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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Institutional Control on January 14, 2013, 12:53:09 PM
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So, they laid some people off in my office today. Always makes people on edge.
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when's your fiscal year end?
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when's your fiscal year end?
October
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v weird timing. company must be doing pretty bad. t's and p's.
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Man, I can't even imagine working for a company that fires people for reasons other than your individual work performance.
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Any memorable meltdowns?
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That really sucks, CFoD. I'm sorry to hear that.
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No meltdowns. The guy most likely to have melted down was actually very calm about it.
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No meltdowns. The guy most likely to have melted down was actually very calm about it.
That is because he has an AR-15 in his trunk. Hope you make it out alive.
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Man, I can't even imagine working for a company that fires people for reasons other than your individual work performance.
We were bought out by a huge company and it created a bit of duplication of some services.
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
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No meltdowns. The guy most likely to have melted down was actually very calm about it.
That is because he has an AR-15 in his trunk. Hope you make it out alive.
He rode the train today. Hopefully I'll be off work before he makes it back in his car. :)
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My company has closed up half their campuses (layoffs too), put a hiring freeze across the board, and heismaned any promotional opportunites. I'd say i'm in good hands at the moment. I feel your pain, bud.
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Did those getting walked out get a good package?
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
would def help w/ those 2 mortgages
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Did those getting walked out get a good package?
I don't know. They didn't stick around and chat.
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
Yeah, good luck finding a job when they stop extending those benefits. :lol:
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
Yeah, good luck finding a job when they stop extending those benefits. :lol:
By the time they finish extending it, I may be old enough to start collecting SS. Of course, I guess that means I'll make less in SS... :dunno: BTW, I can work side jobs for cash and/or go get my master's while on unemployment.
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
Yeah, good luck finding a job when they stop extending those benefits. :lol:
By the time they finish extending it, I may be old enough to start collecting SS. Of course, I guess that means I'll make less in SS... :dunno: BTW, I can work side jobs for cash and/or go get my master's while on unemployment.
If you get caught working side jobs while collecting unemployment, you get to pay back your entire unemployment benefit and then go to prison. Good luck with that.
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Economy is booming, no worries everybody. :dance:
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I survived something like 4 rounds of layoffs in 4 years at my last job. I remember one time they announced the layoffs and one of the guys they laid off was just out visiting another factory like he often did, and they had to like track him down to fire him. Was kind of funny.
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Man, I can't even imagine working for a company that fires people for reasons other than your individual work performance.
We were bought out by a huge company and it created a bit of duplication of some services.
Similar scenario happen at my big bro's place of employment. After limping through one year the company is rehiring the the employees. The service they thought was covered couldn't replicate what the laid off employees were doing. Classic case of management looking only at dollars and not the end result. They are paying the returning workers quite a bit more than they originally were making.
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I've survived several rounds. Things are on the up and up now, though. Have hired quite a few people.
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Got laid off 3 weeks into my first job after college along with 2299 other souls. Not going to name names though. Hawker Beechcraft
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Am actually without a job right now. I mean I'm still employed, but like they shut down my team and all our activities. Was like super forward looking type stuff. Anyway they want to keep all of us and our salaries are funded through 2013 so we're interviewing within the company. Feels weird because I come to work and have finished all my project shutdown activities so I just BBS a lot. I need something to do.
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Am actually without a job right now. I mean I'm still employed, but like they shut down my team and all our activities. Was like super forward looking type stuff. Anyway they want to keep all of us and our salaries are funded through 2013 so we're interviewing within the company. Feels weird because I come to work and have finished all my project shutdown activities so I just BBS a lot. I need something to do.
win/win/win/win/win
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Got laid off 3 weeks into my first job after college along with 2299 other souls. Not going to name names though. Hawker Beechcraft
I had a friend that did that, although he was laid off even before his start date, but well after he accepted a job offer.
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Got laid off 3 weeks into my first job after college along with 2299 other souls. Not going to name names though. Hawker Beechcraft
I had a friend that did that, although he was laid off even before his start date, but well after he accepted a job offer.
I was a part of the last group in. We had to wait in the lobby forever the first day because we later found out they were deciding whether to bring us on board or just turn us back around that first day.
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Got laid off 3 weeks into my first job after college along with 2299 other souls. Not going to name names though. Hawker Beechcraft
I had a friend that did that, although he was laid off even before his start date, but well after he accepted a job offer.
I was a part of the last group in. We had to wait in the lobby forever the first day because we later found out they were deciding whether to bring us on board or just turn us back around that first day.
Was there a long period between when you were hired and when you actually started or something? Laying somebody off immediately after hiring them seems pretty crappy.
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Got laid off 3 weeks into my first job after college along with 2299 other souls. Not going to name names though. Hawker Beechcraft
I had a friend that did that, although he was laid off even before his start date, but well after he accepted a job offer.
I was a part of the last group in. We had to wait in the lobby forever the first day because we later found out they were deciding whether to bring us on board or just turn us back around that first day.
Was there a long period between when you were hired and when you actually started or something? Laying somebody off immediately after hiring them seems pretty crappy.
a few months. This was right in the middle of the 2008 crash. Horrible, horrible timing.
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Had a buddy who graduated in 09 with a mechE degree, took a job offer in vegas early in his last semester. He had an apartment rented and everything, 1 week before he was going to drive out there they called him up and told him there was no job offer anymore...
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Had a buddy who graduated in 09 with a mechE degree, took a job offer in vegas early in his last semester. He had an apartment rented and everything, 1 week before he was going to drive out there they called him up and told him there was no job offer anymore...
I would of burned their building to the ground
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Jesus, between this thread and the how did you become a 'cats fan thread, there sure are a lot of ME grads on here.
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I was laid off from my first job back in high school. I was a lot attendant at a Chevy dealership. It wasn't that big of a deal because I would have had to quit a couple months after they laid me off due to relocation to Kansas. Kinda irritated me at first because several of my friends bought their first cars from the used car lot there solely because I recommended it, earning the dealership way more than they would have needed to pay my minimum wage, but when I got my severance check of $75 in the mail a couple weeks later it was all good.
This happened in early June of 2008, when gas prices were nearing $5/gallon where I lived in California and shortly before the GM bailouts. It was a large dealership and they laid off about 1/5 of the entire staff.
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Jesus, between this thread and the how did you become a 'cats fan thread, there sure are a lot of ME grads on here.
Kind of explains a lot.
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Jesus, between this thread and the how did you become a 'cats fan thread, there sure are a lot of ME grads on here.
Kind of explains a lot.
Lots of :kstategrad:
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lol at thinking engineers make a lot of money
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lol at thinking engineers make a lot of money
Bunch of pencil pushing poors amirite Kim? let the big dogs eat and get back in the lab, lol.
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My company has closed up half their campuses (layoffs too), put a hiring freeze across the board, and heismaned any promotional opportunites. I'd say i'm in good hands at the moment. I feel your pain, bud.
Don't forget being put on notice by the higher learning commission.
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My company has closed up half their campuses (layoffs too), put a hiring freeze across the board, and heismaned any promotional opportunites. I'd say i'm in good hands at the moment. I feel your pain, bud.
Don't forget being put on notice by the higher learning commission.
Yup.
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lol at thinking engineers make a lot of money
Wonder how many in this thread were laid off BY kim carnes?
