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Title: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 18, 2014, 10:26:51 PM
I don't drink very often, probably once every two weeks. But recently (past couple years) I don't seem to have the ability to stop drinking once I start. I pretty much drink till I black out if there's not someone else trying to actively curb my intake. So, alcoholic or problem drinker?
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2014, 10:27:52 PM
normal
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Post by: scottwildcat on May 18, 2014, 10:28:58 PM
normal
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Post by: kim carnes on May 18, 2014, 10:30:52 PM
Def an alco
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 18, 2014, 10:33:19 PM
Do you do tons of stupid crap or are you a fun drunk?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: jtksu on May 18, 2014, 10:34:11 PM
Def an alco

Hate to do it but I agree with this dumbass.   Should probably call Dr Drew.  Or Dr Oz.   Or whoever.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: kim carnes on May 18, 2014, 10:35:32 PM
Def an alco

Hate to do it but I agree with this dumbass.   Should probably call Dr Drew.  Or Dr Oz.   Or whoever.

Shut the eff up
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 18, 2014, 10:36:37 PM
Do you do tons of stupid crap or are you a fun drunk?

Pretty fun till I black out, and then I'm not functioning on a high enough level to do anything incredibly stupid, just kind of an annoying idiot at that point.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: puniraptor on May 18, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
Are you likeable when drunk? Or horrible?
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Post by: puniraptor on May 18, 2014, 10:38:16 PM
Negative consequences?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 18, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
Are you likeable when drunk? Or horrible?
Negative consequences?

Pretty likable till I black out, but I'm not an bad person once I black out, just a complete idiot. There haven't been any real negative consequences yet.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Bloodfart on May 18, 2014, 10:43:16 PM
Maybe quit chugging grain alcohol?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2014, 10:45:30 PM
what's the point of drinking unless you can get drunk  :dunno:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: kim carnes on May 18, 2014, 10:52:49 PM
Are you likeable when drunk? Or horrible?

What do u think?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: AST on May 18, 2014, 10:52:53 PM
real talk here

probably should stop drinking until you are at a point in your life where you know when to and can make yourself stop long before you blackout



Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 18, 2014, 10:56:47 PM
I know the struggle, deuce.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: bones129 on May 18, 2014, 11:24:34 PM
Several people have told me I've blacked out from drinking.

Denied. If I had blacked out, I'd remember it.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Trim on May 18, 2014, 11:26:20 PM
If you're talking about social situations where you should just be having a few drinks, but instead you're finding yourself setting roosters records and feeling shame and pity when you wake up and encounter people the next day, that's bad.

If you're talking about designated times and places to get pak'd, but you're going to TEN!!! instead of ten, don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: sys on May 18, 2014, 11:33:52 PM
I don't drink very often, probably once every two weeks. But recently (past couple years) I don't seem to have the ability to stop drinking once I start. I pretty much drink till I black out if there's not someone else trying to actively curb my intake. So, alcoholic or problem drinker?

i'm the exact opposite.  i drink almost every day, but pretty much never get drunk.  basically only when there is free alcohol available for some reason.

i'm pretty sure i'm an alcoholic, btw.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: hemmy on May 18, 2014, 11:39:31 PM
You guys are so weird. Its incredibly easy to stop drinking.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: bones129 on May 18, 2014, 11:49:05 PM
As an aside, my Scotch tastes pretty good tonight.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 18, 2014, 11:58:57 PM
I don't drink very often, probably once every two weeks. But recently (past couple years) I don't seem to have the ability to stop drinking once I start. I pretty much drink till I black out if there's not someone else trying to actively curb my intake. So, alcoholic or problem drinker?

Just a guess here, but do you drink really fast? I often find that I finish my drinks quicker than friends, and so I have to space them out differently.  I've recently started chewing a piece of gum between each drink, and I've found that it helps me keep a more reasonable pace.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: bones129 on May 19, 2014, 12:07:21 AM
I don't drink very often, probably once every two weeks. But recently (past couple years) I don't seem to have the ability to stop drinking once I start. I pretty much drink till I black out if there's not someone else trying to actively curb my intake. So, alcoholic or problem drinker?

