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Kansas State Football / Re: I know some people get upset because, well, you know, it's the first game and
« on: September 07, 2011, 10:10:15 AM »
I would love to visit Dax's palace.
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Would prefer MWC over Big East. No crap. East is like the opposite of progress.
Is K-State at the minimum for number of sports programs to be considered DI? (I think so...)
So how many millions of dollars is K-State due to lose at this point in time (even in the best case Big East scenario)?
Not known considering Big East television contracts will be restructured.
Wish I understood why Beebe is waiving the conference's right to sue.
It would just hold up the inevitable. Nobody else is going anywhere while that crap is going on.
I've been running some math on all this as we look into the future.
PAC 12 adds OU/OSU/TX/Tech to get to 16. (Not a prediction, just taking one scenario regarding possible school placement for the sake of doing the math.)
SEC 13 adds Mizzou, WVU, and Va Tech to get to 16.
Big One-Gee adds ND, Pitt, Syracuse, and Boston College to get to 16.
One superconference spot left to fill, 16 slots.
ACC has lost 2 of its teams to other conferences, leaving 10.
Big East has lost 3 of its teams to other conferences, leaving 6.
They merge, that's 16 teams, leaving out KU, KSU, ISU, and Baylor.
It may be in our best interest to get into the Big East now, rather than "promoting" other schools to the BCS that could then wind up being additional competitors for Top 64 slots down the road.
I would bet a large sum of money that all ACC teams stay put.
That has been the most surprising thing about this whole process that no one really expected.
They really have a horrible media rights deal compared to everyone else, yet none of them seem interested at all in leaving the ACC.
If there's anything that will screw up the concept of the Super Conference, and help us in the long run, it's that the ACC seems to genuinely want to stick together and not really rock the boat.
Quote@DanWetzel Dan Wetzel
On expansion, my question about Mizzou/Kansas/KState. How good can they be without access to Texas talent B12 offered?
JFC, Squawkstin. Maybe those Buckeyes were right.
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-09-06/austin-meek-imagining-frightening-future-big-east
Let's say TX decides to go to the Big 10 (it's up to them, any conference would bend over for them) how long until Texas takes over the reigns of the conference from Ohio State? I bet it's second year.
TX board suggesting UT, MU, Pitt and ND to Big 10
Hate to say this but WE TOLD YOU MFER'S !!!! NU didn't trust UTerus and look what's happening to you now. Looks like the prom King is leaving all the ugly chicks behind.
I'm interested to hear Cap Crap's thoughts now. A few days ago he was confident we'd turn out ok. Now there's lot of reason to not be.
I'm starting to just want it to be over with.
What is the reason not to be?
KSU gives the Big East nothing as far as a new market goes. They will gladly take KU and MU without us. UCF or Memphis gives them a new market.people think the big east is less stable because it will be picked apart when the big 10, sec, and acc decide they need more teams, none of which are us, with d's in h's, unstable. could be. wouldn't happen in pac 10.
I posted this earlier, but the two biggest powers (WVU and Pitt) aren't likely expansion candidates for the other conferences. Basically, you have UL, UC, USF, and TCU that are in no way going anywhere, Penn St. keeping Pitt out of the Big 10, and WVU not adding much in the way of TV's. Rutgers, Uconn and Syracuse could leave, but it there wouldn't be a conference that would take all 3 at the same time, so the conference would survive.
Basically, the conference members aren't desirable enough for significant poaching to take place.why is everyone so sure the Big East will even offer us?
New market, gets 12 teams, championship game (maybe in the meadowlands? )
What does KU add in this scenario as far as "new market goes"?
The other half of the TVs in the KC metro that aren't watching MU.
So it is that simple? Because it isn't.
Looking beyond TV sets, KSU also adds compelling matchups with KU and MU along with a much larger football budget than UCF or Memphis.
yeah. all those people on the east coast are going to be getting geeked for that saturday morning kstate ku fball game.
KSU gives the Big East nothing as far as a new market goes. They will gladly take KU and MU without us. UCF or Memphis gives them a new market.people think the big east is less stable because it will be picked apart when the big 10, sec, and acc decide they need more teams, none of which are us, with d's in h's, unstable. could be. wouldn't happen in pac 10.
I posted this earlier, but the two biggest powers (WVU and Pitt) aren't likely expansion candidates for the other conferences. Basically, you have UL, UC, USF, and TCU that are in no way going anywhere, Penn St. keeping Pitt out of the Big 10, and WVU not adding much in the way of TV's. Rutgers, Uconn and Syracuse could leave, but it there wouldn't be a conference that would take all 3 at the same time, so the conference would survive.
Basically, the conference members aren't desirable enough for significant poaching to take place.why is everyone so sure the Big East will even offer us?
New market, gets 12 teams, championship game (maybe in the meadowlands? )
What does KU add in this scenario as far as "new market goes"?
The other half of the TVs in the KC metro that aren't watching MU.
So it is that simple? Because it isn't.
Looking beyond TV sets, KSU also adds compelling matchups with KU and MU along with a much larger football budget than UCF or Memphis.
^ That's real?
jfc
The Big Big East will get 37 NCAA tournement teams on average. Half of the first round games are going to be Big Big East rematches. We will laugh at all other conferences right in their stupid conference faces.
Baylor has a better bball program. In the Big East, bball is king.
no doubt thats why i suggested memphis first but if you have to go for a texas team i would still take houston over baylor. sure they arent as good at basketball but "Houston–Sugar Land–Baytown, which is the sixth-largest metropolitan area in the U.S. of nearly 6 million people" "The Waco Metropolitan Statistical Area consists of McLennan County and has a 2007 estimated population of 224,668." Adding the largest city in texas and one of the largest cities in the US is better then anything baylor can bring to the table
Its a big stretch to say Baylor has a better basketball program anyway. Baylor has a more recent Elite 8 run, but as programs right now they are pretty equal.
Besides, it doesn't matter that basketball in the Big East is king, they are going to want the best football programs they can get to build up football in their conference. If we've learned anything by now, the status of your basketball program means very little in conference posturing.
When I was a student we could actually sing the fight song in unison and do the KSU chant loudly. Today's students are just crap human beings. They are good for nothing.
When I was a student I entered the '00 Nubb game with 30 Keystones duct taped to my body under a snow suit.