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Title: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 04, 2012, 08:59:57 AM
When are they putting Q-Morg, Darren and Jordy up there? Will this be part of the opening of WSC?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 09:03:45 AM
quincy is a bit of an outlier there pc96
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 04, 2012, 09:07:26 AM
quincy is a bit of an outlier there pc96

No.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 09:12:01 AM
quincy is a bit of an outlier there pc96

No.

yes
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Panjandrum on October 04, 2012, 09:15:23 AM
I'd like to see Darren and Jordy go in together, but that's just me.

Then Collin and Arthur later.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 09:16:04 AM
I'd like to see Darren and Jordy go in together, but that's just me.

Then Collin and Arthur later.  :gocho:

I don't think Arthur is eligible (along with Bishop, Morgan, etc.) because of their weird rules.
Title: Re: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: michigancat on October 04, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
I'd like to see Darren and Jordy go in together, but that's just me.

Then Collin and Arthur later.  :gocho:

I don't think Arthur is eligible (along with Bishop, Morgan, etc.) because of their weird rules.

Love that a program built on jucos makes up rules that keep jucos out of their hall of fame thing. Just love it.
Title: Re: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 09:21:32 AM
I'd like to see Darren and Jordy go in together, but that's just me.

Then Collin and Arthur later.  :gocho:

I don't think Arthur is eligible (along with Bishop, Morgan, etc.) because of their weird rules.

Love that a program built on jucos makes up rules that keep jucos out of their hall of fame thing. Just love it.

it's sean snyder's fault really
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 09:25:17 AM
i don't think the rules keep jucos out, nor would they keep arthur out. sean was a transfer as well, you know? i do think they make it harder for jucos though and i do think that it's entirely possible that the rules were made up by sean to ensure that he was one of the few to be allowed in.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 09:26:14 AM
i don't think the rules keep jucos out. i do think that it's entirely possible that the rules were made up by sean to ensure that he was one of the few to be allowed in.

everyone always said that it was 4 year players that were 1st team AAs. Is that not correct?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 09:26:55 AM
i don't think the rules keep jucos out. i do think that it's entirely possible that the rules were made up by sean to ensure that he was one of the few to be allowed in.

everyone always said that it was 4 year players that were 1st team AAs. Is that not correct?

that's not correct. i think you just have to have graduated and have been a 1st team AA. sean was a transfer.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 09:28:21 AM
i don't think the rules keep jucos out. i do think that it's entirely possible that the rules were made up by sean to ensure that he was one of the few to be allowed in.

everyone always said that it was 4 year players that were 1st team AAs. Is that not correct?

i don't think that's correct. i think you just have to have graduated and have been a 1st team AA. sean was a transfer.

NOW I'M PISSED ABOUT BISHOP AGAIN!  :angry:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 04, 2012, 09:29:04 AM
Is Jeff Kelly on there?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 09:29:38 AM

SEAN SNYDER
Career statisticsYear Team G No Yards Avg Long
1989 Iowa 11 7 237 33.9 47
1991 Kansas State 11 55 2,228 40.5 64
1992 Kansas State 11 80 3,572 44.7 46
 Career Totals 33 142 6,037 42.5 64
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: 8manpick on October 04, 2012, 09:31:31 AM

SEAN SNYDER
Career statisticsYear Team G No Yards Avg Long
1989 Iowa 11 7 237 33.9 47
1991 Kansas State 11 55 2,228 40.5 64
1992 Kansas State 11 80 3,572 44.7 46
 Career Totals 33 142 6,037 42.5 64

80 punts in 11 games?  Holy jesus.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Panjandrum on October 04, 2012, 09:33:21 AM
Well, I don't even think Darren is technically eligible either, but he'll get in.

Arthur, if he ends up being an All-American, has to go up there.  He's a Kansan.  There's no way they'd leave out a kid from Wichita if he remotely qualified.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2012, 09:34:51 AM

SEAN SNYDER
Career statisticsYear Team G No Yards Avg Long
1989 Iowa 11 7 237 33.9 47
1991 Kansas State 11 55 2,228 40.5 64
1992 Kansas State 11 80 3,572 44.7 46
 Career Totals 33 142 6,037 42.5 64

80 punts in 11 games?  Holy jesus.

that's why he holds the punting yardage record.  garcia has already beaten his punt average career record, but we don't see him in the ring of honor.  wonder why?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2012, 09:40:22 AM
I'm starting to feel like I'm not proud of this house that we built! Lies and Deception!
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 09:40:57 AM

SEAN SNYDER
Career statisticsYear Team G No Yards Avg Long
1989 Iowa 11 7 237 33.9 47
1991 Kansas State 11 55 2,228 40.5 64
1992 Kansas State 11 80 3,572 44.7 46
 Career Totals 33 142 6,037 42.5 64

80 punts in 11 games?  Holy jesus.