Just a guess here, but do you drink really fast? I often find that I finish my drinks quicker than friends, and so I have to space them out differently.  I've recently started chewing a piece of gum between each drink, and I've found that it helps me keep a more reasonable pace.

This approach may be marketable.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 19, 2014, 12:19:32 AM
Do you do tons of stupid crap or are you a fun drunk?

Pretty fun till I black out, and then I'm not functioning on a high enough level to do anything incredibly stupid, just kind of an annoying idiot at that point.

Are your friends blacking out with you or are you usually way drunker than everyone else?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: jtksu on May 19, 2014, 12:28:21 AM
Def an alco

Hate to do it but I agree with this dumbass.   Should probably call Dr Drew.  Or Dr Oz.   Or whoever.

Shut the eff up

 :Crybaby:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: bones129 on May 19, 2014, 12:29:34 AM
I've read this entire thread. I need a drink.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 01:48:08 AM
Do you do tons of stupid crap or are you a fun drunk?

Pretty fun till I black out, and then I'm not functioning on a high enough level to do anything incredibly stupid, just kind of an annoying idiot at that point.

Are your friends blacking out with you or are you usually way drunker than everyone else?
I don't drink very often, probably once every two weeks. But recently (past couple years) I don't seem to have the ability to stop drinking once I start. I pretty much drink till I black out if there's not someone else trying to actively curb my intake. So, alcoholic or problem drinker?

Just a guess here, but do you drink really fast? I often find that I finish my drinks quicker than friends, and so I have to space them out differently.  I've recently started chewing a piece of gum between each drink, and I've found that it helps me keep a more reasonable pace.

Pretty much everything I do, I tend to do compulsively. So, yes, I tend to drink quickly. Most of my friends end up getting blackout at some point, but I usually reach that point before the rest of them.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: waks on May 19, 2014, 02:29:24 AM
An even better question... at one point is the line crossed between professional drinker and alcoholic?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 03:33:49 AM
Are you a student? How old are you? Married? Kids? 


Gonna win 'em all! (But maybe not now)
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Cire on May 19, 2014, 06:06:13 AM
Don't buy a 30 pack buy 6 or 12.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: 8manpick on May 19, 2014, 07:39:53 AM
Pfft. You are neither. The only dumb thing I remember you doing as a result was arguing that some terrible 80's song as the best pop song of all time.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: kslim on May 19, 2014, 07:41:52 AM
I'm drinking a mimosa in mci and will be here until 330 central, tell me about your problems
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: CNS on May 19, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
I drink super fast.  It doesn't matter if its coffee, water, or booze.  If I am holding it, I am drinking quickly.  Its not a mindful thing.  Just happens. Put a water in btwn each booze.  Helps me out.  That said,  I have passed out a couple times but never blacked out.  #TeamRememberEverything
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 07:47:04 AM
I used to pretend I didn't remember things. It was easier that way.
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Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2014, 08:05:20 AM
being an alcoholic doesn't seem like it's any fun at all. meanwhile, being a binge drinker is really fun. thoughts?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
i dont there there is a difference between alcoholic and problem drinker.

if your drinking is a problem, you are and alcoholic
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 19, 2014, 08:25:01 AM
You should probably take a couple months off of drinking.  Where you are headed isn't a good place.  Been there...
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: j rake on May 19, 2014, 08:42:51 AM
the most pathetic stretch of my life came in college when i discovered pre-chasing (i hated liquor and still do to some extent) and woke up on my bedroom floor, the bathroom floor and in the backyard - all in the span of two summer weeks - because of how quickly i was able to drink the booze that i otherwise wanted no part of.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 19, 2014, 08:58:32 AM
being an alcoholic doesn't seem like it's any fun at all. meanwhile, being a binge drinker is really fun. thoughts?

Not sure much needs to be added.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 19, 2014, 09:08:02 AM
Don't buy a 30 pack buy 6 or 12.

