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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: 420seriouscat69 on June 01, 2015, 02:39:55 PM
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http://www.sportingnews.com/sport/story/2015-06-01/caitlyn-jenner-2015-espy-awards-arthur-ashe-courage-award-espn-oscar-jenner-transgender?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
:surprised:
That was quick.
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good
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I saw the episode last night when he talks to his family about it. Very moving.
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good for him on the award for obvious reasons, but i have an issue with a person getting this award not far removed from killing another person.
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oscar jenner killed somebody?
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oscar jenner killed somebody?
Guilt by association.
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/600772614517198848
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as a person of a certain age, I have little to no awareness of jenner as a sports figure
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oscar jenner killed somebody?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F580%2F956%2Ff3e.jpeg&hash=487a12a062a25753b63c2c06212a4d61c75b54dd)
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well apparently it wasn't a big deal and kslim is just being a big moist pussy about it.
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well apparently it wasn't a big deal and kslim is just being a big moist pussy about it.
i mean there is still a wrongful death suit against him. not exactly a model citizen but alas he (she?) deserves it outside of that.
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I'm more in the who cares camp.
It would be a more compelling story if she didn't get a bunch of surgery to look like a passable old lady. If she had to navigate life as some horrifying butch she male and promoted transgendered equality, I'd take her way more serious. Right now, I'll bet all those long time transgendered people call her a poser, just taking up the cause because it's popular.
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She killed oscar Jenner, and oscar Jenner killed someone, so I think she was justified.
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good grief, slim
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I'm more in the who cares camp.
It would be a more compelling story if she didn't get a bunch of surgery to look like a passable old lady. If she had to navigate life as some horrifying butch she male and promoted transgendered equality, I'd take her way more serious. Right now, I'll bet all those long time transgendered people call her a poser, just taking up the cause because it's popular.
what a stupid bet
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good grief, slim
okay, good for her. i think i said that (also said she deserves it)
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sounds like jabeez isn't going to be satisfied until he gets a crack at that store bought vagina. look he'd take you a lot more serious if he could get up in them guts, thank you very much. until then, you're just a poser trying to be popular and that's that.
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I'm more in the who cares camp.
It would be a more compelling story if she didn't get a bunch of surgery to look like a passable old lady. If she had to navigate life as some horrifying butch she male and promoted transgendered equality, I'd take her way more serious. Right now, I'll bet all those long time transgendered people call her a poser, just taking up the cause because it's popular.
Your opinions and suppositions seem horribly inaccurate.
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transgenders are only legit if they stop at genital reconstruction, otherwise they're just phonies trying to get attention--->jabeez
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Apparently like 10 years ago, some reporter spotted him with Caitlyn's outfit in a bag and he had to pay him off for years to not write anything. Sad. :frown:
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Apparently like 10 years ago, some reporter spotted him with Caitlyn outfit and he had to pay him off for years to not write anything. Sad. :frown:
#Poser #CarpetBagger #CaitlynComeLately
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
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you know, jabeez's inability to control his eater when he pees is starting to take on a new light. maybe he wasn't meant to have one? angry that he's stuck with his and caitlyn got off dirk-free? pastries for thought.
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i imagine not wanting to have a penis and having a penis is pretty awful. i mean they're absurd.
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and bawls. incredibly inconvenient on top of it all.
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the only thing i have a problem with is the name. caitlyn? i mean, give me a break lady. ain't no caitlyns under the age of 50 running around and you have to be pushing 70. mary jenner? sure. dorothy jenner? absolutely. ruth jenner? you better believe it. caitlyn jenner? uh, no. try again. :nono:
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the only thing i have a problem with is the name. caitlyn? i mean, give me a break lady. ain't no caitlyns under the age of 50 running around and you have to be pushing 70. mary jenner? sure. dorothy jenner? absolutely. ruth jenner? you better believe it. caitlyn jenner? uh, no. try again. :nono:
Katherine so she could have stayed with the hard K name
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those are all very legit old lady names. maybe that's what got jabeez's fur up and he is just dumb and couldn't articulate it.
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Look at all these haters:
Joshy Lingo ?@JoshyLingo · 3m3 minutes ago
Yes guys, if you think oscar Jenner looks hot. That in fact makes you gay.