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
It's 3/4 of what you make, right? Between that and my trust fund, I'd be fine. AND I wouldn't have to work.
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I started a new job today. There is actually a goEMAW member that works here (and posts from work...), but he doesn't know I work here, yet. I plan on messing with him.
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topekacats, watch your back. :ohno:
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
It's 3/4 of what you make, right? Between that and my trust fund, I'd be fine. AND I wouldn't have to work.
it caps out somewhere around "entry level Taco Bell employee" salary level
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
It's 3/4 of what you make, right? Between that and my trust fund, I'd be fine. AND I wouldn't have to work.
fanningBMWksuHawk sock? :horrorsurprise: :sdeek:
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I don't really have a trust fund. But I do have a pretty good size savings account, and if I got laid off I would have time and a steady, though smaller, income to figure out what I want to do. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. (Also, still not a sock.)
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guess you just threw us for a curveball when you said you want to be laid off, most sane adults hope to keep their jobs, not hard to understand
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I don't really have a trust fund. But I do have a pretty good size savings account, and if I got laid off I would have time and a steady, though smaller, income to figure out what I want to do. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. (Also, still not a sock.)
Gonna go out on a limb and say your "good size savings account" isn't that large. Also I think you don't know how accumulating money works, not judging though.
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guess you just threw us for a curveball when you said you want to be laid off, most sane adults hope to keep their jobs, not hard to understand
maybe she hates her job? that would really suck.
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I started a new job today. There is actually a goEMAW member that works here (and posts from work...), but he doesn't know I work here, yet. I plan on messing with him.
:runaway: :ohno: :runaway: :ohno:
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I don't really have a trust fund. But I do have a pretty good size savings account, and if I got laid off I would have time and a steady, though smaller, income to figure out what I want to do. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. (Also, still not a sock.)
how long will that savings account cover 2 mortgage payments?
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guess you just threw us for a curveball when you said you want to be laid off, most sane adults hope to keep their jobs, not hard to understand
maybe she hates her job? that would really suck.
I don't hate it. I'm just sick of it. Would like to do something else, but I don't know what. I can safely rule out lawyer and engineer, though. Thanks, goEMAW!
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guess you just threw us for a curveball when you said you want to be laid off, most sane adults hope to keep their jobs, not hard to understand
maybe she hates her job? that would really suck.
I don't hate it. I'm just sick of it. Would like to do something else, but I don't know what. I can safely rule out lawyer and engineer, though. Thanks, goEMAW!
what could be so bad about being a sock?
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I think she has a future in for-profit education.
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Next, I bet Willesgirl tells us all she wants to have some kids.
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Next, I bet Willesgirl tells us all she wants to have some kids.
i'm taking odds that she "hates" kids.
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Next, I bet Willesgirl tells us all she wants to have some kids.
i'm taking odds that she "hates" kids.
I don't know what quotation-mark hates quotation-mark kids even means. I like kids fine. But I'm old fashioned and think I should be married first. Meanwhile, what's this I hear about a job in for-profit education? Does it pay well? Do they have a program for paralegals?
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
It's 3/4 of what you make, right? Between that and my trust fund, I'd be fine. AND I wouldn't have to work.
The maximum you can get from unemployment is a little over $300 per week, depending on your state, and it's based on your salary and what you have have paid in to it.
I certainly wouldn't be fine with that.
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
It's 3/4 of what you make, right? Between that and my trust fund, I'd be fine. AND I wouldn't have to work.
The maximum you can get from unemployment is a little over $300 per week, depending on your state, and it's based on your salary and what you have have paid in to it.
I certainly wouldn't be fine with that.
It's over $400 in Texas.
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
It's 3/4 of what you make, right? Between that and my trust fund, I'd be fine. AND I wouldn't have to work.
The maximum you can get from unemployment is a little over $300 per week, depending on your state, and it's based on your salary and what you have have paid in to it.
I certainly wouldn't be fine with that.
It's over $400 in Texas.
Which still sucks balls and taints
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I would LOVE to get laid off. Unemployment is like eight million years right now, and they keep extending it.
You must make jack crap. Unemployment would pay a fraction of what I spend. I would be very, very unhappy on unemployment.
yeah, i think she has a poor understanding of how unemployment works. not that i'm surprised.
It's 3/4 of what you make, right? Between that and my trust fund, I'd be fine. AND I wouldn't have to work.
The maximum you can get from unemployment is a little over $300 per week, depending on your state, and it's based on your salary and what you have have paid in to it.
I certainly wouldn't be fine with that.
It's over $400 in Texas.
Which still sucks balls and taints
Agreed. Equivalent to $10/hr.
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Ya, KS is higher like TX, IIRC, but the national average is $300 ish.
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Ks tops out at like 450.
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those are pre-tax dollars fwiw
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I think she has a future in for-profit education.
lol
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I worked in the field team of a restaurant corporation a few years ago. They had this huge party/meeting in Vegas announcing their big plans for the new year which included raises and relocating almost all of us. They moved me from Chicago to Orange County. Two months later I was driving to a meeting and got a call from a dude from HR I had never talked to or even heard of. He apologized the he had to be the one to tell me, but I was being laid off. We really value your service, it's not performance based, etc. I took my severance package, turned my car around and went and got hammered. They ended up laying off 60% of the field team and 40% of the company. Apparently there was a big balloon payment on their loan and they needed cash fast. It was fun while it lasted, I guess.
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I started a new job today. There is actually a goEMAW member that works here (and posts from work...), but he doesn't know I work here, yet. I plan on messing with him.
BCBS?
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Do they have a program for paralegals?
goEMAW has at times had a program for paralegals. It's called the EMAWprentice.
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Do they have a program for paralegals?
goEMAW has at times had a program for paralegals. It's called the EMAWprentice.
Sounds like Willesgirl showed up on the scene a few months late.
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So, they told all the people that got laid off on Monday that they could come back into the office over the next two weeks to use the company resources if they wanted. One guy that was laid off has come in every day and stayed all day. I have no idea what he's doing or why he keeps coming in but it seems odd. Based on his reputation of being a habitual user of pain pills one might think he just forgot that he was let go. But he tells everyone that walks by that he was fired and that he's going to miss them.
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So, they told all the people that got laid off on Monday that they could come back into the office over the next two weeks to use the company resources if they wanted. One guy that was laid off has come in every day and stayed all day. I have no idea what he's doing or why he keeps coming in but it seems odd. Based on his reputation of being a habitual user of pain pills one might think he just forgot that he was let go. But he tells everyone that walks by that he was fired and that he's going to miss them.
He hasn't told his wife yet that he lost his job. He needs someplace to go everyday.
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So, they told all the people that got laid off on Monday that they could come back into the office over the next two weeks to use the company resources if they wanted. One guy that was laid off has come in every day and stayed all day. I have no idea what he's doing or why he keeps coming in but it seems odd. Based on his reputation of being a habitual user of pain pills one might think he just forgot that he was let go. But he tells everyone that walks by that he was fired and that he's going to miss them.
He hasn't told his wife yet that he lost his job. He needs someplace to go everyday.
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So, they told all the people that got laid off on Monday that they could come back into the office over the next two weeks to use the company resources if they wanted. One guy that was laid off has come in every day and stayed all day. I have no idea what he's doing or why he keeps coming in but it seems odd. Based on his reputation of being a habitual user of pain pills one might think he just forgot that he was let go. But he tells everyone that walks by that he was fired and that he's going to miss them.
