According to pretty much everyone on my Twitter TL, Bowlsby pretty much blew up the NCAA.
Twitter said that individual sports may look at creating federations for each sport, whatevs that means.
Also said that there are way too many D1 schools and it is just wasting kids and taxpayer's money.
Said that abandoning the NCAA is not what everyone wants to do, but is a remaining last resort.
Reading between the tweets, it basically was him saying that the NCAA is mumped, needs to change immediately, that all the major programs agree on this, that a select few of programs are cheating their asses off with no repercussions, and that all the big programs wouldn't mind leaving and forming a different org if it doesn't change.
It seemed very much so to be a very public and vocal challenge to the NCAA.
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Twitter said that individual sports may look at creating federations for each sport, whatevs that means.
Also said that there are way too many D1 schools and it is just wasting kids and taxpayer's money.
Said that abandoning the NCAA is not what everyone wants to do, but is a remaining last resort.
Reading between the tweets, it basically was him saying that the NCAA is mumped, needs to change immediately, that all the major programs agree on this, that a select few of programs are cheating their asses off with no repercussions, and that all the big programs wouldn't mind leaving and forming a different org if it doesn't change.
It seemed very much so to be a very public and vocal challenge to the NCAA.
To add to this, Bowlsby said that there are 70 schools that win 90 percent of the championships in the NCAA and, “We have a bunch of others that don't look like the others yet are trying to compete.” He added that he believed it was time to think about federation by size (sorry, TCU) and scope and perhaps by sport.
uh...so where does KSU fit into that projection of 70 teams?
I know a thread that it could go to. Nobody uses that crap hole anymore. http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=16306.0timhawk thread
Yeah, it's frustrating what the next 12 pages are going to become. Really need a Timhawk Stuff thread in the pit to keep threads like this readable and at very least moderately dumbass free.
I really like Gary.
Can we get back to talking about how the logo highlights the conference's conservative philosophy and also pays tribute to OU?
I really like Gary.Same here. Wish Fitz would've never mumped up our relationship
Charlie is struggling to breathe. Did he just run a couple miles or is he wheezing this bad just sitting there? It is over a breath a sentence.
:sdeek:
Charlie is struggling to breathe. Did he just run a couple miles or is he wheezing this bad just sitting there? It is over a breath a sentence.It takes a lot of oxygen to convert Awesome.
:sdeek:
New official nickname for KU football
"Pile of Crap"
It will be embarrassing when your team gets beaten by a pile of crap.
Chuck has no plan of being their long term. Seems pretty obvs.
He also doesn't seem to care how those 5 yrs play out or how he leaves the pile of crap when it is his time to go. 9-5 paycheck.
wow did Charlie really say that?Yup! Openly talking crap on his own. #burnitdown
wow did Charlie really say that?http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2013/07/kansas-charlie-weis-wins-day-1-best-quote-have-you-looked-at-that-pile-of-crap-out-there-referencing-his-football-team-last-season.html/
Charlie's a badass he can do what he want
I really enjoy these types of things because had any other coach in the Big 12 said that about their team phogtucks.com would be having a field day with it.
Was Bob Huggins or Frank ever that harsh? I don't recall if so.
Imagine if you were a player on the team last year, busting your butt, "almost winning" 3 conference games and your coach tells you were a pile of crap?
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.Years to come
Long-rumored, now a reality: In-game highlights from other games across the conference will be shown in stadiums during timeouts this year.
He's blaming his players and not taking responsibility for his own actions. A big reason for that pile of crap, was one of his boys, Dayne Crist. He'll stomp on Turner Gill's ghost as long as he's here. Circle of life and stuff.Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
I really enjoy these types of things because had any other coach in the Big 12 said that about their team phogtucks.com would be having a field day with it.
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
Tim you catch a lot of flack here so I'm going to answer honestly.
Coach speak is a term used for a reason, he can say whatever he wants in the locker room but this is big 12 media days and trashing your team in public is dumb
Was Bob Huggins or Frank ever that harsh? I don't recall if so.
Imagine if you were a player on the team last year, busting your butt, "almost winning" 3 conference games and your coach tells you were a pile of crap?
I would mutiny. I would walk right up to coach Weis, grab his clipboard and then toss it 30 yards down the field. I would then stroll off the field like a boss and laugh at Weis' fat waddling ass trying to chase me down but not being able to keep up.
Was Bob Huggins or Frank ever that harsh? I don't recall if so.
Imagine if you were a player on the team last year, busting your butt, "almost winning" 3 conference games and your coach tells you were a pile of crap?
Was Bob Huggins or Frank ever that harsh? I don't recall if so.
Imagine if you were a player on the team last year, busting your butt, "almost winning" 3 conference games and your coach tells you were a pile of crap?
Slap in the face to Heeny and Simms. Just the ultimate disrespect
Was Bob Huggins or Frank ever that harsh? I don't recall if so.
Imagine if you were a player on the team last year, busting your butt, "almost winning" 3 conference games and your coach tells you were a pile of crap?
Slap in the face to Heeny and Simms. Just the ultimate disrespect
haha, ultimate slap in the face for Sims was not being put on the first team.
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
Tim you catch a lot of flack here so I'm going to answer honestly.
Coach speak is a term used for a reason, he can say whatever he wants in the locker room but this is big 12 media days and trashing your team in public is dumb
once again this is the wussification of football...no longer can players hit the QB, running backs can't lead with their head to protect the ball and fight for extra yards and coaches get fired for being a little hard on their players. Come on it's football, if you can't handle being called a "pile of crap" when in fact your play was that then maybe you shouldn't be playing football. I have NO problem with what charlie said although he probably could have worded it better.
he probably could have worded it better.
I really enjoy these types of things because had any other coach in the Big 12 said that about their team phogtucks.com would be having a field day with it.
The only other Big 12 coach who is in a position to say that is Rhodes, and at least his pile of crap made it to a bowl game.
Was Bob Huggins or Frank ever that harsh? I don't recall if so.
Imagine if you were a player on the team last year, busting your butt, "almost winning" 3 conference games and your coach tells you were a pile of crap?
Slap in the face to Heeny and Simms. Just the ultimate disrespect
haha, ultimate slap in the face for Sims was not being put on the first team.
Seastrunk is much better. Being called a pile of crap by your coach is worse.
Was Bob Huggins or Frank ever that harsh? I don't recall if so.
Imagine if you were a player on the team last year, busting your butt, "almost winning" 3 conference games and your coach tells you were a pile of crap?
Slap in the face to Heeny and Simms. Just the ultimate disrespect
haha, ultimate slap in the face for Sims was not being put on the first team.
Seastrunk is much better. Being called a pile of crap by your coach is worse.
hubert
I really enjoy these types of things because had any other coach in the Big 12 said that about their team phogtucks.com would be having a field day with it.
But... gE is having a field day with it, ipso facto, you've just conflated phogtucks.com and gE.com :sdeek:
If K-State was that bad, I wouldn't care if the coach said it. Having terrible players ain't working.
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
Tim you catch a lot of flack here so I'm going to answer honestly.
Coach speak is a term used for a reason, he can say whatever he wants in the locker room but this is big 12 media days and trashing your team in public is dumb
once again this is the wussification of football...no longer can players hit the QB, running backs can't lead with their head to protect the ball and fight for extra yards and coaches get fired for being a little hard on their players. Come on it's football, if you can't handle being called a "pile of crap" when in fact your play was that then maybe you shouldn't be playing football. I have NO problem with what charlie said although he probably could have worded it better.
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
Tim you catch a lot of flack here so I'm going to answer honestly.
Coach speak is a term used for a reason, he can say whatever he wants in the locker room but this is big 12 media days and trashing your team in public is dumb
once again this is the wussification of football...no longer can players hit the QB, running backs can't lead with their head to protect the ball and fight for extra yards and coaches get fired for being a little hard on their players. Come on it's football, if you can't handle being called a "pile of crap" when in fact your play was that then maybe you shouldn't be playing football. I have NO problem with what charlie said although he probably could have worded it better.
Huge difference between being called a pile of crap on the field, in the locker room, etc. than having it said at the media. One is perfectly acceptable. The other isn't. Saying such things doesn't make you a tough guy. It makes you a shitty coach. Your defense of it shows how far you went in your athletic career. FWIW.
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
Tim you catch a lot of flack here so I'm going to answer honestly.
Coach speak is a term used for a reason, he can say whatever he wants in the locker room but this is big 12 media days and trashing your team in public is dumb
once again this is the wussification of football...no longer can players hit the QB, running backs can't lead with their head to protect the ball and fight for extra yards and coaches get fired for being a little hard on their players. Come on it's football, if you can't handle being called a "pile of crap" when in fact your play was that then maybe you shouldn't be playing football. I have NO problem with what charlie said although he probably could have worded it better.
Huge difference between being called a pile of crap on the field, in the locker room, etc. than having it said at the media. One is perfectly acceptable. The other isn't. Saying such things doesn't make you a tough guy. It makes you a shitty coach. Your defense of it shows how far you went in your athletic career. FWIW.
as we all know media likes to blow things out of proportion. if the players on the team aren't thick skinned enough to be called crap in the media then they need to take up synchronized swimming.
Maybe it's just a misunderstanding.
Charlie will say it at next year's media days, too, god willing.
would you rather him lie and say KU is an amazing team?
Tim you catch a lot of flack here so I'm going to answer honestly.
Coach speak is a term used for a reason, he can say whatever he wants in the locker room but this is big 12 media days and trashing your team in public is dumb
once again this is the wussification of football...no longer can players hit the QB, running backs can't lead with their head to protect the ball and fight for extra yards and coaches get fired for being a little hard on their players. Come on it's football, if you can't handle being called a "pile of crap" when in fact your play was that then maybe you shouldn't be playing football. I have NO problem with what charlie said although he probably could have worded it better.
Maybe it's just a misunderstanding.
Well, I doubt they are all in a pile.
No one is disputing if ku football is a fetid pile of crap, it clearly is. We are debating whether the head coach needs to be calling it that in public.
No one is disputing if ku football is a fetid pile of crap, it clearly is. We are debating whether the head coach needs to be calling it that in public.
I know many of you are just entertaining yourselves, but for anyone who is actually butthurt about it, you need to view it in context. Charlie was talking about the on-field results of last year. I think an objective observer would agree that 1-11 is, in fact, a pile of crap. Any player on last years team would agree that the on-field results were sub-standard. You also have to remember that the question was about selling recruits, and his answer was a pitch for playing time. The players understand how Charlie communicates much better than we do. I doubt very seriously any of them are hanging their heads and muttering, "gosh coach, but we tried really hard..."
Is anybody else just a little bit concerned that Sims just might murder Weis for this?
Is anybody else just a little bit concerned that Sims just might murder Weis for this?
That would be crappy.
I'm with timhawk on this one. Charlie was in fact referring to a literal pile of crap with that quote. The media don't know what they are quoting / talking about.
KSU's Tre Walker on Texas: "They kind of laid down a little bit. That's nothing to say about their character. That's just what they do."
Tre Walker in a Q&A with the press scares us to death.
Shows you how smart Tre Walker is. You have to be standing up in order to lie down.
Mack will make sure that quote is hidden from the players, that's not good for them to read.
For the most part that's been the case during the entirety of Mack's tenure here. Some years talent hid it others not so much. 2005 was a clear exception. So was 2009. Otherwise tell us something we don't already know dip$#@!.
KSU has a history of beating us - easy to see why this kid would have such a perception.
Just because we're 0-5 against KSU since that young man started playing high school football?
Just because Coach Brown is 2-7 all time against KSU while at Texas, a program littered with guys who wouldn't have even popped up on Mack's 4-star radar?
Just because KSU has outscored us 301-175 over that span?
Just because in our 7 losses to them, they double up our score on average (38-19)?
Why the hate? KSU scares some people to death alright?
And I really wish Coach Brown would stop referring to 22 year old men as "Kids."
Just because we treat them like kids and coddle them at Texas doesn't mean they aren't "Young Men." I wouldn't consider men this large who have classmates that have been to war already "Kids."
QuoteKSU's Tre Walker on Texas: "They kind of laid down a little bit. That's nothing to say about their character. That's just what they do."
you guys really need to get off kliff's nuts.no thanks
Being an EMAW in the Austin area is so much fun, you guys.
Being an EMAW in the Austin area is so much fun, you guys.
they can just tell, can't they?
:love:Being an EMAW in the Austin area is so much fun, you guys.
they can just tell, can't they?
Wear purple in Austin and any UT fan who knows we exist (~60% of them) will very subtly go through the entire 5 stages of grief in their facial expressions. All in about the course of 2 seconds.
Being an EMAW in the Austin area is so much fun, you guys.
they can just tell, can't they?
Wear purple in Austin and any UT fan who knows we exist (~60% of them) will very subtly go through the entire 5 stages of grief in their facial expressions. All in about the course of 2 seconds.
Being an EMAW in the Austin area is so much fun, you guys.
Yeah, the people who have an actual connection to the school will always be good to you. The rich types with no connections will be all smuggy and expect to win but not much worse than that. The poors with the wal-mart t-shirts (bonfire Aggie has a HUGE hard-on for this meme btw) and no connections will just ask where Kansas is.
Two counties away! :driving:Yeah, the people who have an actual connection to the school will always be good to you. The rich types with no connections will be all smuggy and expect to win but not much worse than that. The poors with the wal-mart t-shirts (bonfire Aggie has a HUGE hard-on for this meme btw) and no connections will just ask where Kansas is.
that is a silly question. kansas is directly north of texas and just one state away. they should know that by looking at a map.
congrats on your straightforward coach, tim
Tim is working overtime on all sports outlets to make sure ppl understand this isn't a big deal. :love: gE, phog, Kusports, etc. he can't take the heat! :love: :love: :love:
That Weis comment was a direct shot at his fan base which claims they have as much talent as the league champion. It's in his best interest for his fan base to know he is coaching a pile of crap. Takes a lot of pressure off.
:bill::lol:Tim is working overtime on all sports outlets to make sure ppl understand this isn't a big deal. :love: gE, phog, Kusports, etc. he can't take the heat! :love: :love: :love:
I had to plow your girl first
That Weis comment was a direct shot at his fan base which claims they have as much talent as the league champion. It's in his best interest for his fan base to know he is coaching a pile of crap. Takes a lot of pressure off.
Being an EMAW in the Austin area is so much fun, you guys.
San Marcos poseur.
Yeah, the people who have an actual connection to the school will always be good to you. The rich types with no connections will be all smuggy and expect to win but not much worse than that. The poors with the wal-mart t-shirts (bonfire Aggie has a HUGE hard-on for this meme btw) and no connections will just ask where Kansas is.
that is a silly question. kansas is directly north of texas and just one state away. they should know that by looking at a map.
Being an EMAW in the Austin area is so much fun, you guys.
San Marcos poseur.
Yeah except I lived in ATX for 8 years.Yeah, the people who have an actual connection to the school will always be good to you. The rich types with no connections will be all smuggy and expect to win but not much worse than that. The poors with the wal-mart t-shirts (bonfire Aggie has a HUGE hard-on for this meme btw) and no connections will just ask where Kansas is.
that is a silly question. kansas is directly north of texas and just one state away. they should know that by looking at a map.
Well some of them do compliment us on our superior Jayhawk basketball program :dubious:
the stubble does him wonders
“I can’t stand playing at Iowa State. It’s like playing in the middle of a cornfield.” — Kansas State linebacker Tre Walker on his least favorite place to play
if tre actually plays well he could make a good candidate to fill harp's void
if tre actually plays well he could make a good candidate to fill harp's void
nope, sams is the only one who could come close.
Do Big 12 football fans know where Lawrence is? True question? How many peeps have drove to MHK expecting a game and then go "OH eff!"
anyone know how many straight conf losses ku has? gotta be a lot
He has been talking A LOT at media days.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1712610-big-12-media-days-winners-and-losers-of-day-1 :cheers:
The two most particularly annoying mascots on Monday were the Jayhawk and the Cyclone from Iowa State. The two were running around together like kids playing tag throughout the interview room, and even the halls outside.
No surprise that Iowa State and Kansas are ranked ninth and 10th, respectively, in the Big 12 preseason polls.
Harp was really good at football, Tre is average at best. Reeks of Deon Murphy. Tre should just STFU imo. He can't cash those checks.But Miami tho.
anyone know how many straight conf losses ku has? gotta be a lot
Oklahoma: 2-8 (I can't remember when they beat OU?)
anyone know how many straight conf losses ku has? gotta be a lot
Oklahoma: 2-8 (I can't remember when they beat OU?)
96 and 97.....John blake man....
He has been talking A LOT at media days.
It's like he knows he's going to run a lot of stairs, so he's going to get as much mileage out of this as he can.
Did Stoopsie say Gay Biker?
Tre enjoys marketing Tre, but humbly for The Lord.
Loser: Charlie Weis
What has Tre done except get beat out by a walkon and get hurt and hold a block of wood. Yippie. He made a tackle against miami. He can't play 2013 football. If all the offenses revert back to eye formations and running inside the tackles then he'll be successful.:sdeek:
Milo. He might have earned a scholly by year end. Milo was a walkon at butler too iirc. Tre did not see tbe field that much because he doesn't have the skill set needed to be effective against big 12 offenses. That's why his injury last year had zero effect on the defense.
I think Tre touched 'Zacker, right after he caught a beautiful bass.
Milo. He might have earned a scholly by year end. Milo was a walkon at butler too iirc. Tre did not see tbe field that much because he doesn't have the skill set needed to be effective against big 12 offenses. That's why his injury last year had zero effect on the defense.
:confused: Tre plays linebacker, Milo played safety. Milo didn't even play the Nickel spot that would make your argument effective. Offense comes in with 10/11 personnel they're going to switch to Nickel, and decided that Brown/Childs and Brown/Tuggle was a better combo against those personnels. to use that as an argument that he sucks is stupid.
What has Tre done except get beat out by a walkon and get hurt and hold a block of wood. Yippie. He made a tackle against miami. He can't play 2013 football. If all the offenses revert back to eye formations and running inside the tackles then he'll be successful.
:eek:I think Tre touched 'Zacker, right after he caught a beautiful bass.
Tre tried but much like the football field he was too slow and couldn't catch me.
What has Tre done except get beat out by a walkon and get hurt and hold a block of wood. Yippie. He made a tackle against miami. He can't play 2013 football. If all the offenses revert back to eye formations and running inside the tackles then he'll be successful.
You've never had football gear on past 8th grade, I'm guessing...
:dubious:
so fun to witness zacker coaching these kids up :thumbs:
Tuggle waw essentially brought in to rush the passer. Childs and milo, essentially, took tre's place because tre is worthless against big 12 offenses.
Tuggle waw essentially brought in to rush the passer. Childs and milo, essentially, took tre's place because tre is worthless against big 12 offenses.
Milo has nothing to do with it
But you are correct, I switched tre getting beat out by a juco walkon (milo) with a rb turned into a lb (child's). Either way, tre was not good enough to see the field and doesn't have the skill set to do anything except hold a block of wood.tre will play where AB played last year and I believe our coaches are smart enough to make changes that will allow Tre and the D to be as effective as possible. Obviously Tre doesn't have AB's insane athleticism but he has always been a physical player and a sure tackler. In fact, Tre's willingness to take on blocks vs AB running around them may be a better fit for what will have to be a an assignment sound D that appears to lack playmakers outside of Zimm
NOW football season feels like it's here. i'd like to rescind my previous "meh"
LOL WHAAT? Tre will not play where AB played last year. Blake Slaughter will and he is better than TreBut you are correct, I switched tre getting beat out by a juco walkon (milo) with a rb turned into a lb (child's). Either way, tre was not good enough to see the field and doesn't have the skill set to do anything except hold a block of wood.tre will play where AB played last year and I believe our coaches are smart enough to make changes that will allow Tre and the D to be as effective as possible. Obviously Tre doesn't have AB's insane athleticism but he has always been a physical player and a sure tackler. In fact, Tre's willingness to take on blocks vs AB running around them may be a better fit for what will have to be a an assignment sound D that appears to lack playmakers outside of Zimm
just stop saying he sucks. he does not suck.
the biggest problem that walker has is the fact that he has such a great nickname that i want him to be better than his body lets him be.
Tuggle waw essentially brought in to rush the passer. Childs and milo, essentially, took tre's place because tre is worthless against big 12 offenses.
Tuggle waw essentially brought in to rush the passer. Childs and milo, essentially, took tre's place because tre is worthless against big 12 offenses.
Milo was essentially a great player
Tuggle waw essentially brought in to rush the passer. Childs and milo, essentially, took tre's place because tre is worthless against big 12 offenses.
Milo was essentially a great player
whoa, great?
Tuggle waw essentially brought in to rush the passer. Childs and milo, essentially, took tre's place because tre is worthless against big 12 offenses.
Milo was essentially a great player
whoa, great?
Tuggle waw essentially brought in to rush the passer. Childs and milo, essentially, took tre's place because tre is worthless against big 12 offenses.
Milo was essentially a great player
whoa, great?
Ring
ISU is top 20 in attendance nationally. Record setting numbers for each of last two years. Come to Ames. It is a great place to watch a fun team. Ranked teams beware....
12:21 PM
Brian
Its going to take at least a Big12 Championship...and a run at a national championship for the nation to take notice. I think Rhodes can do it though.
12:17 PM
Paul
Does Coach Rhoads feel that Iowa State is a sleeping giant? They have an incredible fan base that is truly loyal. Big attendance numbers the last 5-10 seasons. What is it going to take for the rest of the nation to take notice?
WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR THE REST OF THE NATION TO TAKE NOTICE?
walker is pretty shitty. kind of in the same way that klein was shitty.If you think Klein was shitty, you're a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) at best.
Quote12:21 PM
Brian
Its going to take at least a Big12 Championship...and a run at a national championship for the nation to take notice. I think Rhodes can do it though.
It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
Would be funnier if UT hired Briles and Rhodes went to Baylor.
and ISU hires Wies because Wies is go at that crap, tricking people in paying him and stuff.It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
Would be funnier if UT hired Briles and Rhodes went to Baylor.
:Dand ISU hires Wies because Wies is go at that crap, tricking people in paying him and stuff.It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
Would be funnier if UT hired Briles and Rhodes went to Baylor.
:Dand ISU hires Wies because Wies is go at that crap, tricking people in paying him and stuff.It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
Would be funnier if UT hired Briles and Rhodes went to Baylor.
It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
:Dand ISU hires Wies because Wies is go at that crap, tricking people in paying him and stuff.It's going to be pretty hilarious all around when Texas finally fires Mack and then hires Rhodes. The ISU butthurt after the announcement, followed by the Texas meltdown after his first season will provide an entire year of :popcorn:.
Would be funnier if UT hired Briles and Rhodes went to Baylor.
Holy crap. Wackycat caught someone pulling a Wackycat.
Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby started off Big 12 media days on Monday. Here are a few highlights from his time at the podium.
On cheating:
“Cheating pays presently. If you seek to conspire to certainly bend the rules, you can do it successfully and probably not get caught in most occasions.”
On how much cheating is going on:
“I don’t think it’s rampant, I don’t think that at all. I think our coaches and programs are of high integrity, and I don’t have any concerns on a local basis. I don’t think it’s cut rate out there, but I think those that conspire to do things that are intended to get around the rules have less resistance to it now than they ?? they’ve gotten very sophisticated. It’s easy to move money around.”
On the troubles with the NCAA:
“We certainly are operating in a strange environment in that we have lawsuits … plus we have the O’Bannon lawsuit. I think all of that in the end will cause programs to be eliminated. I think you’ll see men’s Olympics sports go away as a result of the new funding challenges that are coming down the pipe. I think there may be tension among and between sports on campus and institutions that have different resources. It’s really unknown what the outcomes will be.”
On paying football and basketball players revenue sports:
“It is hard to justify paying student?athletes in football and men’s basketball and not recognizing the significant effort that swimmers and wrestlers and lacrosse players and track athletes all put in. Football and basketball players don’t work any harder than anybody else; they just happen to have the blessing of an adoring public who is willing to pay for the tickets and willing to buy the products on television that come with the high visibility.
On the student-athletes and their relationship to schools:
“Student?athletes are not employees. They should never be employees. It’s not an employee/employer relationship. It’s just ?? it’s a total square peg in a round hole.But the scholarship is going to change.”
On the changes to scholarships and how it will affect other sports. :
“Even in an environment where we have some additional revenue coming in from television resources, primarily, it is going to be very difficult for many institutions to fund that. It is not hundreds of thousands of dollars a year; it’s millions of dollars a year. It is probably going to extend into the consideration of other benefits for student?athletes, which is great. But in the end, it’s a somewhat zero?sum game. There’s only so much money out there. … I think over a period of time what we’ll find is that instead of keeping a tennis program, they’re going to do the things that it takes to keep the football and men’s and women’s basketball programs strong.”
On the Big 12 not having a championship game and how it might affect them for the College Football Playoff:
“I like our path to the championship. Our champion has been decided on the last day of the season for about five years. So we have great competition at the end of the year. I think there will be a year when we’ll say: Gosh, if we could have just played one more good opponent we might have been able to demonstrate that we were good enough. But you also, when you play that playoff game at the end of the year, you also have two of your better teams presumably that play each other, and one of them becomes damaged goods. And it may not be the one you want.”
On the NCAA’s finances:
“The NCAA is currently headed down a path of significant financial difficulty. … When those lines cross, they’re going to stay crossed for a while. In doing that, I think it’s also a good time to re?evaluate what our core purposes are, why does it exist, what is it doing for people and to people and how can we go about sharpening our focus and making sure that we’re spending where there’s appropriate return on investment and where the membership needs to have that investment.
“So we have lots of challenges on our hands. I don’t think there’s any question that none of this is going to go away soon. I expect to be in court most of the rest of my career.”
On changes going forward:
“Change is coming. If you like what you see in intercollegiate athletics right now, you’re going to be disappointed when the change comes, because it’s coming. The scholarships are going to change. The relationship between student?athletes and their universities are going to change. I expect significant change will come in the area of recruiting from the very earliest stages of the recruitment process through campus visits and the declaration and signing of the national letter of intent.”
It seems that we are prepared to let then entire model of amateur athletics be destroyed.
All in the name of compensating a handful of individuals in revenue generating sports.
we live in a time of great greed
It seems that we are prepared to let then entire model of amateur athletics be destroyed.You must be talking about the overpaid coaches. That'S what ruined it for college sports.
All in the name of compensating a handful of individuals in revenue generating sports.
we live in a time of great greed
Yes, this is simply acknowledging and adapting to changes that occurred over a period of many years. In a way it's similar to how the Olympic Games was purely amateur in the 1950s and then by the 1990s it was fully professional. (Remember the "Dream Team"!) Except that the Olympics isn't the one that pays the athletes, while the new collegiate model will involve the athletes being paid by the schools.Good thing we found 135 mil to fund the BSFS. :whistle1:
But it's maybe not great news for KSU athletics. We already offer the least sports of any school in the Big 12, and so operate a leaner business than most others. Like, we can't eliminate men's tennis as a budget item in order to pay our offensive linemen, since we already cut men's tennis in the 1970s.
I know I'm painfully old-fashioned, but I don't like it.
Yes, this is simply acknowledging and adapting to changes that occurred over a period of many years. In a way it's similar to how the Olympic Games was purely amateur in the 1950s and then by the 1990s it was fully professional. (Remember the "Dream Team"!) Except that the Olympics isn't the one that pays the athletes, while the new collegiate model will involve the athletes being paid by the schools.
But it's maybe not great news for KSU athletics. We already offer the least sports of any school in the Big 12, and so operate a leaner business than most others. Like, we can't eliminate men's tennis as a budget item in order to pay our offensive linemen, since we already cut men's tennis in the 1970s.
I know I'm painfully old-fashioned, but I don't like it.
Yes, this is simply acknowledging and adapting to changes that occurred over a period of many years. In a way it's similar to how the Olympic Games was purely amateur in the 1950s and then by the 1990s it was fully professional. (Remember the "Dream Team"!) Except that the Olympics isn't the one that pays the athletes, while the new collegiate model will involve the athletes being paid by the schools.
But it's maybe not great news for KSU athletics. We already offer the least sports of any school in the Big 12, and so operate a leaner business than most others. Like, we can't eliminate men's tennis as a budget item in order to pay our offensive linemen, since we already cut men's tennis in the 1970s.
I know I'm painfully old-fashioned, but I don't like it.
I don't think that comment was directed at us. It's at those schools carrying a full range of non-revenue sports.
I think Bob is saying that we're going to see a drop to something more like what we have.
What if Bob's argument were applied to like, any real job? "Why should we give the Engineers a raise but not the basket weavers? Just because there are fervent fans of iPhones and Televisions who are willing to pay for them, do they really work any harder than the people weaving baskets on the side of the road?"
The collusive rules preventing persons going from HS directly to the pros are very un-free market. You can either make young people participate in college athletics or make them play for free, not both.What if Bob's argument were applied to like, any real job? "Why should we give the Engineers a raise but not the basket weavers? Just because there are fervent fans of iPhones and Televisions who are willing to pay for them, do they really work any harder than the people weaving baskets on the side of the road?"
It's sort of different, though, because college football is not a real job, and the free market has already demonstrated that the top athletes in America are willing to participate for a full ride.
The collusive rules preventing persons going from HS directly to the pros are very un-free market. You can either make young people participate in college athletics or make them play for free, not both.What if Bob's argument were applied to like, any real job? "Why should we give the Engineers a raise but not the basket weavers? Just because there are fervent fans of iPhones and Televisions who are willing to pay for them, do they really work any harder than the people weaving baskets on the side of the road?"
It's sort of different, though, because college football is not a real job, and the free market has already demonstrated that the top athletes in America are willing to participate for a full ride.
I disagree.The collusive rules preventing persons going from HS directly to the pros are very un-free market. You can either make young people participate in college athletics or make them play for free, not both.What if Bob's argument were applied to like, any real job? "Why should we give the Engineers a raise but not the basket weavers? Just because there are fervent fans of iPhones and Televisions who are willing to pay for them, do they really work any harder than the people weaving baskets on the side of the road?"
It's sort of different, though, because college football is not a real job, and the free market has already demonstrated that the top athletes in America are willing to participate for a full ride.
Nobody is making them do anything.
Nobody is making them do anything.
Nobody is making them do anything.
I love this logic. i.e. Student Athletes shouldn't gripe about the system, because they're making a voluntary choice. Nobody is forcing them to play college football.
Welp, guess I can't complain about my tax rate or my cable bill. After all, nobody is forcing me earn income or watch tv.
I mean, obviously, I'm wealthy beyond belief :kstategrad: but you know what I mean.
No, you really shouldn't gripe about paying taxes or paying for cable tv. I mean good god, if you don't have enough money, go make more, and if you want tv, it costs money.
No, you really shouldn't gripe about paying taxes or paying for cable tv. I mean good god, if you don't have enough money, go make more, and if you want tv, it costs money.
not quite my point, but you understood my point anyway. no biggie.
pretty simple, people are justified in complaining about many things in life, even in areas where participation is voluntary.
You could make such that a HS grad could go directly to pro and nothing changes, they all would still go to college.The collusive rules preventing persons going from HS directly to the pros are very un-free market. You can either make young people participate in college athletics or make them play for free, not both.What if Bob's argument were applied to like, any real job? "Why should we give the Engineers a raise but not the basket weavers? Just because there are fervent fans of iPhones and Televisions who are willing to pay for them, do they really work any harder than the people weaving baskets on the side of the road?"
It's sort of different, though, because college football is not a real job, and the free market has already demonstrated that the top athletes in America are willing to participate for a full ride.
Well, sure, you can complain about anything, I guess. You aren't justified in complaining about paying for tv and NCAA athletes aren't justified in complaining about not getting paid for playing football in a league that they knew was for amateur athletes. There are semi-pro leagues that they can try out for if they want to get paid. There is also the CFL.
Well, sure, you can complain about anything, I guess. You aren't justified in complaining about paying for tv and NCAA athletes aren't justified in complaining about not getting paid for playing football in a league that they knew was for amateur athletes. There are semi-pro leagues that they can try out for if they want to get paid. There is also the CFL.
I don't complain about having to pay for TV. I complain about having to pay an outrageous price for the shitty product/service of Time Warner Cable. But, in this free market TV market, the only other option I have is U-Verse because Google fiber isn't in my neighborhood yet. Of course, when they are in my neighborhood, I'll bet you TWC's price and product/service will be much more competitive.
IMO, I am justified in complaining about TWC, even though I am voluntarily choosing to purchase cable/internet.
In the U.S., there is only one path to the NFL - college football. Yes, that path is voluntary. but, if the path is littered with crap, I see no issue in the traveler complaining.
Nothing is stopping the NFL from drafting players outside of college football. Bryce Brown did nothing in college ball. He could have gone to the CFL for 2 years and still been drafted. He probably would have gone higher because there wouldn't have been concerns over character issues.
Nothing is stopping the NFL from drafting players outside of college football. Bryce Brown did nothing in college ball. He could have gone to the CFL for 2 years and still been drafted. He probably would have gone higher because there wouldn't have been concerns over character issues.
Non Canadians aren't eligible for the CFL until 4 years after high school.
Nothing is stopping the NFL from drafting players outside of college football. Bryce Brown did nothing in college ball. He could have gone to the CFL for 2 years and still been drafted. He probably would have gone higher because there wouldn't have been concerns over character issues.
Non Canadians aren't eligible for the CFL until 4 years after high school.
Really? Well, I bet he could have played pro ball for that team in Salina, anyway.
Nothing is stopping the NFL from drafting players outside of college football. Bryce Brown did nothing in college ball. He could have gone to the CFL for 2 years and still been drafted. He probably would have gone higher because there wouldn't have been concerns over character issues.
Non Canadians aren't eligible for the CFL until 4 years after high school.
Really? Well, I bet he could have played pro ball for that team in Salina, anyway.
I would like to see a link to the CFL age limit. I know it was part of the Bryce Brown recruitment saga. http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/bryce-brown-to-the-cfl/
I just don't feel like the NCAA institutions have any obligation to pay players just because the NFL has shitty rules.
I just don't feel like the NCAA institutions have any obligation to pay players just because the NFL has shitty rules.
I don't think logical folks are looking at it as an obligation, but rather as an issue of economics. Rules create incentives.
I don't think Bowlsby should make more than the Sun Belt commissioner, because he works very hard as well.
head of referees talking.. the officials now have the ability to remove the 15 yard penalty after video review of a targeting call
I don't think Bowlsby should make more than the Sun Belt commissioner, because he works very hard as well.
I don't think Snyder should make more than the average faculty wage at Kansas State University. And I don't think he should complain at that. This is amateur, voluntary, student-athlete sport. Nobody forced him to be a head coach. He could head coach anywhere he wants. Same goes with all of our coaches and administrators. they should be paid like amateurs because that's all college sports is. This is NOT a billion dollar industry, professional in all respects but name.
If Kansas State doesn't want to pay Snyder more than a janitor, they don't have to. It is up to LHC Bill Snyder to decide if he wants to work at Kansas State for what the school is willing to pay. Student athletes have the option of not playing. The fact that just about everyone with the ability to play college sports chooses to do so tells me that the scholarship offered is plenty of incentive.
If Kansas State doesn't want to pay Snyder more than a janitor, they don't have to. It is up to LHC Bill Snyder to decide if he wants to work at Kansas State for what the school is willing to pay. Student athletes have the option of not playing. The fact that just about everyone with the ability to play college sports chooses to do so tells me that the scholarship offered is plenty of incentive.
It's not about incentivizing participation. It's about fairly compensating contribution.
head of referees talking.. the officials now have the ability to remove the 15 yard penalty after video review of a targeting call
robots is the next step, and im okay with that as long as they dont turn on us
It's an amateur league.
It's an amateur league.
It's not. That's the point.
It's an amateur league.
It's not. That's the point.
It is. It just happens to be successful. It really is too bad that nobody would watch minor league football. A second professional league for those kids who are good enough to earn money would be great. Unfortunately, there is just no market for that at all. College football would still be much bigger than minor league football, even if the level of competition wasn't as good. This is because it is built on the institutions and their alumni, not the athletes.
And it already begins how we'd get left out of the top 4 and hosed. With a Big 12 Championship.
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And it already begins how we'd get left out of the top 4 and hosed. With a Big 12 Championship.
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seriously. he demo'ed it right in front of our faces.
And it already begins how we'd get left out of the top 4 and hosed. With a Big 12 Championship.
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seriously. he demo'ed it right in front of our faces.
Meh, I started watching halfway through it. Whoops
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And it already begins how we'd get left out of the top 4 and hosed. With a Big 12 Championship.
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seriously. he demo'ed it right in front of our faces.
Meh, I started watching halfway through it. Whoops
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no i'm agreeing with you. in his demonstration, k-state won the big 12, and got left out of the playoff while two SEC teams were in it.
And it already begins how we'd get left out of the top 4 and hosed. With a Big 12 Championship.
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seriously. he demo'ed it right in front of our faces.
Meh, I started watching halfway through it. Whoops
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no i'm agreeing with you. in his demonstration, k-state won the big 12, and got left out of the playoff while two SEC teams were in it.
You can't be serious. That actually really pisses me off.
Yep... Hancock was able to create a "hypothetical" for each of the first three years where TWO $EC teams got in the playoffs every time...
:dubious:
The screen 'taterblast posted looks more like a "what would have happened if this system existed in 2012" than some hypothetical season.
I would burn down gainesville if that happened (not joking)
you are not wrongI would burn down gainesville if that happened (not joking)
May be for the best, regardless.
Love the fact that Bob Stoops' wife is at the same hotel for a Mary Kay convention.Bob just won't buy her that pink Cadillac?
lucky enough for us by 2017 it will probably be 8 teams in
also dvonta fields pulled a gun on his girl and then punched her. investigation is ongoing
Love the fact that Bob Stoops' wife is at the same hotel for a Mary Kay convention.Bob just won't buy her that pink Cadillac?
not gEing here i fully assume this thing to burn to the ground(4 teams) after this year because some new money school will get in and some blue blood will be left out causing an uproarlucky enough for us by 2017 it will probably be 8 teams in
also dvonta fields pulled a gun on his girl and then punched her. investigation is ongoing
They won't expand the field until after Kansas State gets screwed. The nation loves us and won't stand for it, but I wouldn't expect anything to happen until they see our sad faces.
time for snyder. coffee cup in hand.Is 810 not doing the audio for this?
been rambling about art briles for 30 minutestime for snyder. coffee cup in hand.Is 810 not doing the audio for this?
Please provide some color for those of us unable to watch/listen. TIA, buds!http://www.big12sports.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&db_oem_id=10410&catid=0
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Bil looks great. Maybe even younger than he did last year. :wizard:
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It was his juco teammate, dumbass. I wish you would have transferred with Sams.
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Sweet. Maybe he'll let him grab 1 of his conference leading 20 INT's he throws this year
It was his juco teammate, dumbass. I wish you would have transferred with Sams.
Sweet. Maybe he'll let him grab 1 of his conference leading 20 INT's he throws this year
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Oh hey, just posing for a pic with my preferred team :buh-bye:
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Oh hey, just posing for a pic with my preferred team :buh-bye:
rough ridin' hate it when i lose my cost, really grinds my gears
Jake picked that jacket up at a Frank Martin yard sale.
apparently holly rowe is wearing something really fish-netty and see-throughy
Quick question, has it been confirmed that #LIFE is not Daniel Sams himself? Dude's more bitter than an Atomic Warhead when it comes to Waters as QB.
LHCBS will be on with BITB at 5pm.
:thumbs:LHCBS will be on with BITB at 5pm.
thanks for the heads up wackster
rough ridin' hate it when i lose my cost, really grinds my gears
Better to have loved and cost, than to never have loved at all as I always say.
Also, TLBL will be on after him.:thumbs:LHCBS will be on with BITB at 5pm.
thanks for the heads up wackster
Also, TLBL will be on after him.:thumbs:LHCBS will be on with BITB at 5pm.
thanks for the heads up wackster
Bill hasn't aged since before I went to college. D00d looks good.
Some of it should definitely be in the "KU is hurting thread".
Which Big 12 school has the worst fans?
Kansas -- 40%
TCU -- 18%
Oklahoma State -- 14%
West Virginia -- 14%
Iowa State -- 7%
Texas -- 3.5%
Texas Tech -- 3.5%
I think your points would be very solid pre 1980. before endorsements, TV contracts, and commercialization of the sport. It's a different world today. Many college programs in the Big4 conferences involve more expensive facilities, more expensive coaches, and more expensive tv contracts than some NFL franchises. every person involved with this BILLION $$$ industry, from the ad execs down to the sideline chain gangs are receiving pay checks. everybody except for athletes, the very engine that drives this goliath, money printing machine. I can't reconcile these realities in my mind.
We'll never agree. it is what it is.
Waters was a complete stud with the bow tie. Too bad he didn't have Nick O'Toole's "boomstache". Woulda gave him mad props for that!
Waters was a complete stud with the bow tie. Too bad he didn't have Nick O'Toole's "boomstache". Woulda gave him mad props for that!
On Kansas State: "Their fans were still rocking at 11 in the morning and it was freezing out." ... "Somebody threw a water bottle at me when we were there, but it landed at my feet and it was unopened so I picked it up and drank it."
Has this been posted yet?
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Has this been posted yet?After stud NFL career, Finney will be a HS football coach. Look at that mug and tell me there is any other suitable job.
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Has this been posted yet?
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waters' bow tie was very KU-y
This could go in about 5 different threads
http://foxs.pt/1kRm9sG
waters' bow tie was very KU-y
shut up steffywaters' bow tie was very KU-y
This. I was not a fan of the bow tie.
This could go in about 5 different threads
http://foxs.pt/1kRm9sG
"Somebody threw a water bottle at me when we were there, but it landed at my feet and it was unopened so I picked it up and drank it."
I was standing next to the guy who threw the water bottle. When the player drank it (I think it was against OU, don't remember the team, I was pretty pak'd) we went crazy and it was one of those memories I never forgot.
This could go in about 5 different threads
http://foxs.pt/1kRm9sG
"Somebody threw a water bottle at me when we were there, but it landed at my feet and it was unopened so I picked it up and drank it."
I was standing next to the guy who threw the water bottle. When the player drank it (I think it was against OU, don't remember the team, I was pretty pak'd) we went crazy and it was one of those memories I never forgot.
had to be OU because he mentioned 11 am kickoff and it was freezing cold
Yeah, bow ties r pretty gaywaters' bow tie was very KU-y
This. I was not a fan of the bow tie.
Yeah, bow ties r pretty gaywaters' bow tie was very KU-y
This. I was not a fan of the bow tie.
apparently holly rowe is wearing something really fish-netty and see-throughy
holly is very gronkzonga'y. or maybe gronk is very holly rowe'y. either way..:dubious: I will never set you up again.
holly is very gronkzonga'y. or maybe gronk is very holly rowe'y. either way..
This could go in about 5 different threads
http://foxs.pt/1kRm9sG
Yeah, bow ties r pretty gaywaters' bow tie was very KU-y
This. I was not a fan of the bow tie.
Stoops is being a total boss on ESPNU right now
when asked about alabama not being motivated in the sugar bowl: "yeah we had the same problem. we weren't competing for the national championship, which we've done on numerous occasions, so yeah we had the same problem."
oh god espn.
:lol:
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/87023/bill-snyder-says-he-strays-from-taco-bell
If you could draft an opposing Big 12 player and put him on your team, who would it be?
Baylor QB Bryce Petty: 27%
Baylor WR Antwan Goodley: 15%
Kansas State WR Tyler Lockett: 12%
Kansas State QB Jake Waters: 12%
QuoteIf you could draft an opposing Big 12 player and put him on your team, who would it be?
Baylor QB Bryce Petty: 27%
Baylor WR Antwan Goodley: 15%
Kansas State WR Tyler Lockett: 12%
Kansas State QB Jake Waters: 12%
legitimately surprised that waters is in there
QuoteIf you could draft an opposing Big 12 player and put him on your team, who would it be?
Baylor QB Bryce Petty: 27%
Baylor WR Antwan Goodley: 15%
Kansas State WR Tyler Lockett: 12%
Kansas State QB Jake Waters: 12%
legitimately surprised that waters is in there
being friendlier with the media and letting them have these nuggets about Taco Bell and chocolate chip cookies is one of the best moves of Snyder's career
being friendlier with the media and letting them have these nuggets about Taco Bell and chocolate chip cookies is one of the best moves of Snyder's career
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/87023/bill-snyder-says-he-strays-from-taco-bell?ex_cid=espnapi_public
being friendlier with the media and letting them have these nuggets about Taco Bell and chocolate chip cookies is one of the best moves of Snyder's career
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/87023/bill-snyder-says-he-strays-from-taco-bell?ex_cid=espnapi_public
:facepalm:
:facepalm:being friendlier with the media and letting them have these nuggets about Taco Bell and chocolate chip cookies is one of the best moves of Snyder's career
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/87023/bill-snyder-says-he-strays-from-taco-bell?ex_cid=espnapi_public
:facepalm:
:facepalm:
:facepalm:being friendlier with the media and letting them have these nuggets about Taco Bell and chocolate chip cookies is one of the best moves of Snyder's career
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/87023/bill-snyder-says-he-strays-from-taco-bell?ex_cid=espnapi_public
:facepalm:
:facepalm:
:facepalm:being friendlier with the media and letting them have these nuggets about Taco Bell and chocolate chip cookies is one of the best moves of Snyder's career
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/87023/bill-snyder-says-he-strays-from-taco-bell?ex_cid=espnapi_public
:facepalm:
:facepalm:
:billdance:
holly is very gronkzonga'y. or maybe gronk is very holly rowe'y. either way..:dubious: I will never set you up again.
LHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
LHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
Not even close.
LHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
Who is the league’s most impressive coach?
Kliff Kingsbury: 24%
LHC Bill Snyder: 21%
Art Briles: 17%
Bob Stoops: 14%
How could you facepalm Grandpa Bill talking about his love of delicious tacos?
not sure if trolling or just being stupidLHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
Not even close.
not sure if trolling or just being stupidLHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
Not even close.
LHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
LHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
I let my guard down this second time and really worked on embracing and loving the man, regardless of whether or not I agree with some of his practices.
And you know what? He's just great. I hope he coaches here until he dies. Hell, I hope he dies while coaching in his own stadium.
:DI feel like Bill is having more fun this time around. I'm happy for him.
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I hope he dies
whoah
LHC Bill Snyder is the greatest thing to ever happen to/around/from the State of Kansas, and it's not really even debatable.
I let my guard down this second time and really worked on embracing and loving the man, regardless of whether or not I agree with some of his practices.
And you know what? He's just great. I hope he coaches here until he dies. Hell, I hope he dies while coaching in his own stadium.
not that i'm judging you (i kind of am), but what led you to not embracing and loving him until just lately?
I hope he dies
what the hell man
I hope he dies
what the hell man
I MEAN IT LIKE THAT!
I hope he dies
what the hell man
I MEAN IT LIKE THAT!
:sdeek:
Wow, this is just like when Lester Nygard met Malvo at the hospital. Shame on you, Panj.
:D
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whoah(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtUvswkIcAACCrd.jpg)
whoah(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtUvswkIcAACCrd.jpg)
who's the guy photobombing this pic of Charlie and Eddie Murphy?
Help me fellow gE'ers. WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN; OR IS PAN JUST MEAN! :horrorsurprise:Wow, this is just like when Lester Nygard met Malvo at the hospital. Shame on you, Panj.
I had to Google that because I had no idea what that reference meant.
Still don't really get it.
whoah(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtUvswkIcAACCrd.jpg)
who's the guy photobombing this pic of Charlie and Eddie Murphy?
I believe it's Chris Christie.
I think you said the ron first nameThanks! (fixed)
:ROFL::D
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Interesting hat choice for Bill, here
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.bleacherreport.net%2Fimg%2Fimages%2Fphotos%2F002%2F990%2F081%2F31e6f27f3c231e536b179b0091ce5916_crop_north.png%3Fw%3D759%26amp%3Bh%3D506%26amp%3Bq%3D75&hash=d35344e59de88aee5c13d21dd06556fc1ad7f418)
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11248601/kansas-state-coach-bill-snyder-offers-advice-texas-longhorns-coach-charlie-strong