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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Who would!? Nobody has an answer for Maric!
« on: September 06, 2011, 02:21:40 PM »
If the world were a fair place, Doc would be able to take his basketball team and join us in the Big East.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Student Section
« on: September 06, 2011, 02:07:17 PM »When I was a student we could actually sing the fight song in unison and do the KSU chant loudly. Today's students are just crap human beings. They are good for nothing.
When I was a student I entered the '00 Nubb game with 30 Keystones duct taped to my body under a snow suit.
You wouldn't be able to get that snowsuit past the metal detectors, nowadays.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 02:01:15 PM »Baylor could take MU's spot imo, and regionally pair with with tcu. I think the main problem here is that when ou bails, the big east might be in as much disarray as the big 12. There might be nowhere left to flee to.
i could see that. if i was going to grab a texas school to rock with tcu i think it would be houston. the school is larger and the houston market is much better then waco. but it might be easier to grab baylor that will be twisting in the wind rather then reach into another conference and pluck houston.
Baylor has a better bball program. In the Big East, bball is king.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Student Section
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:59:32 PM »
When I was a student we could actually sing the fight song in unison and do the KSU chant loudly. Today's students are just crap human beings. They are good for nothing.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: FEMA out of money...
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:56:37 PM »Some communities in Alabama rejected FEMA assistance after the tornado rampage this past spring. They're not too keen on allowing lousy bureaucrats telling them how to live their lives.
And others were denied FEMA aid, even when their homes were ripped off their foundations. I suppose such a thing is expected when the American people are conditioned to have the government come and save them. Thank god for our brave, patriotic, noble leaders looking out for our best interests. Constantly providing new hope and change for the betterment of society.
It's too much of a cluster eff.
EDIT: Why can't we use the national guard for disaster relief? Or instead of immoral wars against people that aren't threats to us, we could use our military industrial complex?
I don't think FEMA should be giving aid to anybody. That's not really the point of FEMA.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:28:10 PM »I think the worst case is the Big East without KU and MU. I'd rather keep the tard conference together with regional rivalries than give up those rivalries completely.
I don't want a Houston, SMU, Air Force, CO State, KSU, KU, ISU, Baylor, random other garbage commuter school, and MU if they don't go to the SEC no matter what. Regional rivalry/rivalries can kiss my ass at that point. That's not the New Big 12, that's the New Conference USA.
Oh, no doubt it would suck, but at least we would still be able to travel to road games. We don't really have to worry about it though. There's no way that KU, K-State, and MU would take that over the Big East. If K-State gets left behind, there is still the Big East, but it will suck balls if Iowa State is the closest team we play.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:20:09 PM »with word that the big 10 and pac 10 are happy at 12 teams for now, is the sec, which has always been content at 12 teams and which is truly worried about starting the demise of the big 12, really going to vote to take on a&m? looks like it could be a huge a&m facepant to me.
I will chant SEC! SEC! every time we play them in any sport as long as we are in their conference if this happens.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:17:55 PM »Here's what we know, yesterday was a national holiday and the weather was really nice. Digging deeper than that journalistically is completely pointless.QuoteFITZ
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No, and no one at K-State is capable of reading David Boren's mind. Heck, I don't think OU knows what it's going to do right now. I know everyone wants answers, but there are none right now. None. K-State has no cards to play until the fate of the Big 12 is sorted out.
I know you're frustrated, but I'm not going to pull a Chip and write about every possible scenario as what's going on that moment.
I stand by this: I said on the site Saturday that Texas doesn't want the Big 12 to break up and OU is posturing. I have been given no different information from the people I know who are close to the situation, but at this point I'd rather trust a politician than some of these university presidents.
As I've said on Wabash, if the Big 12 shatters, K-State will either end up in a west division of the Big East, or in a conference with schools from the Big East.
Now, I apologize for not being on here all day, but it was a national holiday and a beautiful day. Home improvements and a glimpse of Miami football (and a troubling eye full of Maryland's uniforms) were on my agenda. I'm also writing the postgame grades.
Coach Snyder has said on the record, and Coach Martin has tweeted, that there's no use fretting over things you cannot control and this is one of them. Is it major? Probably more for me than you because it could impact my livelihood, but only if you stop being a K-State fan because the Cats are in the Big East.
John Currie spoke at Saturday's game and didn't say anything other than he too still thinks the conference will survive. That still matches up with what I've been told by others. So, unless one of you has an inside line on the innermost thoughts of OU's president, I don't know what else to tell you.
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Fitz hit the nail on the head, no one really knows anything, and it is a beautiful time of the year, so let the ones who need to worry about this whole miss and those of us that have no pull just sit back and have a good fall. I refuse to worry about things I have no dam control over, and that is probably why I have lived so long.
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Nothing like scolding the people who pay your bills.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:12:59 PM »
I think the worst case is the Big East without KU and MU. I'd rather keep the tard conference together with regional rivalries than give up those rivalries completely.
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Kansas State Football / Re: I know some people get upset because, well, you know, it's the first game and
« on: September 06, 2011, 11:48:35 AM »
When I take a drive on Dax Jones' Son's Family Highway, I might start giving a eff what sonofdaxjones has to say.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: FEMA out of money...
« on: September 06, 2011, 11:46:41 AM »
I have no problem with simply eliminating the ability for FEMA to give money to people who suffer from disasters as relief. The program as a whole serves a greater, much more important mission.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 11:44:16 AM »getting a feeler from the big east felt good, but a second feeler from another conference would feel even better.
It's always nice having feelers feel you up, but I would honestly prefer going to the Big East with KU and MU than the Pac Whatever with just KU. We need to maintain regional rivalries if possible.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: FEMA out of money...
« on: September 06, 2011, 11:21:58 AM »Good old Pike. He has no idea what FEMA actually does on a day-to-day basis, but he's sure they suck at it because hur derp government.
So we should just sustain as many government programs as possible, even though they lose money?
Jesus Christ
I guess I'm just not sure why we should care about an emergency management program not making money. How are they supposed to make money, again?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Wippuh's Screw You Week 1 Review: Utah State vs Auburn
« on: September 06, 2011, 10:26:01 AM »Well eff me.
You were still right. Take away the turnovers, and field position would change dramatically. We would have scored a ton of points on the backs of the defense were it not for the turnovers. Let's just hope our guys learn how to hold onto the football from here on out.
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Kansas State Football / Re: 10 Things the KSU cat's better do the in the first half against EasKent
« on: September 06, 2011, 10:17:24 AM »In order of preference:3 by my count... fatty what does your notecard say?
1) Not allow a third and long conversion in the first quarter
2) QB sack + fumble (don't have to recover) with the D-line going apeshit afterwards
3) No fumbles (an INT is ok if its an aggressive throw)
4) Skinny post to the TE and its completed
5) A punt longer than 45 yds (second quarter) with little to no return
6) 100 yrds of rushing
7) hold opp to less than 60 rushing
8) C Harp catches a pass and breaks a tackle for 10+ more yards
9) Force opp to use two timeouts in the first quarter
10) Stop a third (or fourth) and short by stuffing the run (bad exchange doesn't count)
The number of these that get done will equal the number of conference win we will get.
Damn, I thought we would have gotten 10).
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Kansas State Football / Re: Wippuh's Screw You Week 1 Review: Utah State vs Auburn
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:58:04 AM »Auburn fans should be far more concerned than KSU fans. Both teams look like they will only win 6-7 games, only Auburn should be doing much better than that. I expect Auburn to improve more over the course of the season than K-State does, though.
We look like we will win 2 games.
Other than K-State, what program can you name that has ever won a game while turning the ball over 5 times, getting a punt blocked, and missing a field goal while only forcing one turnover? The offense was out of rhythm, but as a whole, I thought the team looked better than expected.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Student Section
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:56:00 AM »
Yeah, if we were blowing them out, the students would leave because "we've already won, and it's just not a good game." We play in a real nail-biter, and the students leave because "they just can't watch that crap." I say we just move the students to the corner of the upper deck and give their seats to donors.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Wippuh's Screw You Week 1 Review: Utah State vs Auburn
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:52:23 AM »
Auburn fans should be far more concerned than KSU fans. Both teams look like they will only win 6-7 games, only Auburn should be doing much better than that. I expect Auburn to improve more over the course of the season than K-State does, though.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:43:18 AM »The Big East is due for a new TV deal that would likely pay us similar, maybe even more than what we have been making in the Big 12. It will be nowhere near the amount we would make if the Big 12 were to stay together, but it would be enough to maintain the status quo.
When exactly does the new TV deal transpire? Obviously, a major move in conf. affiliation could affect things in any number of ways on tv negotiations. And certainly it would be nice not to have to give up money. However, when there will be several other conferences w/ teams making a lot more, over time it will be hard to stay competitive (particularly in fb). Oh well, still would take over MWC.
Their ESPN deal expires after the 2012 season. Most of the teams that will have much better deals than us are also fielding far more sports teams that lose money. Kansas State is one of the 10 most profitable athletic departments in the nation right now, and if worst comes to worst, we could always drop another sport like track and field.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:30:31 AM »I think a Big East Network could be very valuable, especially with KU, K-State, and MU. It could air 2-3 basketball games per week, and most of those games would be some kind of marquee matchup.
And "Win the West" has a better ring for a season slogan than "Win the North".
Yes, it does. We could call the west division the "Wild West" and the east division the "Blue Blood East".
Am I wrong in thinking that a Big East network would have more appeal airing 3rd tier basketball games than the Big 10 Network has airing 3rd tier football games, though?
What you're losing sight of is that FB is where all the real money/influence is. The big network $ is going to be aligned directly with the strong FB conferences (looks like SEC, PAC whatever and big 10 right now). As far as value goes, everything else will be second tier. Would still be fun in a way, but not near as much $ to go around.
As long as K-State has enough money to field competitive teams, I don't really care how much revenue the athletic department brings in. Football drives the 1st tier and 2nd tier tv contracts, but I'm not so sure football has a huge advantage over basketball for third tier rights on a conference network, when you consider the quality of 3rd tier games and the fact that so many more basketball games are played than football games.
That's kind of the point -- we go from a 1st tier TV contract to a 3rd tier, and you think the $ difference won't affect the ability to field competitive teams going forward? Essentially, we'd need to become a basketball-centric school again, and maybe hope for a nice season in FB (a decent bowl) when the cards fall just right. I know that's kind of where we are now, but the ceiling would obviously be a lot lower via recruits/BCS bids/overall program level than what we have now. Overall it may be our best option, but still makes me sad.
The Big East is due for a new TV deal that would likely pay us similar, maybe even more than what we have been making in the Big 12. It will be nowhere near the amount we would make if the Big 12 were to stay together, but it would be enough to maintain the status quo.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:22:46 AM »My friends on the Kansas BOR are saying that KU, K-State, and MU are all working very closely together to make sure that they all stay in the same conference, fwiw. It makes sense that the schools would want to hold on to their rivals that produce the best attendance at games year in and year out.
Pressure from legislators, government powers-that-be, etc. is probably the only thing that will keep us in any kind of favorable position. We're the Baylor of whatever conference/affiliation we end up with. I'm sure that there will be some pressure to keep us together (particularly w/ KU), but let's be honest -- if push comes to shove (i.e., a power conference tells MU/KU that the deal is off if we're included), no one is going to be there holding our hand. That being said, just be glad you're not Iowa State right now.
I think the state of Kansas has far too much to lose by breaking up KU and K-State to allow that to happen, as long as there is an option for both schools to go to a BCS conference.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:19:48 AM »I think a Big East Network could be very valuable, especially with KU, K-State, and MU. It could air 2-3 basketball games per week, and most of those games would be some kind of marquee matchup.
And "Win the West" has a better ring for a season slogan than "Win the North".
Yes, it does. We could call the west division the "Wild West" and the east division the "Blue Blood East".
Am I wrong in thinking that a Big East network would have more appeal airing 3rd tier basketball games than the Big 10 Network has airing 3rd tier football games, though?
What you're losing sight of is that FB is where all the real money/influence is. The big network $ is going to be aligned directly with the strong FB conferences (looks like SEC, PAC whatever and big 10 right now). As far as value goes, everything else will be second tier. Would still be fun in a way, but not near as much $ to go around.
As long as K-State has enough money to field competitive teams, I don't really care how much revenue the athletic department brings in. Football drives the 1st tier and 2nd tier tv contracts, but I'm not so sure football has a huge advantage over basketball for third tier rights on a conference network, when you consider the quality of 3rd tier games and the fact that so many more basketball games are played than football games.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:14:33 AM »
My friends on the Kansas BOR are saying that KU, K-State, and MU are all working very closely together to make sure that they all stay in the same conference, fwiw. It makes sense that the schools would want to hold on to their rivals that produce the best attendance at games year in and year out.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« on: September 06, 2011, 09:09:47 AM »I am going to miss geographic rivals, it won't be the same. We can all kid ourselves into liking our new arrangement, but it won't be as fun.
As long as we still have KU and MU, it wouldn't be all that bad.