that's why he holds the punting yardage record.  garcia has already beaten his punt average career record, but we don't see him in the ring of honor.  wonder why?

also, and i know this for a fact...kstate used to heat up footballs in a microwave type thing on their sideline during cold games and then insert those balls into the game right before snyder had to punt. they did not offer this to opposing teams. fact.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: 8manpick on October 04, 2012, 09:46:44 AM
rd, I think that was a fairly common practice fwiw
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 09:48:27 AM
rd, I think that was a fairly common practice fwiw

well i don't think it was fwiw
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Daddy Claxton on October 04, 2012, 09:49:09 AM
What is Mark Simoneau's degree in? (I don't think graduation is a pre-req.)
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: 8manpick on October 04, 2012, 10:07:07 AM
rd, I think that was a fairly common practice fwiw

well i don't think it was fwiw

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1017189/index.htm

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Maybe even microwaved

Granted, this is the NFL, but probably safe to say that NCAA kickers used doctored balls too.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: mocat on October 04, 2012, 10:12:51 AM
Well, I don't even think Darren is technically eligible either

Why not?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 10:21:06 AM
rd, I think that was a fairly common practice fwiw

well i don't think it was fwiw

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1017189/index.htm

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Maybe even microwaved

Granted, this is the NFL, but probably safe to say that NCAA kickers used doctored balls too.

that's a pretty neat article but it's also pretty different from what kstate was doing at the time.

kstate would supply ball boys for home games and they would all wear bright green big8 t-shirts. the ball boys were all townie highschool fball players. during a very specific and very cold iowa state night game that was on espn and had snow and sleet, etc. one of the ball boys was given a very specific task to put a ball in a heater type thing and then insert it into the game only when kstate had to punt. the espn sideline guy even asked and questioned the townie kid about what he was doing but he no commented the guy. they didn't offer this to iowa state and i'm reasonably sure that this wasn't common at all during that time frame. funny though and i loved bill for it.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: 8manpick on October 04, 2012, 10:21:57 AM
Nice! :bill:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 04, 2012, 10:26:04 AM
rd, I think that was a fairly common practice fwiw

well i don't think it was fwiw

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1017189/index.htm

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Maybe even microwaved

Granted, this is the NFL, but probably safe to say that NCAA kickers used doctored balls too.

that's a pretty neat article but it's also pretty different from what kstate was doing at the time.

kstate would supply ball boys for home games and they would all wear bright green big8 t-shirts. the ball boys were all townie highschool fball players. during a very specific and very cold iowa state night game that was on espn and had snow and sleet, etc. one of the ball boys was given a very specific task to put a ball in a heater type thing and then insert it into the game only when kstate had to punt. the espn sideline guy even asked and questioned the townie kid about what he was doing but he no commented the guy. they didn't offer this to iowa state and i'm reasonably sure that this wasn't common at all during that time frame. funny though and i loved bill for it.
SCHEMED
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 04, 2012, 10:30:53 AM
Criteria should be:  All time best players, who had biggest impact on KSU Football.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
Criteria should be:  All time best players, who had biggest impact on KSU Football.

yeah, we know. unfortunately the criteria made was:

How can we get Sean up there while keeping most people from being up there?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: OK_Cat on October 04, 2012, 10:40:14 AM
freemaw better be put up there before any other loser mentioned in this thread
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Daddy Claxton on October 04, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
Criteria should be:  All time best players, who had biggest impact on KSU Football.

yeah, we know. unfortunately the criteria made was:

How can we get Sean up there while keeping most people from being up there?

And the solution was "Bill, why don't you just arbrtrarily choose who gets in"
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 10:47:55 AM
Criteria should be:  All time best players, who had biggest impact on KSU Football.

yeah, we know. unfortunately the criteria made was:

How can we get Sean up there while keeping most people from being up there?

And the solution was "Bill, why don't you just arbrtrarily choose who gets in"

yeah daddy claxton. that was clearly the only other alternative.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Daddy Claxton on October 04, 2012, 10:52:17 AM
Definitely not saying there weren't dozens of ways to do it. I'm saying the criteria is whatever Bill says it is.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: michigancat on October 04, 2012, 11:43:31 AM
So what is keeping Bish out, again?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: PurpleSleezyE on October 04, 2012, 11:44:40 AM
freemaw better be put up there before any other loser mentioned in this thread

Wrong. 
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Lefty on October 04, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
So what is keeping Bish out, again?

Bishop was 1st Team All-American according to Sporting News and Football News publications. Perhaps it has to be a specific organization like Football Writers Association or something similar.....

edit to say he fumbled.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
So what is keeping Bish out, again?