I would invest in some body armor. Dude sounds sketchy.
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I started a new job today. There is actually a goEMAW member that works here (and posts from work...), but he doesn't know I work here, yet. I plan on messing with him.
:runaway: :ohno: :runaway: :ohno:
:peek:
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So, they told all the people that got laid off on Monday that they could come back into the office over the next two weeks to use the company resources if they wanted. One guy that was laid off has come in every day and stayed all day. I have no idea what he's doing or why he keeps coming in but it seems odd. Based on his reputation of being a habitual user of pain pills one might think he just forgot that he was let go. But he tells everyone that walks by that he was fired and that he's going to miss them.
I would invest in some body armor. Dude sounds sketchy.
Nope, Fanning'sGirl nailed it.
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So, they told all the people that got laid off on Monday that they could come back into the office over the next two weeks to use the company resources if they wanted. One guy that was laid off has come in every day and stayed all day. I have no idea what he's doing or why he keeps coming in but it seems odd. Based on his reputation of being a habitual user of pain pills one might think he just forgot that he was let go. But he tells everyone that walks by that he was fired and that he's going to miss them.
I would invest in some body armor. Dude sounds sketchy.
Nope, Fanning'sGirl nailed it.
So what do you think is going to happen once he tells his wife? :ohno:
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Had layoffs at my last company after a failed M&A, was never at risk, but found out they got like 25 weeks salary for getting laid off. Really wanted to leave so I lined up a few positions and waited and waited to see if I would get laid off. Bastards never came through for me. Had to finally say eff it and take a different job. Would have been a sweet bonus.
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Got my new job today. Pretty happy about it. :cheers: <-- to me!
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Got my new job today. Pretty happy about it. :cheers: <-- to me!
Grats, Emo.
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Congrats, EMO. :drink:
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Got my new job today. Pretty happy about it. :cheers: <-- to me!
Grats!
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Lay-ups are preferable to lay-offs.
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They're at it again. :ohno:
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
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T's and P's 8man.
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:frown:
this is supposed to be a safe industry guys.
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T's and P's 8man.
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T's & P's 8man. We let go some software/hardware engineer type folks. They were "strategic" cuts as we consolidate those functions in India/China. :frown:
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T's & P's 8man. We let go some software/hardware engineer type folks. They were "strategic" cuts as we consolidate those functions in India/China. :frown:
:ohno:
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Man, this thread sucks. I am sure you will land in a better position in no time, but for the present time...sucks donkey dicks.
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My company just laid off 6 software engineers in my department. :sdeek:
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
:frown:
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How is everyone's respective companies doing? Like are some of you out there killing it and I ought to take a look around? Haven't interviewed outside in 3 years or so.
FWIW my company (industrial, manufacturing, high-tech ish) is globally flat year over year despite budgeted double digit growth. Most of the year we've been in cost-saving mode (limited travel and leaving positions open) and now recently to cost-cutting mode (closing projects and eliminating positions).
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We just scrapped a new product (high tech) model and are staying with the current model to save capital. Sales are flat throughout our market and competitors.
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Sales are up year to year. Ahead of budget too. I work for OEM owned HVAC distribution. Industry is trailing us. We're hiring across the country in manufacturing and distribution.
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Thanks Obama. Bring Back Bill Clinton!
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:frown:
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sorry to hear that, 8man. :frown:
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you should've showed those assholes your birthday cake thread
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Overall company is up YoY and ahead of budget. Same for division. My segment is struggling in one product line but outpacing the market in the other two.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Eurocat ended up being eurocat from a similar situation I think. Hopefully that happens to 8man too.
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Sales are up year to year. Ahead of budget too. I work for OEM owned HVAC distribution. Industry is trailing us. We're hiring across the country in manufacturing and distribution.
Global warming, or cooling. You're in the right industry.
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Sales are up year to year. Ahead of budget too. I work for OEM owned HVAC distribution. Industry is trailing us. We're hiring across the country in manufacturing and distribution.
Global warming, or cooling. You're in the right industry.
Yep. Anything except mild.
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Eurocat ended up being eurocat from a similar situation I think. Hopefully that happens to 8man too.
Considering going to Wales or Australia for about 6 months in the spring if I don't find find career worthy employment in the next month or so
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wish the company i work for would lay some people off. instead, the dumbasses keep hiring people.
company is prolly in decent shape through 2020, but who knows?
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
B/V and B/M are hiring like crazy right now in KC. I'm a mechanical engineer at another firm and both have contacted me about coming over. Worth a shot right?
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
B/V and B/M are hiring like crazy right now in KC. I'm a mechanical engineer at another firm and both have contacted me about coming over. Worth a shot right?
:cheers: I know people at both too. Tomorrow is application day...
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
B/V and B/M are hiring like crazy right now in KC. I'm a mechanical engineer at another firm and both have contacted me about coming over. Worth a shot right?
:cheers: I know people at both too. Tomorrow is application day...
Best of luck man! :thumbsup:
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8man, would you consider a different industry? The big consulting firms hire loads of engineers and just train them to do whatever (e.g. accounting software, programming, etc).
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8man, would you consider a different industry? The big consulting firms hire loads of engineers and just train them to do whatever (e.g. accounting software, programming, etc).
Certainly
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full-time blogger?
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A smart company would let the MOST tenured engineer go.
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A smart company would let the MOST tenured engineer go.
This x 10000000
Offer early retirement and invest in new generation that you don't have to pay as much.
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it's a blessing in disguise. you'll learn from this shitty experience and be better off down the road, just gotta get through it.
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we did about $12-13mil in volume last year and this. About $10mil of that is me this year, about 7-8mil last. So, I feel okay.
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I was laid off 10 months after graduating (last one hired first one fired bullshit). Best thing that ever happened to me. As Clams said, blessing in disguise.
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8mp will end up in a great situ. Good people, good things. Their loss.
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Places for 8man to look into employment that he may not have considered (also, use KSU's career services office...places are hiring NOW!)
Specifically state you are a recent engineering grad who was a victim of wholesale, across the board "layoffs," and you want to go into "consulting"
Accenture
Delloite Consulting
EY Cap Gemini
IBM Consulting
Power Plan (out of Atlanta)
PWC
KPMG
Grant Thornton
Hitachi Consulting
RSM Consulting
Any consulting firm that specializes in SAP implementations
Any consulting firm that specializes in JD Edwards implementations (or EBS or PeopleSoft for that matter).
Ceder Crest Stone, consulting and hosted services
ERP Suites
Cerner's Consulting (pay like crap to start, but you will make BANK later)
GE Medical Systems Consulting (same story as Cerner)
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Thanks for the kind words friends. As long as the job search goes okay, I'm not too bummed. Pay was decent, people were good, but the work wasn't that great and the business environment want particularly enjoyable. Writing was sort of on the wall. Our group thought we were fairly safe, but hadn't had much to do for a month or so (:shakesfist: shifty sales people). Last one in, first one out...
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
B/V and B/M are hiring like crazy right now in KC. I'm a mechanical engineer at another firm and both have contacted me about coming over. Worth a shot right?
I have a relative who just retired from BV after 39 years so there is an open spot in Gov/power
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Places for 8man to look into employment that he may not have considered (also, use KSU's career services office...places are hiring NOW!)