B-rad ?@bradkeener82 · 3m3 minutes ago
Who was in charge of taking oscar Jenner's man card?
beshoy ?@BeshoyAdly · 4m4 minutes ago
#CallMeCaitlyn #Bruce_Jenner. Man u r disgusting . Burn in hell. Totally gross
Jess ?@_jessmacole · 19m19 minutes ago
People really act like this oscar Jenner stuff is okay, when in reality it is sickening
Fitness Life ?@Fitnesslovee · 35m35 minutes ago
oscar Jenner gets praised for turning into a woman yet Tim Tebow still gets mocked and ridiculed for praising God. #Society
Haley Reynolds ?@Haley_Brookeee · 47m47 minutes ago
To hear that oscar Jenner will be getting an award for courage is disgusting. Men and women who fight for our freedom deserve that more.
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Should have gone with Kat - short for Katherine. That way he keeps with the K thing in the family.
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hey guys, i just changed my name to xander daris. oh no wait i didn't because i'm not 9 years old. :lol:
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hey guys, i just changed my name to xander daris. oh no wait i didn't because i'm not 9 years old. :lol:
whatever you say jayxsin
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
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Should have gone with Kat - short for Katherine. That way he keeps with the K thing in the family.
this is a great idea
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
Exactly. It's like cheating. I'm glad we can agree on this, mich.
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
How pissed do you think they got when they read that she isn't even gay? I bet they were outraged.
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if it weren't for jabeez i'd never have known how to spot a legit transgender person from a poser one.
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
How pissed do you think they got when they read that she isn't even gay? I bet they were outraged.
Yeah I know. Still in to chicks, what's that about?
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
Exactly. It's like cheating. I'm glad we can agree on this, mich.
just so i'm clear, if you don't change your diirk to a taco then you can't change anything and if you do go diirk-to-taco then that's all you can change? i'd like to make certain i'm not shaming the wrong folks.
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
Exactly. It's like cheating. I'm glad we can agree on this, mich.
just so i'm clear, if you don't change your diirk to a taco then you can't change anything and if you do go diirk-to-taco then that's all you can change? i'd like to make certain i'm not shaming the wrong folks.
Well it's pretty obvious, If you diddle you're a diddler, if you daddle, you're a daddler. You can diddle daddle and you're a do-daddler. everybody can doodle. Just don't be a diddle-daddle-doodler.
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
How pissed do you think they got when they read that she isn't even gay? I bet they were outraged.
Yeah I know. Still in to chicks, what's that about?
If SHE is into chicks then she is gay...
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:Wha:
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One thing we can all agree on is this attention whore isn't serious about becoming a woman.
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
How pissed do you think they got when they read that she isn't even gay? I bet they were outraged.
Yeah I know. Still in to chicks, what's that about?
If SHE is into chicks then she is gay...
I don't think so, since she still has a penis. It's all semantics at this point, though. She claimed she's not gay in an interview, so I'm inclined to go with what she says.
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
How pissed do you think they got when they read that she isn't even gay? I bet they were outraged.
Yeah I know. Still in to chicks, what's that about?
If SHE is into chicks then she is gay...
Wait, so if you have male genitals, self identify as a female, but participate in heterosexual intercourse female, how do you fill out a census form? I'm so confused
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jabeez is melting down pretty hard right now.
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http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/01/caitlyn-jenner-kardashian-k-woman-photo-vanity-fair-identity/
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you only really mean it if you make your dirk a taco, but still leave everything else mannish---->jabeez
Hey dumbass, she didn't get genital reconstruction.
obviously because she's not serious about it and the real trans folks (the really gross butch ones) must be pissed!!!
How pissed do you think they got when they read that she isn't even gay? I bet they were outraged.
Yeah I know. Still in to chicks, what's that about?
If SHE is into chicks then she is gay...
Wait, so if you have male genitals, self identify as a female, but participate in heterosexual intercourse female, how do you fill out a census form? I'm so confused
and here I thought you were an expert on the trans community
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https://twitter.com/realtimwilliams/status/605472690153988096
Studdette!
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According to this, she is a lesbian...
http://gayteens.about.com/od/transgenderteenissues/f/trans_so.htm
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Wait, so if you have male genitals, self identify as a female, but participate in heterosexual intercourse female, how do you fill out a census form? I'm so confused
You fill it out however you damned well please. There's no wrong way to fill out a census form.
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According to this, she is a lesbian...
http://gayteens.about.com/od/transgenderteenissues/f/trans_so.htm
She's challenging everyone's preconceived notions.
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When confronted with the idiocy of his post, Jabeez had a choice to make. On the one hand, he could backpedal and rephrase his point with some concessions. Or, he could double down on diddle daddle. What do you think he should do? What would you do? Pasties for thought.
