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So, is it reasonable to expect a conference championship this year? Or is that still a whisper? I mean, we executed probably as well as we could have hoped to against OU, coupled with OU just wetting the bed. We’ve looked good/above good against Miami and OU, but average/below average against MoSt and N Texas.
Our remaining schedule seems ridiculously tough. Not only @ WVU (#7), @ TCU (#14), @ Baylor (#24), but then we have trap games of @ ISU (RV) and OSU (#22) sprinkled in, with the CTR (#10) to top it off. We play @ TCU after they would have gone @OSU and @WVU, so my assumption is that they’ll be desperately needing a win. And @ ISU scares the crap out of me. They will not mind playing our game and they will run right at us (something I think teams don’t try to do enough of, quite frankly). If we get by @ ISU and @ WVU, then, my goodness. We’d have 2 games leads on OU and WVU. Right now, though, kinda premature?
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It's never ever reasonable to expect a conference championship, ever, ever, under any circumstance
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Just soak it all in brah, soak it all in.
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as chingon mentioned, this schedule is the hardest bill has ever faced. hard to fathom getting through it but, man, maybe. WVU has a pretty pud schedule the rest of the way. their only road games of any substance are @TX and @OSU. They get us, OU, TCU and Baylor at home.
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It's never ever reasonable to expect a conference championship, ever, ever, under any circumstance
True, however you can expect to win “x” amount of games and by doing so it results in a championship. So I'll rephrase...can we expect to win enough games given our performance and the remaining schdule, to win a championship?
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as chingon mentioned, this schedule is the hardest bill has ever faced. hard to fathom getting through it but, man, maybe. WVU has a pretty pud schedule the rest of the way. their only road games of any substance are @TX and @OSU. They get us, OU, TCU and Baylor at home.
Everyone cheer your taints off for Baylor tonight.
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I still say we can win the confy champ with two losses.
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as chingon mentioned, this schedule is the hardest bill has ever faced. hard to fathom getting through it but, man, maybe. WVU has a pretty pud schedule the rest of the way. their only road games of any substance are @TX and @OSU. They get us, OU, TCU and Baylor at home.
Everyone cheer your taints off for Baylor tonight.
also saturday
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It is kinda premature, but eff it, we aren't players or coaches so we can look ahead and worry about this type of thing.
I really think West Virginia is the only game the rest of the year where I might not be very confident going into the game, but I won't have a solid opinion about coal aggie until after they play at Texas the week before we play them. Unless they really wow me in that game, I'm looking at them as a poor man's version of 2011 Oklahoma State. If we can run the ball against them and pressure Geno Smith, they don't stand a chance.
Baylor, Oklahoma State and TCU (20 points against KU :lol:) are all overrated until proven otherwise. This seems like the year Texas finally gets their crap together and plays like a team full of 4 and 5 stars, but I just don't see us losing to them at home on Senior Day with an extra week of preparation. Iowa State and Texas Tech are potential trap games but I think we have strong enough leaders among both the players and coaches to prevent us from looking past trap games.
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as chingon mentioned, this schedule is the hardest bill has ever faced. hard to fathom getting through it but, man, maybe. WVU has a pretty pud schedule the rest of the way. their only road games of any substance are @TX and @OSU. They get us, OU, TCU and Baylor at home.
Everyone cheer your taints off for Baylor tonight.
Midnight Yell practice?
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I'm expecting a conference championship and hoping for a national championship.
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It's really fun to be in this position, but I think it's going to be very difficult to make it through that schedule unscathed.
We can sputter on offense at times, and we don't have a shut down defense.
But, it's completely cool to be "worried" about this kind of stuff as compared to being "worried" about not completely sucking a$$.
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as chingon mentioned, this schedule is the hardest bill has ever faced. hard to fathom getting through it but, man, maybe. WVU has a pretty pud schedule the rest of the way. their only road games of any substance are @TX and @OSU. They get us, OU, TCU and Baylor at home.
Everyone cheer your taints off for Baylor tonight.
Midnight Yell practice?
Or tomorrow. Both is better.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
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If we can run the ball against them and pressure Geno Smith, they don't stand a chance.
I feel like we can beat anyone in the big 12 if we can do this. Texas and TCU scare me the most in this respect
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
pud schedule though
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It's really fun to be in this position, but I think it's going to be very difficult to make it through that schedule unscathed.
We can sputter on offense at times, and we don't have a shut down defense.
But, it's completely cool to be "worried" about this kind of stuff as compared to being "worried" about not completely sucking a$$.
Dax, it's OK to type "ass." We allow cuss words.
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How much are you guys going to talk crap to the WVU "dude" if we win that game?
I am going to break my twitter.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
pud schedule though
agreed.
'hey wvu, welcome to our conference. here, let me giftwrap the confy championship for you with the easiest possible schedule.'
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
No one listens because its a bad take. They very well may be overrated, not sure how they didn't get wide media criticism after that performance against Maryland, but overrated is far far far from "not good," they are undoubtedly good.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
pud schedule though
agreed.
'hey wvu, welcome to our conference. here, let me giftwrap the confy championship for you with the easiest possible schedule.'
didn't they essentially take Mizzou's schedule?
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
pud schedule though
agreed.
'hey wvu, welcome to our conference. here, let me giftwrap the confy championship for you with the easiest possible schedule.'
didn't they essentially take Mizzou's schedule?
Yeah.
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It's never ever reasonable to expect a conference championship, ever, ever, under any circumstance
True, however you can expect to win “x” amount of games and by doing so it results in a championship. So I'll rephrase...can we expect to win enough games given our performance and the remaining schdule, to win a championship?
The schedule is really tough. Everyone is overlooking that game in two weeks, its going to be a bitch. There are five games left in which we could easily go 2-3 in and still be a top 15 caliber team.
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If we can run the ball against them and pressure Geno Smith, they don't stand a chance.
I feel like we can beat anyone in the big 12 if we can do this. Texas and TCU scare me the most in this respect
Yep. Those two things plus timely turnovers and not beating ourselves are why we beat Oklahoma. I don't see K-State losing any game in which they win the turnover battle, control the line of scrimmage on offense and hit/rush the other team's QB just enough to rattle him and make him uncomfortable. Shacks' three keys to success.
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If we bomb the squawks and somewhat easily dispatch of flood aggy, I'll think they can go all the way. I still can easily see recent success/accolades going to their collective head and shitting the bed.
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I, Saulbadguy, guarantee us at least a share of the conference title this football season.
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The floodaggy's really want to beat us this year. Like really badly. That kind of scares me.
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as chingon mentioned, this schedule is the hardest bill has ever faced. hard to fathom getting through it but, man, maybe. WVU has a pretty pud schedule the rest of the way. their only road games of any substance are @TX and @OSU. They get us, OU, TCU and Baylor at home.
Everyone cheer your taints off for Baylor tonight.
Midnight Yell practice?
Or tomorrow. Both is better.
Also, a bunch of other people picked coal aggy in the elimination pool 'clams and I are in, so I am enthusiastically and properly doing the bear claw thing over the next 2 days.