Specifically state you are a recent engineering grad who was a victim of wholesale, across the board "layoffs," and you want to go into "consulting"
Accenture
Delloite Consulting
EY Cap Gemini
IBM Consulting
Power Plan (out of Atlanta)
PWC
KPMG
Grant Thornton
Hitachi Consulting
RSM Consulting
Any consulting firm that specializes in SAP implementations
Any consulting firm that specializes in JD Edwards implementations (or EBS or PeopleSoft for that matter).
Ceder Crest Stone, consulting and hosted services
ERP Suites
Cerner's Consulting (pay like crap to start, but you will make BANK later)
GE Medical Systems Consulting (same story as Cerner)
Pete just planted a few seeds, I can't wait to see it bloom.
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Places for 8man to look into employment that he may not have considered (also, use KSU's career services office...places are hiring NOW!)
Specifically state you are a recent engineering grad who was a victim of wholesale, across the board "layoffs," and you want to go into "consulting"
Accenture
Delloite Consulting
EY Cap Gemini
IBM Consulting
Power Plan (out of Atlanta)
PWC
KPMG
Grant Thornton
Hitachi Consulting
RSM Consulting
Any consulting firm that specializes in SAP implementations
Any consulting firm that specializes in JD Edwards implementations (or EBS or PeopleSoft for that matter).
Ceder Crest Stone, consulting and hosted services
ERP Suites
Cerner's Consulting (pay like crap to start, but you will make BANK later)
GE Medical Systems Consulting (same story as Cerner)
:love: :cheers: thanks Pete
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Where do you live now and would you want to move?
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I am always fully on the "blame sales" train. A good product does NOT sell itself.
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Eurocat ended up being eurocat from a similar situation I think. Hopefully that happens to 8man too.
Yep. Got laid off from Hawker Beechcraft after 3 weeks on the job. Found current job shortly after.
Today is my last day on the job as i'm taking a new gig up in Lawrence
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we did about $12-13mil in volume last year and this. About $10mil of that is me this year, about 7-8mil last. So, I feel okay.
#Mikeyis4dcatsbrag?
Pretty small operation with lots of support people needed and you are just the sales guy?
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
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we did about $12-13mil in volume last year and this. About $10mil of that is me this year, about 7-8mil last. So, I feel okay.
#Mikeyis4dcatsbrag?
Pretty small operation with lots of support people needed and you are just the sales guy?
Building contractor, I estimate and manage commercial construction. There is one other estimator/PM on the building side and one doing industrial work. I guess looking back at it, the industrial guy's had an okay year, so this year is probably $13-14 mil, of which I am 10. I have a field crew of 8 doing building work, the industrial side ranges from a half dozen to 20+ in good years. We had 4 to 6 industrial guys in China last year and early this year building a tire plant.
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
Crap pot = ??
Canadian friend is curious.
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
Crap pot = ??
Canadian friend is curious.
Over 200.
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
Crap pot = ??
Canadian friend is curious.
Over 200.
that is a crap pot. what type of engineer was he? industrial?
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
Crap pot = ??
Canadian friend is curious.
Over 200.
that is a crap pot. what type of engineer was he? industrial?
I always think of "crap ton" as being 300-400. So "crap pot" being 200-300 would seem about right. I will let my canadian friend know.
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
Crap pot = ??
Canadian friend is curious.
Over 200.
that is a crap pot. what type of engineer was he? industrial?
Prolly, most IEs (from K-State at least) go into consulting gigs and make bank
Are you on LinkedIn? I get job offers on there monthly, and don't even go looking for them
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
Crap pot = ??
Canadian friend is curious.
Over 200.
that is a crap pot. what type of engineer was he? industrial?
Prolly, most IEs (from K-State at least) go into consulting gigs and make bank
Are you on LinkedIn? I get job offers on there monthly, and don't even go looking for them
you live in Topeka. you should prolly go looking.
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well that was mean SD :blank:
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well that was mean SD :blank:
I'm trying to help here bad person!
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well that was mean SD :blank:
yeah, we can ALL live in the cultural mecca of America, Omaha.
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well that was mean SD :blank:
yeah, we can ALL live in the cultural mecca of America, Omaha.
Boom goes the dynamite!
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well that was mean SD :blank:
yeah, we can ALL live in the cultural mecca of America, Omaha.
interestingly, raquetcat has lived in both
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has anyone ever thought to make fun of steve dave for something other than living in omaha?
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has anyone ever thought to make fun of steve dave for something other than living in omaha?
Yea, but I can never come up with anything.
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has anyone ever thought to make fun of steve dave for something other than living in omaha?
I'm an awful speller
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has anyone ever thought to make fun of steve dave for something other than living in omaha?
frequent BWW diner
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has anyone ever thought to make fun of steve dave for something other than living in omaha?
frequent BWW diner
interestingly, have eaten at an omaha bww with raquetcat
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has anyone ever thought to make fun of steve dave for something other than living in omaha?
I've mentioned the puka shell necklace a couple of times.
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fat face master thread!
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has anyone ever thought to make fun of steve dave for something other than living in omaha?
frequent BWW diner
interestingly, have eaten at an omaha bww with raquetcat
We met by big game hunter and the rest is history.
We've covered this SD: Omaha was crappy job, but good city, while Topeka is good job, but crappy city, and don't even start with the "you should have found a different job in Omaha" schtick
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FWIW a buddy at my company (engineer) left and went to Deloitte and is making an absolute crap pot of money. He's into the SAP stuff.
Crap pot = ??
Canadian friend is curious.
Over 200.
that is a crap pot. what type of engineer was he? industrial?
I believe he has a software engineering degree and a mechanical engineering degree, maybe a master's in one of them. Took a job internally doing SAP stuff and realized he could make much more as a consultant. We've had a couple guys do that actually.
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8man, I may have a job for you. How well can you spot a fake ID?
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8man, I may have a job for you. How well can you spot a fake ID?
I'm as good at spotting fake IDs as TLBL is at being adorable
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Anyone hearing any Sprint gossip?
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Anyone hearing any Sprint gossip?
People still work there?
In the late 90's/Early 2000's it seemed like everyone's dad worked there...not so much anymore.
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Anyone hearing any Sprint gossip?
People still work there?
In the late 90's/Early 2000's it seemed like everyone's dad worked there...not so much anymore.
now its cerner
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you guys are both right, although i feel like everyone who works at cerner makes way more money than all those old sprint dads
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Feels like the Sprint people now are making just as much and not working very hard for it.
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Feels like the Sprint people now are making just as much and not working very hard for it.
idk man, the CEO can't even afford a barber
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fb1%2FDan_hesse_2011_%28cropped%29.jpg%2F170px-Dan_hesse_2011_%28cropped%29.jpg&hash=6b0c21879e229f2614956bcd58b25bb9b8358d70)
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Feels like the Sprint people now are making just as much and not working very hard for it.
idk man, the CEO can't even afford a barber
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fb1%2FDan_hesse_2011_%28cropped%29.jpg%2F170px-Dan_hesse_2011_%28cropped%29.jpg&hash=6b0c21879e229f2614956bcd58b25bb9b8358d70)
FWIW I heard he loves the "growing your hair out" thread.
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
Not yet. :frown: Was really lazy about looking for a job while I still had severance pay and then the holidays. Actually trying to find something now.