Bishop was 1st Team All-American according to Sporting News and Football News publications. Perhaps it has to be a specific organization like Football Writers Association or something similar.....

edit to say he fumbled.

does bishop have a ksu degree? i think that's one of the criteria. not 100% sure, but that's what i think keeps out people that any normal person would say should be in. will/might keep out freemaw?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: "storm"nut on October 04, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
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The Ring of Honor is designed to recognize those in the football program who have distinguished themselves on and off the field. Among the criteria considered is graduation from Kansas State with a student-athlete having been out of school for at least five years, quality of character, whether the person is an excellent representative of K-State and whether a person has achieved performance that warrents consensus All-America level status at Kansas State University.

http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html)

Bishop hold up is he has not Graduated for K-State
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: hemmy on October 04, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
freemaw better be put up there before any other loser mentioned in this thread

Tries too hard to be edgy
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: waks on October 04, 2012, 01:30:34 PM
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The Ring of Honor is designed to recognize those in the football program who have distinguished themselves on and off the field. Among the criteria considered is graduation from Kansas State with a student-athlete having been out of school for at least five years, quality of character, whether the person is an excellent representative of K-State and whether a person has achieved performance that warrents consensus All-America level status at Kansas State University.

http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html)

Bishop hold up is he has not Graduated for K-State
I'm pretty sure Bishop graduated, actually.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 01:31:58 PM
I can think of about a billion people that met those qualifications harder than sean snyder
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 04, 2012, 01:34:11 PM
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The Ring of Honor is designed to recognize those in the football program who have distinguished themselves on and off the field. Among the criteria considered is graduation from Kansas State with a student-athlete having been out of school for at least five years, quality of character, whether the person is an excellent representative of K-State and whether a person has achieved performance that warrents consensus All-America level status at Kansas State University.

http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html)

TNew must have gone up there the second he was eligible. They need to get Darren and Jordy up there.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: CNS on October 04, 2012, 01:36:04 PM
So, we need to give Bish an honorary degree on Friday night, then a place in the Ring Sat morning at halftime.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: "storm"nut on October 04, 2012, 01:39:08 PM
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The Ring of Honor is designed to recognize those in the football program who have distinguished themselves on and off the field. Among the criteria considered is graduation from Kansas State with a student-athlete having been out of school for at least five years, quality of character, whether the person is an excellent representative of K-State and whether a person has achieved performance that warrents consensus All-America level status at Kansas State University.

http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html)

Bishop hold up is he has not Graduated for K-State
I'm pretty sure Bishop graduated, actually.

I know for a fact he did not walk or graduate in the class of 98. Could have come back and got his degree after the fact however.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: "storm"nut on October 04, 2012, 01:40:52 PM


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The Ring of Honor is designed to recognize those in the football program who have distinguished themselves on and off the field. Among the criteria considered is graduation from Kansas State with a student-athlete having been out of school for at least five years, quality of character, whether the person is an excellent representative of K-State and whether a person has achieved performance that warrents consensus All-America level status at Kansas State University.

http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html)

TNew must have gone up there the second he was eligible. They need to get Darren and Jordy up there.

They wait till they have a group to do at once. Of the players not up there yet that I think are eligible I think Jordy and Darren are the only ones left off.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: mocat on October 04, 2012, 01:43:56 PM


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The Ring of Honor is designed to recognize those in the football program who have distinguished themselves on and off the field. Among the criteria considered is graduation from Kansas State with a student-athlete having been out of school for at least five years, quality of character, whether the person is an excellent representative of K-State and whether a person has achieved performance that warrents consensus All-America level status at Kansas State University.

http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080702aaa.html)

TNew must have gone up there the second he was eligible. They need to get Darren and Jordy up there.

They wait till they have a group to do at once. Of the players not up there yet that I think are eligible I think Jordy and Darren are the only ones left off.

Jordy just graduated 4 years ago
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Legit Elite on October 04, 2012, 01:49:24 PM
There should be an exception to all the RULEZ that if you are a national award winner and heisman finalist, no other criteria is required...clearly you have done something right.

Others that should be considered:

1. Sproles duh
2. Jeff Kelly
3. Andre Coleman
4. Chris Canty

I'm sure there are some others I forgot about.  And I'm sure one or more of the four I mentioned have eligibility issues, but they are all more than adorable enough to be up there.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: "storm"nut on October 04, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
After doing some checking Bishop my now finally have his K-State degree. So Bishiop should be going up in the next class along with Jordy and Darren.

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Bishop now lives in his hometown of Willis, Texas, where he is coaching at nearby The Woodlands Christian Academy, plus he is finishing his final three-hour course in philosophy that will complete his K-State degree.
 