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We are going to crush Iowa State. They are just awful.
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We are going to crush Iowa State. They are just awful.
yes, by 3 TD's.
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
No one listens because its a bad take. They very well may be overrated, not sure how they didn't get wide media criticism after that performance against Maryland, but overrated is far far far from "not good," they are undoubtedly good.
WVU has an inexplicable loss at least once a year. I don't see why Iowa State can't be Syracuse.
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We are going to crush Iowa State. They are just awful.
they were pretty awful last year too, right?
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
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We are going to crush Iowa State. They are just awful.
they were pretty awful last year too, right?
So was Miami, and we played them close. Look how that game went this year.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
No one listens because its a bad take. They very well may be overrated, not sure how they didn't get wide media criticism after that performance against Maryland, but overrated is far far far from "not good," they are undoubtedly good.
WVU has an inexplicable loss at least once a year. I don't see why Iowa State can't be Syracuse.
that doesn't speak to how good they are though. 99% of all college football teams will lose a game to an inferior opponent, that's sports.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
No one listens because its a bad take. They very well may be overrated, not sure how they didn't get wide media criticism after that performance against Maryland, but overrated is far far far from "not good," they are undoubtedly good.
WVU has an inexplicable loss at least once a year. I don't see why Iowa State can't be Syracuse.
Yeah, I mean they are good enough to finish the year with 7 or 8 wins, but they just aren't any better than that.
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The floodaggy's really want to beat us this year. Like really badly. That kind of scares me.
Like, I know this is true, but the only place I've seen this printed is here on goemawdotcom. Is there some chatter on isu boards?
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We are going to crush Iowa State. They are just awful.
they were pretty awful last year too, right?
So was Miami, and we played them close. Look how that game went this year.
:confused:
Point is that ISU wasn't very good last year yet they managed to beat the best team in conference at home.
Paul Rhodes has won 10 games as an underdog at ISU.
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
No. Look at the schedule. I like our chances on the road at ISU, WVU, and Baylor much more than I would like them at OSU, Texas, and Tech. The only possible way to make our schedule easier would be to play WVU at home and KU on the road. Our schedule would suck if we were some crappy team hoping to win 6 games and get bowl eligible, but for a championship contender, it's perfect.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
No one listens because its a bad take. They very well may be overrated, not sure how they didn't get wide media criticism after that performance against Maryland, but overrated is far far far from "not good," they are undoubtedly good.
WVU has an inexplicable loss at least once a year. I don't see why Iowa State can't be Syracuse.
Yeah, I mean they are good enough to finish the year with 7 or 8 wins, but they just aren't any better than that.
You think they will only win 4 conference games?
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
No. Look at the schedule. I like our chances on the road at ISU, WVU, and Baylor much more than I would like them at OSU, Texas, and Tech. The only possible way to make our schedule easier would be to play WVU at home and KU on the road. Our schedule would suck if we were some crappy team hoping to win 6 games and get bowl eligible, but for a championship contender, it's perfect.
ok, now throw out ISU (or keep them, we do go there) and add the number 14 team in the country
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We are going to crush Iowa State. They are just awful.
they were pretty awful last year too, right?
So was Miami, and we played them close. Look how that game went this year.
:confused:
Point is that ISU wasn't very good last year yet they managed to beat the best team in conference at home.
Paul Rhodes has won 10 games as an underdog at ISU.
I thought you were implying that even though they were crappy last year they still played us close so that means we should expect it again this season. Of course Rhodes has a lot of underdog wins, ISU is an underdog in every game that isn't played against KU or a directional school.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
No one listens because its a bad take. They very well may be overrated, not sure how they didn't get wide media criticism after that performance against Maryland, but overrated is far far far from "not good," they are undoubtedly good.
WVU has an inexplicable loss at least once a year. I don't see why Iowa State can't be Syracuse.
Yeah, I mean they are good enough to finish the year with 7 or 8 wins, but they just aren't any better than that.
You think they will only win 4 conference games?
I think they will win 5. They will lose to KSU, OSU, Texas, and OU. It's also sort of likely that somebody else gets them, too.
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
No. Look at the schedule. I like our chances on the road at ISU, WVU, and Baylor much more than I would like them at OSU, Texas, and Tech. The only possible way to make our schedule easier would be to play WVU at home and KU on the road. Our schedule would suck if we were some crappy team hoping to win 6 games and get bowl eligible, but for a championship contender, it's perfect.
ok, now throw out ISU (or keep them, we do go there) and add the number 14 team in the country
I don't think TCU is as good as OSU, Texas, or Tech. I'm not saying our schedule is easy, but everyone plays the same round robin, and I'd rather play the best teams at home. I wouldn't trade our Big 12 schedule with anyone else's.
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The schedule is really tough, but its tough for every team. I'm guessing the champ will have a least 1 loss, and a two or three team tie at 7-2 may be likely.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
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agree MIR. the conference is rough ridin' tough.
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
No. Look at the schedule. I like our chances on the road at ISU, WVU, and Baylor much more than I would like them at OSU, Texas, and Tech. The only possible way to make our schedule easier would be to play WVU at home and KU on the road. Our schedule would suck if we were some crappy team hoping to win 6 games and get bowl eligible, but for a championship contender, it's perfect.
ok, now throw out ISU (or keep them, we do go there) and add the number 14 team in the country
I don't think TCU is as good as OSU, Texas, or Tech. I'm not saying our schedule is easy, but everyone plays the same round robin, and I'd rather play the best teams at home. I wouldn't trade our Big 12 schedule with anyone else's.
This is absurd, WVU plays every ranked B12 team at home other than TX. They are also one of the half of the conference that only has 4 conference road games. alternatively, we only get 1 ranked conference opponent at home and play 5 conference road games. 60% of the conference is ranked.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
It's looking like they are going to play one team during the regular season that will finish ranked (LSU). Must be nice to miss out on the three best teams in the other division and get a ton of credit for being the first team to expose Michigan and trample an overrated Big Ten team. Their divisional draw is the equivalent of 2007 KU missing Oklahoma, Texas and Texas Tech, except the SEC is a bunch of pussies and only plays eight conference games despite having 14 teams so they miss even more teams.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
we know the conference is tough, jesus christ...
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
No. Look at the schedule. I like our chances on the road at ISU, WVU, and Baylor much more than I would like them at OSU, Texas, and Tech. The only possible way to make our schedule easier would be to play WVU at home and KU on the road. Our schedule would suck if we were some crappy team hoping to win 6 games and get bowl eligible, but for a championship contender, it's perfect.
ok, now throw out ISU (or keep them, we do go there) and add the number 14 team in the country
I don't think TCU is as good as OSU, Texas, or Tech. I'm not saying our schedule is easy, but everyone plays the same round robin, and I'd rather play the best teams at home. I wouldn't trade our Big 12 schedule with anyone else's.
This is absurd, WVU plays every ranked B12 team at home other than TX. They are also one of the half of the conference that only has 4 confy road games.