Yeah. Just buy a 6 pack of good beer. Drink it all and you will reach an ideal level without blacking out and making an ass out of yourself. Just have fun until the fridge is done.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2014, 09:15:10 AM

Pretty much everything I do, I tend to do compulsively. So, yes, I tend to drink quickly. Most of my friends end up getting blackout at some point, but I usually reach that point before the rest of them.

How do you know?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 19, 2014, 09:56:23 AM

Pretty much everything I do, I tend to do compulsively. So, yes, I tend to drink quickly. Most of my friends end up getting blackout at some point, but I usually reach that point before the rest of them.

How do you know?

Probably photos with balls on his face.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Big Train on May 19, 2014, 11:30:57 AM
This sounds completely normal deuce. I also am #teamdrinkfast and always have been, probably because I have to drink twice as much to reach the same level as everyone else.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 19, 2014, 12:08:34 PM
i dont there there is a difference between alcoholic and problem drinker.

if your drinking is a problem, you are and alcoholic

drunk?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 19, 2014, 12:20:33 PM
Do you do tons of stupid crap or are you a fun drunk?

Pretty fun till I black out, and then I'm not functioning on a high enough level to do anything incredibly stupid, just kind of an annoying idiot at that point.

Are your friends blacking out with you or are you usually way drunker than everyone else?
I don't drink very often, probably once every two weeks. But recently (past couple years) I don't seem to have the ability to stop drinking once I start. I pretty much drink till I black out if there's not someone else trying to actively curb my intake. So, alcoholic or problem drinker?

Just a guess here, but do you drink really fast? I often find that I finish my drinks quicker than friends, and so I have to space them out differently.  I've recently started chewing a piece of gum between each drink, and I've found that it helps me keep a more reasonable pace.

Pretty much everything I do, I tend to do compulsively. So, yes, I tend to drink quickly. Most of my friends end up getting blackout at some point, but I usually reach that point before the rest of them.

Vegas phoned, they are sending a jet to come pick you up at your house.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 19, 2014, 12:27:47 PM
fun fact- science says you cant be an alcoholic if you drink nice booze. buy more expensive alcohol and youll be fine.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
fun fact- science says you cant be an alcoholic if you drink nice booze. buy more expensive alcohol and youll be fine.

Noted.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
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Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Big Train on May 19, 2014, 12:42:33 PM
 :love:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2014, 12:45:40 PM
Here is a quick check, do you feel like you want a drink, or need a drink. I come from a family full of alcoholism so it's something I am constantly aware of about myself. If I feel I'm in the "need" category, then I will resist (which luckily isn't difficult for me)
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 12:47:19 PM
Don't buy a 30 pack buy 6 or 12.

Yeah. Just buy a 6 pack of good beer. Drink it all and you will reach an ideal level without blacking out and making an ass out of yourself. Just have fun until the fridge is done.

This sounds like a good idea. I'll give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 01:09:39 PM
I think a lot of this depends on how old you are and if you are married and have a family. Also, what are the settings in which you get wasted on a somewhat regular interval of 2 weeks?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
I think a lot of this depends on how old you are and if you are married and have a family. Also, what are the settings in which you get wasted on a somewhat regular interval of 2 weeks?

29, married, no kids, usually at somebody's house/backyard/Waldo/Aggieville.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 01:15:43 PM
I think a lot of this depends on how old you are and if you are married and have a family. Also, what are the settings in which you get wasted on a somewhat regular interval of 2 weeks?

29, married, no kids, usually at somebody's house/backyard/Waldo/Aggieville.
If your wife gets pissed at you about this every time, then you probably have a problem. But, I don't think you have a problem, because I don't recall you ever posting about hating your wife becasue she doesn't like you partying it up from time to time.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
I think a lot of this depends on how old you are and if you are married and have a family. Also, what are the settings in which you get wasted on a somewhat regular interval of 2 weeks?