"It's taken too many years (for his degree), but I was busy trying to make a living playing football," said Bishop. "I'm proud that I'm going to finish."

http://www.kstatesports.com/blog/2010/10/bishop-comes-home.html (http://www.kstatesports.com/blog/2010/10/bishop-comes-home.html)
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2012, 01:52:32 PM
the fact that while at new england bishop taught tom brady everything he knows, often goes overlooked. the reality is brady was riding the pine behind bishop while bishop tutored his apprentice (brady).  bishop, realizing he could make more money in the canadian league (no taxes, etc), stepped aside and made it possible for brady to become a serviceable nfl journeyman. 
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Lefty on October 04, 2012, 02:06:38 PM
I'm just speculated here, but I bet Bish got his degree a few years ago by utilizing our fantastic Second Wind program of continuing education at Kansas State University. The Ring of Honor requirements state a student-athlete must be 5 years removed from graduating.

Let's say he finally stopped playing for the Canadian Geese Argonauts in 2005, went back to Texas and dicked around for awhile, and finally Bishop decided to complete his degree by using the Second Wind Program in 2006. It'll take him a year to finish say May 2008. According to my calculations: Bishop should be scheduled to enter the Ring of Honor during the 2013 KSU Football season.

Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 04, 2012, 02:10:58 PM
the fact that while at new england bishop taught tom brady everything he knows, often goes overlooked. the reality is brady was riding the pine behind bishop while bishop tutored his apprentice (brady).  bishop, realizing he could make more money in the canadian league (no taxes, etc), stepped aside and made it possible for brady to become a serviceable nfl journeyman.
Just waiting on Bishop. What a fantastic human being.

Not many 'Cats (not named Arthur Brown) have put their mark on a team the way ol' #7 did.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 04, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
Where is the Ring of Honor going to be moved to when we install LED ribbon boards?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2012, 02:11:50 PM
Where is the Ring of Honor going to be moved to when we install LED ribbon boards?

probably the Sean Snyder Football Training Facility
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: EMAWzified on October 04, 2012, 02:18:53 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Legit Elite on October 04, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
Where is the Ring of Honor going to be moved to when we install LED ribbon boards?

probably the Sean Snyder Football Training Facility
Not this

Seriously, could we come up with some ideas for this besides the traditional....ribbon boards are coming too as stated.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Legit Elite on October 04, 2012, 02:23:47 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.
True story

Also the defensive side...Darren Howard, Damien McIntosh, etc.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: AST on October 04, 2012, 02:27:09 PM
Terry Pierce would definitely need to make it if he stayed for his senior year.  I still think he merits getting in.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2012, 02:28:21 PM
it's pretty disgusting that our own university treats our athletes worse than the heisman voters did
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: AST on October 04, 2012, 02:29:53 PM
 :sadpeek:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: mocat on October 04, 2012, 02:30:02 PM
OH MY eff WHAT A BORING THREAD
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Winters on October 04, 2012, 02:32:48 PM
the fact that while at new england bishop taught tom brady everything he knows, often goes overlooked. the reality is brady was riding the pine behind bishop while bishop tutored his apprentice (brady).  bishop, realizing he could make more money in the canadian league (no taxes, etc), stepped aside and made it possible for brady to become a serviceable nfl journeyman.
Bish is probably the most unselfish person you'll ever know.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on October 04, 2012, 02:36:33 PM
Four real (consensus) All-Americans are not on the Ring:

Chris Canty (x2 + unanimous AA)
Jeff Kelly
Bish
Jordy

Also, four guys who were not consensus AAs are already on the Ring.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Legit Elite on October 04, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
Concensus All-Americans I tracked down...

1992 Some punter guy
1995-96 *Chris Canty (not sure why the * in '96)
1997 Automatica
1998 Bishop, Allen, Kelly
1999 Marky mark...what happened to his kstatehd.tv career?
2002 Newman
2007 Jordy
2012 Predator, Judge, Junior, whatev

Also, I realize there are a few from pre '88 but I'm not doing the research
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 04, 2012, 02:51:09 PM



2012 Predator, The Judge, Junior, whatev

Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
tim colston should get in imo as well. such an underrated wild wild cat & he still lives in manhattan :soblessed:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on October 04, 2012, 03:10:45 PM

Also, I realize there are a few from pre '88 but I'm not doing the research

The only one from before 1988 is Collin Klein's father-in-law.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Legit Elite on October 04, 2012, 03:12:03 PM

Also, I realize there are a few from pre '88 but I'm not doing the research

The only one from before 1988 is Collin Klein's father-in-law.
well, I may have missed some then I think somewhere I read that we have 13, not 11
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2012, 10:22:40 PM
The RoH needs to be very exclusive.  I don't want to be one of those loser schools retiring numbers/jerseys for every player who made a nice play at one time.  AAs only, no exceptions.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Legit Elite on October 04, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
The RoH needs to be very exclusive.  I don't want to be one of those loser schools retiring numbers/jerseys for every player who made a nice play at one time.  AAs only, no exceptions.
Sproles?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2012, 10:38:48 PM
The RoH needs to be very exclusive.  I don't want to be one of those loser schools retiring numbers/jerseys for every player who made a nice play at one time.  AAs only, no exceptions.
Sproles?