Austin, Lubbock, and Stillwater are all very difficult places to play. I would have traded that for Norman, Morgantown, Ft. Worth, and Waco, but now that Norman is out of the equation, I would not.
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Coming into the season every one of us would have been okay with 10-2 or 9-3. To get to those marks we had to win at least 3 of these games. @ OU, @WVU, OSU, @TCU, UT. We've won 1 of these games, not two or three. Nothing has changed, we're on the way but have plenty of work to do, not to mention having to navigate trap games like @ISU and hosting TT.
I'll revisit my stance after flood aggy and coal aggy.
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
No. Look at the schedule. I like our chances on the road at ISU, WVU, and Baylor much more than I would like them at OSU, Texas, and Tech. The only possible way to make our schedule easier would be to play WVU at home and KU on the road. Our schedule would suck if we were some crappy team hoping to win 6 games and get bowl eligible, but for a championship contender, it's perfect.
ok, now throw out ISU (or keep them, we do go there) and add the number 14 team in the country
I don't think TCU is as good as OSU, Texas, or Tech. I'm not saying our schedule is easy, but everyone plays the same round robin, and I'd rather play the best teams at home. I wouldn't trade our Big 12 schedule with anyone else's.
This is absurd, WVU plays every ranked B12 team at home other than TX. They are also one of the half of the conference that only has 4 confy road games.
Austin, Lubbock, and Stillwater are all very difficult places to play. I would have traded that for Norman, Morgantown, Ft. Worth, and Waco, but now that Norman is out of the equation, I would not.
alternatively, we only get 1 ranked conference opponent at home and play 5 conference road games. 60% of the conference is ranked.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
we know the conference is tough, jesus christ...
are you reading the posts listing ISU and WVU as layups? jesus christ...
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
No one listens because its a bad take. They very well may be overrated, not sure how they didn't get wide media criticism after that performance against Maryland, but overrated is far far far from "not good," they are undoubtedly good.
no, it's a great take. you're a jerk!
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I think that we have by far the easiest remaining schedule in the Big 12. We just don't have any difficult road games left. All of our toughest games are at home. If we are truly a title contender, our schedule sets up perfectly.
parody post?
No. Look at the schedule. I like our chances on the road at ISU, WVU, and Baylor much more than I would like them at OSU, Texas, and Tech. The only possible way to make our schedule easier would be to play WVU at home and KU on the road. Our schedule would suck if we were some crappy team hoping to win 6 games and get bowl eligible, but for a championship contender, it's perfect.
ok, now throw out ISU (or keep them, we do go there) and add the number 14 team in the country
I don't think TCU is as good as OSU, Texas, or Tech. I'm not saying our schedule is easy, but everyone plays the same round robin, and I'd rather play the best teams at home. I wouldn't trade our Big 12 schedule with anyone else's.
This is absurd, WVU plays every ranked B12 team at home other than TX. They are also one of the half of the conference that only has 4 confy road games.
Austin, Lubbock, and Stillwater are all very difficult places to play. I would have traded that for Norman, Morgantown, Ft. Worth, and Waco, but now that Norman is out of the equation, I would not.
alternatively, we only get 1 ranked conference opponent at home and play 5 conference road games. 60% of the conference is ranked.
There is a pretty good chance that both OSU and Tech will be ranked by the time we play them.
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Coming into the season every one of us would have been okay with 10-2 or 9-3. To get to those marks we had to win at least 3 of these games. @ OU, @WVU, OSU, @TCU, UT. We've won 1 of these games, not two or three. Nothing has changed, we're on the way but have plenty of work to do, not to mention having to navigate trap games like @ISU and hosting TT.
I'll revisit my stance after flood aggy and coal aggy.
Yeah if anything we need to set this discussion aside for three or four weeks
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
see, this is what I was trying to get at. like, right now, we just got over one of like 5 major hurdles. and the "minor" hurdles aren't really that minor, save for ku.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
see, this is what I was trying to get at. like, right now, we just got over one of like 5 major hurdles. and the "minor" hurdles aren't really that minor, save for ku.
we know the conference is tough, jesus christ...
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
see, this is what I was trying to get at. like, right now, we just got over one of like 5 major hurdles. and the "minor" hurdles aren't really that minor, save for ku.
we know the conference is tough, jesus christ...
Yeah, so like I was wondering if people thought we can reasonably expect to win based off what we’ve done. But there appears to be others that don’t think that games like @ ISU are going to be dogfights. And even TT @ home and OSU @ home will be tough. The point or the question, is that we don’t have the talent to just mark it down and beating OU required us to execute probably better than we had (given the competition) and OU wetting itself. So, was it a flash? A perfect storm of variables that went in our favor? Or an reasonable expectation of performance?
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Dream schedule this year for any team in the B12 (obviously you remove the team you are looking at)
Home
UT
WV
OU
KSU
OSU
Road
KU
TCU
Baylor
Tech
ISU
Does anyone have this schedule this year? No, but you know who has a pretty good schedule?
Tech:
Home: OU, WV, UT, KU, Baylor
Away: ISU, TCU, KSU, OSU
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Dream schedule this year for any team in the B12 (obviously you remove the team you are looking at)
Home
UT
WV
OU
KSU
OSU
Road
KU
TCU
Baylor
Tech
ISU
Does anyone have this schedule this year? No, but you know who has a pretty good schedule?
Tech:
Home: OU, WV, UT, KU, Baylor
Away: ISU, TCU, KSU, OSU
that's got 1-8, 2-7 written all over it. 3-6 at best.
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Dream schedule this year for any team in the B12 (obviously you remove the team you are looking at)
Home
UT
WV
OU
KSU
OSU
Road
KU
TCU
Baylor
Tech
ISU
Does anyone have this schedule this year? No, but you know who has a pretty good schedule?
Tech:
Home: OU, WV, UT, KU, Baylor
Away: ISU, TCU, KSU, OSU
that's got 1-8, 2-7 written all over it. 3-6 at best.
Well ignore the fact that it's TTU. Just look at how the home/away worked out for them. Unreal to get OU/WV/UT all at home.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
see, this is what I was trying to get at. like, right now, we just got over one of like 5 major hurdles. and the "minor" hurdles aren't really that minor, save for ku.
we know the conference is tough, jesus christ...
Yeah, so like I was wondering if people thought we can reasonably expect to win based off what we’ve done. But there appears to be others that don’t think that games like @ ISU are going to be dogfights. And even TT @ home and OSU @ home will be tough. The point or the question, is that we don’t have the talent to just mark it down and beating OU required us to execute probably better than we had (given the competition) and OU wetting itself. So, was it a flash? A perfect storm of variables that went in our favor? Or an reasonable expectation of performance?
