on it, he can still speak to you.
2. Check out my silver linings post - there really are some. http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=38336.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=38336.0)
3. Things seem bad now, but they're really not as bad as you depict. Your gay friend has nothing to fear. Abortion rights will remain largely untouched. And while I know you can't see it now, those people you are calling racists, misogynists (all of whom have mothers, sisters, daughters, etc.), and homophobes had very legitimate reasons to vote against Hillary Clinton, and even for Donald Trump.
Keep your head up.
oh boy
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The silver lining with Pence is that even if you disagree with his positions, he's a good man.
Denied, he's a piece of crap. Remember the shitty relationship Dick Cheney had with the rest of the administration, the public, and the press? Pence will be that x10. eff Mike Pence, I hope someone stabs him with an AIDS needle.
In 1996, Pence wrote a column (dug up by Ari Rabin-Havt) for the Indiana Policy Review, the magazine of a think tank (by the same name) Pence once ran. In it, Pence lamented the Republican Party’s ‘96 convention and its softer approach, by comparison, toward minorities. Pence pined for the days of the infamous ‘92 “culture war” convention, where virulent homophobe and nativist Pat Buchanan delivered a fire and brimstone jeremiad in prime time that sent a jolt through the electorate and, some believe, helped sink George H.W. Bush’s re-election that year.
Pence lamented that the ‘96 convention supposedly spotlighted “an endless line of pro-choice women, AIDS activists and proponents of affirmative action” — not-so-subtle code for feminists, gays and blacks — which was textbook hyperbole, since there was hardly an “endless line” of such people. Mary Fischer, for example, a Republican woman with AIDS, was the first and only AIDS activist to speak that year at the Republican National Convention. But that was clearly one too many for Pence
He also said, “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexuals as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.”
eff Mike Pence, if its announced tomorrow that he has a massive heart attack or a terminal illness, I'll throw a huge kegger.
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The silver lining with Pence is that even if you disagree with his positions, he's a good man.
Denied, he's a piece of crap. Remember the shitty relationship Dick Cheney had with the rest of the administration, the public, and the press? Pence will be that x10. eff Mike Pence, I hope someone stabs him with an AIDS needle.
In 1996, Pence wrote a column (dug up by Ari Rabin-Havt) for the Indiana Policy Review, the magazine of a think tank (by the same name) Pence once ran. In it, Pence lamented the Republican Party’s ‘96 convention and its softer approach, by comparison, toward minorities. Pence pined for the days of the infamous ‘92 “culture war” convention, where virulent homophobe and nativist Pat Buchanan delivered a fire and brimstone jeremiad in prime time that sent a jolt through the electorate and, some believe, helped sink George H.W. Bush’s re-election that year.
Pence lamented that the ‘96 convention supposedly spotlighted “an endless line of pro-choice women, AIDS activists and proponents of affirmative action” — not-so-subtle code for feminists, gays and blacks — which was textbook hyperbole, since there was hardly an “endless line” of such people. Mary Fischer, for example, a Republican woman with AIDS, was the first and only AIDS activist to speak that year at the Republican National Convention. But that was clearly one too many for Pence
He also said, “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexuals as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.”
eff Mike Pence, if its announced tomorrow that he has a massive heart attack or a terminal illness, I'll throw a huge kegger.
will you invite some chicks?
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My wife is in a book club, I'm sure some of them are passable. Most of the women I know might be too young for you. They're all iowans though, you may want to hold out for some chicks from Arkansas, Oklahoma, Idaho, West Virginia, or Kentucky though.
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Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc... They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.
Get over yourself...i'm neither a racist or sexist and neither are 95% of the Republicans that voted for Trump. We were/are tired of the current flawed system and want some substantial change.
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For the record, gE and its owners & operators are not offering a free keg to anyone at this time. Those promises can go awry.
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ShellShock you're my guy but 95% is way too high.
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For the record, gE and its owners & operators are not offering a free keg to anyone at this time. Those promises can go awry.
:ROFL:
I'm good for it, we just need a natural death of Mike Pence sometime before January 20, 2017. The theme of the party will be "Ding Dong the Dick is Dead."