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Good luck, bud!
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
Not yet. :frown: Was really lazy about looking for a job while I still had severance pay and then the holidays. Actually trying to find something now.
Well, that's a real pisser. Hope things start to pop.
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
Not yet. :frown: Was really lazy about looking for a job while I still had severance pay and then the holidays. Actually trying to find something now.
Do you have any CFD experience?
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
Not yet. :frown: Was really lazy about looking for a job while I still had severance pay and then the holidays. Actually trying to find something now.
Do you have any CFD experience?
does computing my fluid dynamics grade to be passing count as experience? if so, yes, he does.
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
Not yet. :frown: Was really lazy about looking for a job while I still had severance pay and then the holidays. Actually trying to find something now.
Do you have any CFD experience?
does computing my fluid dynamics grade to be passing count as experience? if so, yes, he does.
Does he want to work in Wichita?
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
Not yet. :frown: Was really lazy about looking for a job while I still had severance pay and then the holidays. Actually trying to find something now.
Do you have any CFD experience?
does computing my fluid dynamics grade to be passing count as experience? if so, yes, he does.
Does he want to work in Wichita?
I don't have too much CFD experience especially in terms of computer modeling. Wichita wouldn't be my first choice (is it anyone's?) but I'd be open to it.
TTHoTUC was actually decent at fluids, just a dumbass about remembering to turn in the take home part of the exam.
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Fluids was the effing worst class I ever took (twice)
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Did not know mocat was engineer. :sdeek:
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Did not know mocat was engineer. :sdeek:
well he's not a lawyer so what did you expect
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I thought he was finance/acount-y or something.
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Did not know mocat was engineer. :sdeek:
moc@ is like the biggest engineer in kc metro
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Did not know mocat was engineer. :sdeek:
was it the exceptional math skills that threw you off?
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We need an engineering thread.
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:frown: A bunch at my company today. The shortest tenured in a group of five didn't have much of a chance.
Anyone hiring mechanical engineers?
Did you bounce back?
Not yet. :frown: Was really lazy about looking for a job while I still had severance pay and then the holidays. Actually trying to find something now.
Do you have any CFD experience?
does computing my fluid dynamics grade to be passing count as experience? if so, yes, he does.
Does he want to work in Wichita?
I don't have too much CFD experience especially in terms of computer modeling. Wichita wouldn't be my first choice (is it anyone's?) but I'd be open to it.
TTHoTUC was actually decent at fluids, just a dumbass about remembering to turn in the take home part of the exam.
well when the take home part of the exam was based on the homework I didn't do or turn in it made it pretty hard. like, you honestly expect me to turn in my homework and show up for exams? gmafb.
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We need an engineering thread.
yeah, I've always been curious about what the most boring thread in history would look like.
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We need an engineering thread.
yeah, I've always been curious about what the most boring thread in history would look like.
I agree that the modern world and the future are pretty boring.
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8mp why don't you just hop on the bandwagon already?
Cerner Corp. executives said Friday they expect to have the first building completed and 1,500 people working at the site of their new $4.3 billion Three Trails office development in about 30 months.
:sdeek:
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:Yuck: So blessed to have a job right now.
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weird bump
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weird bump
Well, my work obviously went through some today.
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weird bump
Well, my work obviously went through some today.
Glad you made it through the layoffs!
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:thumbs:
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:cheers:
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If I were you, I'd start interviewing elsewhere, fanning. You are better than that job, anyway.
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probably going to be more layoffs for KC folk when russell stovers gets sold too :frown:
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In all honesty getting laid off probably would have been a good thing for wacky.
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In all honesty getting laid off probably would have been a good thing for wacky.
Maybe. At least now he can still get paid while he finds something better. I just hope that this was a wake up call for him and he decides to go out and do something meaningful.
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severance package :kstategrad:
unemployment check :kstategrad:
infinity free time :kstategrad:
getting laid off sounds like the best thing ever
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In all honesty getting laid off probably would have been a good thing for wacky.
Maybe. At least now he can still get paid while he finds something better. I just hope that this was a wake up call for him and he decides to go out and do something meaningful.
Layoffs usually are accompanied with a severance. And many people have been telling him to look for a new job for months, and wacky is the type that sometimes needs a kick in the pants.
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severance package :kstategrad:
unemployment check :kstategrad:
infinity free time :kstategrad:
getting laid off sounds like the best thing ever
I really doubt a for-profit school is going to offer much of a severance package to their phone trolls, though.
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mich is 100% correct here
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You don't get a severance package when they tap you on the shoulder and take your headset.
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I'll be ok you guys. I'll start looking soon. I'm just so comfy here, cause i've done it for awhile. Feels natural. Plus, if I want to get my Doctorate, they'll pay for it.
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You don't get a severance package when they tap you on the shoulder and take your headset.
pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft
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wacky is the type that sometimes needs a kick in the pants.
welp
I'll be ok you guys. I'll start looking soon. I'm just so comfy here, cause i've done it for awhile. Feels natural. Plus, if I want to get my Doctorate, they'll pay for it.
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In all honesty getting laid off probably would have been a good thing for wacky.
do you want his BP to go through the roof? :frown:
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I would go for the doctorate, WC. I mean, Dr. Kickball sounds like a guy I want to hang out with.
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I would go for the doctorate, WC. I mean, Dr. Kickball sounds like a guy I want to hang out with.
:eek:
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I'll be ok you guys. I'll start looking soon. I'm just so comfy here, cause i've done it for awhile. Feels natural. Plus, if I want to get my Doctorate, they'll pay for it.
You know that I am OG #teamwacky, but dammit read the tea leaves. You are not going to last long enough to get a Doctorate at that shithole. What if the axe falls while you are in the middle of the program? Then where will you be, HUH? WHERE WILL YOU BE!!!
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The MBA has obviously paid off so why not
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The MBA has obviously paid off so why not
I'm happy, doing well, and will be running a sporting league on the side. Yes, I would say it has. What do you do, Carnes? Besides being a pain in the ass?
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Dr's diagnosis: Pain in the Ass.
Cure? Less Kim, apparently.
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The MBA has obviously paid off so why not
I'm happy, doing well, and will be running a sporting league on the side. Yes, I would say it has. What do you do, Carnes? Besides being a pain in the ass?
we aready know kim was forced to layoff all his employees because obama got reelected :frown:
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kickballleaguebrag
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The MBA has obviously paid off so why not
I'm happy, doing well, and will be running a sporting league on the side. Yes, I would say it has. What do you do, Carnes? Besides being a pain in the ass?
someone change name to kickballcommishcat
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how does getting your doctorate benefit your career, wacky?
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how does getting your doctorate benefit your career, wacky?
I bet it won't hurt his career... knowledge is power.
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how does getting your doctorate benefit your career, wacky?
I bet it won't hurt his career... knowledge is power.
I'm having a discussion with my friend, you dunce.
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I think Fanning would have a much better career with a doctorate than he will ever have calling people and asking if they want to go into debt to attend some shitty school. Maybe he could teach journalism at a university. :dunno:
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how does getting your doctorate benefit your career, wacky?
I bet it won't hurt his career... knowledge is power.
I'm having a discussion with my friend, you dunce.