29, married, no kids, usually at somebody's house/backyard/Waldo/Aggieville.
If your wife gets pissed at you about this every time, then you probably have a problem. But, I don't think you have a problem, because I don't recall you ever posting about hating your wife becasue she doesn't like you partying it up from time to time.

She has no problem with me letting loose, I do think she would appreciate it if I stopped blacking out though. Gonna try the six pack idea and see where that takes me. Possibly try water in between beers as well, for whatever reason that strategy has always seemed to defeat the purpose of drinking though.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2014, 01:19:25 PM
Don't buy a 30 pack buy 6 or 12.

Yeah. Just buy a 6 pack of good beer. Drink it all and you will reach an ideal level without blacking out and making an ass out of yourself. Just have fun until the fridge is done.

This sounds like a good idea. I'll give it a whirl.

i like engineering controls like this.

how about you order a whole large pizza for yourself every time you want to start drinking and make sure you have eaten it all by the time you've downed your first 6 pack. then after the next 6 you will be too full to drink the 6 after that
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2014, 01:21:31 PM
I would be pretty trashed if I drank a six pack of nice beer.

Blacking out every time at 29 is a big problem and a bad idea.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
Don't buy a 30 pack buy 6 or 12.

Yeah. Just buy a 6 pack of good beer. Drink it all and you will reach an ideal level without blacking out and making an ass out of yourself. Just have fun until the fridge is done.

This sounds like a good idea. I'll give it a whirl.

i like engineering controls like this.

how about you order a whole large pizza for yourself every time you want to start drinking and make sure you have eaten it all by the time you've downed your first 6 pack. then after the next 6 you will be too full to drink the 6 after that

I'm trying to stop blacking out so often, not become a fat person.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 01:23:45 PM
Maybe I am confused, but I din't think he was really blacking out. If you actually black out every time you drink, then you should probably stop for a year or 60.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: CHONGS on May 19, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
Blacking out is super bad for you.  I have never blacked out (thank goodness), when I get too drunk my body just rejects the alcohol and saves my brain.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 19, 2014, 01:26:57 PM
Do you get black out drunk just from beer, or are you drinking liquor as well?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 01:27:18 PM
Maybe I am confused, but I din't think he was really blacking out. If you actually black out every time you drink, then you should probably stop for a year or 60.

Well, the past couple years I've had more trouble controlling my intake, so I get pretty slobberknockered pretty much every time I go out. Two out of the last three times I've drank, it's ended in blackout, which hasn't been an issue in the past. It's been mildly concerning, especially at my advanced age of almost thirty.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 01:35:36 PM
If you were my IRL friend, I would tell you that you need to cool it for a while. BBS'n aside.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: 8manpick on May 19, 2014, 01:40:23 PM
I would be pretty trashed if I drank a six pack of nice beer.

:sdeek:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
I would be sober as a judge if I drank a six pack of nice beer.

:sdeek:
FYPs
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Headinjun on May 19, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
Guys,

I drink like the first poster. I never really black out, I just usually realize its 6 am and I should probably lay down. Occasionally I do blackout.

My MO is headphones. I'll wrap up the social setting by putting on headphones and slipping myself away into the beats of every genre imaginable.  This coincides with drinking a very unhealthy amount of beer.


I'd rather smoke weed, because i know that makes me tired and I pass out sooner. Healthier for the liver too.

JOB THO
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 19, 2014, 02:33:04 PM
Just drink to have fun. If it's not fun anymore change something up.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2014, 02:35:26 PM
Just drink to have fun. If it's not fun anymore change something up.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Big Train on May 19, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
I have blacked out exactly 1 time in my life, on my 21st bday.  The last thing I remember doing was spinning the shot wheel thing at fats, no idea when I left, how I got home, or if I even paid for anything.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Mr Bread on May 19, 2014, 02:49:43 PM
I think most people do not want to hang out with someone who blacks out everytime they drink. 
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2014, 02:50:33 PM
I think most people do not want to hang out with someone who blacks out everytime they drink. 