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When confronted with the idiocy of his post, Jabeez had a choice to make. On the one hand, he could backpedal and rephrase his point with some concessions. Or, he could double down on diddle daddle. What do you think he should do? What would you do? Pasties for thought.
Don't have a KU site to ruin? If you can't see that I was not posting seriously from the first post, that's your fault.
But for real, self gender identifying as a woman, being attracted to women, but self identifying as a straight person is really confusing.
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this is something to behold. now he didn't mean it and it's everybody else's fault for not getting that. oh, jabeez.
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Option #3 :surprised:
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we just got jabeemz'd
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we just got jabeemz'd
jabeegazm'd
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jabeezap'd
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This is exactly like when the fifa official cited an onion article
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I mean it's so obvious Jabeez was joking
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So did they ever find out if Jenner was on the phone when that person died as a result of their accident? Or just a didnt have time to react thing?
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hey guys, if i ever post anything that everybody finds universally loathsome and stupid, i was jk. tia. :emawkid:
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shut the eff up, ww. stop ruining jabeez's moment.
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the only thing i have a problem with is the name. caitlyn? i mean, give me a break lady. ain't no caitlyns under the age of 50 running around and you have to be pushing 70. mary jenner? sure. dorothy jenner? absolutely. ruth jenner? you better believe it. caitlyn jenner? uh, no. try again. :nono:
Maybe she doesn't identify with her birth age you bad person
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don't see the courage, myself. more self-indulgent than anything else. of course being an athlete is also extremely self-indulgent.
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don't see the courage, myself. more self-indulgent than anything else. of course being an athlete is also extremely self-indulgent.
absolutely, this sort of thing happens all the time and is a stress-free process. Especially from the athletic world.
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don't see the courage, myself. more self-indulgent than anything else. of course being an athlete is also extremely self-indulgent.
:peek:
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don't see the courage, myself. more self-indulgent than anything else. of course being an athlete is also extremely self-indulgent.
absolutely, this sort of thing happens all the time and is a stress-free process. Especially from the athletic world.
as an earlier poster mentioned, jenner is far removed from any sphere of athletics.
all humans (all vertebrates) overcome stress on a daily basis in order to pursue their chosen activities. bestowing an award signifies that someone has done something so far greater than the ordinary struggles common to us all as to be exemplary and uplifting. some random strangers criticize him/her on social media. bfd, wackycat overcomes the same thing on this board on a daily basis. what other difficulties has jenner encountered, endured and overcome?
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He killed somebody recently.
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this sys take is lukewarm. The ESPYs are an incredibly self-important celebrity self-suckfest which make it the perfect venue for recognizing the outstanding achievements in the area of courage for a reality tv star.
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Anyone that's willing to be celebrated doesn't deserve it and can get mumped imo.
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Anyone that's willing to be celebrated doesn't deserve it and can get mumped imo.
Are you sure you aren't a Kansan? If you are between the ages of 16-18 Bill Synder has a greyshirt to offer you.
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don't see the courage, myself. more self-indulgent than anything else. of course being an athlete is also extremely self-indulgent.
absolutely, this sort of thing happens all the time and is a stress-free process. Especially from the athletic world.
as an earlier poster mentioned, jenner is far removed from any sphere of athletics.
all humans (all vertebrates) overcome stress on a daily basis in order to pursue their chosen activities. bestowing an award signifies that someone has done something so far greater than the ordinary struggles common to us all as to be exemplary and uplifting. some random strangers criticize him/her on social media. bfd, wackycat overcomes the same thing on this board on a daily basis. what other difficulties has jenner encountered, endured and overcome?
fair point on him being removed from athletics, but I don't think the hardest part about being trans is mean people on social media. I've seen trans folks before and after and it isn't the kind of stress "all humans" have to deal with.
And using your criteria, you could make an argument that pretty much no one but Nelson Mandela actually deserved the award:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ashe_Courage_Award
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Anyone that's willing to be celebrated doesn't deserve it and can get mumped imo.
I'm sure Caitlyn would say she is not accepting the award for personal recognition but rather to use the ceremony as a platform to inspire others to have the courage to accept who they are. 2015 is shaping up to be the Year of the Queer.
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That's how I accept all my awards. I say this isn't about me it's about all the losers that you all don't care enough about to pay any attention to. Then I say you're welcome.
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using your criteria, you could make an argument that pretty much no one but Nelson Mandela actually deserved the award:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ashe_Courage_Award
most of those people i've never heard of, or if i've heard the name, i don't really know what they did. i'm fine with smith and carlos in addition to mandela.