uh, Sproles was a 1st team AP All American.  I didn't say anything about consensus All American.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 04, 2012, 10:41:31 PM
1st team AA or get the hell out. That being said, we should get every 1st team AA up there so we look really damn elite.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 04, 2012, 11:03:38 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr (All American)
Ryan Young (not sure, but I think AA)
Barrett Brooks (All American)
Jim Hmielewski (All American)
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2012, 11:07:56 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 04, 2012, 11:14:49 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

They're not All Americans dumbass (or offensive linemen, which was the context)
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: michigancat on October 04, 2012, 11:21:03 PM
it would really dillute the hall of fame that lists Sean Snyder as an inaugural member if we let that Heisman Runner-up in.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2012, 11:38:11 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

They're not All Americans dumbass (or offensive linemen, which was the context)

Point is that they shouldn't be on the ring of honor, dumbass
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 04, 2012, 11:50:12 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

They're not All Americans dumbass (or offensive linemen, which was the context)

Point is that they shouldn't be on the ring of honor, dumbass

What's your criteria then?  Those guys are All Americans, K-State grads, NFL players...more deserving than some that are up there already (certainly Sean).  Not saying they SHOULD be up there, but they should be considered if we're going to start throwing out names, and his point about o-linemen was valid.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2012, 11:54:39 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

They're not All Americans dumbass (or offensive linemen, which was the context)

Point is that they shouldn't be on the ring of honor, dumbass

What's your criteria then?  Those guys are All Americans, K-State grads, NFL players...more deserving than some that are up there already (certainly Sean).  Not saying they SHOULD be up there, but they should be considered if we're going to start throwing out names, and his point about o-linemen was valid.

If an O lineman is up there, they should have been dominant, like Orlando Pace dominant.  Like Outland Trophy winning dominant.  Sean Snyder being up there should have no bearing on who follows.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 04, 2012, 11:59:48 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

They're not All Americans dumbass (or offensive linemen, which was the context)

Point is that they shouldn't be on the ring of honor, dumbass

What's your criteria then?  Those guys are All Americans, K-State grads, NFL players...more deserving than some that are up there already (certainly Sean).  Not saying they SHOULD be up there, but they should be considered if we're going to start throwing out names, and his point about o-linemen was valid.

If an O lineman is up there, they should have been dominant, like Orlando Pace dominant.  Like Outland Trophy winning dominant.  Sean Snyder being up there should have no bearing on who follows.

Don't disagree with you, but hold those same standards for everyone then.  Other than Bishop and Sproles, no one else should be on the waiting list.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2012, 12:01:48 AM
I could have sworn that I was trumpeting exclusively, could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: chum1 on October 05, 2012, 12:55:47 AM
I just put Ring of Honor Butthurt on the list of all time best butthurt types.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: SleepFighter on October 05, 2012, 09:13:34 AM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

Sure, why not!

You know what's fun, Ring of Honor inductions!   Much like field/court rushing, I say the more the merrier!  Enjoy yourselves K-State fans and pretty good former players.  Let's have fun!

 :billdance:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 05, 2012, 09:29:36 AM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

They're not All Americans dumbass (or offensive linemen, which was the context)

Point is that they shouldn't be on the ring of honor, dumbass

What's your criteria then?  Those guys are All Americans, K-State grads, NFL players...more deserving than some that are up there already (certainly Sean).  Not saying they SHOULD be up there, but they should be considered if we're going to start throwing out names, and his point about o-linemen was valid.

If an O lineman is up there, they should have been dominant, like Orlando Pace dominant.  Like Outland Trophy winning dominant.  Sean Snyder being up there should have no bearing on who follows.

Don't disagree with you, but hold those same standards for everyone then.  Other than Bishop and Sproles, no one else should be on the waiting list.

Jordy  :nono:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dave Wooderson on October 05, 2012, 09:34:31 AM
It's sad that Kevin Lockett can't be considered.  Not only is he our #1 receiver of all time, with him coming to K-State and playing so well we were blessed with Aaron and now Baby Lockett.

Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: wes mantooth on October 05, 2012, 10:07:38 AM
It's sad that Kevin Lockett can't be considered.  Not only is he our #1 receiver of all time, with him coming to K-State and playing so well we were blessed with Aaron and now Baby Lockett.

and future double baby adorable twin Locketts
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on October 05, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
It's sad that Kevin Lockett can't be considered.  Not only is he our #1 receiver of all time, with him coming to K-State and playing so well we were blessed with Aaron and now Baby Lockett.

Lockett can be considered.  We already have 4 non-consensus-AAs on the wall: Lynn Dickey, Steve Grogan, Veryl Switzer and Mr. Essence Atkins (Jamie Mendez).