If they liked the person, they would have them slow down before they got blackout drunk. I think the goEMAW community cares more about this guy than his friends.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Mr Bread on May 19, 2014, 02:52:54 PM
I think most people do not want to hang out with someone who blacks out everytime they drink. 

If they liked the person, they would have them slow down before they got blackout drunk. I think the goEMAW community cares more about this guy than his friends.

I do not want to babysit my adult friend.  How sad for them. 
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 02:56:19 PM
I think most people do not want to hang out with someone who blacks out everytime they drink. 

If they liked the person, they would have them slow down before they got blackout drunk. I think the goEMAW community cares more about this guy than his friends.

There is definitely a sub-sect of my friends that are enablers, and don't want to try and curb anyone else's behavior lest someone try and curb theirs. I should have a plan to limit my consumption when I'm around them. Not really sure how I haven't realized this before, but it's very clear at this point.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 19, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
Are you taking shots then blacking out or are you just drinking like 20 beers or something?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: CNS on May 19, 2014, 02:57:25 PM
Just drink to have fun. If it's not fun anymore change something up.

Code word: Drugs
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 02:58:31 PM
Are you taking shots then blacking out or are you just drinking like 20 beers or something?

Mostly just a crap ton of beer. Sometimes there will be shots intermixed.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2014, 03:01:23 PM
I think most people do not want to hang out with someone who blacks out everytime they drink. 

If they liked the person, they would have them slow down before they got blackout drunk. I think the goEMAW community cares more about this guy than his friends.

There is definitely a sub-sect of my friends that are enablers, and don't want to try and curb anyone else's behavior lest someone try and curb theirs. I should have a plan to limit my consumption when I'm around them. Not really sure how I haven't realized this before, but it's very clear at this point.

You should have your behavior curbed. You're going to get hurt or dead if you can't control yourself in a social setting. You're like Mr. Bread, only he won't eat peas and you won't stop drinking until you piss yourself.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Big Train on May 19, 2014, 03:03:15 PM
So these blackouts, are they like the one I had or is it just forgetting bits and pieces of the night?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
So these blackouts, are they like the one I had or is it just forgetting bits and pieces of the night?

Usually it's just a brownout, and that didn't concern me too greatly. The last two were like the one that you described, which has me mildly worried.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Big Train on May 19, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
So these blackouts, are they like the one I had or is it just forgetting bits and pieces of the night?

Usually it's just a brownout, and that didn't concern me too greatly. The last two were like the one that you described, which has me mildly worried.

Yeah you should def cool your jets for a minute
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 19, 2014, 03:12:37 PM
Drinking a glass of water between each beer is an urban legend, never actually been done.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 19, 2014, 03:13:56 PM
Aggieville is probably the hardest place in the world to curb your drinking in. For a whole slew of reasons, which I won't get into here because this isn't an aggieville thread.

Add a bunch of friends enabling you to that, and you've got a problematic equation there.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
I think most people do not want to hang out with someone who blacks out everytime they drink. 

If they liked the person, they would have them slow down before they got blackout drunk. I think the goEMAW community cares more about this guy than his friends.

There is definitely a sub-sect of my friends that are enablers, and don't want to try and curb anyone else's behavior lest someone try and curb theirs. I should have a plan to limit my consumption when I'm around them. Not really sure how I haven't realized this before, but it's very clear at this point.

You should have your behavior curbed. You're going to get hurt or dead if you can't control yourself in a social setting. You're like Mr. Bread, only he won't eat peas and you won't stop drinking until you piss yourself.

Fun fact: never peed myself whilst in blackout mode (or an other mode for that matter, I mean, like past the age of five).
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: CNS on May 19, 2014, 03:17:19 PM
If it's aggieville, it's easy.  Leave your card at home and only take a small amt of cash.  Works like a charm unless enablers also toss around free drinks.  If they do, leave all cash and card at home and learn when to say when.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2014, 03:18:16 PM
I think most people do not want to hang out with someone who blacks out everytime they drink. 