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Just wondering..what is Caitlyn's middle name?
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Just wondering..what is Caitlyn's middle name?
nevaeh
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I bet sitting next to sys at your HS award banquet where 80% of the students get an award for some stupid thing would be amaze
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as a person of a certain age, I have little to no awareness of jenner as a sports figure
As an "old dude" who happened to be the state's best pole vaulter and top 5 in the nation in my age group when the "Wheaties box series" cam out, I insisted that my mom buy me this box of cereal...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.firstwefeast.com%2Fassets%2F2013%2F01%2FBruce_Jenner_Wheaties_pole_vault-339x500.jpg&hash=dc17113ec3c48494d559408634ed38f794d1d0aa)
Suffice it to say that they weren't nearly as tasty as frosted lucky charms... :Yuck:
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as a person of a certain age, I have little to no awareness of jenner as a sports figure
As an "old dude" who happened to be the state's best pole vaulter and top 5 in the nation in my age group when the "Wheaties box series" cam out, I insisted that my mom buy me this box of cereal...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.firstwefeast.com%2Fassets%2F2013%2F01%2FBruce_Jenner_Wheaties_pole_vault-339x500.jpg&hash=dc17113ec3c48494d559408634ed38f794d1d0aa)
Suffice it to say that they weren't nearly as tasty as frosted lucky charms... :Yuck:
i did the research for everybody: this wheaties box was from 1977
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I think that's before dax even
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sys wants you to pay the iron price for your bobble.
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Kinda sick of seeing the picture. While we're at it, I don't want to see cis gendered 65 year olds with fake tits in bustiers either. Call me an age bigot, if you must.
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sys wants you to pay the iron price for your bobble.
i don't know what this means. but i do not think it is accurate.
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the only thing i have a problem with is the name. caitlyn? i mean, give me a break lady. ain't no caitlyns under the age of 50 running around and you have to be pushing 70. mary jenner? sure. dorothy jenner? absolutely. ruth jenner? you better believe it. caitlyn jenner? uh, no. try again. :nono:
Elizabeth Jenner is classy and dignified.
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sys wants you to pay the iron price for your bobble.
i don't know what this means. but i do not think it is accurate.
i don't feel like explaining the reference. it is fairly accurate.
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sys wants you to pay the iron price for your bobble.
i don't know what this means. but i do not think it is accurate.
i don't feel like explaining the reference. it is fairly accurate.
is bobble a katdaddyesque pun? do you mean bauble? are you suggesting that i think a person should only receive an award if they surgically alter their sex? or that i think they should have to kill someone? neither is remotely accurate.
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It's pretty wild that Jenner:
1) achieved international fame among an older generation for his athletic prowess
2) completely unrelated to #1, became famous to a new generation as a bit player in reality tv shows rooted in amateur porn
3) is about to become most famous yet as the face of transgender people, in part to the prior fame in #1 & 2
She's probably gonna be the 1st person to walk on Mars or something in 10 years.
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what a life
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and she's Brody Jenner's dad!
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and she's Brody Jenner's dad!
I know. I really miss Brody. I wanna hear his thoughts. And Laurens too!
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remember when she took scott disick out driving, like, dune buggies? I mean, that alone is more than any of you will accomplish in your stupid lives.
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remember when she took scott disick out driving, like, dune buggies? I mean, that alone is more than any of you will accomplish in your stupid lives.
Are we supposed to refer to her as 'she' when speaking about the past when she was still a he during that time?
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scott is such a freaking stud.
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scott is such a freaking stud.
Yup!
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@EllToPay
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One of my facebook friends tagged the promotion for this award on facebook and said this:
ESPY's are a joke.
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It's pretty wild that Jenner:
1) achieved international fame among an older generation for his athletic prowess
2) completely unrelated to #1, became famous to a new generation as a bit player in reality tv shows rooted in amateur porn
3) is about to become most famous yet as the face of transgender people, in part to the prior fame in #1 & 2
She's probably gonna be the 1st person to walk on Mars or something in 10 years.
It realy is an amazing career arc. Not to mention the tangential connection to all the OJ drama.
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@Jabeez. I heard and learned today that with this type of procedure, they won't let them cut the trunk until they've thoroughly lived with the new transformation for over a year. They have to have constant dr and psych visits for this procedure to be cleared. So there, butthead! Caitlyn will be set free in a year!