The conference is hard, but everyone plays the same schedule, we are clearly the best team at this point, and we have already won what was by far the most difficult game on the schedule. 11-1 should be enough to win the conference outright and 10-2 will probably be good enough to share the title. If you asked "should we expect to win out and go to the national championship game?" I would say no. We should expect to win the Big 12, though. We have the best team and everyone else has the same schedule we do, plus they still have to play OU.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
we know the conference is tough, jesus christ...
are you reading the posts listing ISU and WVU as layups? jesus christ...
isu is a layup. nuts kicked is trolling you on wvu.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
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Have played a crap schedule. Agreed on the overrated part.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
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Have played a crap schedule. Agreed on the overrated part.
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You guys are setting up the meltdown by not giving these teams the proper due. Did you see that game last night. Washington was completely out manned by Stanford. UW couldn't do a damn thing with the ball, yet they managed to find a way to win at home. We're a damn good football but we are not good enough & our opponents aren't bad enough to start counting wins. Alabama can, they are good and their schedule is awful.
see, this is what I was trying to get at. like, right now, we just got over one of like 5 major hurdles. and the "minor" hurdles aren't really that minor, save for ku.
we know the conference is tough, jesus christ...
Yeah, so like I was wondering if people thought we can reasonably expect to win based off what we’ve done. But there appears to be others that don’t think that games like @ ISU are going to be dogfights. And even TT @ home and OSU @ home will be tough. The point or the question, is that we don’t have the talent to just mark it down and beating OU required us to execute probably better than we had (given the competition) and OU wetting itself. So, was it a flash? A perfect storm of variables that went in our favor? Or an reasonable expectation of performance?
The conference is hard, but everyone plays the same schedule, we are clearly the best team at this point, and we have already won what was by far the most difficult game on the schedule. 11-1 should be enough to win the conference outright and 10-2 will probably be good enough to share the title. If you asked "should we expect to win out and go to the national championship game?" I would say no. We should expect to win the Big 12, though. We have the best team and everyone else has the same schedule we do, plus they still have to play OU.
pretty much agree with this, the only departure for me is that beating OU doesn't change the likelihood of winning or losing the other tough games & the trap games. OU was never thought to be that much better than everyone else. I always looked at the top 4 teams in the conference as a toss them in a hat type of group.
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wait until everyone gets a couple conference games under their belt, then we can really know what to expect.
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So, is it reasonable to expect a conference championship this year? Or is that still a whisper? I mean, we executed probably as well as we could have hoped to against OU, coupled with OU just wetting the bed. We’ve looked good/above good against Miami and OU, but average/below average against MoSt and N Texas.
Our remaining schedule seems ridiculously tough.
So, is it reasonable to expect a conference championship this year? Absolutely. This is a very good football team. It's a highly efficient and difficult offense to stop that will put points on the board. An offense that also won't face a better front 7 on defense the rest of the way other than Texas (which is a home game). It is a defense that starts 9 seniors, stubborn against the run, and has a good enough pass rushing set up front. Special teams are going to be good.
Or is that still a whisper? Only if the whisper is at a screaming volume.
Our remaining schedule seems ridiculously tough. - I'm no longer buying this notion. TCU has a LOT of very young players it puts on the field. West Virginia has a lot of weaknesses to exploit in their defense. OSU is starting a not only a freshman at signal caller but the #2 freshman. Iowa State struggles to move and score the ball.
Texas is the biggest challenge on the schedule remaining. And they are going to be a b*tch to face because they are the one team that is getting great line play on both sides of the ball.
I will say this about your comment concerning we executed about as well as we could against OU. I think we left a few plays on the field offensively. I would say that OU played outstanding defensively in that game. Sure, they left plays on the field offensively but they are not as consistent as we are on that side of the ball.
I'm not drinking kool-aid, people. We have a very good team this year.
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We're going to play 8 of the top 30 or 35 teams this year, some at home, some on the road. We already beat one of the best on the road. To act like there is some huge gulf between OSU and TCU or Texas and West Virginia or TTech and Iowa State is speculative at best, and plain wrong at worst.
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So, is it reasonable to expect a conference championship this year? Or is that still a whisper? I mean, we executed probably as well as we could have hoped to against OU, coupled with OU just wetting the bed. We’ve looked good/above good against Miami and OU, but average/below average against MoSt and N Texas.
Our remaining schedule seems ridiculously tough.
So, is it reasonable to expect a conference championship this year? Absolutely. This is a very good football team. It's a highly efficient and difficult offense to stop that will put points on the board. An offense that also won't face a better front 7 on defense the rest of the way other than Texas (which is a home game). It is a defense that starts 9 seniors, stubborn against the run, and has a good enough pass rushing set up front. Special teams are going to be good.
Or is that still a whisper? Only if the whisper is at a screaming volume.
Our remaining schedule seems ridiculously tough. - I'm no longer buying this notion. TCU has a LOT of very young players it puts on the field. West Virginia has a lot of weaknesses to exploit in their defense. OSU is starting a not only a freshman at signal caller but the #2 freshman. Iowa State struggles to move and score the ball.
Texas is the biggest challenge on the schedule remaining. And they are going to be a b*tch to face because they are the one team that is getting great line play on both sides of the ball.
I will say this about your comment concerning we executed about as well as we could against OU. I think we left a few plays on the field offensively. I would say that OU played outstanding defensively in that game. Sure, they left plays on the field offensively but they are not as consistent as we are on that side of the ball.
I'm not drinking kool-aid, people. We have a very good team this year.
There are very good teams that don't win conference championships 'hatter, happens every year in good conferences. Last season the Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12 had top 10 teams that didn't win their conference. The national champion didn't win their division. You can be a great team and not win a conference title. Maybe we have different definitions of the word expect :dunno:
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
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I really have faith this team could win all of them. Seriously. I'm not going to be at all surprised if Texas or WVU or even OSU gets us, but 10 win minimum is still my expectation, and as _Fan said, a 7-2 confy will most likely be enough for a share of the Dr. Pepper.
I really don't see this team, with as disciplined as they play, losing to ISU, Tech, Baylor, or kansas. I'm counting those as wins right now. Not sure what TCU is.
I expect to be Big XII champs (possibly shared)
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I don't see how anyone can say we're clearly the best team in the conference.
We beat a decent OU team, that's lost 4 out its last 7 conference games. :surprised:
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I really have faith this team could win all of them. Seriously. I'm not going to be at all surprised if Texas or WVU or even OSU gets us
wow, bold stance here CF3
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OU team, that's lost 4 out its last 7 conference games. :surprised:
good stat
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
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I really have faith this team could win all of them. Seriously. I'm not going to be at all surprised if Texas or WVU or even OSU gets us
wow, bold stance here CF3
:lol: Yeah that was bad. What I meant was I believe we CAN win them all, yet a loss to UT, WVU, or OSU won't shock me. My EXPECTATION is a share of the Dr. Pep.
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
yeah, do I drunkenly recall some "check with me" at one point?
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
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I really have faith this team could win all of them. Seriously. I'm not going to be at all surprised if Texas or WVU or even OSU gets us
wow, bold stance here CF3
:lol: Yeah that was bad. What I meant was I believe we CAN win them all, yet a loss to UT, WVU, or OSU won't shock me. My EXPECTATION is a share of the Dr. Pep.
so what you're saying is that we can go undefeated but we can also lose one or two? :emawkid:
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Great thread. Has totally paid for my premium subscription for the week
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I really have faith this team could win all of them. Seriously. I'm not going to be at all surprised if Texas or WVU or even OSU gets us
wow, bold stance here CF3
:lol: Yeah that was bad. What I meant was I believe we CAN win them all, yet a loss to UT, WVU, or OSU won't shock me. My EXPECTATION is a share of the Dr. Pep.
so what you're saying is that we can go undefeated but we can also lose one or two? :emawkid:
Capable of 12-0. I expect 10-2 and a Dr. Pep.
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
Someone w/ HFBIQ -- why didn't we go for the second fourth and short in the 3Q? Was it an issue of not liking the look that the defense gave, or what?
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
It was clear that it was his intent to play it very close to the vest and loosen as the game progressed. I would have preferred we didn't do that but we won so...
Also I don't think those third down play calls took much courage, we had no shot in converting them with runs, running in either case would have been the ultimate "playing not to lose." IMO the full credit for those plays should be with the execution of them.
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We will lose at least 2 games between TCU, OSU, UT, and WVU... We will lose one between TT, BU, and ISU. 3 losses kids. Phil Steele isn't Phil Steele because he's stupid. :nono:
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We will lose at least 2 games between TCU, OSU, UT, and WVU... We will lose one between TT, BU, and ISU. 3 losses kids. Phil Steele isn't Phil Steele because he's stupid. :nono:
Take it back or I'll tell Amanda
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
Someone w/ HFBIQ -- why didn't we go for the second fourth and short in the 3Q? Was it an issue of not liking the look that the defense gave, or what?
There isn't anyone with a high enough FB IQ to explain the schemes of :bill:
He had his reasons and I'm satisfied with them, even if I can't fully understand them
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
It was clear that it was his intent to play it very close to the vest and loosen as the game progressed. I would have preferred we didn't do that but we won so...
Also I don't think those third down play calls took much courage, we had no shot in converting them with runs, running in either case would have been the ultimate "playing not to lose." IMO the full credit for those plays should be with the execution of them.
I thought all the long shots down the sideline on 3rd & 4 and 3rd & 6 were pretty crappy. Would have much preferred a draw, play action, TE dump, screen, reverse, etc. We just arent going to complete many fades down the sideline. Especially against corners as good as OU's.
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Coming into the season every one of us would have been okay with 10-2 or 9-3. To get to those marks we had to win at least 3 of these games. @ OU, @WVU, OSU, @TCU, UT. We've won 1 of these games, not two or three. Nothing has changed, we're on the way but have plenty of work to do, not to mention having to navigate trap games like @ISU and hosting TT.
I'll revisit my stance after flood aggy and coal aggy.
nothing has changed since the begining of the season? that's weird, i thought we were in week 5. a lot has changed, namely how much information we have about the teams.
eta- i'm not saying we're going to run the table, because I still think we're going to have a couple of N Texas type performances
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Hey dumbasses, we took last year's conference champ to the wire on the road, and we're better this year. We'll be fine.
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
Someone w/ HFBIQ -- why didn't we go for the second fourth and short in the 3Q? Was it an issue of not liking the look that the defense gave, or what?
It was a full yard to go, as opposed to just a few inches like the previous one, which is much, much harder to convert. I'm not sure why we blew the timeout if we were going to take a penalty and then punt though. That seemed silly.
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Hey dumbasses, we took last year's conference champ to the wire on the road, and we're better this year. We'll be fine.
And we'll be fine with 9-3. That's where we'll end up.
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as chingon mentioned, this schedule is the hardest bill has ever faced. hard to fathom getting through it but, man, maybe. WVU has a pretty pud schedule the rest of the way. their only road games of any substance are @TX and @OSU. They get us, OU, TCU and Baylor at home.
Everyone cheer your taints off for Baylor tonight.
Midnight Yell practice?
it's almost like pete didn't even read my "race for the b12 championship" thread where i broke down every important conference game including time and channel. it's like sometimes i just have to say why do i even bother? you'd be better off building model trains rick daris is what i sometimes think.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=23050.0
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No one knows percentages better than LHCBS. He'd probably curb stomp you in poker. I'd fold every goddamn time.
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
Someone w/ HFBIQ -- why didn't we go for the second fourth and short in the 3Q? Was it an issue of not liking the look that the defense gave, or what?
It was a full yard to go, as opposed to just a few inches like the previous one, which is much, much harder to convert. I'm not sure why we blew the timeout if we were going to take a penalty and then punt though. That seemed silly.
I guess this was my question. Why waste the timeout if you knew you wanted to punt anyway. Can't you try to draw them offsides without using a timeout. I'll stop nitpicking and shut up
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We will lose at least 2 games between TCU, OSU, UT, and WVU... We will lose one between TT, BU, and ISU. 3 losses kids. Phil Steele isn't Phil Steele because he's stupid. :nono:
Finishing 9-3 would still make Phil Steele look Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
If there ever was an example of him trusting his players, it was the 2nd half though. Going for 4th and 1 in our own territory, the play calls on the 3rd & 11 and 3rd & 12 etc.
Someone w/ HFBIQ -- why didn't we go for the second fourth and short in the 3Q? Was it an issue of not liking the look that the defense gave, or what?
It was a full yard to go, as opposed to just a few inches like the previous one, which is much, much harder to convert. I'm not sure why we blew the timeout if we were going to take a penalty and then punt though. That seemed silly.
I guess this was my question. Why waste the timeout if you knew you wanted to punt anyway. Can't you try to draw them offsides without using a timeout. I'll stop nitpicking and shut up
maybe OB watched a replay of the first sneak when the oline got zero push during the time out and changed his mind
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We are going to crush Iowa State. They are just awful.
yes, by 3 TD's.
The idiots harping on the "you can't win close games forever and ever" talking point were essentially correct. Where they got that crap wrong was in their thinking we'd continue playing nothing but close games this year -- they didn't allow for K-State improvement. If this is an improved team, as we believe, the Cats have a few more blowouts left in them ... and the next two games are prime candidates.
The only game on the schedule I'm worrying about is Texas. They might be better than us. Everyone else is worse.
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Coming into the season every one of us would have been okay with 10-2 or 9-3. To get to those marks we had to win at least 3 of these games. @ OU, @WVU, OSU, @TCU, UT. We've won 1 of these games, not two or three. Nothing has changed, we're on the way but have plenty of work to do, not to mention having to navigate trap games like @ISU and hosting TT.
I'll revisit my stance after flood aggy and coal aggy.
nothing has changed since the begining of the season? that's weird, i thought we were in week 5. a lot has changed, namely how much information we have about the teams.
yes fuckhead, that is exactly the context in which that should have been taken
Nothing has changed as far as the games we thought would be tough to win. Unless you went into the season thinking K-State had no shot at all to beat OU, we are still at the status quo for the most part as to what we think of the top 5 or 6 teams in the conference.
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Unless you went into the season thinking K-State had no shot at all to beat OU
I think this describes just about everyone. It took the Miami beatdown and OU looking weak against UTEP before I would even consider the possibility.
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Unless you went into the season thinking K-State had no shot at all to beat OU
I think this describes just about everyone. It took the Miami beatdown and OU looking weak against UTEP before I would even consider the possibility.
This. Not even that cheesedick Dlew thought we would beat OU. Everything has changed. That one game altered the Universe.
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Coming into the season every one of us would have been okay with 10-2 or 9-3. To get to those marks we had to win at least 3 of these games. @ OU, @WVU, OSU, @TCU, UT. We've won 1 of these games, not two or three. Nothing has changed, we're on the way but have plenty of work to do, not to mention having to navigate trap games like @ISU and hosting TT.
I'll revisit my stance after flood aggy and coal aggy.
nothing has changed since the begining of the season? that's weird, i thought we were in week 5. a lot has changed, namely how much information we have about the teams.
yes fuckhead, that is exactly the context in which that should have been taken
Nothing has changed as far as the games we thought would be tough to win. Unless you went into the season thinking K-State had no shot at all to beat OU, we are still at the status quo for the most part as to what we think of the top 5 or 6 teams in the conference.
fuckhead! i was agreeing with your overall point you horrendous fuckhead!
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:lol:
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
I’m assuming by “trusted” that you mean “throw the ball”? Maybe I’m naïve, but I thought the first half was body shots. He began trying to throw some haymaker-ish punches when he felt he needed to and/or the opportunity presented itself in the second half. I dunno. If anything, I thought in the first half there were series in which I began asking myself “so, we’re a throwing team?”. I didn’t agree at all on the calls inside the 15/10 when we settled for a FG.
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That first punt on 4th and short set the tone that Bill was just going to play conservative mistake-free football, make sure the defense keeps the ball in front of them, and ensure that our superior talent wins the line of scrimmage and field position battle while we capitalized on any turnovers that came our way.
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Unless you went into the season thinking K-State had no shot at all to beat OU
I think this describes just about everyone. It took the Miami beatdown and OU looking weak against UTEP before I would even consider the possibility.
This. Not even that cheesedick Dlew thought we would beat OU. Everything has changed. That one game altered the Universe.
I didn't say anything about thinking we would beat OU, I said thinking we would have a chance. The point once again being that among the top teams in this conference there isn't any one markedly better than the other. Going to Norman isn't significantly tougher than going to Morgantown, Manhattan, Austin, or Stillwater for that matter. We're the favorite now because we had the luxury of winning one of these games first, not because we showed anything that makes us uniquely qualified to win the rest of them by just showing up.
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Unless you went into the season thinking K-State had no shot at all to beat OU
I think this describes just about everyone. It took the Miami beatdown and OU looking weak against UTEP before I would even consider the possibility.
This. Not even that cheesedick Dlew thought we would beat OU. Everything has changed. That one game altered the Universe.
I didn't say anything about thinking we would beat OU, I said thinking we would have a chance. The point once again being that among the top teams in this conference there isn't any one markedly better than the other. Going to Norman isn't significantly tougher than going to Morgantown, Manhattan, Austin, or Stillwater for that matter. We're the favorite now because we had the luxury of winning one of these games first, not because we showed anything that makes us uniquely qualified to win the rest of them by just showing up.
Before the game in Norman I thought there were games that we would lose if the other team showed up. So that win changed my confidence as a fan. I agree that the schedule is brutal and everyone is good.
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I don't think we executed as well as we could have against OU. Don't get me wrong, we played mistake free. But in terms of our best game, I don't think that was our ceiling. Just my opinion.
didn't love the 1st half play calling, I thought :bill: fell into his old trap of not trusting his players
I’m assuming by “trusted” that you mean “throw the ball”? Maybe I’m naïve, but I thought the first half was body shots. He began trying to throw some haymaker-ish punches when he felt he needed to and/or the opportunity presented itself in the second half. I dunno. If anything, I thought in the first half there were series in which I began asking myself “so, we’re a throwing team?”. I didn’t agree at all on the calls inside the 15/10 when we settled for a FG.
By trusting his team I mean something other than Hubert runs between the tackle and fades on 2nd & 3rd and long. It seems to me that the game plan was to stay in it in the 1st half and then go with it in the 2nd. OUs inability to cash in, thanks front 7, and John Hubert's ability to gain positive yardage saved us from being down about 17-3 at the half. We wouldn't have come back from that. Not sure that game plan will work against WVU. I see that game somewhat similar to OSU last year. We'll need plenty of points to win, but they will be there for the taking. Just hope we start aggressive & stay that way.
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Unless you went into the season thinking K-State had no shot at all to beat OU
I think this describes just about everyone. It took the Miami beatdown and OU looking weak against UTEP before I would even consider the possibility.
This. Not even that cheesedick Dlew thought we would beat OU. Everything has changed. That one game altered the Universe.
I didn't say anything about thinking we would beat OU, I said thinking we would have a chance. The point once again being that among the top teams in this conference there isn't any one markedly better than the other. Going to Norman isn't significantly tougher than going to Morgantown, Manhattan, Austin, or Stillwater for that matter. We're the favorite now because we had the luxury of winning one of these games first, not because we showed anything that makes us uniquely qualified to win the rest of them by just showing up.
Before the game in Norman I thought there were games that we would lose if the other team showed up. So that win changed my confidence as a fan. I agree that the schedule is brutal and everyone is good.
I take it back, one thing among the top teams has changed in my eyes; OUs lines are really bad, they've been exposed.
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At this point, IMO, compared to the beginning of the season, TCU looks very winnable (a should win), OSU looks like a for sure win, WVU looks winnable (will win unless we crap the bed), and UT looks much more difficult, even considering the series history.
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At this point, IMO, compared to the beginning of the season, TCU looks very winnable (a should win), OSU looks like a for sure win, WVU looks winnable (will win unless we crap the bed), and UT looks much more difficult, even considering the series history.
I agree with everything except for OSU being a for sure win. I see their game with Texas on Saturday as a toss up, despite Lunt being out, and if they pull off the W, people will be changing their tune about them really quick. I'm just glad we have them at home.
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At this point, IMO, compared to the beginning of the season, TCU looks very winnable (a should win), OSU looks like a for sure win, WVU looks winnable (will win unless we crap the bed), and UT looks much more difficult, even considering the series history.
I agree with everything except for OSU being a for sure win. I see their game with Texas on Saturday as a toss up, despite Lunt being out, and if they pull off the W, people will be changing their tune about them really quick. I'm just glad we have them at home.
I'm assuming we would have owned a freshman QB (at home, minus Blackmon), and assuming we would really own his backup. Agree that those may not be fair assumptions, but that's how I'm going forward until I decide otherwise.
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I really don't think TCU is that good. Admittedly, I only watched about a half of the Virginia game, but they did not impress me. Also, 20-6 is nothing to write home about. I think they are at best a 4-5 team in the Big XII this year. Texas, WVU, KSU, OU, and at least one of OSU, ISU and Baylor will beat them.
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At this point, IMO, compared to the beginning of the season, TCU looks very winnable (a should win), OSU looks like a for sure win, WVU looks winnable (will win unless we crap the bed), and UT looks much more difficult, even considering the series history.
Other than you making OSU a gimmie, completely ridiculous BTW, you aren't saying anything different than anyone else. Did you not think TCU, WVU, and UT were "winnable" before last Saturday?
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At this point, IMO, compared to the beginning of the season, TCU looks very winnable (a should win), OSU looks like a for sure win, WVU looks winnable (will win unless we crap the bed), and UT looks much more difficult, even considering the series history.
I agree with everything except for OSU being a for sure win. I see their game with Texas on Saturday as a toss up, despite Lunt being out, and if they pull off the W, people will be changing their tune about them really quick. I'm just glad we have them at home.
I'm assuming we would have owned a freshman QB (at home, minus Blackmon), and assuming we would really own his backup. Agree that those may not be fair assumptions, but that's how I'm going forward until I decide otherwise.
I think Lunt will be back by the time we play them, fwiw.
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At this point, IMO, compared to the beginning of the season, TCU looks very winnable (a should win), OSU looks like a for sure win, WVU looks winnable (will win unless we crap the bed), and UT looks much more difficult, even considering the series history.
Agree that UT is going to be the toughest game. Thankfully we get them at home on SR. day after a bye week. I also think TCU and ISU are going to be hard based on how they play. Think North Texas with more talent.
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
Just like OU? Color me not scared :bill:
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
Just like OU? Color me not scared :bill:
and OU had a bye week. I know. but it still scares me.
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
I think UT will beat them before we get to town
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
They would have to win at DKR next weekend to hold serve, so yeah, I would be scared shitless if that actually happens. I have a feeling Texas will make them look like Ole Miss, though.
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At this point, IMO, compared to the beginning of the season, TCU looks very winnable (a should win), OSU looks like a for sure win, WVU looks winnable (will win unless we crap the bed), and UT looks much more difficult, even considering the series history.
:thumbs: Texas is very, very good!
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
I have a feeling Texas will make them look like Ole Miss, though.
:rolleyes:
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i think that we are going to win it all
so my answer is !
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
They would have to win at DKR next weekend to hold serve, so yeah, I would be scared shitless if that actually happens. I have a feeling Texas will make them look like Ole Miss, though.
Yep. :cheers:
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WVU doesn't scare me themselves, they are a very good team but I don't think they are any better than OU. I believe us at our best would beat them at theirs. But, the fact that we play them on national TV, at their place, at night, with gameday in town (if we both hold serve until then) scares the crap out of me.
They would have to win at DKR next weekend to hold serve, so yeah, I would be scared shitless if that actually happens. I have a feeling Texas will make them look like Ole Miss, though.
Yep. :cheers:
Oh, and by the way, they'll do the same to OSU. :excited:
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Assuming WV takes care of Baylor, is gameday not going to be in Austin next week? Because, if it is, it won't be in Morgantown the following week. In which case, you can rest easy SD
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Assuming WV takes care of Baylor, is gameday not going to be in Austin next week? Because, if it is, it won't be in Morgantown the following week. In which case, you can rest easy SD
Between OU vs. KSU, WVU vs. UT, KSU vs. WVU, and OU vs. UT in close proximity its going to be quite difficult for Gameday to avoid these games.
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Gameday won't be in Morgantown on the 20th. It will be in Manhattan on Dec 1st though. Im really scared that the Texas game will be against two undefeated teams playing for the Big 12 and a spot in the NC game. And that we lose a heart breaker...again, only this time :bill: has a heart attack and dies on the field.
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Gameday won't be in Morgantown on the 20th. It will be in Manhattan on Dec 1st though. Im really scared that the Texas game will be against two undefeated teams playing for the Big 12 and a spot in the NC game. And that we lose a heart breaker...again, only this time :bill: has a heart attack and dies on the field.
We win, Bill still has a heart attack, and passes with a smile on his face at midfield, and just as he goes he hands the game plan for Alabama to Sean. And you know the rest.
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Gameday won't be in Morgantown on the 20th. It will be in Manhattan on Dec 1st though. Im really scared that the Texas game will be against two undefeated teams playing for the Big 12 and a spot in the NC game. And that we lose a heart breaker...again, only this time :bill: has a heart attack and dies on the field.
I just don't see anything else good on the 20th. some meh SEC games. FSU @ Miami? 12/1 is all the confy championship games so I can't see that being it unless our game is for sure for the B12, has NC implications and there isn't much else of importance. hard to believe the SEC championship wouldn't get it.
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Isn't Dec 1st the week of the Confy Champ games? No way they come to MHK. ESPN hates us.
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We are going to be playing in the NC game and unlike OU in 03 and Bama last year we aren't going to get there not winning our conference
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Gameday won't be in Morgantown on the 20th. It will be in Manhattan on Dec 1st though. Im really scared that the Texas game will be against two undefeated teams playing for the Big 12 and a spot in the NC game. And that we lose a heart breaker...again, only this time :bill: has a heart attack and dies on the field.
I just don't see anything else good on the 20th. some meh SEC games. FSU @ Miami? 12/1 is all the confy championship games so I can't see that being it unless our game is for sure for the B12, has NC implications and there isn't much else of importance. hard to believe the SEC championship wouldn't get it.
I was going off of the fact that I think WVU will have one if not two losses by then. But if there isn't anything else going on then even with a 1 loss WVU team Gameday might still come.
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Isn't Dec 1st the week of the Confy Champ games? No way they come to MHK. ESPN hates us.
i always thought the week of the confy champ games they didn't go anywhere and just broadcasted from the studios? :dunno:
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Isn't Dec 1st the week of the Confy Champ games? No way they come to MHK. ESPN hates us.
i always thought the week of the confy champ games they didn't go anywhere and just broadcasted from the studios? :dunno:
They broadcasted from the OU KSU conference championship game in 03, didnt they? :dunno:
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Isn't Dec 1st the week of the Confy Champ games? No way they come to MHK. ESPN hates us.
i always thought the week of the confy champ games they didn't go anywhere and just broadcasted from the studios? :dunno:
They broadcasted from the OU KSU conference championship game in 03, didnt they? :dunno:
No, they didn't, they were at the studio. They were at the '00 Dr. Pep though. They did gameday from the SEC championship the last couple of years.
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I don't care if OU is "having a down year", @OU was the toughest game on our schedule. Even if it was a mental thing. I can't remember the last time that I thought we could win every game on our schedule. We can do that this year. Last year when won every game that we were capable of except for @OSU. This year's team would beat last year's team 10 out of 10 times (I was going to say we'd crush last year's team, but we all know it'd be within 7-10 points everytime because of Snyderball on both sides). To expect more than 1 loss the rest of the way is ridiculous. I think we have over 50% chance of winning every game on the rest of our schedule. If you add them all up kenpom style, I think odds are that we have 1 loss. But as for me, I'm predicting undefeated. Because I can. And if you're a fan, you should be too.
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I don't care if OU is "having a down year", @OU was the toughest game on our schedule. Even if it was a mental thing. I can't remember the last time that I thought we could win every game on our schedule. We can do that this year. Last year when won every game that we were capable of except for @OSU. This year's team would beat last year's team 10 out of 10 times (I was going to say we'd crush last year's team, but we all know it'd be within 7-10 points everytime because of Snyderball on both sides). To expect more than 1 loss the rest of the way is ridiculous. I think we have over 50% chance of winning every game on the rest of our schedule. If you add them all up kenpom style, I think odds are that we have 1 loss. But as for me, I'm predicting undefeated. Because I can. And if you're a fan, you should be too.
:thumbs:
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I don't care if OU is "having a down year", @OU was the toughest game on our schedule. Even if it was a mental thing. I can't remember the last time that I thought we could win every game on our schedule. We can do that this year. Last year when won every game that we were capable of except for @OSU. This year's team would beat last year's team 10 out of 10 times (I was going to say we'd crush last year's team, but we all know it'd be within 7-10 points everytime because of Snyderball on both sides). To expect more than 1 loss the rest of the way is ridiculous. I think we have over 50% chance of winning every game on the rest of our schedule. If you add them all up kenpom style, I think odds are that we have 1 loss. But as for me, I'm predicting undefeated. Because I can. And if you're a fan, you should be too.
This is a good post but compare our schedule last year to this year. It's ridiculous. As chings pointed out, this would be Snyder's greatest season ever to get 10 wins. We've never had a conference schedule like this.
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I mean, we are replacing lower half conference schools MU and aTm with two top 15 teams this year....and we play them both on the road. And we only had 4 conference road games last year and we have 5 this year.
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I don't care if OU is "having a down year", @OU was the toughest game on our schedule. Even if it was a mental thing. I can't remember the last time that I thought we could win every game on our schedule. We can do that this year. Last year when won every game that we were capable of except for @OSU. This year's team would beat last year's team 10 out of 10 times (I was going to say we'd crush last year's team, but we all know it'd be within 7-10 points everytime because of Snyderball on both sides). To expect more than 1 loss the rest of the way is ridiculous. I think we have over 50% chance of winning every game on the rest of our schedule. If you add them all up kenpom style, I think odds are that we have 1 loss. But as for me, I'm predicting undefeated. Because I can. And if you're a fan, you should be too.
I got chills
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I don't care if OU is "having a down year", @OU was the toughest game on our schedule. Even if it was a mental thing. I can't remember the last time that I thought we could win every game on our schedule. We can do that this year. Last year when won every game that we were capable of except for @OSU. This year's team would beat last year's team 10 out of 10 times (I was going to say we'd crush last year's team, but we all know it'd be within 7-10 points everytime because of Snyderball on both sides). To expect more than 1 loss the rest of the way is ridiculous. I think we have over 50% chance of winning every game on the rest of our schedule. If you add them all up kenpom style, I think odds are that we have 1 loss. But as for me, I'm predicting undefeated. Because I can. And if you're a fan, you should be too.
This is a good post but compare our schedule last year to this year. It's ridiculous. As chings pointed out, this would be Snyder's greatest season ever to get 10 wins, maybe even 9. We've never had a conference schedule like this.
Ironic that you call out Squawkstin Beeks on twitter while you're squawking it up in this thread, no?
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I don't care if OU is "having a down year", @OU was the toughest game on our schedule. Even if it was a mental thing. I can't remember the last time that I thought we could win every game on our schedule. We can do that this year. Last year when won every game that we were capable of except for @OSU. This year's team would beat last year's team 10 out of 10 times (I was going to say we'd crush last year's team, but we all know it'd be within 7-10 points everytime because of Snyderball on both sides). To expect more than 1 loss the rest of the way is ridiculous. I think we have over 50% chance of winning every game on the rest of our schedule. If you add them all up kenpom style, I think odds are that we have 1 loss. But as for me, I'm predicting undefeated. Because I can. And if you're a fan, you should be too.
This is a good post but compare our schedule last year to this year. It's ridiculous. As chings pointed out, this would be Snyder's greatest season ever to get 10 wins, maybe even 9. We've never had a conference schedule like this.
Ironic that you call out Squawkstin Beeks on twitter while you're squawking it up in this thread, no?
not at all, SQUAWKSIE60!
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WHAY IS THAT STEVE DAVE?
well, for starters, I want our fanbase to know how massive of an accomplishment this will actually be. I'm not saying we won't, I'm saying you all need to realize how huge it would be if we did. It would be the crowning achievement on bill's career. BY FAR bigger than anything he's ever accomplished before.
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10 wins would be bill's best season with this schedule. you know what else would be his best season? 12 wins.
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I want to be on record with Jakesie that I believe we will go undefeated.
We beat OU guys!!!!
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this year's schedule is NOT harder than last years imo
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this year's schedule is NOT harder than last years imo
You're nuts, but I'll give you a chance to explain this nonsense.
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2011 OU (when they had broyels) and 2011 OSU are better than any team we face in 2012. the rest of the teams are pretty similar.
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the big12 is nuts this year you guys. just so hard. the second worst team probably/maybe is iowa state. that game is a road game though and they are currently 3-0 with wins over iowa and a 3-1 tulsa team whose only loss was to iowa state. the only gimme is ku. so one big12 game down. one more to go with ku and then not a bad team after that. it's gonna be tough.
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2011 OU (when they had broyels) and 2011 OSU are better than any team we face in 2012. the rest of the teams are pretty similar.
This is probably wrong, but de gustibus and all that
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2011 OU (when they had broyels) and 2011 OSU are better than any team we face in 2012. the rest of the teams are pretty similar.
Kimmy, remember... TEXAS IS VERY, VERY GOOD! JFC, DOESN'T ANYONE REALIZE THIS. :curse:
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Nobody will go through the big 12 undefeated. I'd guess two 1 loss teams. 2 or 3, 2 loss teams.
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2011 OU (when they had broyels) and 2011 OSU are better than any team we face in 2012. the rest of the teams are pretty similar.
So going to WVU and TCU is "pretty similar" to hosting Mizzou & A&M? uh okay :dunno:
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I mean, we are replacing lower half conference schools MU and aTm with two top 15 teams this year....and we play them both on the road. And we only had 4 conference road games last year and we have 5 this year.
I guess I just don't believe that either of those teams will finish in the top 20. They are better than A&M and Mizzou, but 2011 A&M was also a very good team, despite the poor record. This is Bill's hardest schedule, but it's also his best team. We are going to win this conference no sweat.
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guys, wvu is not very good. I keep saying this but no one listens.
this! havent bought into the texas hype either i think they lose tonight
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I think we have over 50% chance of winning every game on the rest of our schedule. If you add them all up kenpom style, I think odds are that we have 1 loss.
Why isn't there a kenpom for football? I would pay whatever kenpom wanted me to pay to look at offensive efficiency and run% and role players and major contributors and win probability and projected scores, oh my