Meanwhile, KSU's only two-time consensus-AA, and unanimous All-American, Chris Canty isn't up there.  Maybe he hasn't graduated.  Or maybe it's because he got a DUI and had to surrender his Thorpe award, and was hung over (dehydrated) at the Cotton Bowl against BYU.  Dunno.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: OK_Cat on October 05, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
bishop is/was the most important player in school history, for eff's sake.  his name should have been up there the day after he left school.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: AST on October 05, 2012, 03:07:17 PM
Do offensive linemen even need apply? Because some serious omissions there from everyone's list.

Quentin Neujahr
Ryan Young

Christ, why not Mike Lawrence & Eric Hickson while we're at it?

They're not All Americans dumbass (or offensive linemen, which was the context)

Point is that they shouldn't be on the ring of honor, dumbass

What's your criteria then?  Those guys are All Americans, K-State grads, NFL players...more deserving than some that are up there already (certainly Sean).  Not saying they SHOULD be up there, but they should be considered if we're going to start throwing out names, and his point about o-linemen was valid.

If an O lineman is up there, they should have been dominant, like Orlando Pace dominant.  Like Outland Trophy winning dominant.  Sean Snyder being up there should have no bearing on who follows.

Don't disagree with you, but hold those same standards for everyone then.  Other than Bishop and Sproles, no one else should be on the waiting list.

Jordy  :nono:
:powerespect:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: POWL on October 05, 2012, 03:10:10 PM
It's sad that Kevin Lockett can't be considered.  Not only is he our #1 receiver of all time, with him coming to K-State and playing so well we were blessed with Aaron and now Baby Lockett.

Lockett can be considered.  We already have 4 non-consensus-AAs on the wall: Lynn Dickey, Steve Grogan, Veryl Switzer and Mr. Essence Atkins (Jamie Mendez).

Meanwhile, KSU's only two-time consensus-AA, and unanimous All-American, Chris Canty isn't up there.  Maybe he hasn't graduated.  Or maybe it's because he got a DUI and had to surrender his Thorpe award, and was hung over (dehydrated) at the Cotton Bowl against BYU.  Dunno.

this is really the point..........the rules are not clear....or at least not to the public......do we have a super spy who can get an offical athletic department statement on this ?

 :pray:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on June 05, 2022, 02:19:04 PM
Rest In Peace. One of the greatest Cats and Kansans of all time:

https://twitter.com/thekstatefamily/status/1533486744720617477?s=21&t=udK66tnbCssl1ti9uuxCgg
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on June 05, 2022, 03:42:26 PM
 :cry: a true hero and an incredibly nice man
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Dr. Fausto Rindón on June 05, 2022, 06:14:20 PM
Said hello to him nearly every football game for 25 years at the top of section 5.  Great man.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on June 05, 2022, 09:56:50 PM
https://twitter.com/7MichaelBishop/status/1533613633237766145?s=20&t=35Eb14UrNQ5u30QjJK9LTw
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: KITNfury on June 05, 2022, 11:04:56 PM
He came from a historical all black town in western Kansas (Nicodemus). It barely exists at this point, but even with its small size was home to many great athletes alongside Veryl, although I can't think of anyone that did more in the pro athletic realm.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: TaqMan on June 06, 2022, 11:39:28 AM
He came from a historical all black town in western Kansas (Nicodemus). It barely exists at this point, but even with its small size was home to many great athletes alongside Veryl, although I can't think of anyone that did more in the pro athletic realm.

I just spent the better part of my lunch break reading about Nicodemus, KS. I'd never even heard about it or knew that it existed. Thanks for sharing.

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ks-nicodemus/
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Spracne on June 06, 2022, 11:49:16 AM
He came from a historical all black town in western Kansas (Nicodemus). It barely exists at this point, but even with its small size was home to many great athletes alongside Veryl, although I can't think of anyone that did more in the pro athletic realm.

I just spent the better part of my lunch break reading about Nicodemus, KS. I'd never even heard about it or knew that it existed. Thanks for sharing.

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ks-nicodemus/

I fell down the Nicodemus rabbit hole over the weekend, myself. Fascinating stuff.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on June 20, 2022, 09:17:58 AM
Great write up from D Scott. Includes some brief history of Nicodemus.

https://s22009.t.en25.com/e/es?s=22009&e=9596&elqTrackId=efd74c1a1b7a40299e524d6e5aa03bea&elq=d9c5311e85b74f6398be365f1a2f71e8&elqaid=884&elqat=1 (https://s22009.t.en25.com/e/es?s=22009&e=9596&elqTrackId=efd74c1a1b7a40299e524d6e5aa03bea&elq=d9c5311e85b74f6398be365f1a2f71e8&elqaid=884&elqat=1)

Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: waks on June 20, 2022, 11:48:54 AM
https://twitter.com/7MichaelBishop/status/1533613633237766145?s=20&t=35Eb14UrNQ5u30QjJK9LTw
lil waks bought that football card on Ebay with his paper route money and his parents got Veryl to sign it. I'll have to see if I still have it somewhere.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on June 28, 2022, 02:13:59 PM
https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1541839484009979906?s=20&t=rhlm-SbyIcEKZnjEwsJ7aQ
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on June 28, 2022, 03:38:54 PM
Jesus Christ
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: ben ji on June 29, 2022, 04:44:44 PM
https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1541839484009979906?s=20&t=rhlm-SbyIcEKZnjEwsJ7aQ

The move at 1:36 is my favorite. In space 1v1 with the USC defender and just depants him with one cut.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on August 23, 2022, 12:59:56 PM
I enjoyed this Twitter thread.
https://twitter.com/Thekstatefan2/status/1562135221339922432?s=20&t=wAGvLFCTz-uN8uXQNJhUJQ
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 02, 2022, 10:59:36 AM
I think I’m most excited about having Ell Roberson inducted into the ring of honor. I think it sucks the way Snyder treated him at the end. I hope they buried the hatchet.
[tweet]1565730014540300290[/tweet]
https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU (https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU)
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 02, 2022, 12:30:12 PM
If is up to me, there would be a lot more inductees into the ring of honor.
[tweet]1565751116108890114[/tweet]
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1565751846819463168?s=20&t=V1lrqZrFvm9xcjiTLgKpZQ
https://youtu.be/hGfGswOf4Kw (https://youtu.be/hGfGswOf4Kw)
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 02, 2022, 01:55:25 PM
Glad to see them back
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 02, 2022, 06:22:53 PM
Anybody connected enough to attend this thing?
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1565838714386931719?s=20&t=sL7V9OMaWCJFcbssin6QEg
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 09:11:04 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566063466435080196?s=20&t=b94aDN8j7k42xHaEs6Thpw
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 09:53:34 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566071012956860416?s=20&t=MrsLdgk1CzEznNk5wvTJlA
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 03, 2022, 10:17:16 AM
I think I’m most excited about having Ell Roberson inducted into the ring of honor. I think it sucks the way Snyder treated him at the end. I hope they buried the hatchet.
[tweet]1565730014540300290[/tweet]
https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU (https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU)
Good interview with Ell. He looks good.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 03, 2022, 10:22:34 AM
I think I’m most excited about having Ell Roberson inducted into the ring of honor. I think it sucks the way Snyder treated him at the end. I hope they buried the hatchet.
[tweet]1565730014540300290[/tweet]
https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU (https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU)
Good interview with Ell. He looks good.

Still has great eyebrows.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 10:41:18 AM
I think I’m most excited about having Ell Roberson inducted into the ring of honor. I think it sucks the way Snyder treated him at the end. I hope they buried the hatchet.
[tweet]1565730014540300290[/tweet]
https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU (https://youtu.be/6FvR805McPU)
Good interview with Ell. He looks good.

Still has great eyebrows.
lol. Who wears them better? EllRobertson or Kade Warner?
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566086114095546373?s=20&t=OHVkJqetoQb3H8YBVLbxUw
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 10:56:56 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566078564629303296?s=20&t=xUXFi_xVeSobNmYvU8LYXA
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 11:15:22 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566093663200899072?s=20&t=5vWwkvqpX-SRHeOX9wxtwQ
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 12:20:16 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566101211895529474?s=20&t=qqOpr_H0qfR7dr3ZJVFXXg
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 08:12:00 PM

Darren Howard said that he and “his son” were enjoying Manhattan. Does his son ball?  Unofficial visit?
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566228664769028099?s=20&t=4mIIPz36ZN5vXHJbfupxjA
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: ben ji on September 03, 2022, 10:11:32 PM
Thanks for posting these HugeCat. I'm excited to be excited for cat football again and seeing all these old players makes me EVEN MORE EXCITED.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 03, 2022, 10:51:30 PM
Da nada, Ben Ji
https://youtu.be/xtlgsdS6atY (https://youtu.be/xtlgsdS6atY)
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2022, 10:51:51 PM
It was so dang pure watching them get inducted and announced and bill walking around hugging them. I got a little misty guys.