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When will the first Transableism victim get an ESPY?
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/02/the-next-wave-of-body-diversity-disabled-by-choice/
The next wave of “body diversity”: Disabled by choice
POSTED AT 12:01 PM ON JUNE 2, 2015 BY ED MORRISSEY
If a person can claim gender based on their mental and emotional orientation, what other forms of “body diversity” exist? The rapid acceptance and even celebration of Caitlyn Jenner’s debut onto the social scene (and social media) may soon bring another form of body diversity into the light, or so the Canada National Post argues today. “We need to move away from pathologizing people,” says Clive Baldwin, including those who chop off their limbs or fake paralysis in order to live as disabled people. “For many, amputation is the only way forward,” the St. Thomas University, Frederickton professor tells Sarah Boesveld, and “it isn’t beyond the pale.”
Really?
"When he cut off his right arm with a 'very sharp power tool,' a man who now calls himself One Hand Jason let everyone believe it was an accident.
But he had for months tried different means of cutting and crushing the limb that never quite felt like his own, training himself on first aid so he wouldn’t bleed to death, even practicing on animal parts sourced from a butcher. …
People like Jason have been classified as 'transabled' — feeling like imposters in their bodies, their arms and legs in full working order.
'We define transability as the desire or the need for a person identified as able-bodied by other people to transform his or her body to obtain a physical impairment,' says Alexandre Baril, a Quebec born academic who will present on 'transability' at this week’s Congress of the Social Sciences and Humanities at the University of Ottawa.
'The person could want to become deaf, blind, amputee, paraplegic. It’s a really, really strong desire.'"
When I first read this, I had to double-check the references and do a little research to make sure this wasn’t something the Daily Currant had launched in the wake of Jenner’s re-emergence. Dr. Clive Baldwin appears to check out as advertised, as the Canada Research Chair in Narrative Studies at St Thomas University, Fredericton. “Narrative studies” sounds a little ambiguous as a discipline, but his website states that he lectured in the UK on mental health in social work and on dementia studies. A YouTube search for more on the topic raised videos spanning at least four years, including an unfortunate Jerry Springer segment, which Springer himself said would be the strangest segment he’d ever done. That’s a tall order, one I’d really prefer not to research, but it’s probably correct. Feel free to click the link, but I’ll pass on embedding it here.
So this is not a hoax, or at least the story isn’t. The impulse to mutilate one’s body in various ways has been known and documented for a long time, but only recently have we begun to accept it as an expression of self rather than a pathology, as Dr. Baldwin dismissively notes. The measure of the latter, though, has never been the sincerity of those impulses but their destructive nature and disconnection from reality.
This brings us to Caitlyn Jenner, of course, and other transgender people who have operations to change their gender to match their mental and emotional identity. There doesn’t seem to be much of a moral or medical difference between surgically removing one’s sexual genitalia to address gender identity issues and removing a leg, arm, or eyeballs to address “transability” issues. One can argue that there is a difference between do-it-yourself “modifications” to chop off one’s arm and a surgeon to remove male genitalia and construct artificial genitalia in its place, and there are differences. The latter has been made much safer, of course, and much more socially acceptable, but that’s only a matter of being ahead on the moral-relativity curve. Surgeons can do amputations, rob eyes of sight, and the like, just as safely as they now perform gender-reassignment surgeries.
That is, in fact, what Baldwin and others propose — to supply medical treatment not to the mental issues that drive these impulses, but to conduct drastic body modifications to cater to those impulses. It won’t be long before we start hearing arguments about the dangers of allowing people to do these amputations and the like on their own as a way to press for allowing and even demanding such surgeries, just the way some now expect taxpayers to pay for gender-reassignment surgeries for prisoners and people on public medical coverage.
Color me much less sanguine than Amanda or AP on this point. We’re celebrating the end of natural and objective truth, and turning dysfunction into virtue on the basis of celebrity. Not only that, but many people suffer from disability without much choice in the matter — my wife, for one, who lost her sight at 24 from diabetic retinopathy. This turns their challenges into sport or status symbols in a very odd manner, and mainstreaming it the way Baldwin suggests legitimizes the fetishization of their pains and struggles.
I don’t wish Caitlyn Jenner any ill will, and I have no problem addressing people by the names or pronouns they wish. That, after all, is their business. However, don’t expect me to wave flags as the parade of self-mutilation keeps processing toward eventual oblivion, regardless of whether that makes me out of step and hopelessly old-fashioned. Western society has become unmoored from objective truth in favor of anything goes, and I don’t think the end game looks terribly promising — especially with the parallel tyranny of the Tolerance Police punishing any dissent along the way.