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ShellShock you're my guy but 95% is way too high.
The primary results indicate that the number is somewhere around 50%.
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ShellShock you're my guy but 95% is way too high.
95% might have been a high point...juices were flowing though so i shot from the hip. We can agree that the number is definitely lower than 95%.
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She should report this to the police. Any evidence it actually happened? Fake hate crimes aren't unusual and wouldn't surprise me at all the day after such a traumatic win for "the hateful bigot."
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it was a false flag aka a bogus bottle
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:lol:
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This article expresses my disappointment better than I can.
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/11/09/heres-why-we-grieve-today/
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the whites are starting on the minorities early
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFO8LKtjak8
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This article expresses my disappointment better than I can.
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/11/09/heres-why-we-grieve-today/
That is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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Gotta agree with Carnes here.
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Gotta agree with Carnes here.
I'm a little disappointed by this. Aside from co-signing the repugnant language, can't you muster a little bit of empathy, for at least 24 hours? Let people deal with this how they can, it isn't rough ridin' hurting you.
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point taken. i just think people are being a touch melodramatic about all of this.
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How hilarious will it be if trump snubs giuliani?
More hilarious than when he snubs Chris Christie, which I think he will. But he'll find a place for Rudy.
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A bunch of Trump supporters are racists, bigots, misogynists, and/or homophobes. Many probably don't think of themselves that way or even act that way in general everyday life, but if you want a racist, bigot, misogynist, homophobe to be president then you are at least a little bit racist, bigoted, misogynist or homophobic.
Trump needed more than just out right white male racists to win. He also needed people who were too stupid or short sighted or disengaged to understand what electing this type of man means for themselves or other Americans.
Honestly, the most troubling part is not what Trump's policies will be (although that's a concern) but the fact that there exist so many people in this country that support his views.
Solid post.
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Gotta agree with Carnes here.
I'm a little disappointed by this. Aside from co-signing the repugnant language, can't you muster a little bit of empathy, for at least 24 hours? Let people deal with this how they can, it isn't rough ridin' hurting you.
it's a new alphamerica. no more participation trophies. no more safe spaces. those playing the victim game will be left with no hugs. from the 48 laws of alpha (which i read cover to cover every day):
(https://i.gyazo.com/87dc45c006d2ec94445827bad3c2d110.png)
i am a nice guy though, so i will offer some words of encouragement to those in pain, some scraps if you will. ivanka will be the first female president one day, and she will be tremendous.
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I agree that it is melodramatic. I also think he made some good points. I appreciate his thought that many people are upset because of something that extends beyond politics. And that it is more about things like how we ought to treat each other. For something less melodramatic, see Stan Van Gundy's thoughts.
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Gotta agree with Carnes here.
I'm a little disappointed by this. Aside from co-signing the repugnant language, can't you muster a little bit of empathy, for at least 24 hours? Let people deal with this how they can, it isn't rough ridin' hurting you.
it's a new alphamerica. no more participation trophies. no more safe spaces. those playing the victim game will be left with no hugs. from the 48 laws of alpha (which i read cover to cover every day):
(https://i.gyazo.com/87dc45c006d2ec94445827bad3c2d110.png)
ha!
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48 laws of being alpha :lol:
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Stunz you should put the 48 laws of alpha on a plaque in a prominent place like Snyder's 16 goals success at BSFS
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Taking daily direction on how to be alpha seems pretty beta to me
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If you're truly alpha why would you need a book telling you how to be alpha?
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This article expresses my disappointment better than I can.
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/11/09/heres-why-we-grieve-today/
This is rough ridin' insane, good grief. The left is so mentally frail, so irrational.
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Portland is still going to be weird, guys.
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I agree that it is melodramatic. I also think he made some good points. I appreciate his thought that many people are upset because of something that extends beyond politics. And that it is more about things like how we ought to treat each other. For something less melodramatic, see Stan Van Gundy's thoughts.
Sure. Trump was a brute and a bully throughout his campaign. It's troubling that that sort of behavior worked to get him elected.