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Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2022, 11:05:18 PM
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Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Katpappy on September 04, 2022, 12:52:25 AM
Da nada, Ben Ji
https://youtu.be/xtlgsdS6atY (https://youtu.be/xtlgsdS6atY)

Damn HugeCat, I spent quite a while listening to this video.  Also, TY for posting this delightful presentation as I really enjoyed it.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 04, 2022, 09:21:49 AM
They messed up the font for the new guys. It’s too thin. I doesn’t look right with the other lettering on the WSC. I hope they realize it looks terrible & redo it.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 04, 2022, 11:00:30 AM
Da nada, catpappy. Jordy looks different with his hair grown out.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 05, 2022, 01:03:16 PM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1566843615137218560?s=20&t=duYFT1PFtIPIYjg8lrB2FQ
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: pissclams on September 05, 2022, 01:40:08 PM
ck still borrowing his uncle’s suit
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2022, 02:06:24 PM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Church Creeper on September 06, 2022, 11:30:23 AM
Wyatt sure worked up a lather
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: HugeCat on September 07, 2022, 03:40:12 PM
The entire Lockett family should be in the ring of honor. Program Transformational
https://twitter.com/Lockettagency21/status/1567492520392929281?s=20&t=_TlwlOkK0wHVeSjrmUYZCg


Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 13, 2022, 01:07:44 PM
Saw this in another thread but thought it would be fun to add here. Who goes to the Ring of Honor from the current team?

1. Deuce
2. King Felix
3. Beebe??
4. Possibly QB18 (depending on results next season).
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2022, 10:09:42 PM
Beebe will need to do some work to get in there, there's quite a queue of offensive lineman before him.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 14, 2023, 11:45:38 AM
Rekindling this discussion from one year ago. Beebe seems to have garnered some pretty good accolades. NGL, I felt at times this season that if we truly had an elite Kansas Beef Line, we should be able to churn out 3 - 5 yd runs at will which was not always the case. Anyway, great recognition for #50 regardless of if he makes the RoH.

https://twitter.com/BoscoesBoys/status/1735336667639128354?s=20
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 14, 2023, 12:11:09 PM
The entire Lockett family should be in the ring of honor. Program Transformational
https://twitter.com/Lockettagency21/status/1567492520392929281?s=20&t=_TlwlOkK0wHVeSjrmUYZCg
What is Sterling up to these days?
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: 114Hickory on December 14, 2023, 12:15:28 PM
The entire Lockett family should be in the ring of honor. Program Transformational
https://twitter.com/Lockettagency21/status/1567492520392929281?s=20&t=_TlwlOkK0wHVeSjrmUYZCg
What is Sterling up to these days?

About 160.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: wetwillie on December 14, 2023, 12:36:27 PM
Rekindling this discussion from one year ago. Beebe seems to have garnered some pretty good accolades. NGL, I felt at times this season that if we truly had an elite Kansas Beef Line, we should be able to churn out 3 - 5 yd runs at will which was not always the case. Anyway, great recognition for #50 regardless of if he makes the RoH.

https://twitter.com/BoscoesBoys/status/1735336667639128354?s=20

I think you have to have been out of the program for 5 years before you can be put in the ROH.  If he doesn't get in when he's eligible, we riot.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 14, 2023, 01:27:18 PM
this is great:

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1735361730845220929?s=20
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: KST8FAN on December 14, 2023, 01:31:38 PM
Why wasn't Larry Brown one of the first inductees?


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Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: ChiComCat on December 14, 2023, 01:36:07 PM
Why wasn't Larry Brown one of the first inductees?


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We needed that spot to put KU Assistant Sean Snyder up there
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: catastrophe on December 14, 2023, 02:23:26 PM
Didn’t Bebe like not give up a sack the whole season or something like that? It’s usually hard to tell from the eye test whether one guy is doing a great job but I thought just statistically Bebe was off the charts.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MadCat on December 14, 2023, 02:25:28 PM
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2023/12/14/football-beebe-earns-consensus-all-america-status (https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2023/12/14/football-beebe-earns-consensus-all-america-status)

Quote
According to Pro Football Focus, Beebe has allowed only five sacks among his 1,450 career pass blocking snaps with four of those coming in his redshirt freshman season of 2020, and he has surrendered only one sack in his last 41 games.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 14, 2023, 02:36:07 PM
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2023/12/14/football-beebe-earns-consensus-all-america-status (https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2023/12/14/football-beebe-earns-consensus-all-america-status)

Quote
According to Pro Football Focus, Beebe has allowed only five sacks among his 1,450 career pass blocking snaps with four of those coming in his redshirt freshman season of 2020, and he has surrendered only one sack in his last 41 games.
That seems really good!
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: MadCat on December 14, 2023, 02:42:46 PM
I'm not sure in which game he surrendered a sack, but I'm pretty sure it was this year.  The only site that seems to track this info is pff.com (Pro Football Focus) but it's hidden behind a paywall for 'premium stats'.
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 14, 2023, 06:29:44 PM
https://twitter.com/cooper_beebe/status/1735454472170557904?s=20
Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: cfbandyman on December 14, 2023, 09:42:28 PM
this is great:

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1735361730845220929?s=20

That's awesome and super happy for him, well earned and excited to see his first round destination.

Title: Re: Ring of Honor
Post by: OB_Won on December 14, 2023, 10:52:25 PM
this is great:

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1735361730845220929?s=20

That's awesome and super happy for him, well earned and excited to see his first round destination.
Deuce’s dad has seen him play for years.