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good post, ptolemy.
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LOL wow
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hmm
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One of my facebook friends tagged the promotion for this award on facebook and said this:
ESPY's are a joke.
:frown:
well they are(not for this tho)
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I like the espys. I dislike women's basketball, but I was a mess after watching the Pat Summitt- Ashe Courage award presentation. :cry:
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I mean it's cool and all I guess, just seems like more grandstanding than anything. The life time and Arthur Ashe awards are legit. But I hate what ESPN has become so I'm bias I guess
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so I'm bias I guess
:dubious:
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so I'm bias I guess
:dubious:
shut up
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@Jabeez. I heard and learned today that with this type of procedure, they won't let them cut the trunk until they've thoroughly lived with the new transformation for over a year. They have to have constant dr and psych visits for this procedure to be cleared. So there, butthead! Caitlyn will be set free in a year!
Is this in regards to this situation? I was under the impression she still sees herself sexually, as a straight man attracted to women, but who gender identifies as a woman.
I mean i just skimmed some business insider articles, so i could be wrong. But i did read previous to meeting and marrying kris kardashian, then oscar, had been on horomones for 5 months, and stopped them after meeting her.
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@Jabeez. I heard and learned today that with this type of procedure, they won't let them cut the trunk until they've thoroughly lived with the new transformation for over a year. They have to have constant dr and psych visits for this procedure to be cleared. So there, butthead! Caitlyn will be set free in a year!
Is this in regards to this situation? I was under the impression she still sees herself sexually, as a straight man attracted to women, but who gender identifies as a woman.
I mean i just skimmed some business insider articles, so i could be wrong. But i did read previous to meeting and marrying kris kardashian, then oscar, had been on horomones for 5 months, and stopped them after meeting her.
The latest I heard, he wants it snipped. So maybe he still wants to go for girls, but doesn't feel like he needs that utensil.
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@Jabeez. I heard and learned today that with this type of procedure, they won't let them cut the trunk until they've thoroughly lived with the new transformation for over a year. They have to have constant dr and psych visits for this procedure to be cleared. So there, butthead! Caitlyn will be set free in a year!
Is this in regards to this situation? I was under the impression she still sees herself sexually, as a straight man attracted to women, but who gender identifies as a woman.
I mean i just skimmed some business insider articles, so i could be wrong. But i did read previous to meeting and marrying kris kardashian, then oscar, had been on horomones for 5 months, and stopped them after meeting her.
The latest I heard, he wants it snipped. So maybe he still wants to go for girls, but doesn't feel like he needs that utensil.
The women that may want to see him may wish him to have that utensil.
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some super brown posts about this topic, good lord
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I am starving. I very badly want to eat the candy bar in my pocket. When I go to pull it out of my pocket, I accidentally drop it on the floor. There is a dog nearby. The dog sees the candy bar and begins to approach it, wanting to eat it. I know, and everyone in the vicinity can see, that this is the type of chocolate that could be deadly to the dog. I don't want the dog to die, of course, but I also really want to be able to eat the candy bar because I am so hungry. So, I quickly pick it up before the dog has a chance to get it. Many witnesses come over and praise my heroic action which may have saved the dog's life.
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some super brown posts about this topic, good lord
I set this thread up as a trap and you know it!
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knowing chum1, that was no accident.
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I like the espys. I dislike women's basketball, but I was a mess after watching the Pat Summitt- Ashe Courage award presentation. :cry:
Love Pat Summitt!!
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No joke! Come on people, oscar jenner, or should I call it "caitlyn", isn't news, THIS IS NEWS and deserves more attention than caitlyn.
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http://themattwalshblog.com/2015/06/02/calling-oscar-jenner-a-woman-is-an-insult-to-women/ (http://themattwalshblog.com/2015/06/02/calling-oscar-jenner-a-woman-is-an-insult-to-women/)
Has this been discussed?
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What is wrong America......
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What is wrong America......
Turns out that's fake.
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Link?
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Link?
People are so rough ridin' stupid.
http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/02/caitlyn-jenner-arthur-ashe-espys/
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Wow!
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That thing Akon is doing sounds pretty great.
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http://themattwalshblog.com/2015/06/02/calling-oscar-jenner-a-woman-is-an-insult-to-women/ (http://themattwalshblog.com/2015/06/02/calling-oscar-jenner-a-woman-is-an-insult-to-women/)
Has this been discussed?