I would love to teach. Maybe retire in Manhattan and teach there. My favorite professor was Smethers of the Jounalism school. I just figure if they can pay for my doctorate, why not? It couldn't hurt. I'm sure it's a lot of work tho.
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Doctorate in what Wacky? Just curious
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If Wacky goes for the PhD I will hood him myself. Blumperz serves the people.
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Doctorate in what Wacky? Just curious
Haven't figured that out yet. It would be dumb to go for business, right?
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welcome back, Blump!
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Is your employer going to pay for your Ph.D. at the school of your choice, or do you have to get it from them?
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Doctorate in what Wacky? Just curious
Haven't figured that out yet. It would be dumb to do for business, right?
Business professors at universities cash checks (large ones) compared to the average faculty members. It could be a six figure pay check. If you are interested in the business forecasting model side of things, wow, you would be highly marketable to many different employers. The PhD goes a long way.
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Is your employer going to pay for your Ph.D. at the school of your choice, or do you have to get it from them?
yes, excellent question
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Is your employer going to pay for your Ph.D. at the school of your choice, or do you have to get it from them?
Not sure. It wouldn't be here. It would be Argosy or something in the area.
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Doctorate in what Wacky? Just curious
Haven't figured that out yet. It would be dumb to do for business, right?
Business professors at universities cash checks (large ones) compared to the average faculty members. It could be a six figure pay check. If you are interested in the business forecasting model side of things, wow, you would be highly marketable to many different employers. The PhD goes a long way.
Thanks dude!
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Is your employer going to pay for your Ph.D. at the school of your choice, or do you have to get it from them?
Not sure. It wouldn't be here. It would be Argosy or something in the area.
Wacks, that is a casino.
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:lol:
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@CNS lol. I knew that was coming. They will pay for other locations. I'm just shooting the crap here. I don't know if I want another 2 and a half years of school. It would be nice to be the only "Dr." in the Fanning family tho. It would be more of a "Ha. I told you fuckers!" from being the youngest child. My bro was the talk of the town being a D1 athlete.
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What kind of GPA did you get as an undergrad? Have you taken the GRE?
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Yeah really rub it in their fat rough ridin' faces.
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DO IT!!!
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Wait!
How long do you have to work there after completing the Dr in order for it to be free?
I mean, unless you want to run that place, keep that in mind.
My old gig wanted me for 5yrs after completing an MBA. Nope!
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What kind of GPA did you get as an undergrad? Have you taken the GRE?
3.5 in undergrad and a 3.7 in my MBA. No to the GRE.
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I have been working with several Industrial/Organizational psychologists on designing new surveys for their HR people. They threw an under-the-table job offer my way and were talking salaries for people that know how to design HR surveys and analyze data...and I was blown away with the numbers they were throwing out. It wasn't for me, but I can tell you that just having the PhD will open many doors to possibilities you didn't know existed. Plus, you are a smart cat so it may result in a few more rando BJs from some KU skank rats...which is always a plus.
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Wait!
How long do you have to work there after completing the Dr in order for it to be free?
I mean, unless you want to run that place, keep that in mind.
My old gig wanted me for 5yrs after completing an MBA. Nope!
There's no contract like that. There wasn't at UOP either. A girl who works here just became an RN through us and she's about to leave.
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Yeah really rub it in their fat rough ridin' faces.
I know you're rough ridin' with me, but I will! :shakesfist: :cheers:
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get it and bounce.
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I have been working with several Industrial/Organizational psychologists on designing new surveys for their HR people. They threw an under-the-table job offer my way and were talking salaries for people that know how to design HR surveys and analyze data...and I was blown away with the numbers they were throwing out. It wasn't for me, but I can tell you that just having the PhD will open many doors to possibilities you didn't know existed. Plus, you are a smart cat so it may result in a few more rando BJs from some KU skank rats...which is always a plus.
:love:
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What kind of GPA did you get as an undergrad? Have you taken the GRE?
3.5 in undergrad and a 3.7 in my MBA. No to the GRE.
You should probably take the GRE. You need to get your Ph.D. from a real honest-to-god university if you want the kind of opportunities that Blumpkin is talking about.
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Also, most business schools do not require the GRE for admission. You may not even have to take that BS test.
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blumpkin :facepalm:
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so many dumb fucks in this thread
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I am 100% behind the dr wacky plan. Wow, just talking about it is amazing.
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I am 100% behind the dr wacky plan. Wow, just talking about it is amazing.
:thumbs:
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Seriously tho fanning. U should do it. You're what, 30? And you've accomplished so much, no reason not to.
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I mean if the MBA paid off with a recruiting position at brown mackie college maybe a PhD will pay off with an entry level position at Cerner (probably not though)
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Carnes, I love you! Happy Friday! :cheers:
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i remember when lloyd letcher was working on his econ phd at ksu cats calvin. stud expressway, speed limit: infinity.
dr wacky, you need to put your Journey's Greatest Hits tape into your walkman and just go for it.
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#mixingtracks #doingwork #callmetommorrowgebro :thumbs:
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i remember when lloyd letcher was working on his econ phd at ksu cats calvin. stud expressway, speed limit: infinity.
dr wacky, you need to put your Journey's Greatest Hits tape into your walkman and just go for it.
Holy crap. A Lloyd Letcher mention! I love Lloyd. Walking textbook but a good soul. I had a long long conversation with him after class one day. It was touching talking about the 60s and 70s, and race,war, and politics.
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wayne nafzinger's nickname in the mid 00's was wayne sexzinger according to a canadian guy who i am
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wayne nafzinger's nickname in the mid 00's was wayne sexzinger according to a canadian guy who i am
i acknowledge this post.
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wayne nafzinger's nickname in the mid 00's was wayne sexzinger according to a canadian guy who i am
i acknowledge this post.
What an honor :love:
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:users: :ohno: :pray:
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:users: :ohno: :pray:
Good luck. Would this be a shock?
Gonna win 'em all!
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How much severance?
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:users: :ohno: :pray:
Good luck. Would this be a shock?
Gonna win 'em all!
Would what be a shock?
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How much severance?
It would be negotiable for me if it came to that. Probably better than most places but not awesome.
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Cut your hair and when you boss comes by asking where Emo went, keep your eyes down and mumble "don't know".
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eff I am cutting it on Wednesday but this crap is going down tomorrow. :facepalm:
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Your negotiation position can't be too good if you're getting laid off
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Sounds like you have 24 hours to blow the whistle on somebody.
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Tell people you have another big doctor's appointment this afternoon. Shave off all your hair and eyebrows before work tomorrow.
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Also, how's your resume? Did you sniff some smoke and have it out there already?
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do you have enough bullets stored up to just go off-grid?
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Your negotiation position can't be too good if you're getting laid off
It would be good enough to get a better than average severance.
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I don't even know what an average severance is. 3 months pay?
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Should be two weeks for every year you were there.
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I honestly have no idea why companies give severance. They don't have to, do they?
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I don't even know what an average severance is. 3 months pay?
ours is based on a formula that uses years of service and position. both equate to higher amounts obviously. I'd currently get like 9 months if I got laid off. I don't know if that's how everyone else does it though. ours is definitely not "negotiable" which I don't really understand.
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I honestly have no idea why companies give severance. They don't have to, do they?
I think they probably do it so that the employees that don't get laid off can see that there is at least some safety net if they stick around. It's the only reason I can think of, really. The "am I next?" feeling among the employees probably makes some of them apply elsewhere.