If they liked the person, they would have them slow down before they got blackout drunk. I think the goEMAW community cares more about this guy than his friends.

There is definitely a sub-sect of my friends that are enablers, and don't want to try and curb anyone else's behavior lest someone try and curb theirs. I should have a plan to limit my consumption when I'm around them. Not really sure how I haven't realized this before, but it's very clear at this point.

You should have your behavior curbed. You're going to get hurt or dead if you can't control yourself in a social setting. You're like Mr. Bread, only he won't eat peas and you won't stop drinking until you piss yourself.

Fun fact: never peed myself whilst in blackout mode (or an other mode for that matter, I mean, like past the age of five).

well if that makes you feel better that's great
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 19, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
the older ive gotten the better ive gotten at "welp tonya youre a little mumped up. time to go home."
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 03:27:15 PM
So, it seems like the general consensus is that I should probably take a predetermined hiatus from drinking and when I resume I should bring a limited amount of cash to the bars, and bring an appropriate amount of booze to house settings when I know there will be drinking. You guys are great  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
I really think you shouldn't drink at all outside of your own home.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 19, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
If you become a big-timey business guy one day, you can drink all you want and nobody can tell you crap. Then you'll be the cool business guy that likes to drink whiskey sours, not the sad blackout guy.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
It sounds like you still some what consistently take shots. You are 29, shots of alcohol are for bachelor parties or annual bros getting together for the weekend. I do shots like one weekend a year. There might be a few more times to do shots, but it should be for something special, not just, "Oh hey, all of you guys that I hang out with on the reg, lets do some jaeger bombs!"
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: 8manpick on May 19, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
So, it seems like the general consensus is that I should probably take a predetermined hiatus from drinking and when I resume I should bring a limited amount of cash to the bars, and bring an appropriate amount of booze to house settings when I know there will be drinking. You guys are great  :thumbs:

Quit being such a baby
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: 8manpick on May 19, 2014, 04:08:11 PM
It sounds like you still some what consistently take shots. You are 29, shots of alcohol are for bachelor parties or annual bros getting together for the weekend. I do shots like one weekend a year. There might be a few more times to do shots, but it should be for something special, not just, "Oh hey, all of you guys that I hang out with on the reg, lets do some jaeger bombs!"

Look at this guy! See you Labor Day weekend!
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 04:12:05 PM
It sounds like you still some what consistently take shots. You are 29, shots of alcohol are for bachelor parties or annual bros getting together for the weekend. I do shots like one weekend a year. There might be a few more times to do shots, but it should be for something special, not just, "Oh hey, all of you guys that I hang out with on the reg, lets do some jaeger bombs!"

Look at this guy! See you Labor Day weekend!
Labor Day weekend is certainly a special occasion where shots are likely warranted (not sure I will be doing any, YET).
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Frankenklein on May 19, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
Only drinking once every two weeks is no way to stay in drinking condition.You need more practice.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 19, 2014, 04:50:15 PM
It sounds like you still some what consistently take shots. You are 29, shots of alcohol are for bachelor parties or annual bros getting together for the weekend. I do shots like one weekend a year. There might be a few more times to do shots, but it should be for something special, not just, "Oh hey, all of you guys that I hang out with on the reg, lets do some jaeger bombs!"

Look at this guy! See you Labor Day weekend!
Labor Day weekend is certainly a special occasion where shots are likely warranted (not sure I will be doing any, YET).

You guys make your labor day plans early.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 04:51:27 PM
The plan is a standing one. It's just deciding if I am going or not.


Gonna win 'em all! (But maybe not now)
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 19, 2014, 04:52:14 PM
at first my thought was "quit drinking" but the more I think about it...you're 29 and you can still consistently party like you are 22.  Sounds like you have a gift.  Did you ever see Rookie of the Year?  Maybe it's like that.  Although, I'm not sure what playing in the majors is equivalent to in this metaphor...
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2014, 05:40:46 PM
29 isn't ancient you assholes
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 06:36:11 PM
29 isn't ancient you assholes

Yeah, this thread is making me feel pretty old, I always had assumed I was pretty young still.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: sunny_cat on May 19, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
29 isn't ancient you assholes

Yeah, this thread is making me feel pretty old, I always had assumed I was pretty young still.

You are.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 19, 2014, 06:44:00 PM
It's all situational. If you have an awesome life and are out with friends on big occasions in awesome places and you get loaded, that's awesome. If it's a tuesday night and you're pounding shots with your two drinking buddies you see every other day down at shot stop, it's kinda sad. No judgement here, just my take.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Trim on May 19, 2014, 06:46:51 PM
What exactly is worrying you?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: sunny_cat on May 19, 2014, 06:55:32 PM
It's all situational. If you have an awesome life and are out with friends on big occasions in awesome places and you get loaded, that's awesome. If it's a tuesday night and you're pounding shots with your two drinking buddies you see every other day down at shot stop, it's kinda sad. No judgement here, just my take.

More like benjudgmental ;)
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 19, 2014, 06:56:00 PM
What exactly is worrying you?

It sounds like he's worried about perception more than anything else. If you enjoy your life and are having fun who cares. I mean don't listen to me because my life blows right now so what do I know.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 19, 2014, 06:56:41 PM
It's all situational. If you have an awesome life and are out with friends on big occasions in awesome places and you get loaded, that's awesome. If it's a tuesday night and you're pounding shots with your two drinking buddies you see every other day down at shot stop, it's kinda sad. No judgement here, just my take.

More like benjudgmental ;)

ouch
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 19, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
The plan is a standing one. It's just deciding if I am going or not.


Gonna win 'em all! (But maybe not now)
attend, please.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
I would say 99% of this board are alcoholics, but fun ones. So that's different.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
I'm a 1%er.


Gonna win 'em all! (But maybe not now)
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 19, 2014, 08:03:31 PM
What exactly is worrying you?

Like, I'm pretty sure it's at least a little detrimental to your health when you black out. Also, wouldn't want to get to a point where I had to stop drinking all together because I couldn't keep it under control.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ben ji on May 19, 2014, 08:12:25 PM
the older ive gotten the better ive gotten at "welp tonya youre a little mumped up. time to go home."

This.

I used to pound beers/shots/bombs  3 or 4 nights a week in aggieville.

Then I graduated and would binge on the weekends, usually at least 1 night.

Then I got in my mid 20's and would think "Wow, its already 12:30??" I'm kinda drunk and should probably get a cab home before they are all gone"

I'm almost in my late 20's now and barely go out  :frown:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: AST on May 19, 2014, 08:16:46 PM
blackout drinking is not cool.  i had to stop drinking from 26-32 because i was a blackout drinker.  hopefully you don't have to learn the hard way like me.  it took me waking up in a jail cell with no memory of driving drunk and getting arrested the night before.  hopefully you can be wise and mind the subtle and not so subtle advise that efriends and irl friends hand out.  maybe someday you can handle drinking a little and stopping, maybe you never will be able to handle that.

i got lucky and only emotionally hurt family and friends.  i am still so thankful that i never killed someone on that night or any other that i blacked out.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: 'taterblast on May 19, 2014, 08:17:37 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: michigancat on May 20, 2014, 08:25:37 AM
Yep, it's not about "having fun", it's about staying safe and out of jail. If you can't control how much you drink....you can't control yourself.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Trim on May 20, 2014, 09:54:42 AM
What exactly is worrying you?

Like, I'm pretty sure it's at least a little detrimental to your health when you black out. Also, wouldn't want to get to a point where I had to stop drinking all together because I couldn't keep it under control.

Detrimental to your health as in bad things will happen while you're blacked out (going to jail, injuring self, etc.) or just that blacking out has some isolated effect?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Trim on May 20, 2014, 12:28:53 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/20/5034736/channing-tatum-calls-himself-a.html
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: slobber on May 20, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2014, 12:33:22 PM
yeah, I guess I would compare myself to channing tatum
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 20, 2014, 12:35:43 PM
There is a direct correlation between IQ and desire to drink as well.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2014, 03:03:47 PM
I'd define addiction as use of the something to the point where it damages yourself (mentally or physically), ruins relationships (friends, partners, children, family, etc.), or causing you to lose work/suck at work/call in repeatedly.