It's pretty wild that Matt Walsh is:
1) the name of the guy who wrote that blog
2) best known to me as the name of a parody news guy on comedy central
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.hitfix.com%2Fphotos%2F5504882%2FMatt-Walsh.jpg&hash=4b84758a1806f29ca52c2492c3b32a851cc89aa6)
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http://themattwalshblog.com/2015/06/02/calling-oscar-jenner-a-woman-is-an-insult-to-women/ (http://themattwalshblog.com/2015/06/02/calling-oscar-jenner-a-woman-is-an-insult-to-women/)
Has this been discussed?
It's pretty wild that Matt Walsh is:
1) the name of the guy who wrote that blog
2) best known to me as the name of a parody news guy on comedy central
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.hitfix.com%2Fphotos%2F5504882%2FMatt-Walsh.jpg&hash=4b84758a1806f29ca52c2492c3b32a851cc89aa6)
Are we sure that's not Coach Beaty?!?
:sdeek:
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http://mic.com/articles/120033/jon-stewart-made-a-brilliant-point-about-caitlyn-jenner-that-nobody-s-talking-about
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This thread is TL-DNR. Just a quick Q for you guys. Do you always feel compelled to eagerly digest whatever semi-palatable 'controversial' story of the day the tabloidish major news outlets foist upon you...or just this once? I personally give zero fucks about the gender identity of some guy who was sort of famous for running laps around tracks about 30 years ago and am genuinely shocked and slightly terrified that there's a 6-page thread about this here.
Best,
TheProdigiousTalent
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Yeah, pretty much every one.
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I've got a conspiracy theory for you. Check it! Tracy Chapman: Carl Lewis with a Totino's pizza roll addiction. Prove me wrong.
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Carl Lewis - fast
Tracy Chapman - fast car
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Carl Lewis - fast
Tracy Chapman - fast car
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This thread is TL-DNR. Just a quick Q for you guys. Do you always feel compelled to eagerly digest whatever semi-palatable 'controversial' story of the day the tabloidish major news outlets foist upon you...or just this once? I personally give zero fucks about the gender identity of some guy who was sort of famous for running laps around tracks about 30 years ago and am genuinely shocked and slightly terrified that there's a 6-page thread about this here.
Best,
TheProdigiousTalent
yet here you are, caring
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The distinction between caring about the story and being fascinated by the scale of the reaction to the story seems lost on you.
Edit: sorry for being a jerk, guys. I am not the thought police. Please continue your free and open exchange of ideas.
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Carl Lewis - fast
Tracy Chapman - fast car
lol
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I always thought Carl looked liked Eddie Murphy.
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The distinction between caring about the story and being fascinated by the scale of the reaction to the story seems lost on you.
Edit: sorry for being a jerk, guys. I am not the thought police. Please continue your free and open exchange of ideas.
its really incredibly easy and low effort to care about slash discuss something on a message board. maybe it's hard for you tho.
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The distinction between caring about the story and being fascinated by the scale of the reaction to the story seems lost on you.
Edit: sorry for being a jerk, guys. I am not the thought police. Please continue your free and open exchange of ideas.
its really incredibly easy and low effort to care about slash discuss something on a message board. maybe it's hard for you tho.
the stuff he spends his invaluable free time thinking about and discussing is deeply meaningful and incredibly important (to him) always. otherwise he gives zero fucks and you everybody else just needs to deal with that. maybe spend some time discussing it like pointless idiots if you like.
if it doesn't matter to tpt then the world is rough ridin' wasting its time bothering with it.
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I haven't followed this story much, but just when I thought I had put all the bigots on Facebook feed to "unfollow," I get this event to pull a few more out of the woodwork.
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After doing some reading it does appear that gender reassignment is often a psychological issue, and not a "blank caught in a blank's body", and the actual act of reassignment is believed to increase the risk of suicide among other things (obviously depending on where you look and what you read). In all honesty I hope he/she spent a lot of time with a psychiatrist before making this decision, and that it doesn't lead to suicide.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/fashion/pronoun-confusion-sexual-fluidity.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1
When using 'they' as a singular pronoun for an agender person, do you use singular verbs?
My friend, Ian, just arrived. They is in the other room.
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What's wrong with they are?
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What's wrong with they are?
'are' is a plural verb, referring to more than one person. But if you are referring to a single person, shouldn't you use a singular verb?
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Grammar can s a d, are sounds better
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The royal we conjugates verbs in matching tense.
e.g - We are not amused.