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If they are laying you off, why would they negotiate?
Like, you are going to say "If you don't give me more severance I will tell all your company secrets to this other company over here." ?
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I am no HRcat but maybe paying severance is cheaper than having ex-employees filling for unemployment
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If they are laying you off, why would they negotiate?
Like, you are going to say "If you don't give me more severance I will tell all your company secrets to this other company over here." ?
That's one reason for sure, like if they ask you to sign a release. Of course there are other reasons. Terms of the severance is, at minimum, negotiable.
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companies give severance for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is to build good will and protect themselves against lawsuits
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I am no HRcat but maybe paying severance is cheaper than having ex-employees filling for unemployment
employees are still going to file for unemployment after severance runs out
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If they are laying you off, why would they negotiate?
Like, you are going to say "If you don't give me more severance I will tell all your company secrets to this other company over here." ?
That's one reason for sure, like if they ask you to sign a release. Of course there are other reasons. Terms of the severance is, at minimum, negotiable.
it also usually prevents you from signing up for unemployment during the period covered by the severance.
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I am no HRcat but maybe paying severance is cheaper than having ex-employees filling for unemployment
employees are still going to file for unemployment after severance runs out
and it's not cheaper than paying unemployment
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Should be two weeks for every year you were there.
That is really low...
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Should be two weeks for every year you were there.
That is really low...
I thought the same.
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A google search says that two weeks per year is typical.
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Don't those assholes know you just had a mini emo :curse: :shakesfist:
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Sounds like you have 24 hours to blow the whistle on somebody.
Slip and fall in the can.
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Lester negotiated a hell of a severance package for himself in American Beauty. I would watch that tonight after the Cats game and take notes.
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also fight club :th_twocents:
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You typically have to sign a non-disclosure and waive nearly all rights to legal action in order to receive your check. Basically, shut up, take the check, and walk away. Otherwise, you get nothing. It's a compromise for both parties.
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start grabbing office supplies
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You typically have to sign a non-disclosure and waive nearly all rights to legal action in order to receive your check. Basically, shut up, take the check, and walk away. Otherwise, you get nothing. It's a compromise for both parties.
That is incorrect.
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so, like, are you just sitting at work right now and it's super rough ridin' awkward,, or have you already gotten the news?
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Emo, you can either go out like a man with your dignity intact and your head held high, or you can go out in a Costanza-esque blaze of incompetence, dragging the World Series trophy behind your car in the parking lot.
Choose wisely.
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He might get to keep his job, guys.
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:users: :ohno: :pray:
Good luck. Would this be a shock?
Gonna win 'em all!
Would what be a shock?
I thought you have mentioned that your company has been struggling. I am asking if you thought your area was safe or not.
Gonna win 'em all!
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If they take your phone and computer and you can't bbs, go to the library and let us know how it went down.
Gonna win 'em all!
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If you do get laid off, make sure you tell them that they will rue this day.
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If you do get laid off, make sure you tell them that they will rue this day.
this is really sound advice
Gonna win 'em all!
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Today at 09:57:39 AM
hope they didn't make their rounds at 10am.
:frown:
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:impatient:
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Once you get canned take your severance pay and use it to start an internet poker career. Once time on that runs out, then use your unemployment for the same thing. You'll probably make millions, so you won't even really need the unemployment. Only downside is that you'll have to move somewhere foreign, but you like living all over the place. The world is your oyster!
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Also this: You'll be everyone's best friend in the neighborhood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leLlXorIQSc
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dont get high on your own supply
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so are we all in agreement that they abducted Emo Emaw and stole his kidneys?
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Emo, if today didn't go as you had hoped, remember that we kid because we love. Wacky has some "Can't Miss" opportunities that you can PM him about.
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Yes, truly sorry if you got laid off. That sucks.
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Wife's company laid off 40% of the company today. Seriously? The day before Thanksgiving?
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:frown: Is she safe?
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If you have to lay off 40% of your employees you should probably just file for bankruptcy now.
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How does that even happen
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:frown: Is she safe?
Nope. She got cut.
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If you have to lay off 40% of your employees you should probably just file for bankruptcy now.
Yeah, the company is a disaster. There's no way they make it through 2016. If I'm the other employees staying I start looking for jobs now.
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Sorry to hear. :(
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Sorry to hear. :(
Thanks wacks.
She's been sort of casually searching for jobs for a few weeks. Has a few interviews lined up for next week already.
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That's good to hear!
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sorry to hear kcfd. you should let wacky look her resume over.
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Well it was pretty much this time last year I got laid off.
My advice: hit the crap hard right now. Many jobs will be filled in January, like a good portion of the year's jobs. Probably already posted. The others throughout the year will be the ones that came open because of people who took those January jobs. Carousel type stuff. Also, the best jobs don't ever get posted. She should use her network right now, and hopefully she has been, so that when a manager is submitting the job req for approval he/she already knows they are going to hire your wife.
Severances absolutely are negotiable. Even if the amount stays the same there is good reason to try to modify the wording of the settlement agreement. For example, she will probably be asked to sign something saying she won't sue the company. There should be some consideration tied to that part of the agreement, or maybe even two separate agreements. So one is a severance and one is a settlement. The settlement portion doesn't affect unemployment eligibility, so get as much in there as you can. Then she can still draw unemployment.
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Well it was pretty much this time last year I got laid off.
My advice: hit the crap hard right now. Many jobs will be filled in January, like a good portion of the year's jobs. Probably already posted. The others throughout the year will be the ones that came open because of people who took those January jobs. Carousel type stuff. Also, the best jobs don't ever get posted. She should use her network right now, and hopefully she has been, so that when a manager is submitting the job req for approval he/she already knows they are going to hire your wife.
Severances absolutely are negotiable. Even if the amount stays the same there is good reason to try to modify the wording of the settlement agreement. For example, she will probably be asked to sign something saying she won't sue the company. There should be some consideration tied to that part of the agreement, or maybe even two separate agreements. So one is a severance and one is a settlement. The settlement portion doesn't affect unemployment eligibility, so get as much in there as you can. Then she can still draw unemployment.
Thanks man.
We had already hired a person that hooks you up for interviews... Head hunter? I don't know what they're called since I've never worked in the corporate world. She's done a good job so far it seems.
Luckily my wife is a great networker, unlike me. I really don't think it will be hard for her to find a job. She's very qualified, MBA & almost a decade of experience in her field.
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what kind of work does she do?
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what kind of work does she do?
Marketing/ client management
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Well it was pretty much this time last year I got laid off.
My advice: hit the crap hard right now. Many jobs will be filled in January, like a good portion of the year's jobs. Probably already posted. The others throughout the year will be the ones that came open because of people who took those January jobs. Carousel type stuff. Also, the best jobs don't ever get posted. She should use her network right now, and hopefully she has been, so that when a manager is submitting the job req for approval he/she already knows they are going to hire your wife.
Severances absolutely are negotiable. Even if the amount stays the same there is good reason to try to modify the wording of the settlement agreement. For example, she will probably be asked to sign something saying she won't sue the company. There should be some consideration tied to that part of the agreement, or maybe even two separate agreements. So one is a severance and one is a settlement. The settlement portion doesn't affect unemployment eligibility, so get as much in there as you can. Then she can still draw unemployment.