That's said, I don't necessarily think his being elected as a result of that behavior is some American existential crisis. I imagine plenty of people (most?) voted for him in spite of his antics and rhetoric, not because of them.
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Do we need to have a press conference to give Hillary her Certificate of Participation so the millennials know the competition is over?
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Do we need to have a press conference to give Hillary her Certificate of Participation so the millennials know the competition is over?
millennials :curse:
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If you're truly alpha why would you need a book telling you how to be alpha?
I didn't read it, I wrote it
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
When it's your team that's being shitty, people will rationalize just about anything and keep supporting the team. Just look at Baylor and Penn State.
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
When it's your team that's being shitty, people will rationalize just about anything and keep supporting the team. Just look at Baylor and Penn State.
Yep. The same thing could probably be said of hillary supporters rationalizing her scandals.
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
When it's your team that's being shitty, people will rationalize just about anything and keep supporting the team. Just look at Baylor and Penn State.
Yep. The same thing could probably be said of hillary supporters rationalizing her scandals.
how's that saying go about too often we judge others by their worst examples while we view ourselves with the best of intentions?
the hysteria over all of this is annoying, but I can empathize with the fear that a lot of people feel. Trump and his supporters said many disgusting things throughout this campaign. If I were a minority, I would most likely be very upset.
I don't feel like articulating the rest of my thoughts on the issue.
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
That's what happens when you are close minded. But you're ok with that and want to continue with your head up your ass. And speaking of people being shitty to each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIM1ED0__BI
But you don't have to watch, it won't align with your views.
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I agree that it is melodramatic. I also think he made some good points. I appreciate his thought that many people are upset because of something that extends beyond politics. And that it is more about things like how we ought to treat each other. For something less melodramatic, see Stan Van Gundy's thoughts.
Sure. Trump was a brute and a bully throughout his campaign. It's troubling that that sort of behavior worked to get him elected.
That's said, I don't necessarily think his being elected as a result of that behavior is some American existential crisis. I imagine plenty of people (most?) voted for him in spite of his antics and rhetoric, not because of them.
You don't think it could be a shock to the system to some people that 50,000,000 in this country thought it was okay to rationalize voting for someone who behaves like he does? He is now the leader of the free world and he just a few months ago stood on a stage and mocked a guy with cerebral palsy. I think it is shocking to some because people, mostly privileged, think the number of people willing to swallow his behavior and allow him to be the most powerful person in the world would be a small fraction of 50,000,000. I think trump is full of crap so I think he will pretty much do what the Republican establishment wants him to do, but I completely understand some people being upset about this many people willing to be okay with Trump's behavior. I consider myself woke so this isn't that surprising to me.
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They were both terrible, awful candidates. People have to vote for someone.
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They were both terrible, awful candidates. People have to vote for someone.
Like Tom
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If a super stud like Stan Van Gundy says he's never been ashamed of America before now, then that's good enough for me to know that there's a pretty good difference between Trump and any other candidate in recent history.
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I guess Stan was totally cool when we invaded a sovereign state over misinterpreted (fabricated?) evidence of WMD's and completely destabilized an already volatile region of the world.
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Bloodthirsty war pig DAX sure loved it
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I can picture Stan, dax, and Hillary walking a warehouse full of daisy cutters and salivating over all the people they'd get to kill. Women and children, too.
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
You realize obama was extremely and exuberently shitty to about half the country, right? Far worse than any other president ever. In 6 years he have all 3 branches of government to the pubs he was so shitty.
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I am particularly enjoying the illegal immigrants protesting with "not my president" signs. They're right!
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
You realize obama was extremely and exuberently shitty to about half the country, right? Far worse than any other president ever. In 6 years he have all 3 branches of government to the pubs he was so shitty.
That's the Obama Paradox. He's going to leave office with an approval rating over 50%, but his policies and politics have decimated the Democrat Party.
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I am particularly enjoying the illegal immigrants protesting with "not my president" signs. They're right!
Where are you seeing this?
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It's shocking that such a large amount of people were unaware that roughly half of the population of their country disagreed with them on many political and social issues.
I am surprised that I was surprised. Again, though, it's not so much about the "issues" as it is about tacit acceptance or endorsement of people being shitty to each other. I had no idea that people are so okay with that.
That's what happens when you are close minded. But you're ok with that and want to continue with your head up your ass. And speaking of people being shitty to each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIM1ED0__BI
But you don't have to watch, it won't align with your views.
That guy is wearing a KU sweatshirt!! lol... I mean not LOL. but still...
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I am particularly enjoying the illegal immigrants protesting with "not my president" signs. They're right!
Where are you seeing this?
do you not watch the news? they're the ones wearing "I'm an illegal immigrant" t-shirts
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This article expresses my disappointment better than I can.
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/11/09/heres-why-we-grieve-today/
Thanks for posting this it felt genuine and heartfelt and helped me understand the fears some people are feeling right now. We can't dismiss others fears because no matter what you say you can't change that these feelings of fear are very real weather you think they are unfounded or not.
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I agree that it is melodramatic. I also think he made some good points. I appreciate his thought that many people are upset because of something that extends beyond politics. And that it is more about things like how we ought to treat each other. For something less melodramatic, see Stan Van Gundy's thoughts.
Sure. Trump was a brute and a bully throughout his campaign. It's troubling that that sort of behavior worked to get him elected.
That's said, I don't necessarily think his being elected as a result of that behavior is some American existential crisis. I imagine plenty of people (most?) voted for him in spite of his antics and rhetoric, not because of them.
You don't think it could be a shock to the system to some people that 50,000,000 in this country thought it was okay to rationalize voting for someone who behaves like he does? He is now the leader of the free world and he just a few months ago stood on a stage and mocked a guy with cerebral palsy. I think it is shocking to some because people, mostly privileged, think the number of people willing to swallow his behavior and allow him to be the most powerful person in the world would be a small fraction of 50,000,000. I think trump is full of crap so I think he will pretty much do what the Republican establishment wants him to do, but I completely understand some people being upset about this many people willing to be okay with Trump's behavior. I consider myself woke so this isn't that surprising to me.
I guess so, but you'd have to be pretty ignorant not to realize, until yesterday, that a large segment of the US population supports trump and DGAF about (or supports) trump's personal behavior. He pretty much dominated the GOP primary, after all.
Would everyone be as shocked if Trump narrowly lost those battleground states that he won?
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More people voted against trump in the primary than for him.
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More people voted against trump in the primary than for him.
Right. I genuinely thought that he only wont he primary because there were so many candidates to chose from. Not because this many people would chose to validate his views and behaviour.
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I feel like a lot of the people that are shocked/saddened/disturbed that 50% of the country voted for Trump are failing to realize what a terrible candidate hillary was. I mean, millions of people who voted for Obama twice either refused to vote for hillary or voted for Trump. When both presidential candidates are piles of garbage, you are going to have a pile of garbage in the white house.
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Trump didn't get enough votes to win most elections. Clinton just performed even worse than he did.
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Would everyone be as shocked if Trump narrowly lost those battleground states that he won?
I'd say that they wouldn't, but should.
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I am particularly enjoying the illegal immigrants protesting with "not my president" signs. They're right!
Where are you seeing this?
I thought neo cons would stop lying about everything in the world when they won the white house. They may need rehab to quit.
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Oh, man. I wonder how many championship sports teams will be boycotting their White House visit while Trump is in office.
https://twitter.com/cavs/status/796806945931980805
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More people voted against trump in the primary than for him.
:lol: Not sure what you're point is, but still :lol: whatever it is.
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Weird posts a page or two back. Closeted HRC supporters really lashing out.
Sad
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Weird posts a page or two back. Closeted HRC supporters really lashing out.
Sad
You're being a giant beta pussy again, is it that hard to quote a post or two?
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Weird posts a page or two back. Closeted HRC supporters really lashing out.
Sad
You're being a giant beta pussy again, is it that hard to quote a post or two?
Sometimes. But you weren't involved. So CTFO.
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Weird posts a page or two back. Closeted HRC supporters really lashing out.
Sad
You're being a giant beta pussy again, is it that hard to quote a post or two?
Sometimes. But you weren't involved. So CTFO.
I'm aware I wasn't involved, I just hate when you do this cowardly crap. It's a message board, stupid. Stop muttering at your desk in the basement like Milton.
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Weird posts a page or two back. Closeted HRC supporters really lashing out.
Sad
You're being a giant beta pussy again, is it that hard to quote a post or two?
Sometimes. But you weren't involved. So CTFO.
I'm aware I wasn't involved, I just hate when you do this cowardly crap. It's a message board, stupid.
Tapatalk malfunction. Got damn your infuckingsufferable sometimes.
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Weird posts a page or two back. Closeted HRC supporters really lashing out.
Sad
You're being a giant beta pussy again, is it that hard to quote a post or two?
Sometimes. But you weren't involved. So CTFO.
I'm aware I wasn't involved, I just hate when you do this cowardly crap. It's a message board, stupid.
Tapatalk malfunction.
:lol: what a puss, Milton is about to set the building on fire
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Weird posts a page or two back. Closeted HRC supporters really lashing out.
Sad
You're being a giant beta pussy again, is it that hard to quote a post or two?
Sometimes. But you weren't involved. So CTFO.
I'm aware I wasn't involved, I just hate when you do this cowardly crap. It's a message board, stupid.
Tapatalk malfunction.
:lol: what a puss, Milton is about to set the building on fire
lol
Whatevs
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More people voted against trump in the primary than for him.
:lol: Not sure what you're point is, but still :lol: whatever it is.
Dlew said Trump dominated the primary, that isn't true, at least imo. He won, but hardly dominated.
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Crapload of daxplaining today :lol:
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Lib with an extraordinary level of butthurt today.
So, sad
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More people voted against trump in the primary than for him.
:lol: Not sure what you're point is, but still :lol: whatever it is.
Dlew said Trump dominated the primary, that isn't true, at least imo. He won, but hardly dominated.
I took your point as implying that most republicans aren't actually sexist and racist, but I'd tend to agree with JTMHTD that they probably are.
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More people voted against trump in the primary than for him.
:lol: Not sure what you're point is, but still :lol: whatever it is.
Dlew said Trump dominated the primary, that isn't true, at least imo. He won, but hardly dominated.
It's not that easy to dominate a field of 16, or whatever it was, but he did win 36 states and second place in 9. That's pretty alpha.
Hillary had to cheat to beat Bernie.
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Dax and jd get really worked up if you don't blindly praise trump as the anointed god king, very interesting.
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Dax and jd get really worked up if you don't blindly praise trump as the anointed god king, very interesting.
My runaway anti-hillary train has pulled into the station. I'm done, but I still react to dumb comments. :driving: :cheers:
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You don't think it could be a shock to the system to some people that 50,000,000 in this country thought it was okay to rationalize voting for someone who behaves like he does? He is now the leader of the free world and he just a few months ago stood on a stage and mocked a guy with cerebral palsy. I think it is shocking to some because people, mostly privileged, think the number of people willing to swallow his behavior and allow him to be the most powerful person in the world would be a small fraction of 50,000,000. I think trump is full of crap so I think he will pretty much do what the Republican establishment wants him to do, but I completely understand some people being upset about this many people willing to be okay with Trump's behavior. I consider myself woke so this isn't that surprising to me.
Confirmed by Dave Chappell & Chris Rock.
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We're going to need this advice soon.
http://www.attn.com/stories/12768/former-congressional-staffer-explains-how-to-make-congressman-listen?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=direct-share&utm_campaign=shares
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Democrats take all 3 and and we all rub it in loser republicans face because they did it to themselves and then we stack the court with ultralibs and party into utopia
It's going to be very positive for the nation :love:
:lol:
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Democrats take all 3 and and we all rub it in loser republicans face because they did it to themselves and then we stack the court with ultralibs and party into utopia
It's going to be very positive for the nation :love:
:lol:
;)
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Weird series of posts from lib . . . as in more weird then usual.
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Mike Pence is not going to be happy about this. He'll probably take this to the new homophobic SCOTUS.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/seattle-conversion-therapy_us_57a0f440e4b08a8e8b5fcf77