Also, only you can determine whether or not you are an alcoholic.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: steve dave on May 23, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
I'm problem drinking right now :(
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Benja on May 23, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
I'm problem drinking right now :(

 :nono:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: jmlynch1 on May 23, 2014, 06:28:42 PM
 
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/20/5034736/channing-tatum-calls-himself-a.html
wow, we share the exact same view on cake (Betty Crocker has discontinued the funfetti frosting which is why it's hard to find). I probably drink more tho.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: cas4ksu on May 23, 2014, 06:56:17 PM
It's all about limits. Freshman and Soph. year, I'd blackout relatively regularly. Obviously not the most flattering way to present yourself. By Jr. year, the key was to simply not buy more alcohol than you could drink. ie: instead of getting a case and splitting it with a buddy for a tailgate, get something less.

I don't know what it is about the way my brain works, but since I bought 15 beers I feel like I MUST drink all 15 beers or it's a waste.

However, when you get to the bar scene it's much trickier. I would simply suggest sticking with beer or if you hate beer than just to go with the watered down shots that you can get. Also, living near Aggieville, if I feel like I'm already too drunk and ready for bed or to get some late night food I can just walk the 5 minute walk to my apartment. Having a close out to leave the bars is also a major key, IMO.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: AbeFroman on May 23, 2014, 10:20:54 PM
I try to drink less by buying 4 packs instead of 6 packs, but these 4 packs are often 8+% alcohol, so I end up getting just as pak'd. What do?
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: steve dave on May 23, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Drink fewer of them
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 24, 2014, 02:16:08 AM
it's pretty common for society to label those who have to limit how much alcohol they buy at one time, because they won't stop drinking until it is gone, as alcoholics. regardless, most people realize at a certain point that things that happen when they blackout are not good, so they either learn to cut themselves off, develop a control or completely abstain. it takes a lot more for some people to learn this compared to others.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Bloodfart on May 24, 2014, 02:26:08 AM
I don't know what you're saying,
but that's what's going on, yeah.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 24, 2014, 02:29:21 AM
Do that thing where you tell me I'm drunk again, because this time I am.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 24, 2014, 02:33:51 AM
cut myself off tho <- not a problem drinker.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on May 24, 2014, 02:35:58 AM
binge level IX  :Flipped off x2:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2014, 03:56:40 AM
i still don't get the worries of the OP. are you saying stuff you regret later? are you drunk driving? are you acting the fool 24/7? what's the root of the problem here. because 100% of people on planet earth drink as much as they can get away with without encountering judgment or whatever
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 24, 2014, 09:11:20 AM
i still don't get the worries of the OP. are you saying stuff you regret later? are you drunk driving? are you acting the fool 24/7? what's the root of the problem here. because 100% of people on planet earth drink as much as they can get away with without encountering judgment or whatever

Not really any of those things, but blacking out presents an opportunity to do something very regrettable. Trying not to cross that bridge. I'm really not that worried about it though. I've got some controls I'm going to put in place to limit the chances of it happening again.
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: 8manpick on May 24, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
binge level IX  :Flipped off x2:

Is that binge level 9? :runaway:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: The Big Train on May 24, 2014, 10:34:32 AM
binge level IX  :Flipped off x2:

Is that binge level 9? :runaway:

On a 7 point scale!?  :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2014, 01:08:49 PM
Out till 2,at work at 7.....no problem  :whistle1:
Title: Re: Alcoholic vs problem drinker
Post by: CNS on May 24, 2014, 01:23:39 PM
OP's friends should do him a fav and put a gun in his hand, a gas station bag full of $1s, $5s, and quarters in his other hand, a skimask bunched up on top of his head once he passes out and just let him wake up with all that.

Prob solved