Thanks man.
We had already hired a person that hooks you up for interviews... Head hunter? I don't know what they're called since I've never worked in the corporate world. She's done a good job so far it seems.
Luckily my wife is a great networker, unlike me. I really don't think it will be hard for her to find a job. She's very qualified, MBA & almost a decade of experience in her field.
she hired a headhunter? As in gave them money?
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also I have no idea what client manager does. Hopefully there's lots of those jobs in the KC area.
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Well it was pretty much this time last year I got laid off.
My advice: hit the crap hard right now. Many jobs will be filled in January, like a good portion of the year's jobs. Probably already posted. The others throughout the year will be the ones that came open because of people who took those January jobs. Carousel type stuff. Also, the best jobs don't ever get posted. She should use her network right now, and hopefully she has been, so that when a manager is submitting the job req for approval he/she already knows they are going to hire your wife.
Severances absolutely are negotiable. Even if the amount stays the same there is good reason to try to modify the wording of the settlement agreement. For example, she will probably be asked to sign something saying she won't sue the company. There should be some consideration tied to that part of the agreement, or maybe even two separate agreements. So one is a severance and one is a settlement. The settlement portion doesn't affect unemployment eligibility, so get as much in there as you can. Then she can still draw unemployment.
Thanks man.
We had already hired a person that hooks you up for interviews... Head hunter? I don't know what they're called since I've never worked in the corporate world. She's done a good job so far it seems.
Luckily my wife is a great networker, unlike me. I really don't think it will be hard for her to find a job. She's very qualified, MBA & almost a decade of experience in her field.
she hired a headhunter? As in gave them money?
That seemed odd to me too but at least two of the more executive types caught in my layoff did the same thing. Both are now CEO's so I guess it worked for them.
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Well it was pretty much this time last year I got laid off.
My advice: hit the crap hard right now. Many jobs will be filled in January, like a good portion of the year's jobs. Probably already posted. The others throughout the year will be the ones that came open because of people who took those January jobs. Carousel type stuff. Also, the best jobs don't ever get posted. She should use her network right now, and hopefully she has been, so that when a manager is submitting the job req for approval he/she already knows they are going to hire your wife.
Severances absolutely are negotiable. Even if the amount stays the same there is good reason to try to modify the wording of the settlement agreement. For example, she will probably be asked to sign something saying she won't sue the company. There should be some consideration tied to that part of the agreement, or maybe even two separate agreements. So one is a severance and one is a settlement. The settlement portion doesn't affect unemployment eligibility, so get as much in there as you can. Then she can still draw unemployment.
Thanks man.
We had already hired a person that hooks you up for interviews... Head hunter? I don't know what they're called since I've never worked in the corporate world. She's done a good job so far it seems.
Luckily my wife is a great networker, unlike me. I really don't think it will be hard for her to find a job. She's very qualified, MBA & almost a decade of experience in her field.
she hired a headhunter? As in gave them money?
It's based on the salary of the job she lands.
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also I have no idea what client manager does. Hopefully there's lots of those jobs in the KC area.
From what I understand it's customer service, but the customers are other corporations that are paying you millions of dollars per year.
At this last job she was the "chief engagement officer" managed the team of people that helped their clients to use their product.
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i'd say at least 70% of people (in america) have job titles where i can't tell what they do from the title and have no idea how anyone makes money from them doing what they do.
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i'd say at least 70% of people (in america) have job titles where i can't tell what they do from the title and have no idea how anyone makes money from them doing what they do.
Yup
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i'd say at least 70% of people (in america) have job titles where i can't tell what they do from the title and have no idea how anyone makes money from them doing what they do.
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Nothing wrong with hiring a good headhunter.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Too bad she's not a dentist.
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Too bad she's not a dentist.
You're telling me!
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Sorry kcfd. My sister in law was let go this week.
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sounds like you kc'rs need to go do some serious binge drinking at your local establishment.
sucks, kcfdcat, but sounds like she'll land back on her feet :thumbs:
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sounds like you kc'rs need to go do some serious binge drinking at your local establishment.
sucks, kcfdcat, but sounds like she'll land back on her feet :thumbs:
Thanks 'bias
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Congratulations to her. It seems that the the future of the company sucked, so why delay the inevitable? They are giving her a chance to to be the first mover in a strong economy at the right time of year.
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Got laid off 3 weeks into my first job after college along with 2299 other souls. Not going to name names though. Hawker Beechcraft
I see what you did there? :D
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Wife was offered a job today. :kstategrad:
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So right before christmas our new vp said in 18 months our department would lose 54 of 100 some people. Half. They are oursourcing a pretty decent size, the rest gone in 18 months. That night, i applied for 2 companies i really want to work for, and an old manager recommended me for some positions at his current firm also would work for. Had an interview today, another thursday, and another next week.
The question is, even if i dont get these jobs should i apply for voluntary severence? I havent been here long enough to get much, maybe a month and a half or two of pay, but it wont be available after Jan 31. Is it worth the risk of not having a job because i think i can get one quickly?
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yea negotiate a severance package and get a new job too, I bet you can get more than two months.
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So right before christmas our new vp said in 18 months our department would lose 54 of 100 some people. Half. They are oursourcing a pretty decent size, the rest gone in 18 months. That night, i applied for 2 companies i really want to work for, and an old manager recommended me for some positions at his current firm also would work for. Had an interview today, another thursday, and another next week.
The question is, even if i dont get these jobs should i apply for voluntary severence? I havent been here long enough to get much, maybe a month and a half or two of pay, but it wont be available after Jan 31. Is it worth the risk of not having a job because i think i can get one quickly?
the hiring process it takes a long time, even if your old friend wants to hire you. between the time the company decides to offer you, you negotiate a salary, drug test, background check, etc until you collect your first paycheck- there's a lot that goes on... so, like, longer than 6-8 weeks is what i'm saying.
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Are you eligible for unemployment if you take voluntary severence?
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not during your severance period (in KS/MO)
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Drug test? Companies still do that?
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not during your severance period (in KS/MO)
I thought that I have heard that voluntary sev can jeopardize unemployment after the sev expires. Just thinking that our guy should know that, if it's true, before jumping.
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Drug test? Companies still do that?
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Yeah I thought only gov jobs did that...
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not during your severance period (in KS/MO)
I thought that I have heard that voluntary sev can jeopardize unemployment after the sev expires. Just thinking that our guy should know that, if it's true, before jumping.
he'd be eligible for unemployment after his severance
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Are you eligible for unemployment if you take voluntary severence?
This was my first thought. Be careful on wording of severance.
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On second thought you should do nothing and hope for the best
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Are you eligible for unemployment if you take voluntary severence?
If you have them draft the terms appropriately, yes. Make it more of a settlement than a severance. Doubt most companies would do that though for an entry-level employee especially when there are 53 others in the same boat.
Jabeez if you want to keep your job for longer while you look file a bogus claim with the EEOC. Then they pretty much can't get rid of you because it could look like a retaliation. It's pretty bush league, though.
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Thanks for the advice guys. Jan 31 is the deadline to request the severance package. So i guess i can see where i am at in the process of these other positions before then and decide to apply. I am geussing they would then negotiate with me when to leave, because i would have to hand off projects to other coworkers. I just havent been here long enough to accrue a good package, but i didnt even think about they would negotiate it.