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The royal we conjugates verbs in matching tense.
e.g - We are not amused.
The royal we originated as meaning "God and I" so that is a plural pronoun referring to more than one person (or deity).
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Going back to oscar.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/fashion/pronoun-confusion-sexual-fluidity.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1
When using 'they' as a singular pronoun for an agender person, do you use singular verbs?
My friend, Ian, just arrived. They is in the other room.
Calling a TS person "they" is every bit as insulting as "it".
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Some great tweets out there.
https://twitter.com/MisterMetokur/status/730824285334310913
https://twitter.com/robvfour/status/730826101891694593
https://twitter.com/iTootMyTiMMy/status/730818181841854465
https://twitter.com/Real_Mr_Popular/status/730817636033036289
@mrsgooch
https://twitter.com/bolastname/status/730816956278964224
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/fashion/pronoun-confusion-sexual-fluidity.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1
When using 'they' as a singular pronoun for an agender person, do you use singular verbs?
My friend, Ian, just arrived. They is in the other room.
Calling a TS person "they" is every bit as insulting as "it".
Not if they specifically asked people to use "they" and on their Facebook pronoun preference they chose "they" as their preferred pronoun.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/fashion/pronoun-confusion-sexual-fluidity.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1
When using 'they' as a singular pronoun for an agender person, do you use singular verbs?
My friend, Ian, just arrived. They is in the other room.
Calling a TS person "they" is every bit as insulting as "it".
Not if they specifically asked people to use "they" and on their Facebook pronoun preference they chose "they" as their preferred pronoun.
Well, those people just don't know better.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/fashion/pronoun-confusion-sexual-fluidity.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1
When using 'they' as a singular pronoun for an agender person, do you use singular verbs?
My friend, Ian, just arrived. They is in the other room.
Calling a TS person "they" is every bit as insulting as "it".
Not if they specifically asked people to use "they" and on their Facebook pronoun preference they chose "they" as their preferred pronoun.
Well, those people just don't know better.
It is their preference for how they would like to be referred.
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Guys, shut up. Focus. She wants to go back to he.
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Guys, shut up. Focus. She wants to go back to he.
Yeah, that's what I just heard on the radio when I went to pick up my hoverboard.
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Guys, shut up. Focus. She wants to go back to he.
Yeah, that's what I just heard on the radio when I went to pick up my hoverboard.
lol, hoverboards are such a wichita thing...you guys still doing flash mobs and wearing crocs down there in wichitucky?
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Guys, shut up. Focus. She wants to go back to he.
Yeah, that's what I just heard on the radio when I went to pick up my hoverboard.
lol, hoverboards are such a wichita thing...you guys still doing flash mobs and wearing crocs down there in wichitucky?
uh....my first Hoverboard experience was in Seattle.
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Guys, shut up. Focus. She wants to go back to he.
Yeah, that's what I just heard on the radio when I went to pick up my hoverboard.
lol, hoverboards are such a wichita thing...you guys still doing flash mobs and wearing crocs down there in wichitucky?
uh....my first Hoverboard experience was in Seattle.
how long ago was this? was it on a former wichituckians?
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South Park is going to have a lot of fun with this :excited:
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https://twitter.com/bolastname/status/730816956278964224
i chuckled :frown:
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Yeah, pretty good.
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I wonder if this is viewed as a step back for TG? It does seem to suggest a mental health aspect to at least oscar's case.
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I wonder if this is viewed as a step back for TG? It does seem to suggest a mental health aspect to at least oscar's case.
do you really wonder if this one example of a person being confused about their perceived sexuality is going to be viewed as a step back for transgender people?
because if you do, what the eff is wrong with you?
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I wonder if this is viewed as a step back for TG? It does seem to suggest a mental health aspect to at least oscar's case.
do you really wonder if this one example of a person being confused about their perceived sexuality is going to be viewed as a step back for transgender people?
because if you do, what the eff is wrong with you?
Do you really think that one person could be used as a symbol to represent the struggles and courage of all transgendered people?
Because that's a real thing that happened, in real life.
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let me help you out- caitlyn jenner hasn't said a word about transitioning back to a man. but even if she had, the idea that her gender identity confusion would be a step backwards for the transgender community to anyone but the likes of the north carolina legislature is really dumb. most intelligent folk understood the concept of transgenderism prior to caitlyn and will continue to after her.
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it is almost as if trannies have mental problems
probably why she's going for trump. right guys? :lol: