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Title: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: wabash909 on February 16, 2010, 11:26:16 AM
Really.

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Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 11:30:13 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 11:33:08 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: ksuwizard on February 16, 2010, 11:43:34 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Don't you know that whatever Frank says becomes law.  I believe him.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 11:44:29 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Don't you know that whatever Frank says becomes law.  I believe him.

He doesn't say it for you to believe.  Christ people. 
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 11:44:37 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Statements by donors suggesting concerns about the trustworthiness of Currie are difficult for me to get over.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 11:45:27 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

so are 12 year olds whining about it on a message board...
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: KITNfury on February 16, 2010, 11:47:48 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Statements by donors suggesting concerns about the trustworthiness of Currie are difficult for me to get over.
I don't know any important donors, but stories I hear on these boards make me worry too.

Currie doesn't appear to realize it, but his job is hitched to Frank's bumper. When Frank hits the road, Currie is going to get drug out of town behind him.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 11:47:55 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

so are 12 year olds whining about it on a message board...

Here's the thing...

When we have credible reports about significant donors having serious issues with Currie's commitment to retaining Frank Martin, then we have reason to be very concerned.

These donors PAY considerable amounts of money to support KSU.  Currie gets PAID to support KSU.  Who do you believe?  I'll go with the guys with the skin in the game.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: EllToPay on February 16, 2010, 11:49:19 AM
Mikey = Dobbie sock?
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Statements by donors suggesting concerns about the trustworthiness of Currie are difficult for me to get over.
I don't know any important donors, but stories I hear on these boards make me worry too.

Currie doesn't appear to realize it, but his job is hitched to Frank's bumper. When Frank hits the road, Currie is going to get drug out of town behind him.

Currie knows this.


THAT's why he is efforting to portray Frank as the bad guy here.  Currie is going to low ball and slow-play Frank.  When Frank gets fed up with it and leaves for a bigger job, Currie merely announce that "we tried to get a deal done, but Frank wanted more, etc."

It's all very transparent, IMO.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 11:50:47 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

so are 12 year olds whining about it on a message board...

Here's the thing...

When we have credible reports about significant donors having serious issues with Currie's commitment to retaining Frank Martin, then we have reason to be very concerned.

These donors PAY considerable amounts of money to support KSU.  Currie gets PAID to support KSU.  Who do you believe?  I'll go with the guys with the skin in the game.


link?

Third hand my brother's sisters cousin reports are meaningless....if they weren't we'd be cheering on oscar Pearl Tim Floyd Mark Fox instead of Frank and Gary Patterson instead of Bill.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 11:53:42 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

so are 12 year olds whining about it on a message board...

Here's the thing...

When we have credible reports about significant donors having serious issues with Currie's commitment to retaining Frank Martin, then we have reason to be very concerned.

These donors PAY considerable amounts of money to support KSU.  Currie gets PAID to support KSU.  Who do you believe?  I'll go with the guys with the skin in the game.


link?

Third hand my brother's sisters cousin reports are meaningless....if they weren't we'd be cheering on oscar Pearl Tim Floyd Mark Fox instead of Frank and Gary Patterson instead of Bill.

Ya, because those kinds of things are in rough ridin' website links....

Did you read ANY of the posts by Jeff Martin on this subject?  I have met the people that Jeff has spoken with about this.  I've been there when Jeff conversed like old friends with these people.  Jeff's sources are above reproach....this crap is not fabricated.  You can dismiss it if you'd like, but you are doing yourself a disservice.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: KITNfury on February 16, 2010, 11:53:59 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Statements by donors suggesting concerns about the trustworthiness of Currie are difficult for me to get over.
I don't know any important donors, but stories I hear on these boards make me worry too.

Currie doesn't appear to realize it, but his job is hitched to Frank's bumper. When Frank hits the road, Currie is going to get drug out of town behind him.

Currie knows this.


THAT's why he is efforting to portray Frank as the bad guy here.  Currie is going to low ball and slow-play Frank.  When Frank gets fed up with it and leaves for a bigger job, Currie merely announce that "we tried to get a deal done, but Frank wanted more, etc."

It's all very transparent, IMO.
I agree with that. I guess it would have been more accurate had I said "Currie doesn't seem to realize the fanbase isn't as dense as he suspects and he's attached to Frank's bumper regardless of the hows and whys".
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: ksuwizard on February 16, 2010, 11:54:03 AM
You don't let someone like Frank go.  Currie may be a dick and not know how to handle it or try to low ball, but I think that Schulz will do what it takes to retain him.  Currie may be an idiot, I dont think Schulz is much of one.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 11:55:23 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

source/link please.  thanks
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 11:55:47 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Statements by donors suggesting concerns about the trustworthiness of Currie are difficult for me to get over.
I don't know any important donors, but stories I hear on these boards make me worry too.

Currie doesn't appear to realize it, but his job is hitched to Frank's bumper. When Frank hits the road, Currie is going to get drug out of town behind him.

Currie knows this.


THAT's why he is efforting to portray Frank as the bad guy here.  Currie is going to low ball and slow-play Frank.  When Frank gets fed up with it and leaves for a bigger job, Currie merely announce that "we tried to get a deal done, but Frank wanted more, etc."

It's all very transparent, IMO.
I agree with that. I guess it would have been more accurate had I said "Currie doesn't seem to realize the fanbase isn't as dense as he suspects and he's attached to Frank's bumper regardless of the hows and whys".

Mikeyis4dcats does not seem dense or "stupid" to me.  However, Mikey is EXACTLY the type of KSU fan that Currie is counting on...and they are the majority.  Currie knows this.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: KITNfury on February 16, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

Statements by donors suggesting concerns about the trustworthiness of Currie are difficult for me to get over.
I don't know any important donors, but stories I hear on these boards make me worry too.

Currie doesn't appear to realize it, but his job is hitched to Frank's bumper. When Frank hits the road, Currie is going to get drug out of town behind him.

Currie knows this.


THAT's why he is efforting to portray Frank as the bad guy here.  Currie is going to low ball and slow-play Frank.  When Frank gets fed up with it and leaves for a bigger job, Currie merely announce that "we tried to get a deal done, but Frank wanted more, etc."

It's all very transparent, IMO.
I agree with that. I guess it would have been more accurate had I said "Currie doesn't seem to realize the fanbase isn't as dense as he suspects and he's attached to Frank's bumper regardless of the hows and whys".

Mikeyis4dcats does not seem dense or "stupid" to me.  However, Mikey is EXACTLY the type of KSU fan that Currie is counting on...and they are the majority.  Currie knows this.
I hope you're wrong, but fear you're right. It fuckin' blows my mind that people could believe that - if a deal isn't made - that Currie "did everythign he could".
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: catzacker on February 16, 2010, 11:58:29 AM
I think if there is anything that we've learned over the past 20 or so years, it's that KSU administrators and presidents don't shazbot! things up.  It's always good to have blind faith in them.

Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 11:58:34 AM
You don't let someone like Frank go.  Currie may be a dick and not know how to handle it or try to low ball, but I think that Schulz will do what it takes to retain him.  Currie may be an idiot, I dont think Schulz is much of one.

Currie is very far from being an idiot.  I think he's exceptionally bright.  

I also think that he has his sights set on moving up and out of Manhattan, ASAP.  Currie isn't going to do anything that is going to tarnish that little financial flip chart that he walks around with.  By the time Currie lands his next gig, he hopes to have stabilized football to preserve the revenue stream and coasted along on basketball fumes long enough for it to appear viable.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 11:58:56 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

source/link please.  thanks


http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/1176024.html

Quote
His focus is still on basketball, and until the season ends that won't change. Not even the opportunity to extend his current contract, which athletic director John Currie is working to do, can distract him.

"If there is anyone to blame with the whole contract thing right now it's me," Martin said. "I get so entrenched with my team and the next game that I don't put in the time I need to into my contract."

But he's confident a deal will be made.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: wabash909 on February 16, 2010, 11:59:34 AM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

public statements from either party are meaningless.

so are 12 year olds whining about it on a message board...

Here's the thing...

When we have credible reports about significant donors having serious issues with Currie's commitment to retaining Frank Martin, then we have reason to be very concerned.

These donors PAY considerable amounts of money to support KSU.  Currie gets PAID to support KSU.  Who do you believe?  I'll go with the guys with the skin in the game.


link?

Third hand my brother's sisters cousin reports are meaningless....if they weren't we'd be cheering on oscar Pearl Tim Floyd Mark Fox instead of Frank and Gary Patterson instead of Bill.


You honestly think Martin is going to on the radio waves and state that the contract negotaition is at a financial impasse?  You honestly fracking believe that?

The proof is in the pudding.  There isn't a contract.  And if the terms were met that he and his agents have requested, you honestly think that he can't be distracted for an hour to review final language with his attorneys to sign the deal and put all of this behind us?

According to everything I have been told, and from many of those I consider to be legitimate, credible sources, Frank is asking a number, one that will elevate his pay a reasonable amount for he and his assistance and Currie is trying to low ball this deal and has since this summer.









Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2010, 12:00:18 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 12:02:11 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.

Yeah, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.  On the other hand, I've had numerous people tell me he's a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: pike on February 16, 2010, 12:03:17 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.

Yeah, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.  On the other hand, I've had numerous people tell me he's a fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  

At least we know we'll never have a worse duo than Wefald and Krause. They were the biggest retards possible
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
if Frank doesn't have a contract signed by Tax Day, then by al means, break out the pitchforks and torches.  Until then, get over it.

You ever considered that since it appears a major sticking point is reported to be the practice facility, that the AD and Frank both need the continued success of this season to continue to drum up financial support to get it built?       You don't just get millions overnight...it takes months and months of coddling and handholding major donors to ensure they pledge.   Donors that maybe weren't sold on the idea last year are now on the bandwagon, but you've obviously never tried to fundraisie major cash if you think once someone's made up their mind to donate that they just open the checkbook.   Most have an egotistical side that must be stroked and placated until THEY write the check on their terms and timeline.  
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 12:05:46 PM
i don't think running currie out of town will be as satisfying as retaining martin/good bball.  so, i'm not all that concerned about how stupid our fanbase is.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 12:08:19 PM
Bob Krause would've already offered Frank a new contract . . . period, end of discussion.

Bob Krause also would've re-written the books 8 times, killed several people and buried them out in Colbert Hills, and robbed a couple of banks by now to get his Wildcat Victory Campaign going. 

I blame all the dumb $hit Krause did completely on Wefald.



I'm 100% on board with this analysis
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:08:36 PM
i don't think running currie out of town will be as satisfying as retaining martin/good bball.  so, i'm not all that concerned about how stupid our fanbase is.

if you all really think the negotiations are at an impasse, they kindly explain how Frank benefits from continuing to publicly shoulder the blame for the lack of extension?

If Frank wanted to budge someone, a simple no comment would speak loudly.

As it is, the fanbase by and large sees 2 men who know it needs done, and the one who should be crying loudest that it's not is saying it's HIS fault.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Bookcat on February 16, 2010, 12:09:05 PM
Its going to really suck when Frank announces he's gone. I'll be physically ill.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: catzacker on February 16, 2010, 12:11:02 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.

Yeah, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.  On the other hand, I've had numerous people tell me he's a fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  

I'm calling it the Sneefer© syndrome.  Whereby stupid ksu fans honestly believe that because there is a title of authority by a person's name (be it Snyder or Wefald or whomever) that it automatically means that they can never be wrong, even when evdience suggests otherwise.  

I mean, everyone sucked off Wefald...even when it was obvious that this motherf*cker was play monopoly with KSU athletics....everyone loved them some Weiser (short of the hog dog fiasco) even though that guy couldn't f'ing do anything with the football success we had besides build a goddamn baseball field...then everyone loved krause for no other reason than he was named by Wefald so of course you have to trust him...and lastly, everyone f'ing loves snyds, even though he hasn't been to a bowl game in his past three seasons.

what the hell has currie done besides sell $99 football tickets and give two head coaches of non-for-profit sports contract raises/extensions that would lead anyone to believe that he is any good at his job?  

Answer: he has "AD" next to his name.

the irony of the entire situation is that if Krause and Weefer were still running the show, we'd have frank signed....prolly for like 10 million a year.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: wabash909 on February 16, 2010, 12:11:08 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.

Yeah, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.  On the other hand, I've had numerous people tell me he's a fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  

At least we know we'll never have a worse duo than Wefald and Krause. They were the biggest retards possible


Curry & Shultz will go down as the biggest retards in history if they botch this deal and Frank leaves after this season.

No question about it.

And I don't care how many Mikeyis4dcats and the rest of the Wabash Station retards that will try to deflect their culpability in this epic failure should it occur, these clowns will be riden out of town on a rail.



Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:12:43 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.

Yeah, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.  On the other hand, I've had numerous people tell me he's a fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  

At least we know we'll never have a worse duo than Wefald and Krause. They were the biggest retards possible




Curry & Shultz will go down as the biggest retards in history if they botch this deal and Frank leaves after this season.

No question about it.

And I don't care how many Mikeyis4dcats and the rest of the Wabash Station retards that will try to deflect their culpability in this epic failure should it occur, these clowns will be riden out of town on a rail.





 :jerk:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: JMart on February 16, 2010, 12:13:26 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.

Yeah, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.  On the other hand, I've had numerous people tell me he's a fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  

what the hell has currie done besides sell $99 football tickets and give two head coaches of non-for-profit sports contract raises/extensions that would lead anyone to believe that he is any good at his job?  


HE ANSWERS EVERY E-MAIL HE RECEIVES FROM FANS!
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: OK_Cat on February 16, 2010, 12:16:24 PM
guys, leave mikey alone.  he is super stoked about football, and is excited to see OB stay as long as he needs to, in order to win a nat'l championship on the gridiron.   :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 12:17:02 PM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

source/link please.  thanks


http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/1176024.html

Quote
His focus is still on basketball, and until the season ends that won't change. Not even the opportunity to extend his current contract, which athletic director John Currie is working to do, can distract him.

"If there is anyone to blame with the whole contract thing right now it's me," Martin said. "I get so entrenched with my team and the next game that I don't put in the time I need to into my contract."

But he's confident a deal will be made.

i guess you can use Kellis Robinette as your source if that's how you want to portray yourself.  where's your source/link that quotes Frank as saying he doesn't want an extension til end of season.  thanks.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: slimz on February 16, 2010, 12:18:08 PM


Third hand my brother's sisters cousin reports are meaningless....if they weren't we'd be cheering on Gary Patterson instead of Bill.

Correction:  we'd be cheering for Gary Patterson if Weefs and Snyder hadn't decided to screw us over and if Fitz would have put the interests of K-State fans ahead of the interests of his GoPowercat.com advertisements.  But that's not the Fitz way.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 12:18:53 PM
if Frank doesn't have a contract signed by Tax Day, then by al means, break out the pitchforks and torches.  Until then, get over it.

You ever considered that since it appears a major sticking point is reported to be the practice facility, that the AD and Frank both need the continued success of this season to continue to drum up financial support to get it built?       You don't just get millions overnight...it takes months and months of coddling and handholding major donors to ensure they pledge.   Donors that maybe weren't sold on the idea last year are now on the bandwagon, but you've obviously never tried to fundraisie major cash if you think once someone's made up their mind to donate that they just open the checkbook.   Most have an egotistical side that must be stroked and placated until THEY write the check on their terms and timeline.  

I don't disagree with you about the sales cycle for donors.  It's a bitch.

However, it seems to me that every day that is spent low-balling Frank now, is a day closer to Frank being offered an exceptionally better deal else where.....which would likely happen well before mid April.  This crap moves real quick after teams are done playing.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 12:19:11 PM
HE ANSWERS EVERY E-MAIL HE RECEIVES FROM FANS!

the credit he receives for this is literally unbelievable.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
if you all really think the negotiations are at an impasse, they kindly explain how Frank benefits from continuing to publicly shoulder the blame for the lack of extension?

If Frank wanted to budge someone, a simple no comment would speak loudly.

As it is, the fanbase by and large sees 2 men who know it needs done, and the one who should be crying loudest that it's not is saying it's HIS fault.

if he has a desire to remain at kstate, he maintains the longterm goodwill of the fans by appearing to not care about money/not be interested in other jobs.  eventually he'll either get a contract he likes here, or elsewhere, so he loses nothing by maintaining silence now.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:27:32 PM
if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

source/link please.  thanks


http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/1176024.html

Quote
His focus is still on basketball, and until the season ends that won't change. Not even the opportunity to extend his current contract, which athletic director John Currie is working to do, can distract him.

"If there is anyone to blame with the whole contract thing right now it's me," Martin said. "I get so entrenched with my team and the next game that I don't put in the time I need to into my contract."

But he's confident a deal will be made.

i guess you can use Kellis Robinette as your source if that's how you want to portray yourself.  where's your source/link that quotes Frank as saying he doesn't want an extension til end of season.  thanks.

no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

Frank has been very consistent in interviews he's given as reported by Meek, Kellis, and others that he is in no hurry and he is focused on the task at hand.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:29:25 PM


Third hand my brother's sisters cousin reports are meaningless....if they weren't we'd be cheering on Gary Patterson instead of Bill.

Correction:  we'd be cheering for Gary Patterson if Weefs and Snyder hadn't decided to screw us over and if Fitz would have put the interests of K-State fans ahead of the interests of his GoPowercat.com advertisements.  But that's not the Fitz way.

I actually have it on good authority that the deal was dead at Wefald's hands before the Fitz debacle, but it certainly didn't help.    I really wanted Patterson, I remember fist pumping to the radio that afternoon.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:31:32 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 12:32:26 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 12:34:16 PM
I actually have it on good authority that the deal was dead at Wefald's hands before the Fitz debacle, but it certainly didn't help.    I really wanted Patterson, I remember fist pumping to the radio that afternoon.

knowing this, and accepting, for the sake of argument, that martin would like to coach long-term at kstate if given a fair salary, i'm not sure how you can not be wracked with worry that currie will eff kstate fans over.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 12:34:22 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.

clarify please.  thanks.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:34:32 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.

:dunno:

enjoying your circlejerk?


Frank has never said he wouldn't take one if offered.  Just that he's not worried about it or focusing on it during the season.   Pretty simple really.  I know you guys enjoy playing obtuse, but if you keep acting that way eventually you will become stupid.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:36:12 PM
I actually have it on good authority that the deal was dead at Wefald's hands before the Fitz debacle, but it certainly didn't help.    I really wanted Patterson, I remember fist pumping to the radio that afternoon.

knowing this, and accepting, for the sake of argument, that martin would like to coach long-term at kstate if given a fair salary, i'm not sure how you can not be wracked with worry that currie will eff kstate fans over.

Is Curry Wefald?   No.

Is Curry Krause?  No.

Curry is fairly unproven at this point.   He's done some fairly decent things with the program to help appease the fans this year, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until there is suffiecient PROOF otherwise.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 12:37:49 PM
I also think that he has his sights set on moving up and out of Manhattan, ASAP.  Currie isn't going to do anything that is going to tarnish that little financial flip chart that he walks around with.  By the time Currie lands his next gig, he hopes to have stabilized football to preserve the revenue stream and coasted along on basketball fumes long enough for it to appear viable.

The problem with that thought is that the sort of programs that would represent a signficant upward move from KSU are the sort that are swimming in cash and care about one and only one thing: winning.  Currie's failure to retain Frank at KSU would be a huge negative to those folks while his ability to do an athletic department on a shoestring budget would be wholly irrelevant.  Fans of place like Northeastern Central Western Bumfuck U. State (and Powertards of course) care about the latter, big time programs do not.  

Fire Currie.   :opcat:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 12:39:23 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.

:dunno:

enjoying your circlejerk?


Frank has never said he wouldn't take one if offered.  Just that he's not worried about it or focusing on it during the season.   Pretty simple really.  I know you guys enjoy playing obtuse, but if you keep acting that way eventually you will become stupid.

why would Frank go on the radio and clarify he is the lowest paid coach in the league when the host asks him a question about this contract.  why not 'no comment.  we'll talk about this after the season.'

can you provide a link where frank says he isn't worrying about or working on a contract extension until the end of the season?  are you being obtuse when you post a link to a Robinette article?  an article where Robinette writes in his own words what I am looking for in a Frank quotation.  
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 12:41:19 PM
I have no problem assuming Currie is an idiot.

Yeah, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.  On the other hand, I've had numerous people tell me he's a fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  

what the hell has currie done besides sell $99 football tickets and give two head coaches of non-for-profit sports contract raises/extensions that would lead anyone to believe that he is any good at his job?  


HE ANSWERS EVERY E-MAIL HE RECEIVES FROM FANS!

He didn't answer mine.  Maybe he didn't like the photo of the horse's head that was attached to it.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 12:41:52 PM
I also think that he has his sights set on moving up and out of Manhattan, ASAP.  Currie isn't going to do anything that is going to tarnish that little financial flip chart that he walks around with.  By the time Currie lands his next gig, he hopes to have stabilized football to preserve the revenue stream and coasted along on basketball fumes long enough for it to appear viable.

The problem with that thought is that the sort of programs that would represent a signficant upward move from KSU are the sort that are swimming in cash and care about one and only one thing: winning.  Currie's failure to retain Frank at KSU would be a huge negative to those folks while his ability to do an athletic department on a shoestring budget would be wholly irrelevant.  Fans of place like Northeastern Central Western Bumfrack U. State (and Powertards of course) care about the latter, big time programs do not.  

Fire Currie.   :opcat:

I don't disagree that winning is attractive to big programs, but that's not the point.  They'll easily forgive Currie's inability to get a deal done with Martin if Martin leaves for a bigger name school....remember, this is Manhattan...Currie can't possibly compete with the big boys.  It's a built in excuse.  Besides, Currie already has Tenn. on his resume.

Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: catzacker on February 16, 2010, 12:43:45 PM
I actually have it on good authority that the deal was dead at Wefald's hands before the Fitz debacle, but it certainly didn't help.    I really wanted Patterson, I remember fist pumping to the radio that afternoon.

knowing this, and accepting, for the sake of argument, that martin would like to coach long-term at kstate if given a fair salary, i'm not sure how you can not be wracked with worry that currie will shazbot! kstate fans over.

Is Curry Wefald?   No.

Is Curry Krause?  No.

Curry is fairly unproven at this point.   He's done some fairly decent things with the program to help appease the fans this year, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until there is suffiecient PROOF otherwise.

there's a reverse to this, until proven otherwise he hasn't done anything to get my benefit of the doubt.  and actually, I'd argue that given the other contracts/extensions he's given out, that there seems to be, imo, an issue with his ability to prioritze what's important and/or recognize what's important.  
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 12:43:51 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.

:dunno:

enjoying your circlejerk?


Frank has never said he wouldn't take one if offered.  Just that he's not worried about it or focusing on it during the season.   Pretty simple really.  I know you guys enjoy playing obtuse, but if you keep acting that way eventually you will become stupid.

why would Frank go on the radio and clarify he is the lowest paid coach in the league when the host asks him a question about this contract.  why not 'no comment.  we'll talk about this after the season.'

can you provide a link where frank says he isn't worrying about or working on a contract extension until the end of the season?  are you being obtuse when you post a link to a Robinette article?  an article where Robinette writes in his own words what I am looking for in a Frank quotation.  


In that interview, the interviewer said Frank was the second lowest paid coach, and Frank corrected him and said that he was indeed the lowest paid coach.  

Now if that isn't a "eff You Pay Me".....
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.

:dunno:

enjoying your circlejerk?


Frank has never said he wouldn't take one if offered.  Just that he's not worried about it or focusing on it during the season.   Pretty simple really.  I know you guys enjoy playing obtuse, but if you keep acting that way eventually you will become stupid.

why would Frank go on the radio and clarify he is the lowest paid coach in the league when the host asks him a question about this contract.  why not 'no comment.  we'll talk about this after the season.'

can you provide a link where frank says he isn't worrying about or working on a contract extension until the end of the season?  are you being obtuse when you post a link to a Robinette article?  an article where Robinette writes in his own words what I am looking for in a Frank quotation.  

Frank appears to me to be the kind of guy that would have clarified he was the 4th and not the 3rd highest paid if that was the case.   He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.    We are talking about the same guy who coached here without a signed contract the first season....that's not the sign of a guy who's concerned about it to a great extent.

as far as the other extensions, last I heard Deb wasn't championing the practice facility, so if that's a major issue in the contract talks, that's irrelevant to her.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 16, 2010, 12:48:09 PM
I think Currie has to have some type of common sense, and I'm sure he's heard enough from fans and donors to know what he needs to do. It seems that both sides will most likely benefit from waiting to see how the season plays out, more so Martin. If we beat UK in Allen, or in the Big XII tourny, then Marin could easily get more. Or if we get to the Elite 8, or the Final 4 as it seems more and more possible, then that would also benefit Martin. Currie can not try to argue that we're pressed for money right now, with ticket sales soaring compared to previous seasons. Also, now that Martin has been talking about how great of an environment Manhattan is for his children to grow up in, he HAS to have some attachment to the Little Apple.

Or maybe I'm just a hopeless idealist.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: pissclams on February 16, 2010, 12:49:30 PM
Bob Krause would've already offered Frank a new contract . . . period, end of discussion.

Bob Krause also would've re-written the books 8 times, killed several people and buried them out in Colbert Hills, and robbed a couple of banks by now to get his Wildcat Victory Campaign going.  

I blame all the dumb $hit Krause did completely on Wefald.


dax, you have no idea how accurate this post is.  actually, you probably do.  either way, it's really accurate and i want to go on record as saying that.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 12:49:56 PM
He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.

so is he or is he not working on or worrying about it until the end of the season or is it a work in progress.  if he deals in 'plain talk. no bullshit'. that means he must be worrying about it or working on it.  or he's a bullshitter :dunno:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2010, 12:50:29 PM
no where did I say he said he doesn't want an extension until the end of the season, perhaps you should bone up on your reading skills

if you've heard Frank speak on it, he says he isn't worrying or working on it until after the season.   Get over it.

am i creating a strawman here :dunno:


if you think those 2 sentences mean the same thing, you need to go back to grade school.

:dunno:

enjoying your circlejerk?


Frank has never said he wouldn't take one if offered.  Just that he's not worried about it or focusing on it during the season.   Pretty simple really.  I know you guys enjoy playing obtuse, but if you keep acting that way eventually you will become stupid.

why would Frank go on the radio and clarify he is the lowest paid coach in the league when the host asks him a question about this contract.  why not 'no comment.  we'll talk about this after the season.'

can you provide a link where frank says he isn't worrying about or working on a contract extension until the end of the season?  are you being obtuse when you post a link to a Robinette article?  an article where Robinette writes in his own words what I am looking for in a Frank quotation.  

Frank appears to me to be the kind of guy that would have clarified he was the 4th and not the 3rd highest paid if that was the case.   He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.    We are talking about the same guy who coached here without a signed contract the first season....that's not the sign of a guy who's concerned about it to a great extent.

as far as the other extensions, last I heard Deb wasn't championing the practice facility, so if that's a major issue in the contract talks, that's irrelevant to her.

In that first season, frank would have killed a drifter to keep his job.

Those days are gone.  In this biz, you get paid.  Frank seems like he likes his kids more than a little bit.  You telling me that he's going to pass up on an opportunity to guarantee his family's financial security for generations?  The guy who came from poverty is going to pass up on securing his children's financial independence?

I give Frank credit for handling this thing properly in the public eye.....which has nothing to do with point of this thread.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 12:55:20 PM
I don't disagree that winning is attractive to big programs, but that's not the point.  They'll easily forgive Currie's inability to get a deal done with Martin if Martin leaves for a bigger name school....remember, this is Manhattan...Currie can't possibly compete with the big boys.  It's a built in excuse.  Besides, Currie already has Tenn. on his resume.

Pete the world is filled with people bearing excuses for why they just couldn't quite get it done.  A little more time, a little more money, a little more support, blah, blah, blah.  If Currie wants a top-shelf job he needs to prove that he can get it done, I've never met anyone who was excellent at anything that made excuses for their past failures.  Fact is if Currie can't nail down Frank at KSU he's a washout as a prospect for a top AD job.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 12:59:04 PM
He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.

so is he or is he not working on or worrying about it until the end of the season or is it a work in progress.  if he deals in 'plain talk. no bullshit'. that means he must be worrying about it or working on it.  or he's a bullshitter :dunno:

he answered the question when asked.    I have no doubts that until Jeff Martin spilled his guts and started this whole thing we wouldn't have heard Frank say a word.  and that's the way it should have been.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 01:00:57 PM
Pete the world is filled with people bearing excuses for why they just couldn't quite get it done.  A little more time, a little more money, a little more support, blah, blah, blah.  If Currie wants a top-shelf job he needs to prove that he can get it done, I've never met anyone who was excellent at anything that made excuses for their past failures.  Fact is if Currie can't nail down Frank at KSU he's a washout as a prospect for a top AD job.

what looks better for currie?  extending a guy he didn't hire to a run of the mill big 12 contract, or losing that guy and hiring his own guy (who does well for at least as long as currie remains at kstate)?
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: catzacker on February 16, 2010, 01:01:20 PM
He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.

so is he or is he not working on or worrying about it until the end of the season or is it a work in progress.  if he deals in 'plain talk. no bullshit'. that means he must be worrying about it or working on it.  or he's a bullshitter :dunno:

he answered the question when asked.    I have no doubts that until Jeff Martin spilled his guts and started this whole thing we wouldn't have heard Frank say a word.  and that's the way it should have been.

no, that's the way Currie wanted it so he could spin it if he f*cked this thing up.  and then people like you would just fall back on the "since he's and athletic director of my school, then he can do no wrong" until Currie leaves and an audit is done and every finds out what a complete ass he is.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
Pete the world is filled with people bearing excuses for why they just couldn't quite get it done.  A little more time, a little more money, a little more support, blah, blah, blah.  If Currie wants a top-shelf job he needs to prove that he can get it done, I've never met anyone who was excellent at anything that made excuses for their past failures.  Fact is if Currie can't nail down Frank at KSU he's a washout as a prospect for a top AD job.

what looks better for currie?  extending a guy he didn't hire to a run of the mill big 12 contract, or losing that guy and hiring his own guy (who does well for at least as long as currie remains at kstate)?

The former when the coach in question started his HC career at KSU and promptly won more games than any coach in the university's long & storied basketball history.  Only a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) would eff that up.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: ltrain on February 16, 2010, 01:06:25 PM
He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.

so is he or is he not working on or worrying about it until the end of the season or is it a work in progress.  if he deals in 'plain talk. no bullshit'. that means he must be worrying about it or working on it.  or he's a bullshitter :dunno:

he answered the question when asked.    I have no doubts that until Jeff Martin spilled his guts and started this whole thing we wouldn't have heard Frank say a word.  and that's the way it should have been.

I don’t think J-Mart ‘spilled his guts’ because he felt like it…it was going to become an issue whether J-Mart said anything or not.  It was no coincidence that this all blew up right after the Texas win…suddenly everyone had a source that said Frank was insulted/Currie was an idiot.

Put me in the camp that doesn’t like Currie, but I still think Frank’s deal will get done, I just hope Currie’s moved on before we have to go through this again.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: kcchiefdav on February 16, 2010, 01:06:34 PM
Idiots, Frank is not waiting until the end of the season...He's going to announce his extension at the post Grassroots Parade press conf.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 01:09:15 PM
The former when the coach in question started his HC career at KSU and promptly won more games than any coach in the university's long & storied basketball history.  Only a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) would shazbot! that up.

ok, good.  makes me feel better.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 01:12:00 PM
The former when the coach in question started his HC career at KSU and promptly won more games than any coach in the university's long & storied basketball history.  Only a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) would shazbot! that up.

ok, good.  makes me feel better.

But, based on the apparent state of the negotiations, we can only infer that Currie is a complete full-on Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: wabash909 on February 16, 2010, 01:12:09 PM
He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.

so is he or is he not working on or worrying about it until the end of the season or is it a work in progress.  if he deals in 'plain talk. no bullshit'. that means he must be worrying about it or working on it.  or he's a bullshitter :dunno:

he answered the question when asked.    I have no doubts that until Jeff Martin spilled his guts and started this whole thing we wouldn't have heard Frank say a word.  and that's the way it should have been.


Frank Martin is a guy who I sincerely believe respects and appreciates this school, his current coaching position and the fan base.

What good does it serve him to make any sort of perceived negative statements that reflect poorly on any of the above when questioned publically in the media about this contract negotiation?

His typical response about “things are being worked on” is exactly as it should be, neutral.  This isn't about plain talk, straight shooting.  He’s simply taking the high road here.  

As far as the “proof”.  The proof exists in the fact that a new contract has not been finalized.

The bottom line is there isn't much to "work out" and there's no reason to overcomplicate this.  It's actually pretty straight forward.  Frank has put his contract terms on the table.  Curry to this point has not agreed to them.  Let's stop acting like this is some ridiculously involved process.



Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 16, 2010, 01:13:19 PM
I hate these threads.  That is all I have to contribute.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
So where exactly is all this money Currie is supposed to use, coming from. . . ? You know we held a giant "garage sale" for the athletic department last year. LOL- at probably being the only school trying to sell random crap just so we don't come out in the negatives. I guess I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like it.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Levi on February 16, 2010, 01:30:01 PM
He deals in plain talk, no bullshit.   He deals in truth and fact, and if an interviewer misspoke on any fact, I think Frank would correct him.    Frank hasn't ever dodge talk of his contract when it's been brought up, but he's quick to point out that it's a work in progress and that he has faith it will be resolved to his satisfaction.

so is he or is he not working on or worrying about it until the end of the season or is it a work in progress.  if he deals in 'plain talk. no bullshit'. that means he must be worrying about it or working on it.  or he's a bullshitter :dunno:

he answered the question when asked.    I have no doubts that until Jeff Martin spilled his guts and started this whole thing we wouldn't have heard Frank say a word.  and that's the way it should have been.

Great thread.

One thought, Mikey...

Have you considered the contents of J-Mart's "spill"?

So, in your words, Frank isn’t worried about the contract at all, at least until after the season. But for some reason, Currie, who you would think would know Frank doesn’t want to worry about the contract, presents him with an offer anyway?
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 02:00:47 PM
Lots of athletic departments have "garage sales".   It's pretty common.  

Plus . . . and I'll say this for the last F_CKING TIME.    Do not believe this "the athletic department is in financial shambles" BS that MisFitzermation regularly spews on his website.   Now, I am not saying that they've got piles of money laying around, I am not saying that they aren't watching every dime . . . what am saying is that if DPPB (that's Deb Patterson's Prison Bitch) wanted to pay Frank the additional $2-$3-$4 hundred thousand he wants, it could be handled.  

Really dax, so you spewing what you believe here is any different? . . . Sounds a lot like opinions.

But I have friends that work in the athletic dep and considering they were thinking of laying off STUDENTS b/c they weren't sure they could pay them, what, 7$ an hour, would lead you to assume they are fracking struggling.

With that being said- there is bad debt and good debt, and paying Frank would be good debt. I would assume Currie understands the difference. If he doesn't he has no right to be where he is. Pretty simple.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
The former when the coach in question started his HC career at KSU and promptly won more games than any coach in the university's long & storied basketball history.  Only a complete Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) would shazbot! that up.

ok, good.  makes me feel better.

But, based on the apparent state of the negotiations, we can only infer that Currie is a complete full-on Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 

crap.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: CrushNasty on February 16, 2010, 02:06:16 PM
I believe this belongs in the thread I started earlier today.  WAYYY TOO MANY NEW posts on the exact same topic!!!1!  :runaway:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 02:13:11 PM
Cutting students in a State University, is far different than any private organization. Comparing them is wrong. Either way what I'm trying to say is-

Maybe it's just not as simple as "here Frank, here is 1.5mil a year." I would love that, but it doesn't appear to be that easy. Either that or everyone is right and Currie is just a blind idiot? We'll find out after our National Championship in April I guess.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: KITNfury on February 16, 2010, 02:19:04 PM
Cutting students in a State University, is far different than any private organization. Comparing them is wrong. Either way what I'm trying to say is-

Maybe it's just not as simple as "here Frank, here is 1.5mil a year." I would love that, but it doesn't appear to be that easy. Either that or everyone is right and Currie is just a blind idiot? We'll find out after our National Championship in April I guess.  :dunno:
That's the thing. By all accounts, he's not asking for anything near 1.5
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 02:27:32 PM
Maybe it's just not as simple as "here Frank, here is 1.5mil a year." I would love that, but it doesn't appear to be that easy. Either that or everyone is right and Currie is just a blind idiot? We'll find out after our National Championship in April I guess.  :dunno:

the "ain't no money" argument is insultingly stupid.  however, if you want to adopt that premise, please explain how giving patterson a raise to 500k/yr before addressing martin's contract needs wasn't patently irresponsible.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 02:29:52 PM
I understand what you're saying dax so calm down. Sadly some people really take University athletics beyond the students themselves. But like always it'll fall second to the University itself.

When you actually understand the corporate structure of K-State athletics and its relationship to the university, we'll discuss this further.

Flip it- Kansas State University and its relationship to Athletics

I think you took the wrong basis out of my initial post, for really no reason?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 02:32:24 PM
Maybe it's just not as simple as "here Frank, here is 1.5mil a year." I would love that, but it doesn't appear to be that easy. Either that or everyone is right and Currie is just a blind idiot? We'll find out after our National Championship in April I guess.  :dunno:

the "ain't no money" argument is insultingly stupid.  however, if you want to adopt that premise, please explain how giving patterson a raise to 500k/yr before addressing martin's contract needs wasn't patently irresponsible.

See my post before sys,

It really doesn't matter though we'll find out if he is ours or not by the end of the season. I'm extremely worried Currie might not get it done. Maybe just trying to convince myself otherwise??
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 16, 2010, 02:47:16 PM
I love how these threads completely dissapear when there are more interesting things to talk about. 

...like basketball, for instance.  This OU game couldn't get here fast enough. 
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Trim on February 16, 2010, 02:48:40 PM
I declared that Currie sucked a long time ago.  And I'm the best judge of EMAW charcter there is. 

So we're probably mumped.  The end.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 02:50:35 PM
I'm extremely worried Currie might not get it done. Maybe just trying to convince myself otherwise??

i hear you.

I declared that Currie sucked a long time ago.  And I'm the best judge of EMAW charcter there is. 

So we're probably fracked.  The end.

i hear you.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 02:50:49 PM
I declared that Currie sucked a long time ago.  And I'm the best judge of EMAW charcter there is. 

So we're probably mumped.  The end.

This is about as true as it gets folks
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Levi on February 16, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
I declared that Currie sucked a long time ago.  And I'm the best judge of EMAW charcter there is. 

So we're probably fracked.  The end.

QFT

EOT.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: jaa1025 on February 16, 2010, 03:16:42 PM
Will the melt down be bigger than it was when Huggins left when Martin leaves after this year? And will Currie hire Hill to "keep the recruits"?
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 03:21:21 PM
Maybe it's just not as simple as "here Frank, here is 1.5mil a year." I would love that, but it doesn't appear to be that easy. Either that or everyone is right and Currie is just a blind idiot? We'll find out after our National Championship in April I guess.  :dunno:

the "ain't no money" argument is insultingly stupid.  however, if you want to adopt that premise, please explain how giving patterson a raise to 500k/yr before addressing martin's contract needs wasn't patently irresponsible.

irresponsible or full on Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) ... you make the call
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 03:40:50 PM
Will the melt down be bigger than it was when Huggins left when Martin leaves after this year? And will Currie hire Hill to "keep the recruits"?

Yes and what recruits?
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2010, 03:51:13 PM
Frank is going to end up looking like a victim while leaving for a much, much, better job.  Will be funny.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 04:02:38 PM
Frank is going to end up looking like a victim while leaving for a much, much, better job.  Will be funny.

currie will be crushed like a dove.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: wabash909 on February 16, 2010, 04:02:53 PM
I love how these threads completely dissapear when there are more interesting things to talk about. 

...like basketball, for instance.  This OU game couldn't get here fast enough. 


I'd love for these threads to dissapear as well.  Here's another simple way to make that happen, finalize the fracking contract.


Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: kcchiefdav on February 16, 2010, 04:07:17 PM
I can't wait to finally become a fan of a PAC-10 school when one of them hires Frank this offseason. It's gonna be a steal for my future favorite team as well because they're going to get him for like $1.4 Million plus incentives.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 04:19:35 PM
So where exactly is all this money Currie is supposed to use, coming from. . . ?

Simple: 80% cuts across the board in all other coaching salaries; divert the cash to pay Frank & Co.; Currie gets to hire his people to replace everyone who walks in other sports.  That's a win / win / win if I've ever seen one. 

 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 04:25:25 PM
I can't wait to finally become a fan of a PAC-10 school when one of them hires Frank this offseason. It's gonna be a steal for my future favorite team as well because they're going to get him for like $1.4 Million plus incentives.

As a Pac 10 alum I can say with some certainty that Frank would be a bad fit out there.  He'd be forced to spend so much time in sensitivity training that he'd never get any coaching done. 
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: CatsFan_58 on February 16, 2010, 04:34:09 PM
Frank is going to end up looking like a victim while leaving for a much, much, better job.  Will be funny.

currie will be crushed like a dove.
if the deal does not get done, i will kidnap currie and see to it that he suffers greatly.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: AzCat on February 16, 2010, 04:54:29 PM
Frank is going to end up looking like a victim while leaving for a much, much, better job.  Will be funny.

currie will be crushed like a dove.
if the deal does not get done, i will kidnap currie and see to it that he suffers greatly.

What are you going to do, make him read your posts?   :ohno:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: jaa1025 on February 16, 2010, 04:56:52 PM

If Currie wouldn't have overpayed for OB's, then Frank would have plenty of cash on his contract and this issue would be mute.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Bookcat on February 16, 2010, 05:10:13 PM
Here are some what-ifs...

What if John Currie could really give a shazbot! if this deal with Frank falls through?


I mean, he's a guy who came from prestigious Tennessee and could care less if Kstate shuns him.


Knowing that...how do you feel now knowing that Currie honestly believes that Frank will take what Kstate pays him?
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: OregonSmock on February 16, 2010, 05:11:22 PM
If someone like Oregon offers Frank $2 million/year, how does he not leave K-State? 
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 16, 2010, 05:13:43 PM
If someone like Oregon offers Frank $2 million/year, how does he not leave K-State? 

go ask Harbaugh...
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Bookcat on February 16, 2010, 05:14:08 PM
If someone like Oregon offers Frank $2 million/year, how does he not leave K-State? 

fear noted...and its not Oregon that is offering the big bucks. The Pac-10 would be a career killer imho. The Pac-10 is a horribly bad basketball conference...particularly this year. There are ACC and Big East schools that could show some interest...particularly if we go deep in the tournament.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Bookcat on February 16, 2010, 05:14:37 PM
If someone like Oregon offers Frank $2 million/year, how does he not leave K-State? 

go ask Harbaugh...

ZING!
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: deputy dawg on February 16, 2010, 05:17:18 PM
if Frank doesn't have a contract signed by Tax Day, then by al means, break out the pitchforks and torches.  Until then, get over it.

You ever considered that since it appears a major sticking point is reported to be the practice facility, that the AD and Frank both need the continued success of this season to continue to drum up financial support to get it built?       You don't just get millions overnight...it takes months and months of coddling and handholding major donors to ensure they pledge.   Donors that maybe weren't sold on the idea last year are now on the bandwagon, but you've obviously never tried to fundraisie major cash if you think once someone's made up their mind to donate that they just open the checkbook.   Most have an egotistical side that must be stroked and placated until THEY write the check on their terms and timeline.  

A credible source says that Frank wants an additional $400,000 for his contract, and modest raises for the other coaches.  Currie cancelled construction on the basketball practice facility when it became apparent that Prince Ron wiped his a$$ with Krause/Wefald, and Currie has to find money from somewhere to pay for the facility.  I think that is making everyone impatient, including Frank.  Whatever you think of Currie, he is in a bad spot.  I doubt he ha problems with salaries for Frank and assistants (whose marginal cost is not too bad), but is struggling with finding the $$$ for the practice facility (a BIG hit financially).  I can only hope he's getting creative and finding a way to get it done.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: jaa1025 on February 16, 2010, 06:08:40 PM
if Frank doesn't have a contract signed by Tax Day, then by al means, break out the pitchforks and torches.  Until then, get over it.

You ever considered that since it appears a major sticking point is reported to be the practice facility, that the AD and Frank both need the continued success of this season to continue to drum up financial support to get it built?       You don't just get millions overnight...it takes months and months of coddling and handholding major donors to ensure they pledge.   Donors that maybe weren't sold on the idea last year are now on the bandwagon, but you've obviously never tried to fundraisie major cash if you think once someone's made up their mind to donate that they just open the checkbook.   Most have an egotistical side that must be stroked and placated until THEY write the check on their terms and timeline.  

A credible source says that Frank wants an additional $400,000 for his contract, and modest raises for the other coaches.  Currie cancelled construction on the basketball practice facility when it became apparent that Prince Ron wiped his a$$ with Krause/Wefald, and Currie has to find money from somewhere to pay for the facility.  I think that is making everyone impatient, including Frank.  Whatever you think of Currie, he is in a bad spot.  I doubt he ha problems with salaries for Frank and assistants (whose marginal cost is not too bad), but is struggling with finding the $$$ for the practice facility (a BIG hit financially).  I can only hope he's getting creative and finding a way to get it done.

400k+ a raise for assistants is chump change compared to the damage it will cause to lose Coach Martin. Currie and KSU can't afford NOT to pay the man.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: wabash909 on February 16, 2010, 06:17:46 PM
if Frank doesn't have a contract signed by Tax Day, then by al means, break out the pitchforks and torches.  Until then, get over it.

You ever considered that since it appears a major sticking point is reported to be the practice facility, that the AD and Frank both need the continued success of this season to continue to drum up financial support to get it built?       You don't just get millions overnight...it takes months and months of coddling and handholding major donors to ensure they pledge.   Donors that maybe weren't sold on the idea last year are now on the bandwagon, but you've obviously never tried to fundraisie major cash if you think once someone's made up their mind to donate that they just open the checkbook.   Most have an egotistical side that must be stroked and placated until THEY write the check on their terms and timeline.  

A credible source says that Frank wants an additional $400,000 for his contract, and modest raises for the other coaches.  Currie cancelled construction on the basketball practice facility when it became apparent that Prince Ron wiped his a$$ with Krause/Wefald, and Currie has to find money from somewhere to pay for the facility.  I think that is making everyone impatient, including Frank.  Whatever you think of Currie, he is in a bad spot.  I doubt he ha problems with salaries for Frank and assistants (whose marginal cost is not too bad), but is struggling with finding the $$$ for the practice facility (a BIG hit financially).  I can only hope he's getting creative and finding a way to get it done.


Completely inaccurate.




Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 08:39:15 PM
When has Frank ever beat around the bush and told us as a fan base, anything but the truth? I think he's one of the most honest and straight forward coaches I've come across. When has he given us a reason not to believe him? So for what its worth, when he says he wants to wait til the end of the season and not let this be a distraction, etc about contract negotiations, I'm sorry, but I'm going to believe him and I'm not going to get too concerned with this.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 08:48:51 PM
when he says he wants to wait til the end of the season and not let this be a distraction

4 pages in and i'm still waiting for proof that he said that.   :users:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 08:52:37 PM
He said it on 810 shortly after KK decided to make a huge deal about it and Frank was on.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 08:55:46 PM
when he says he wants to wait til the end of the season and not let this be a distraction

4 pages in and i'm still waiting for proof that he said that.   :users:

This was actually a quote given on 610:

“John Currie and I have had tremendous dialogue since the day he got here. John has been phenomenal for me. He’s been phenomenal for K-State. I want to be here. He wants me to be here. My energies are about coaching our team right now. … John and I speak all the time. We have a constant open-door policy with one another. John has been phenomenal for the people in my office.”
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 16, 2010, 09:01:27 PM
Quote
A credible source says that Frank wants an additional $400,000 for his contract, and modest raises for the other coaches.  Currie cancelled construction on the basketball practice facility when it became apparent that Prince Ron wiped his a$$ with Krause/Wefald, and Currie has to find money from somewhere to pay for the facility.

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: bleedpurple on February 16, 2010, 09:06:50 PM
Quote
A credible source says that Frank wants an additional $400,000 for his contract, and modest raises for the other coaches.  Currie cancelled construction on the basketball practice facility when it became apparent that Prince Ron wiped his a$$ with Krause/Wefald, and Currie has to find money from somewhere to pay for the facility.

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

I second that

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Andy on February 16, 2010, 09:30:27 PM
I hate these threads.  That is all I have to contribute.

right with you.  just assume he's gone and enjoy the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: deputy dawg on February 16, 2010, 09:44:03 PM
if Frank doesn't have a contract signed by Tax Day, then by al means, break out the pitchforks and torches.  Until then, get over it.

You ever considered that since it appears a major sticking point is reported to be the practice facility, that the AD and Frank both need the continued success of this season to continue to drum up financial support to get it built?       You don't just get millions overnight...it takes months and months of coddling and handholding major donors to ensure they pledge.   Donors that maybe weren't sold on the idea last year are now on the bandwagon, but you've obviously never tried to fundraisie major cash if you think once someone's made up their mind to donate that they just open the checkbook.   Most have an egotistical side that must be stroked and placated until THEY write the check on their terms and timeline.  

A credible source says that Frank wants an additional $400,000 for his contract, and modest raises for the other coaches.  Currie cancelled construction on the basketball practice facility when it became apparent that Prince Ron wiped his a$$ with Krause/Wefald, and Currie has to find money from somewhere to pay for the facility.  I think that is making everyone impatient, including Frank.  Whatever you think of Currie, he is in a bad spot.  I doubt he ha problems with salaries for Frank and assistants (whose marginal cost is not too bad), but is struggling with finding the $$$ for the practice facility (a BIG hit financially).  I can only hope he's getting creative and finding a way to get it done.


Completely inaccurate.






OK...that's the most plausible story I've come across, and it's a lot more credible than other scenarios.  If this isn't accurate, then you must know what is.  I don't think you do.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 16, 2010, 09:59:38 PM
Trust me . . . he does know.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 16, 2010, 10:15:59 PM
bad day for me not to be bbsing...goddamnit
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: SuperG on February 16, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
Here are some what-ifs...

What if John Currie could really give a shazbot! if this deal with Frank falls through?


I mean, he's a guy who came from prestigious Tennessee and could care less if Kstate shuns him.


Knowing that...how do you feel now knowing that Currie honestly believes that Frank will take what Kstate pays him?

Seems that if he loses Frank and gets run out of Manhattan it would probably hurt his resume significantly. If he "did everything he could to keep Frank" and K-State fans take that line and don't run him out of town he's the big winner. He builds his resume and leaves after 3 or 4 years and K-State looks like a giant bloody a-hole once again.

BTW, could we please get a "Giant Bloody A-hole" emoticon asap. TIA.


Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Kat Kid on February 16, 2010, 11:51:21 PM
Can we drop this "run out of town" business?  Krause and Wefald weren't "run out of town" and OB is still our beloved coach.  There were more than a few people that thought Wooly was a nice guy that just had some bad luck and needed some more time.  It is unclear to me what anyone associated with the University or Athletics would have to do to get "run out of town."  Maybe if someone tried to turn the College of Ag in to a JuCo?  No clue.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: SuperG on February 17, 2010, 01:04:59 AM
Can we drop this "run out of town" business?  Krause and Wefald weren't "run out of town" and OB is still our beloved coach.  There were more than a few people that thought Wooly was a nice guy that just had some bad luck and needed some more time.  It is unclear to me what anyone associated with the University or Athletics would have to do to get "run out of town."  Maybe if someone tried to turn the College of Ag in to a JuCo?  No clue.

I think I understand your point. But just so you know, "Run Out of Town" is a figure of speech. I'm sure you're aware that they are often used when bbs'ing about sports and such.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: KITNfury on February 17, 2010, 06:07:54 AM
Can we drop this "run out of town" business?  Krause and Wefald weren't "run out of town" and OB is still our beloved coach.  There were more than a few people that thought Wooly was a nice guy that just had some bad luck and needed some more time.  It is unclear to me what anyone associated with the University or Athletics would have to do to get "run out of town."  Maybe if someone tried to turn the College of Ag in to a JuCo?  No clue.
Was Ron Prince run out of town. Sure felt like he was. Don't think the President can't be influenced by donors if Currie fucks this up.
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Mick on February 17, 2010, 06:31:17 AM
Lots of athletic departments have "garage sales".   It's pretty common. 

Plus . . . and I'll say this for the last F_CKING TIME.    Do not believe this "the athletic department is in financial shambles" BS that MisFitzermation regularly spews on his website.   Now, I am not saying that they've got piles of money laying around, I am not saying that they aren't watching every dime . . . what am saying is that if DPPB (that's Deb Patterson's Prison Bitch) wanted to pay Frank the additional $2-$3-$4 hundred thousand he wants, it could be handled.   

Dax

First post so bear with me....I'm trying to understand the financial situation.  Below is a link to the 2009 year end fiscal reports for the ath dept.  See pg 6.  Looks like the dept ran at a 2.8 mil dollar deficit this past fiscal year (without paying ron ron the additional 3 mil we might owe him).  I'm sure there's something I don't understand ($$ that doesn't have to be reported, seperate corp where donations are housed, etc).  Where is all the extra $$$ coming from to pay Frank?  Again, just trying to understand.  Thanks Dax.


https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf4/659198.pdf?ATCLID=204836139&SPSID=3053&SPID=211&DB_OEM_ID=400
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Kaiser Soze on February 17, 2010, 10:25:16 AM
 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Hey, John Currie, please keep dicking the shazbot! around on Frank's contract!
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2012, 10:17:21 AM
:lol: