Post by: IdaHawk on April 11, 2012, 11:19:21 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on April 11, 2012, 11:27:58 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2012, 11:39:17 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 11, 2012, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: hemmy on April 11, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
Actually, that might be the pizza thread come to think of it.
Post by: SwiftCat on April 11, 2012, 11:43:21 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on April 11, 2012, 11:46:42 PM
goEMAW disagrees with me, but how the US (and you) view tips is silly. Why does the server/bartender automatically deserve more than 10%?
15% or GTFO IMHO.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 11, 2012, 11:50:44 PM
goEMAW disagrees with me, but how the US (and you) view tips is silly. Why does the server/bartender automatically deserve more than 10%?
why do you think it's silly?
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2012, 11:53:49 PM
goEMAW disagrees with me, but how the US (and you) view tips is silly. Why does the server/bartender automatically deserve more than 10%?
why do you think it's silly?
because he's been to europe! :kstategrad:
Post by: SwiftCat on April 11, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
why do you think it's silly?To me, a tip is for above average service. I have absolutely zero problem tipping, but it shouldn't be an obligation. If the server needs the tips as part of their wage, just raise the price of the food 15% and pay them with that money.
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2012, 12:01:22 AM
So why does she even leave 10%?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 12:01:46 AM
why do you think it's silly?To me, a tip is for above average service. I have absolutely zero problem tipping, but it shouldn't be an obligation. If the server needs the tips as part of their wage, just raise the price of the food 15% and pay them with that money.
well that's certainly an option. seems like two very similar options though and i'm kind of surprised that someone would think one is "silly".
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2012, 12:02:37 AM
why do you think it's silly?To me, a tip is for above average service. I have absolutely zero problem tipping, but it shouldn't be an obligation. If the server needs the tips as part of their wage, just raise the price of the food 15% and pay them with that money.
No, not tipping is for shockingly poor service, like probably should be fired service.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 12:05:58 AM
why do you think it's silly?To me, a tip is for above average service. I have absolutely zero problem tipping, but it shouldn't be an obligation. If the server needs the tips as part of their wage, just raise the price of the food 15% and pay them with that money.
No, not tipping is for shockingly poor service, like probably should be fired service.
yeah, didn't think of that. i mean you either have a vote and give the person 15% for average service or more for really good or less for pretty bad. having the restaurant add 15% automatically to the bill seems like the worst option for the consumer. also, i always just give twenty. people that suck get 15. a few got ten. those few also received very stern looks.
Post by: SwiftCat on April 12, 2012, 12:07:53 AM
No, not tipping is for shockingly poor service, like probably should be fired service.
yeah, didn't think of that. i mean you either have a vote and give the person 15% for average service or more for really good or less for pretty bad. having the restaurant add 15% automatically to the bill seems like the worst option for the consumer.
If the person is getting fired, you will probably get a free meal out of the deal, not be out your 15%.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 12:12:30 AM
No, not tipping is for shockingly poor service, like probably should be fired service.
yeah, didn't think of that. i mean you either have a vote and give the person 15% for average service or more for really good or less for pretty bad. having the restaurant add 15% automatically to the bill seems like the worst option for the consumer.
If the person is getting fired, you will probably get a free meal out of the deal, not be out your 15%.
well now that just makes no sense. also, you seem like a communist. :dunno:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 12, 2012, 12:13:28 AM
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
sd, jmart, michcat, would he be better or worse than the vegas espnzone guy?
Post by: SwiftCat on April 12, 2012, 12:15:53 AM
also, you seem like a communist. :dunno:
No, denied.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 12, 2012, 12:17:24 AM
JFC, can you imagine fanning being your waiter?:lol:
sd, jmart, michcat, would he be better or worse than the vegas espnzone guy?
Post by: SwiftCat on April 12, 2012, 12:20:53 AM
Swiftcat curious question? Have you ever been a server/bartender?
Nope, I have not. I think I would rather just be paid more by my employer, and be rewarded for above average service. But its easy to say that having never served.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 12:24:33 AM
Swiftcat curious question? Have you ever been a server/bartender?
Nope, I have not. I think I would rather just be paid more by my employer, and be rewarded for above average service. But its easy to say that having never served.
3 quick questions...
1)why would you care who is paying you as long as you get paid?
2)you realize that one would be fully taxed and the other wouldn't be?
3)did you understand question #2?
Post by: SwiftCat on April 12, 2012, 12:31:30 AM
3 quick questions...
1)why would you care who is paying you as long as you get paid?
2)you realize that one would be fully taxed and the other wouldn't be?
3)did you understand question #2?
1. My apparently flawed logic that a tip should be extra. No real reason, I suppose.
2. Yes.
3. Yes, though technically you are supposed to report tips, just like you are supposed to report everything you buy on the internet sold with no sales tax.
Post by: nicname on April 12, 2012, 12:34:49 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 12:45:19 AM
3 quick questions...
1)why would you care who is paying you as long as you get paid?
2)you realize that one would be fully taxed and the other wouldn't be?
3)did you understand question #2?
1. My apparently flawed logic that a tip should be extra. No real reason, I suppose.
2. Yes.
3. Yes, though technically you are supposed to report tips, just like you are supposed to report everything you buy on the internet sold with no sales tax.
in regards to three...yeah. guess what? no one does. no one. i think (probably wrongly) that you pretty much have to report whatever would take you to minimum wage or there can be some issues, but beyond that good luck...
how many people do you think wait tables or bars or whatever for a living in the states? one bajillion? two bajillion? if the us switched over to your method of tacking on 15% to the food and then paying their employees that extra 15% directly then those full time people would immediately start taking home much, much less every year. dunno how much (10% on average?). if you're making 30k a year as a full time bartender or waiter/waitress then just 10% is $3,000 extra using the current system versus the one that has the restaurant paying the employee directly by raising menu costs. still sure that you would want that system if you were a waiter?
Post by: SwiftCat on April 12, 2012, 12:50:41 AM
in regards to three...yeah. guess what? no one does. no one.
how many people do you think wait tables or bars or whatever for a living in the states? one bajillion? two bajillion? if the us switched over to your method of tacking on 15% to the food and then paying their employees that extra 15% directly then those full time people would immediately start taking home much, much less every year. dunno how much (10% on average?). if you're making 30k a year as a full time bartendar or waiter/waitress then just 10% is $3,000 extra using the current system versus the one that has the restaurant paying the employee directly by raising menu costs. still sure that you would want that system if you were a waiter?
Yes, I realize that, that's why I included the tidbit about internet purchases. I don't report my internet purchases either.
In response to your second paragraph, I get taxed for all of the money I make right now. I don't think it would bother me if I got taxed for all of the money I made if I waited tables.
EDIT: And your 3000 lost with the built in 15% doesn't account for all the extra money I'll be making with my superior waiting skillz.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 12:58:00 AM
in regards to three...yeah. guess what? no one does. no one.
how many people do you think wait tables or bars or whatever for a living in the states? one bajillion? two bajillion? if the us switched over to your method of tacking on 15% to the food and then paying their employees that extra 15% directly then those full time people would immediately start taking home much, much less every year. dunno how much (10% on average?). if you're making 30k a year as a full time bartendar or waiter/waitress then just 10% is $3,000 extra using the current system versus the one that has the restaurant paying the employee directly by raising menu costs. still sure that you would want that system if you were a waiter?
Yes, I realize that, that's why I included the tidbit about internet purchases. I don't report my internet purchases either.
In response to your second paragraph, I get taxed for all of the money I make right now. I don't think it would bother me if I got taxed for all of the money I made if I waited tables.
well you have the choice about internet purchases and you choose to not report, so i don't believe the second part of your response. you have already shown what you would do. you'd report the absolute minimum that you had to and you'd call it good.
with the current system, you'd make much more money than you would under your proposed one if you were a waiter/tender. that shouldn't seem "silly" to you. also, what if you had the option of only getting taxed for 30% of the money that you currently make now and not getting taxed on the other 70. would you still choose to get taxed on all of it? because that's what we're talking about. also, if you say yes to this then you need to start reporting every internet purchase you make from this day on.
Post by: SwiftCat on April 12, 2012, 01:06:39 AM
well you have the choice about internet purchases and you choose to not report, so i don't believe the second part of your response. you have already shown what you would do. you'd report the absolute minimum that you had to and you'd call it good.
with the current system, you'd make much more money than you would under your proposed one if you were a waiter/tender. that shouldn't seem "silly" to you. also, what if you had the option of only getting taxed for 30% of the money that you currently make now and not getting taxed on the other 70. would you still choose to get taxed on all of it? because that's what we're talking about.
Now you are asking me if I think sales tax is fair, which is a whole different topic. I'm all for waiters and waitress getting paid. I would choose not getting taxed over getting taxed any day of the week. Mo' money is mo' money. But I would also choose to avoid waiting tables, and not rely on tips. So this is all semantics.
I still have the fundamental disagreement with a tip being "expected." I understand what you are trying to do with the big picture and show me how a 15% tip is better than the alternative, but it didn't work.
:cheers: For a good discussion. I'm going to bed.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 01:12:47 AM
well you have the choice about internet purchases and you choose to not report, so i don't believe the second part of your response. you have already shown what you would do. you'd report the absolute minimum that you had to and you'd call it good.
with the current system, you'd make much more money than you would under your proposed one if you were a waiter/tender. that shouldn't seem "silly" to you. also, what if you had the option of only getting taxed for 30% of the money that you currently make now and not getting taxed on the other 70. would you still choose to get taxed on all of it? because that's what we're talking about.
Now you are asking me if I think sales tax is fair, which is a whole different topic. I'm all for waiters and waitress getting paid. I would choose not getting taxed over getting taxed any day of the week. Mo' money is mo' money. But I would also choose to avoid waiting tables, and not rely on tips. So this is all semantics.
I still have the fundamental disagreement with a tip being "expected." I understand what you are trying to do with the big picture and show me how a 15% tip is better than the alternative, but it didn't work.
:cheers: For a good discussion. I'm going to bed.
fine. if there was some kind of judge or something for our discussion and we were allowed to go on a little bit more, i'd win easily. just know that.
Post by: SwiftCat on April 12, 2012, 01:14:37 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 01:21:47 AM
That's why I tapped out. I knew you were winning. It's like the exact opposite of Beating Bobby Fischer.
haha. probably not. just know that the next time you tip 15 or 20%, the person you tipped is getting pretty much all of it as opposed to much less if you would've paid 28.95 for that filet as opposed to 24.95. it will make you feel good. also, your "sales tax" which you seem to have an issue with will be less. win for you and win for the employee.
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 12, 2012, 06:35:16 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 08:12:04 AM
Post by: puniraptor on April 12, 2012, 08:28:07 AM
I have been told that you should tip more when you use a credit card because the waiter/waitress has to pay taxes on their credit card receipt tips. My response was "BFD. They can pay taxes just like anybody else." Where does everyone stand on this?
Never heard that, but it wouldnt change anything for me. Many times it seems like they pull the cash out of the register for the tip on the card reciept.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 12, 2012, 08:48:27 AM
I have been told that you should tip more when you use a credit card because the waiter/waitress has to pay taxes on their credit card receipt tips. My response was "BFD. They can pay taxes just like anybody else." Where does everyone stand on this?
I generally try to tip cash on card purchases to reduce their liability.
I use a 15% standard, though I USUALLY do tip 20%. I have started taking the stance that for high dollar meals, I will do 15%. Honestly there are few instances where I've had a $150 meal for 2 that had service far and above my average meal out, so I'm not going to automatically give you $30.
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 12, 2012, 09:17:27 AM
Point being, tip you server, retards.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2012, 09:36:03 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2012, 09:37:25 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 09:47:21 AM
Post by: Cire on April 12, 2012, 09:53:53 AM
Post by: J on April 12, 2012, 09:55:55 AM
"That will be 19.95 plus tip"
What do I do?? :ohno:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 10:02:27 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_7P37NqWJVlM%2FSW68WYlkt9I%2FAAAAAAAABfg%2Fo5maWXOBAJc%2Fs400%2Fpizza%2Bdeliver%2Bman.bmp&hash=95d60c817e3e3febeb4bbfeb8ef44436628ae5e4)
"That will be 19.95 plus tip"
What do I do?? :ohno:
Give him $3. If he showed up faster than you expected, give him $5.
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 12, 2012, 10:03:19 AM
Post by: J on April 12, 2012, 10:08:00 AM
"That will be 24.95 plus tip"
NOW what do I do??? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
What if I accidentally run away?
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2012, 10:11:30 AM
easier and makes the public happy.
The lady that cuts my hair loves me.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnc423.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F04%2F20943.jpg&hash=3d74aa37f54ea2e922a0e4dc36cd06d7c7c2bd1e)
"That will be 24.95 plus tip"
NOW what do I do??? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
What if I accidentally run away?
Tip $4. If she shows up faster than you expected, tip $5.
Post by: FP TC etc. on April 12, 2012, 10:38:38 AM
eff delivery people.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 10:43:55 AM
I don't tip delivery people very well.
eff delivery people.
Honestly, they probably deserve a tip more than a waiter. They drive their own car, get paid dick, and people don't tip them well. I don't understand why anybody would ever take that job.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 12, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
also, i don't feel sorry for waiters. get a real job and you don't have to worry about it.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 12, 2012, 11:00:14 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 11:07:04 AM
EDIT: Honestly, I almost never carry cash, so I usually don't tip the cooks because I rarely think about it before I show up at the restaurant. I always feel bad about this when it happens.
Post by: Brock Landers on April 12, 2012, 11:28:58 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 12, 2012, 11:32:54 AM
screw you, stupid waiter. don't tell me how much i'm going to give you for doing your job.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 12, 2012, 11:39:42 AM
you know what i hate? when they add the tip on the bill for when you have large groups.
screw you, stupid waiter. don't tell me how much i'm going to give you for doing your job.
I hate it when they don't tell you they've added it.
I ate at a fancy place in Vegas, had an amazing meal. The waiter was in his 40s and real professional, but he could tell he had a young couple and relaxed some, had fun with it, and played to the audience. Then, he pointed out that they included the tip (not really sure why in hindsight). I mena, I'd usually tip over the included one anyway, but in ChiCat's book, that gets you bonus tip.
Post by: AbeFroman on April 12, 2012, 11:42:03 AM
20% standard, plus/minus 10% depending on bad/great service
Post by: wetwillie on April 12, 2012, 11:44:18 AM
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2012, 11:47:43 AM
you know what i hate? when they add the tip on the bill for when you have large groups.
screw you, stupid waiter. don't tell me how much i'm going to give you for doing your job.
I hate this too. I mean, I tip better than the auto gratuity anyway, but still should be my choice. Also, in my biz, if a bunch of your work is in one place, people expect a better deal due to increase in productivity. I mean, it's easier to carry a bunch of crap to one table than smaller amts of crap to 8 tables.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 11:54:37 AM
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2012, 11:58:52 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2012, 12:00:56 PM
Lots of places in S. Florida put the auto-gratuity on regardless of how many people are there (2).
I bet this is because of all the old people there.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 12, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
Lots of places in S. Florida put the auto-gratuity on regardless of how many people are there (2).
I bet this is because of all the old people there.
lol, you're probably right
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
because of all the old people there.
In trendy restaurants and clubs?
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2012, 12:18:39 PM
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 12, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 12, 2012, 12:22:05 PM
I have been told that you should tip more when you use a credit card because the waiter/waitress has to pay taxes on their credit card receipt tips. My response was "BFD. They can pay taxes just like anybody else." Where does everyone stand on this?
I don't really care about them having to pay taxes on it or not. However, I always tip in cash at my local bar because I know they appreciate it and now they always give me free drinks and serve me first. If it is somewhere you frequent, play it to your advantage.
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2012, 12:22:35 PM
This has surely been discussed before, but I dislike the TIP section on receipts in situations I would clearly not tip, such as carryout pizza/sandwiches etc. Always makes me feel awkward handing that receipt back with nothing written there. I used to draw a line through it but I thought just ignoring it would be better.
Yeah, I hate those, too.
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2012, 12:30:03 PM
This has surely been discussed before, but I dislike the TIP section on receipts in situations I would clearly not tip, such as carryout pizza/sandwiches etc. Always makes me feel awkward handing that receipt back with nothing written there. I used to draw a line through it but I thought just ignoring it would be better.
smashburger
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 12, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
This has surely been discussed before, but I dislike the TIP section on receipts in situations I would clearly not tip, such as carryout pizza/sandwiches etc. Always makes me feel awkward handing that receipt back with nothing written there. I used to draw a line through it but I thought just ignoring it would be better.
Local call-in/pick-up sushi place has this in addition to the tip jar on the counter. It got so popular that it's usually a 30-40 minute wait. I started putting $1.00 in that line. Now when I call they tell me "5 minute for you, we do yours next." :gocho:
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
This has surely been discussed before, but I dislike the TIP section on receipts in situations I would clearly not tip, such as carryout pizza/sandwiches etc. Always makes me feel awkward handing that receipt back with nothing written there. I used to draw a line through it but I thought just ignoring it would be better.
I tip a couple bucks when picking up stuff. I mean, they are handling my food.
Post by: Playboy X on April 12, 2012, 12:48:05 PM
pbx
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 12, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
This has surely been discussed before, but I dislike the TIP section on receipts in situations I would clearly not tip, such as carryout pizza/sandwiches etc. Always makes me feel awkward handing that receipt back with nothing written there. I used to draw a line through it but I thought just ignoring it would be better.
smashburger
OK Joe's.
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2012, 02:55:31 PM
This has surely been discussed before, but I dislike the TIP section on receipts in situations I would clearly not tip, such as carryout pizza/sandwiches etc. Always makes me feel awkward handing that receipt back with nothing written there. I used to draw a line through it but I thought just ignoring it would be better.
smashburger
OK Joe's.
just tipped at Ok Joes today, carry out
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 12, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 12, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
How was the line, clams?
Pro tip-
Order carryout, skip line, pickup order from carry out, eat inside.
Works at chipotle as well.
Post by: sys on April 12, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 12, 2012, 06:10:27 PM
I have been told that you should tip more when you use a credit card because the waiter/waitress has to pay taxes on their credit card receipt tips. My response was "BFD. They can pay taxes just like anybody else." Where does everyone stand on this?
I don't really care about them having to pay taxes on it or not. However, I always tip in cash at my local bar because I know they appreciate it and now they always give me free drinks and serve me first. If it is somewhere you frequent, play it to your advantage.
This. I said this in one of the other few tipping threads, but it bears repeating.
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 12, 2012, 07:00:01 PM
Did not tip at OK Joe's today, dine in.This has surely been discussed before, but I dislike the TIP section on receipts in situations I would clearly not tip, such as carryout pizza/sandwiches etc. Always makes me feel awkward handing that receipt back with nothing written there. I used to draw a line through it but I thought just ignoring it would be better.
smashburger
OK Joe's.
just tipped at Ok Joes today, carry out
Post by: wes mantooth on April 12, 2012, 09:06:51 PM
How was the line, clams?
Pro tip-
Order carryout, skip line, pickup order from carry out, eat inside.
Works at chipotle as well.
You are the worst kind of person.
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 05, 2014, 03:03:06 PM
Post by: hemmy on April 05, 2014, 05:09:56 PM
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html
tipping dental hygienists?
Post by: sys on April 05, 2014, 05:23:42 PM
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html
is our country unethical or just Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? i go back and forth.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 09:54:11 AM
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 07, 2014, 10:52:33 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
I'd like to think that the hugs and high-fives I get from Stevesie are non-creepy.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 10:55:15 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
I'd like to think that the hugs and high-fives I get from Stevesie are non-creepy.
OK, if you are already friends with the server then touching you might be ok. But if I don't know you, then don't touch me in an attempt to get a bigger tip.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 10:56:30 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
I'd like to think that the hugs and high-fives I get from Stevesie are non-creepy.
Do you think Stevesie is hugging/high-fiving you just to get a bigger tip? If so, that is creepy.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 07, 2014, 10:58:23 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
It was saying to hit on the guys at the table like the Hooters girls do so guys like Fitz will give you a big tip.
Post by: TownieCat on April 07, 2014, 10:58:41 AM
I can't remember the last time Stevesie gave me a high five and I don't think he's ever given me a hug :frown:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 11:00:17 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
It was saying to hit on the guys at the table like the Hooters girls do so guys like Fitz will give you a big tip.
Yeah, I think Hooter's and Twin Peaks are the only two places I've seen this happen.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 07, 2014, 11:03:18 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
It was saying to hit on the guys at the table like the Hooters girls do so guys like Fitz will give you a big tip.
Yeah, I think Hooter's and Twin Peaks are the only two places I've seen this happen.
I've seen it happen a lot of places. It's usually a hand quickly placed on a shoulder as they're getting ready to leave the table. "I'll be right back with those".
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
The hand on your shoulder, yes there is this cafe place that the manager (a man) would always place his hand on Gooch's shoulder...we stopped going there.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 07, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
OK, the sitting at the table with you thing I've only seen at Hooter's and Twin Peaks.
The hand on your shoulder, yes there is this cafe place that the manager (a man) would always place his hand on Gooch's shoulder...we stopped going there.
You're right, though. Physical contact from a person I don't know drives me bat crap insane.
Post by: Bloodfart on April 07, 2014, 11:24:09 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
It was saying to hit on the guys at the table like the Hooters girls do so guys like Fitz will give you a big tip.
Yeah, I think Hooter's and Twin Peaks are the only two places I've seen this happen.
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"Look who's sitting at the bar at Twin Peaks."
Ron agrees.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 07, 2014, 11:24:59 AM
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2014, 01:55:01 PM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on April 10, 2014, 07:58:54 AM
I disagree with these suggestions to get a better tip.
Sit at the table or squat next to it when taking the order (No, I did not invite you to join me for dinner)
Touch the customer, in a non-creepy way (Ew, there is no non-creepy way)
It was saying to hit on the guys at the table like the Hooters girls do so guys like Fitz will give you a big tip.
Yeah, I think Hooter's and Twin Peaks are the only two places I've seen this happen.
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"Look who's sitting at the bar at Twin Peaks."
Ron agrees.
Wessel looks like a hobo.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on April 10, 2014, 08:07:01 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 08:09:34 AM
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:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 01:47:57 PM
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2014, 01:57:30 PM
Just to be clear Mrs. Gooch is a terrible tipper. Good thing I always pay.
Not true.
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:01:24 PM
Ok sometimes you pay when I am to lazy to do it. Tipping comment stands.Just to be clear Mrs. Gooch is a terrible tipper. Good thing I always pay.
Not true.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:03:18 PM
Ok sometimes you pay when I am to lazy to do it. Tipping comment stands.Just to be clear Mrs. Gooch is a terrible tipper. Good thing I always pay.
Not true.
I think your comment is based on one time that I got terrible service I undertipped. I don't think you have enough data to say I am a terrible tipper in general.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2014, 02:10:06 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:14:35 PM
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right? I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret. If I liked the food, I'd never do that.
If the service is terrible, then I am probably not going back for a while at least. Maybe if it is brand new give them a few months to get their crap together and try it again.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right? I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret. If I liked the food, I'd never do that.
had really bad service about 3 weeks ago (i'm really lax on this, "really bad" has happened maybe twice in my life). on what would normally be around 5 dollar tip, i left 2 dollars with a note to give half to the bartender for my 1 drink, and the other half to her tip outs. i'm sure she didn't do that, but at least i tried. i've been back twice and haven't seen her again. i'd honestly ask for a different waitress if i ever got her again
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2014, 02:23:47 PM
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right? I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret. If I liked the food, I'd never do that.
had really bad service about 3 weeks ago (i'm really lax on this, "really bad" has happened maybe twice in my life). on what would normally be around 5 dollar tip, i left 2 dollars with a note to give half to the bartender for my 1 drink, and the other half to her tip outs. i'm sure she didn't do that, but at least i tried. i've been back twice and haven't seen her again. i'd honestly ask for a different waitress if i ever got her again
I'm very paranoid about people doing gross things to my food. It might be my number one fear in life in terms of time spent actually thinking about it. Very troubling.
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 02:24:21 PM
a waiter or waitress might serve forty tables (and 150 people) in one FT shift, and of those tables, thirty-nine of them might have received excellent service. your table didn't, for whatever reason: the food was a little cold, your drink didn't get refilled the instant it went empty, the bill wasn't split up ever so perfectly ("no, i'm paying for the side of fries, those two are splitting the onion rings!"), and so on.
for all you know, the service was lousy for reasons beyond the waiter's control (lazy co-workers); or for other reasons (overworked, fatigue, family problems, health, etc). i suggest giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping they do better the next time. in the end, the service probably wasn't that bad, and they're still serving you and cleaning up after you.
oh, and by the way: i'm sure there have been PLENTY of times when you, the customer, weren't exactly fun to wait on...especially when you let your kids order for themselves.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 10, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.
agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:29:54 PM
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.
agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?
He is saying your kids are too stupid to put together a coherent sentence.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 02:33:04 PM
also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2014, 02:33:34 PM
If I (and friends/family) are occupying a table or bar seat for a long time, like at a sports bar watching a game, I always tip 20 plus % because I know they could be turning tables. I've known servers for years at sports bars and that's one of the biggest pet peeves, the dude that watches 2 back to back football games and then leaves a 10% tip.
Post by: TownieCat on April 10, 2014, 02:33:51 PM
i never undertip for lousy service. we all have bad days, and within those bad days, we all have bad moments. the majority of people who work a 9-to-5 don't put in eight great hours of work every day. you might be super productive and highly motivated for a few hours, and then slack for a few hours, and then your kid calls (he got in trouble at school!) or your wife calls (she's sick, you're cooking dinner tonight!) and suddenly, your mind is in a different place.
a waiter or waitress might serve forty tables (and 150 people) in one FT shift, and of those tables, thirty-nine of them might have received excellent service. your table didn't, for whatever reason: the food was a little cold, your drink didn't get refilled the instant it went empty, the bill wasn't split up ever so perfectly ("no, i'm paying for the side of fries, those two are splitting the onion rings!"), and so on.
for all you know, the service was lousy for reasons beyond the waiter's control (lazy co-workers); or for other reasons (overworked, fatigue, family problems, health, etc). i suggest giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping they do better the next time. in the end, the service probably wasn't that bad, and they're still serving you and cleaning up after you.
oh, and by the way: i'm sure there have been PLENTY of times when you, the customer, weren't exactly fun to wait on...especially when you let your kids order for themselves.
These are some pretty far fetched scenarios. First of all, customers like seven are always pleasant to be around. To think otherwise is absurd.
If the server does such a great job with the other 39 tables then those other 39 tables can tip him/her well.
It's also fairly easy to identify when it's the server's fault or someone else's. Something like attentiveness to the customer is always in their control.
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 02:34:54 PM
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.
agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?
"billy, tell her what you want!"
"umm, i want..."
"go ahead, tell her."
"i want a hot dog."
"don't tell me, tell her."
[picks boogers out of nose]
[spills over cup]
"i want a hamburger!"
"billy, i thought you wanted a hot dog."
"no, i don't want a hamburger."
"so you want a hot dog?"
"yes"
"tell her, don't tell me."
meanwhile, the waitress has now spent more than a minute at your table, while someone else - whose food is now getting cold, or whose drink is not filled - is steaming about the lousy service they are getting. then they undertip. then they go on to a forum and tell others about it.
when you work for tips, you want to be as efficient as possible; and people who are eating out want their servers to be as efficient as possible.
letting your two-year-old order for themselves is not efficient if they're incapable. if the kid is decent at ordering, and not socially awkward, then go for it.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 02:36:14 PM
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2014, 02:36:45 PM
Also, either my kids are amazing or you guys have a really bad idea of how that happens. I mean, I make my kids order. Just make sure it is clear that they know what they want before the waiter/waitress comes. Pretty simple, and they will be better at social interactions.
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 02:36:49 PM
well, it was a bad example because the ticket was only 11 something, so 2 dollars on 11 something probably just makes me look cheap instead of sending a message that she sucks at life
i throw out percentages on low amounts. if you wait on me, and i get a soup, salad and coke, and it comes to $10, i'm not going to just give you $1.50 or $2. that's stupid. you're getting at least $3 and possibly $5.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.
agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?
"billy, tell her what you want!"
"umm, i want..."
"go ahead, tell her."
"i want a hot dog."
"don't tell me, tell her."
[picks boogers out of nose]
[spills over cup]
"i want a hamburger!"
"billy, i thought you wanted a hot dog."
"no, i don't want a hamburger."
"so you want a hot dog?"
"yes"
"tell her, don't tell me."
meanwhile, the waitress has now spent more than a minute at your table, while someone else - whose food is now getting cold, or whose drink is not filled - is steaming about the lousy service they are getting. then they undertip. then they go on to a forum and tell others about it.
when you work for tips, you want to be as efficient as possible; and people who are eating out want their servers to be as efficient as possible.
letting your two-year-old order for themselves is not efficient if they're incapable. if the kid is decent at ordering, and not socially awkward, then go for it.
Just another reason not to have kids.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 02:37:33 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 10, 2014, 02:37:56 PM
well, it was a bad example because the ticket was only 11 something, so 2 dollars on 11 something probably just makes me look cheap instead of sending a message that she sucks at life
also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)
don't you customize everything you order?
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 02:39:00 PM
Rake, when i'm in Vegas next, i'm going to :Wha:
PLEASE DO! I remain hopeful that the big sys meetup is still a possibility.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
well, it was a bad example because the ticket was only 11 something, so 2 dollars on 11 something probably just makes me look cheap instead of sending a message that she sucks at life
also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)
don't you customize everything you order?
not everything!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 10, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.
agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?
"billy, tell her what you want!"
"umm, i want..."
"go ahead, tell her."
"i want a hot dog."
"don't tell me, tell her."
[picks boogers out of nose]
[spills over cup]
"i want a hamburger!"
"billy, i thought you wanted a hot dog."
"no, i don't want a hamburger."
"so you want a hot dog?"
"yes"
"tell her, don't tell me."
meanwhile, the waitress has now spent more than a minute at your table, while someone else - whose food is now getting cold, or whose drink is not filled - is steaming about the lousy service they are getting. then they undertip. then they go on to a forum and tell others about it.
when you work for tips, you want to be as efficient as possible; and people who are eating out want their servers to be as efficient as possible.
letting your two-year-old order for themselves is not efficient if they're incapable. if the kid is decent at ordering, and not socially awkward, then go for it.
ok. i agree w/ all this. i would let my oldest order when he was probably four. decisive and a stud food ordered. the youngest is now five and i probably won't let him order his own food until he's ten.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 10, 2014, 02:43:04 PM
also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)
that's probably why i never knew it was you.
"hey, how are you?"
"hey daris. i'm seven."
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Something like attentiveness to the customer is always in their control.
i suppose. but i actually prefer my waiter to leave me alone when i'm out to eat with friends. there is nothing more annoying than a waiter trying to overdo it by asking you repeatedly, over and over, "if everything is okay."
"is everything okay?"
"need anything else?"
"how is everything?"
GTFO! GO AWAY! THE FOOD IS FINE! I'LL TIP YOU PLENTY!
it's like when i go get a haircut, and bitch wants to tell me her life story. no, i don't care about your story. don't care about your family. don't care about your dog, your aunt bertha, or your summer cruise. just cut my rough ridin' hair, do it as fast as possible, and send me on my way.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
it's like when i go get a haircut, and bitch wants to tell me her life story. no, i don't care about your story. don't care about your family. don't care about your dog, your aunt bertha, or your summer cruise. just cut my rough ridin' hair, do it as fast as possible, and send me on my way.
:love:
i drive 50 miles to get my haircut just because she know's how to be silent while doing it, very rare trait.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2014, 02:49:06 PM
I am a fantastic tipper but they need to not sit with me and to keep their rough ridin' hands off me.
Also, either my kids are amazing or you guys have a really bad idea of how that happens. I mean, I make my kids order. Just make sure it is clear that they know what they want before the waiter/waitress comes. Pretty simple, and they will be better at social interactions.
Do you sit there grinning at the server like a big rough ridin' idiot during, sort of compelling them to smile about it too? Like not looking at the child at all, but instead staring right at the server beaming big as crap. Because that is exactly what I will be doing once my particular set of youngbloods can talk. A grin with teeth. So proud.
Post by: TownieCat on April 10, 2014, 02:51:50 PM
Something like attentiveness to the customer is always in their control.
i suppose. but i actually prefer my waiter to leave me alone when i'm out to eat with friends. there is nothing more annoying than a waiter trying to overdo it by asking you repeatedly, over and over, "if everything is okay."
"is everything okay?"
"need anything else?"
"how is everything?"
GTFO! GO AWAY! THE FOOD IS FINE! I'LL TIP YOU PLENTY!
it's like when i go get a haircut, and bitch wants to tell me her life story. no, i don't care about your story. don't care about your family. don't care about your dog, your aunt bertha, or your summer cruise. just cut my rough ridin' hair, do it as fast as possible, and send me on my way.
Being asked every 10-15 minutes if you need a refill is not annoying. You need to chill TF out.
I get my hair cut by the same person each time, so we moved past small talk a looooong time ago. It's comforting.
Before I settled in on going to her every time I usually tipped based on the quality of conversation I had during the haircut. You don't want to know how my week is going? Fine, but now I give zero shits about you...here's a dollar.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 02:52:55 PM
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 02:53:01 PM
Being asked every 10-15 minutes if you need a refill is not annoying. You need to chill TF out.
show me where i said "every 10-15 minutes" or STFU. :ROFL:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
Question? When your kids make a crazy ass mess, like mac n chz mushed all over the table, crayon drawings all over, spilt milk in the corner, torn up kids menu, etc. Do you try and tip a lil more? That was my worst rough ridin' nightmare in college and in the OP. Shitty tippers in mhk when this happened, but JCB's knew what was up.
Just another reason not to have kids.
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2014, 02:58:02 PM
I am a fantastic tipper but they need to not sit with me and to keep their rough ridin' hands off me.
Also, either my kids are amazing or you guys have a really bad idea of how that happens. I mean, I make my kids order. Just make sure it is clear that they know what they want before the waiter/waitress comes. Pretty simple, and they will be better at social interactions.
Do you sit there grinning at the server like a big rough ridin' idiot during, sort of compelling them to smile about it too? Like not looking at the child at all, but instead staring right at the server beaming big as crap. Because that is exactly what I will be doing once my particular set of youngbloods can talk. A grin with teeth. So proud.
Nope. game face. Been there before type stuff.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
I am a fantastic tipper but they need to not sit with me and to keep their rough ridin' hands off me.
Also, either my kids are amazing or you guys have a really bad idea of how that happens. I mean, I make my kids order. Just make sure it is clear that they know what they want before the waiter/waitress comes. Pretty simple, and they will be better at social interactions.
Do you sit there grinning at the server like a big rough ridin' idiot during, sort of compelling them to smile about it too? Like not looking at the child at all, but instead staring right at the server beaming big as crap. Because that is exactly what I will be doing once my particular set of youngbloods can talk. A grin with teeth. So proud.
Nope. game face. Been there before type stuff.
That's disappointing.
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 03:00:46 PM
Before I settled in on going to her every time I usually tipped based on the quality of conversation I had during the haircut.
her job is to cut your hair, not to entertain you. if you want to be entertained, hire a stripper.
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2014, 03:02:24 PM
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962 (http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962)
Quote
- Celebrities known to tip well (these are the names that come up again and again in articles about this): Johnny Depp, Charles Barkley, David Letterman, Bill Murray, Charlie Sheen, Drew Barrymore
- Celebrities known to tip badly: Tiger Woods, Mariah Carey, LeBron James, Heidi Klum, Bill Cosby, Madonna, Barbara Streisand, Rachael Ray, Sean Penn, Usher
P.S. Proudly in that first group of good tippers myself. 20% minimum (barring bad service).
P.P.S. The awkward situation example... I coincidentally toured Streit's Matzo Factory just yesterday!!!! I didn't tip.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Before I settled in on going to her every time I usually tipped based on the quality of conversation I had during the haircut.
her job is to cut your hair, not to entertain you. if you want to be entertained, hire a stripper.
I would suggest Sport Clips.
Post by: TownieCat on April 10, 2014, 03:07:21 PM
Before I settled in on going to her every time I usually tipped based on the quality of conversation I had during the haircut.
her job is to cut your hair, not to entertain you. if you want to be entertained, hire a stripper.
You can use your metrics, I'll use mine. There's nothing worse than sitting in silence for 20 minutes while a stranger plays with your hair.
strippers... now there's a situation that i'm just absolutely terrible about tipping. it's so uncomfortable
Ok, this may be worse :sdeek:
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
Before I settled in on going to her every time I usually tipped based on the quality of conversation I had during the haircut.
her job is to cut your hair, not to entertain you. if you want to be entertained, hire a stripper.
You can use your metrics, I'll use mine. There's nothing worse than sitting in silence for 20 minutes while a stranger plays with your hair.
no, this actually sounds like heaven
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 03:09:03 PM
Good piece on tipping here:Clear division of good people and crap people right there.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962 (http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962)Quote
- Celebrities known to tip well (these are the names that come up again and again in articles about this): Johnny Depp, Charles Barkley, David Letterman, Bill Murray, Charlie Sheen, Drew Barrymore
- Celebrities known to tip badly: Tiger Woods, Mariah Carey, LeBron James, Heidi Klum, Bill Cosby, Madonna, Barbara Streisand, Rachael Ray, Sean Penn, Usher
P.S. Proudly in that first group of good tippers myself. 20% minimum (barring bad service).
P.P.S. The awkward situation example... I coincidentally toured Streit's Matzo Factory just yesterday!!!! I didn't tip.
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 03:10:28 PM
You can use your metrics, I'll use mine. There's nothing worse than sitting in silence for 20 minutes while a stranger plays with your hair.
AIDS is worse.
I would suggest Sport Clips.
that steaming towel burned my face!
Post by: slobber on April 10, 2014, 03:31:48 PM
Me: awkward pause, "Cool."
I didn't sign it.
To keep this story in this thread, I left a $7 tip.
Also, some of you will like to know that she is a former Hooters girl.
Post by: The Big Train on April 10, 2014, 03:34:32 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 03:37:15 PM
A homeless guy was making his rounds to the parked cars at sonic the other day, I didn't give him anything, does that make me a bad tipper?
no, BUT I HOPE YOU TIPPED YOUR SUPER ADORABLE AND SUPER CATS LOVING CARHOP
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2014, 03:37:41 PM
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962 (http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962)Clear division of good people and crap people right there.Quote
- Celebrities known to tip well (these are the names that come up again and again in articles about this): Johnny Depp, Charles Barkley, David Letterman, Bill Murray, Charlie Sheen, Drew Barrymore
- Celebrities known to tip badly: Tiger Woods, Mariah Carey, LeBron James, Heidi Klum, Bill Cosby, Madonna, Barbara Streisand, Rachael Ray, Sean Penn, Usher
Yeah, I can't imagine anyone seeing that list and still thinking it's cool not to tip.
Post by: Winters on April 10, 2014, 03:38:51 PM
Economically speaking.. from my point of view paying a friendly nice smelling barber a $2-3 tip for a good sports conversation while he is cutting my hair (and if he doesn't mess up of course) instead of $100's ($1000's? :sdeek: ) to a smelly-bitch stripper sounds like a better deal. That's just me.Before I settled in on going to her every time I usually tipped based on the quality of conversation I had during the haircut.
her job is to cut your hair, not to entertain you. if you want to be entertained, hire a stripper.
Post by: puniraptor on April 10, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
Those carhops get paid more than minimum wage, plus tips. It use to drive me nuts :curse: when I was a cook there. I give them no more than a $1.A homeless guy was making his rounds to the parked cars at sonic the other day, I didn't give him anything, does that make me a bad tipper?
no, BUT I HOPE YOU TIPPED YOUR SUPER ADORABLE AND SUPER CATS LOVING CARHOP
Post by: The Big Train on April 10, 2014, 03:40:14 PM
A homeless guy was making his rounds to the parked cars at sonic the other day, I didn't give him anything, does that make me a bad tipper?
no, BUT I HOPE YOU TIPPED YOUR SUPER ADORABLE AND SUPER CATS LOVING CARHOP
The ordering person never asked me if I wanted hot sauce when I ordered, but the carhop brought it just in case I wanted it, I did, very nice tip
Post by: slobber on April 10, 2014, 03:41:19 PM
Tip the service. Don't tip becasue of what they get paid.Those carhops get paid more than minimum wage, plus tips. It use to drive me nuts :curse: when I was a cook there. I give them no more than a $1.A homeless guy was making his rounds to the parked cars at sonic the other day, I didn't give him anything, does that make me a bad tipper?
no, BUT I HOPE YOU TIPPED YOUR SUPER ADORABLE AND SUPER CATS LOVING CARHOP
Post by: Tobias on April 10, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
Good piece on tipping here:Clear division of good people and crap people right there.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962 (http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html?_ga=1.235554241.1501033041.1397158962)Quote
- Celebrities known to tip well (these are the names that come up again and again in articles about this): Johnny Depp, Charles Barkley, David Letterman, Bill Murray, Charlie Sheen, Drew Barrymore
- Celebrities known to tip badly: Tiger Woods, Mariah Carey, LeBron James, Heidi Klum, Bill Cosby, Madonna, Barbara Streisand, Rachael Ray, Sean Penn, Usher
P.S. Proudly in that first group of good tippers myself. 20% minimum (barring bad service).
P.P.S. The awkward situation example... I coincidentally toured Streit's Matzo Factory just yesterday!!!! I didn't tip.
my first thought was "group a: would absolutely smoke a bunch of drugs with"
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 10, 2014, 03:42:07 PM
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
Post by: Winters on April 10, 2014, 03:44:46 PM
I heard some guy tipped $10 at sonic last Saturday. Hopefully it went to some lucky k-state stud.A homeless guy was making his rounds to the parked cars at sonic the other day, I didn't give him anything, does that make me a bad tipper?
no, BUT I HOPE YOU TIPPED YOUR SUPER ADORABLE AND SUPER CATS LOVING CARHOP
The ordering person never asked me if I wanted hot sauce when I ordered, but the carhop brought it just in case I wanted it, I did, very nice tip
Post by: The Big Train on April 10, 2014, 03:45:40 PM
I absolutely do not tip at Sonic.
What if the ordering person didn't ask if you wanted hot sauce and you really wanted hot sauce and the carhop brought it just in case?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 03:47:04 PM
I heard some guy tipped $10 at sonic last Saturday. Hopefully it went to some lucky k-state stud.A homeless guy was making his rounds to the parked cars at sonic the other day, I didn't give him anything, does that make me a bad tipper?
no, BUT I HOPE YOU TIPPED YOUR SUPER ADORABLE AND SUPER CATS LOVING CARHOP
The ordering person never asked me if I wanted hot sauce when I ordered, but the carhop brought it just in case I wanted it, I did, very nice tip
$10??? that's like 5 foodtruck corn dogs!
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2014, 03:47:25 PM
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 03:48:12 PM
It is impossible for me to tip at Sonic. They do not have a "add tip" option on credit cards sales.
Post by: The Big Train on April 10, 2014, 03:49:48 PM
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
They do on debit cards:nono: that's non-airline or hotel point earning. Now go back and re-read the entire credit card thread.
Post by: The Big Train on April 10, 2014, 04:12:42 PM
They do on debit cards:nono: that's non-airline or hotel point earning. Now go back and re-read the entire credit card thread.
:)
Post by: hemmy on April 10, 2014, 04:28:04 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 10, 2014, 04:57:37 PM
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 05:10:34 PM
Yeesh... A lot of unfriendly people on this site.
what if your haircutter was deaf? no tip?
Post by: TownieCat on April 10, 2014, 05:59:06 PM
Yeesh... A lot of unfriendly people on this site.
what if your haircutter was deaf? no tip?
:buh-bye:
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2014, 07:21:01 PM
Post by: sys on April 10, 2014, 10:02:51 PM
Rake, when i'm in Vegas next, i'm going to :Wha:
PLEASE DO! I remain hopeful that the big sys meetup is still a possibility.
if we meet up somewhere where there are servants bringing food or drinks, i'm not going to let you tip like this.
Post by: j rake on April 10, 2014, 10:42:37 PM
Rake, when i'm in Vegas next, i'm going to :Wha:
PLEASE DO! I remain hopeful that the big sys meetup is still a possibility.
if we meet up somewhere where there are servants bringing food or drinks, i'm not going to let you tip like this.
tip like how? :dunno:
Post by: sys on April 10, 2014, 11:13:00 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2014, 02:17:17 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 11, 2014, 08:59:18 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 11, 2014, 09:02:36 AM
Tipped zero dollars tonight and totally got away with it :lol::dubious:
Post by: slobber on April 11, 2014, 09:05:21 AM
Taco BellTipped zero dollars tonight and totally got away with it :lol::dubious:
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 11, 2014, 09:05:59 AM
Tipped zero dollars tonight and totally got away with it :lol:
You're an awful person.
It is impossible for me to tip at Sonic. They do not have a "add tip" option on credit cards sales.
I've heard from friends at Sonic that this has dramatically reduced the tips they were used to making.
And Wacky- nothing is worse then taking care of a table where the parents don't care about the mess their kid is making and then leave a crummy tip. Where I work we have "vintage flooring" so all that cut up food that got tossed around takes a good amount of effort to clean up. This leads in to the whole "takes time away from other tables" idea.
I feel like we need a thread like this for people in the service industry to vent and non service industry people can comment.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 11, 2014, 09:10:04 AM
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right? I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret. If I liked the food, I'd never do that.
Noted fact that servers "remember". We have several people who come to the restaurant on a regular basis and always tip crummy. When I was new and I got sat sometimes someone from the more veteran staff would pull me aside and give me the "That sucks, that table stays forever and tips lousy." I still give the expected service to those tables, but I don't waste my time trying to be their buddy or going the extra mile for them to have a great experience.
A few times I decided to try and prove the veteran staff wrong and pull out all the stops. 90% of the time it was that same crummy tip.
Post by: TownieCat on April 11, 2014, 09:12:34 AM
Tipped zero dollars tonight and totally got away with it :lol:
It's tough to put a dollar value on a hug, tho.
Post by: sys on April 12, 2014, 01:47:09 AM
I still give the expected service to those tables, but I don't waste my time trying to be their buddy or going the extra mile for them to have a great experience.
all you have to do to get american servants to stop bothering you while you eat is not tip?
:surprised:
Post by: TownieCat on April 23, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
I get my hair cut by the same person each time, so we moved past small talk a looooong time ago. It's comforting.
Before I settled in on going to her every time I usually tipped based on the quality of conversation I had during the haircut. You don't want to know how my week is going? Fine, but now I give zero shits about you...here's a dollar.
Just found out that today is her last day :cry:
Post by: TownieCat on May 31, 2014, 05:55:14 PM
Post by: CNS on May 31, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
More like TownieTiredOfDrunkRequestsCat
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no, i don't think he's too tired of them
Post by: Winters on May 31, 2014, 07:09:53 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 31, 2014, 07:18:51 PM
The Animal's kid doesn't tip :surprised:
A lot of young people who grow up privileged don't tip
Post by: waks on May 31, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
I think it is very appropriate to tip bartenders/wait staff $1 for song requests, especially if the bar doesn't have a jukebox.Better idea. Don't bother the bartender with your silly song requests. You can listen to Journey when you go home.
Post by: TownieCat on May 31, 2014, 09:00:56 PM
I think it is very appropriate to tip bartenders/wait staff $1 for song requests, especially if the bar doesn't have a jukebox.Better idea. Don't bother the bartender with your silly song requests. You can listen to Journey when you go home.
If Mae's ever played Rap God I'd tip $2.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 01, 2014, 04:09:52 AM
I think it is very appropriate to tip bartenders/wait staff $1 for song requests, especially if the bar doesn't have a jukebox.Better idea. Don't bother the bartender with your silly song requests. You can listen to Journey when you go home.
If Mae's ever played Rap God I'd tip $2.
They'll play Hayes Carll and you'll like it!
Post by: slobber on June 01, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Tipped less than a dollar to round up a bill on takeout. As soon as I did it I regretted it, they're probably all :confused:. Bill was less than 11, I think my only course of action is to not eat there for over a month.You need to walk back in there today and say "PSYCH!" and do one of these:
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Post by: Stevesie60 on June 01, 2014, 12:54:02 PM
Tipped less than a dollar to round up a bill on takeout. As soon as I did it I regretted it, they're probably all :confused:. Bill was less than 11, I think my only course of action is to not eat there for over a month.You need to walk back in there today and say "PSYCH!" and do one of these:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcollegecandy.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F03%2Fmake-it-rain-guys.gif&hash=d080ade6e48c6d11c724c703f631adbff31c40e2)
It'd be extra hilarious because it'd probably be different employees and they'd be sssooooooo confused.
Post by: Boom Roasted on June 02, 2014, 07:47:45 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 21, 2014, 12:42:57 PM
Post by: Tobias on July 21, 2014, 12:45:40 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on July 21, 2014, 12:50:11 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 21, 2014, 12:52:28 PM
What service would you be tipping for at a drive-through? You literally were made to drive a several thousand pound deathtrap up to a specially made window so you could awkwardly exchange goods through an open car window with exhaust fumes bellowing about. No one is going the extra mile for you. By comparison, at a drive-in, someone went out of their way to come up to your car, ask you what you want, go back inside, have it made, and bring it straight out to you. How thoughtful and pleasant, tip city!
Well it's not that much different from when I go inside at Pita Pit. They are still standing in the same place just making my pita. Yet there is a tip line on the receipt so they must think that tipping is at least warranted if not the norm. Maybe the tip is for making the pita?
Post by: puniraptor on July 21, 2014, 12:56:07 PM
What service would you be tipping for at a drive-through? You literally were made to drive a several thousand pound deathtrap up to a specially made window so you could awkwardly exchange goods through an open car window with exhaust fumes bellowing about. No one is going the extra mile for you. By comparison, at a drive-in, someone went out of their way to come up to your car, ask you what you want, go back inside, have it made, and bring it straight out to you. How thoughtful and pleasant, tip city!
Well it's not that much different from when I go inside at Pita Pit. They are still standing in the same place just making my pita. Yet there is a tip line on the receipt so they must think that tipping is at least warranted if not the norm. Maybe the tip is for making the pita?
its because you are expected to tip delivery drivers and they arent going to have different receipt papers for carryout and delivery.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 21, 2014, 01:05:29 PM
What service would you be tipping for at a drive-through? You literally were made to drive a several thousand pound deathtrap up to a specially made window so you could awkwardly exchange goods through an open car window with exhaust fumes bellowing about. No one is going the extra mile for you. By comparison, at a drive-in, someone went out of their way to come up to your car, ask you what you want, go back inside, have it made, and bring it straight out to you. How thoughtful and pleasant, tip city!
Well it's not that much different from when I go inside at Pita Pit. They are still standing in the same place just making my pita. Yet there is a tip line on the receipt so they must think that tipping is at least warranted if not the norm. Maybe the tip is for making the pita?
its because you are expected to tip delivery drivers and they arent going to have different receipt papers for carryout and delivery.
This Pita Pit does not deliver. I didn't even know Pita Pit did deliver until I just went to their website and saw that the Manhattan one does deliver.
Post by: j rake on July 21, 2014, 01:22:06 PM
Am I supposed to tip when I go through the drive thru at Pita Pit? There is a tip line on the receipt - does that mean you are supposed to tip?
you definitely should. pita spelled backwards is 'a tip.'
Post by: Brock Landers on July 21, 2014, 01:32:35 PM
Am I supposed to tip when I go through the drive thru at Pita Pit? There is a tip line on the receipt - does that mean you are supposed to tip?
you definitely should. pita spelled backwards is 'a tip.'
Now do the same for Pita Pit :horrorsurprise:
Subliminal messaging at it's most sinister
Post by: j rake on July 21, 2014, 01:34:06 PM
Am I supposed to tip when I go through the drive thru at Pita Pit? There is a tip line on the receipt - does that mean you are supposed to tip?
you definitely should. pita spelled backwards is 'a tip.'
Now do the same for Pita Pit :horrorsurprise:
Subliminal messaging at it's most sinister
TIP, A TIP!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2015, 02:21:40 PM
This would have been pretty badass in college.
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 07, 2015, 02:29:07 PM
What service would you be tipping for at a drive-through? You literally were made to drive a several thousand pound deathtrap up to a specially made window so you could awkwardly exchange goods through an open car window with exhaust fumes bellowing about. No one is going the extra mile for you. By comparison, at a drive-in, someone went out of their way to come up to your car, ask you what you want, go back inside, have it made, and bring it straight out to you. How thoughtful and pleasant, tip city!
Well it's not that much different from when I go inside at Pita Pit. They are still standing in the same place just making my pita. Yet there is a tip line on the receipt so they must think that tipping is at least warranted if not the norm. Maybe the tip is for making the pita?
I'd always thought that it's just that the POS system the restaurant uses includes a tip line on the receipt.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 07, 2015, 02:37:57 PM
We have a cleaning lady who we hired to clean our house, an individual person, not a cleaning service - although she also has a couple of ladies that assist her. Last year I gave her a Christmas tip.
But this year I have realized that she is no longer actually coming to clean the house herself, only a couple of other ladies who I have never met (except for a few weeks ago when I took a vacation day on cleaning day) are cleaning. So I didn't leave her a tip this year.
Was I wrong?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2015, 03:22:26 PM
OK, so here is the scenario...
We have a cleaning lady who we hired to clean our house, an individual person, not a cleaning service - although she also has a couple of ladies that assist her. Last year I gave her a Christmas tip.
But this year I have realized that she is no longer actually coming to clean the house herself, only a couple of other ladies who I have never met (except for a few weeks ago when I took a vacation day on cleaning day) are cleaning. So I didn't leave her a tip this year.
Was I wrong?
not judging you for hiring a cleaning lady, but like who is making your house dirty...?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 07, 2015, 03:34:49 PM
OK, so here is the scenario...
We have a cleaning lady who we hired to clean our house, an individual person, not a cleaning service - although she also has a couple of ladies that assist her. Last year I gave her a Christmas tip.
But this year I have realized that she is no longer actually coming to clean the house herself, only a couple of other ladies who I have never met (except for a few weeks ago when I took a vacation day on cleaning day) are cleaning. So I didn't leave her a tip this year.
Was I wrong?
not judging you for hiring a cleaning lady, but like who is making your house dirty...?
Me & Gooch? It is not super dirty, just like normal "maintenance" cleaning like dusting and vacuuming.
Are you saying that I should tip because we are making it dirty??? That is what we pay the normal price for. If I tipped her then the tip doesn't even go to the people actually cleaning.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2015, 03:49:09 PM
OK, so here is the scenario...
We have a cleaning lady who we hired to clean our house, an individual person, not a cleaning service - although she also has a couple of ladies that assist her. Last year I gave her a Christmas tip.
But this year I have realized that she is no longer actually coming to clean the house herself, only a couple of other ladies who I have never met (except for a few weeks ago when I took a vacation day on cleaning day) are cleaning. So I didn't leave her a tip this year.
Was I wrong?
not judging you for hiring a cleaning lady, but like who is making your house dirty...?
Me & Gooch? It is not super dirty, just like normal "maintenance" cleaning like dusting and vacuuming.
Are you saying that I should tip because we are making it dirty??? That is what we pay the normal price for. If I tipped her then the tip doesn't even go to the people actually cleaning.
nope, completely unrelated to tipping. just assumed most people who hired cleaning services did so because they had people (children) making a mess in their house.
i dont think youre wrong for not tipping her.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 07, 2015, 04:02:50 PM
Post by: sys on January 07, 2015, 04:08:25 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 07, 2015, 04:13:09 PM
if you are going to tip, obviously, the tip needs to go to the actual people cleaning, not the person sending them there. it's not too late after xmas/new years to still tip them if you wish to.
I leave the payment in an envelope with the one lady's name on it...So if I want to tip them, what would I do, leave another envelope with "People who actually clean" written on it?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 07, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
Post by: Gooch on January 07, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
leave a note addressed to "the cleaners" or whatever that you appreciate their service and here is something extra to show your gratitude and leave the money unenveloped under the note. then leave the regular envelope at least 12 inches away from the note.No don't they don't go "above and beyond" what they are paid to do.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 07, 2015, 04:35:11 PM
Post by: Canary on January 07, 2015, 06:16:59 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
Post by: CNS on December 17, 2015, 11:38:56 AM
Do you guys tip on to go orders?
Yep, but not the same as dine in. I mean, half the work is still there.
I tip around 10% on pick up.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 17, 2015, 11:39:54 AM
Do you guys tip on to go orders?
It kind of depends on where I'm ordering from.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2015, 11:40:36 AM
Do you guys tip on to go orders?
Yes
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 11:40:46 AM
Post by: SdK on December 20, 2015, 08:07:51 AM
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Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2015, 08:10:31 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 20, 2015, 08:22:30 AM
Post by: AbeFroman on December 20, 2015, 07:00:20 PM
Post by: slobber on December 20, 2015, 07:46:47 PM
I've never heard of tipping the mailman but the mailman that delivered to my house in Manhattan always carried dog treats and would give my dog one every time they interacted. Great guyCan't tip them cash. I know that much.
Post by: Canary on December 20, 2015, 08:06:50 PM
I tip the mailman and the trash guys. But it's usually food gifts.I've never heard of tipping the mailman but the mailman that delivered to my house in Manhattan always carried dog treats and would give my dog one every time they interacted. Great guyCan't tip them cash. I know that much.
Post by: wetwillie on December 20, 2015, 08:08:52 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2015, 09:36:58 PM
Post by: Canary on December 20, 2015, 09:38:28 PM
Canary, you are one fascinating dude.I'm just a goofy bastard.
Post by: puniraptor on December 21, 2015, 07:24:23 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 09:24:05 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 09:43:37 AM
I've never heard of tipping the mailman but the mailman that delivered to my house in Manhattan always carried dog treats and would give my dog one every time they interacted. Great guyCan't tip them cash. I know that much.
I tip mine cash. UPS guy too. :dunno: And when I say tip I mean like at Christmas time I give them a card with cash in it. Probably wouldn't do normally but they're both awesome and have gone above and beyond for me so I like to show appreciation.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 10:48:35 AM
http://qz.com/609293/how-american-tipping-grew-out-of-racism/
are there people that don't know this?
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 10:50:31 AM
Absolutelyhttp://qz.com/609293/how-american-tipping-grew-out-of-racism/
are there people that don't know this?
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2016, 11:02:19 AM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 11:08:40 AM
I didn't know it sys
no one reads my posts. :cry:
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 11:19:51 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 11:22:31 AM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 11:35:01 AM
Tipping is the #1 easiest way to find out if someone is a bad person or not.
tipping is an immoral system and everyone who participates in it helps to perpetuate that system, and hence is at least partially responsible. however, i disagree that it is a good means of determining the quality of a person's character. whether people participate or not is largely determined by the location of their birth.
it would be more accurate to observe that tipping slowly, but inherently, warps and perverts the character of those involved. maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Post by: Canary on February 09, 2016, 11:42:37 AM
We apparently have very different views on morality. Tipping has nothing to do with morals.Tipping is the #1 easiest way to find out if someone is a bad person or not.
tipping is an immoral system and everyone who participates in it helps to perpetuate that system, and hence is at least partially responsible. however, i disagree that it is a good means of determining the quality of a person's character. whether people participate or not is largely determined by the location of their birth.
it would be more accurate to observe that tipping slowly, but inherently, warps and perverts the character of those involved. maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
We apparently have very different views on morality. Tipping has nothing to do with morals.Tipping is the #1 easiest way to find out if someone is a bad person or not.
tipping is an immoral system and everyone who participates in it helps to perpetuate that system, and hence is at least partially responsible. however, i disagree that it is a good means of determining the quality of a person's character. whether people participate or not is largely determined by the location of their birth.
it would be more accurate to observe that tipping slowly, but inherently, warps and perverts the character of those involved. maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Did you read the article?
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 11:45:52 AM
We apparently have very different views on morality.
no doubt that treating one's servants well reflects well on a gentleman.
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2016, 11:55:42 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2016, 11:56:13 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 11:59:51 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 09, 2016, 12:10:03 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
sys do you believe in commissions for sales professionals?
ethically, i don't care one way or the other.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 12:17:43 PM
sys do you believe in commissions for sales professionals?
ethically, i don't care one way or the other.
Do you believe it to be immoral?
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 12:21:08 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 12:25:29 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 12:28:04 PM
Well tipping is a commission.
non contractual. not paid by the employer.
Post by: mocat on February 09, 2016, 12:28:11 PM
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Post by: DQ12 on February 09, 2016, 12:28:39 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 12:30:23 PM
Well tipping is a commission.
non contractual. not paid by the employer.
Every dime paid to an employee is paid by the customer.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 12:38:27 PM
Every dime paid to an employee is paid by the customer.
and those customers also got their money from someone who got their money from someone who got there money from someone. it's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) line of thought, entirely irrelevant to the matter at hand.
there are power dynamics involved in all relationships. employees are beholden to their employers. paying someone is an expression of power. when everyone you encounter not only pays you, but pays you based upon nothing more than their whim, you are reduced to a position of servitude to the entire world.
Post by: AbeFroman on February 09, 2016, 12:41:45 PM
was very happy to receive the paltry tips that I did working as a server at Sonic.
Did you rollerskate? The skaters definitely deserve tips.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 12:42:07 PM
Every dime paid to an employee is paid by the customer.
and those customers also got their money from someone who got their money from someone who got there money from someone. it's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) line of thought, entirely irrelevant to the matter at hand.
there are power dynamics involved in all relationships. employees are beholden to their employers. paying someone is an expression of power. when everyone you encounter not only pays you, but pays you based upon nothing more than their whim, you are reduced to a position of servitude to the entire world.
Don't say "you." I would never sign up to be a slave to the public.
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 12:43:34 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 12:45:20 PM
Don't say "you." I would never sign up to be a slave to the public.
:)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 12:48:02 PM
was very happy to receive the paltry tips that I did working as a server at Sonic.
Did you rollerskate? The skaters definitely deserve tips.
The ones who kick your car because they are not stable on their roller skates don't deserve a tip.
Post by: Canary on February 09, 2016, 01:10:21 PM
I did read the article. But we don't live in those times. Standards and practices change. When I eat at a restaurant, the server is "working" for me. That's not a statement of judgment, it's the job of that person. My rewarding them with a tip has to do with my satisfaction with his work for me. The management pays their general fee.We apparently have very different views on morality. Tipping has nothing to do with morals.Tipping is the #1 easiest way to find out if someone is a bad person or not.
tipping is an immoral system and everyone who participates in it helps to perpetuate that system, and hence is at least partially responsible. however, i disagree that it is a good means of determining the quality of a person's character. whether people participate or not is largely determined by the location of their birth.
it would be more accurate to observe that tipping slowly, but inherently, warps and perverts the character of those involved. maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Did you read the article?
When someone delivers furniture to my house, if they are careful with the items and do what I wish with them, I tip. The guy who services my heating and air systems receives a tip from me if he is efficient and customer friendly.
That's appreciation, not a statement on their chosen profession nor a judgment of their worth as a person.
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
I did read the article. But we don't live in those times. Standards and practices change. When I eat at a restaurant, the server is "working" for me. That's not a statement of judgment, it's the job of that person. My rewarding them with a tip has to do with my satisfaction with his work for me. The management pays their general fee.We apparently have very different views on morality. Tipping has nothing to do with morals.Tipping is the #1 easiest way to find out if someone is a bad person or not.
tipping is an immoral system and everyone who participates in it helps to perpetuate that system, and hence is at least partially responsible. however, i disagree that it is a good means of determining the quality of a person's character. whether people participate or not is largely determined by the location of their birth.
it would be more accurate to observe that tipping slowly, but inherently, warps and perverts the character of those involved. maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Did you read the article?
When someone delivers furniture to my house, if they are careful with the items and do what I wish with them, I tip. The guy who services my heating and air systems receives a tip from me if he is efficient and customer friendly.
That's appreciation, not a statement on their chosen profession nor a judgment of their worth as a person.
We definitely live in times where employers don't feel they have to pay their employees a decent wage and rely on the whims of an idiot public to supplement their income. That is happening now and is a moral issue.
Post by: Canary on February 09, 2016, 01:15:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 01:16:27 PM
Then the act of tipping is not the moral issue. The act of underpaying employees is the moral issue.
they are one and the same
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2016, 01:17:40 PM
I did read the article. But we don't live in those times. Standards and practices change. When I eat at a restaurant, the server is "working" for me. That's not a statement of judgment, it's the job of that person. My rewarding them with a tip has to do with my satisfaction with his work for me. The management pays their general fee.We apparently have very different views on morality. Tipping has nothing to do with morals.Tipping is the #1 easiest way to find out if someone is a bad person or not.
tipping is an immoral system and everyone who participates in it helps to perpetuate that system, and hence is at least partially responsible. however, i disagree that it is a good means of determining the quality of a person's character. whether people participate or not is largely determined by the location of their birth.
it would be more accurate to observe that tipping slowly, but inherently, warps and perverts the character of those involved. maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Did you read the article?
When someone delivers furniture to my house, if they are careful with the items and do what I wish with them, I tip. The guy who services my heating and air systems receives a tip from me if he is efficient and customer friendly.
That's appreciation, not a statement on their chosen profession nor a judgment of their worth as a person.
Have you ever tipped your dentist?
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 01:18:03 PM
Then the act of tipping is not the moral issue. The act of underpaying employees is the moral issue.
disagree completely. with both statements.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
Then the act of tipping is not the moral issue. The act of underpaying employees is the moral issue.
they are one and the same
they are completely separate issues.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 01:19:18 PM
Then the act of tipping is not the moral issue. The act of underpaying employees is the moral issue.
they are one and the same
Well you can't just stop tipping because then the employee is the one who is negatively affected. So what is the solution?
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 01:21:38 PM
Well you can't just stop tipping because then the employee is the one who is negatively affected. So what is the solution?
have actually thought about this. the most moral response to tipping is probably to refuse to tip. much like the way to oust currie is to refuse to attend games. unfortunately, few people are strong-willed enough to pursue this solution. i wish i was.
Post by: chum1 on February 09, 2016, 01:25:59 PM
When you flout tipping conventions, you affect individuals who are at least in part counting on having tip money in order to meet their basic needs. The harm is direct and quantifiable.
Other things being equal, the tipper is a better person than the non-tipper.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 09, 2016, 01:45:01 PM
Post by: Fedor on February 09, 2016, 01:49:39 PM
I tip the same percentage no matter what service I receive. My conscience is clear.Well you can't just stop tipping because then the employee is the one who is negatively affected. So what is the solution?
have actually thought about this. the most moral response to tipping is probably to refuse to tip. much like the way to oust currie is to refuse to attend games. unfortunately, few people are strong-willed enough to pursue this solution. i wish i was.
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 01:51:10 PM
I tip the same percentage no matter what service I receive. My conscience is clear.Well you can't just stop tipping because then the employee is the one who is negatively affected. So what is the solution?
have actually thought about this. the most moral response to tipping is probably to refuse to tip. much like the way to oust currie is to refuse to attend games. unfortunately, few people are strong-willed enough to pursue this solution. i wish i was.
what percentage of your bill do you tip a bellhop or guy at a hotel that hails you a cab or an airport shuttle driver that helps with your bags?
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Wait. What's the harm in tipping? Warps and perverts the character of those involved? Reduces to a position of servitude to the entire world? GMAFB with that bullshit.
When you flout tipping conventions, you affect individuals who are at least in part counting on having tip money in order to meet their basic needs. The harm is direct and quantifiable.
Other things being equal, the tipper is a better person than the non-tipper.
pervert.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
Post by: Fedor on February 09, 2016, 01:56:12 PM
flat feeI tip the same percentage no matter what service I receive at a restaurant. My conscience is clear.Well you can't just stop tipping because then the employee is the one who is negatively affected. So what is the solution?
have actually thought about this. the most moral response to tipping is probably to refuse to tip. much like the way to oust currie is to refuse to attend games. unfortunately, few people are strong-willed enough to pursue this solution. i wish i was.
what percentage of your bill do you tip a bellhop or guy at a hotel that hails you a cab or an airport shuttle driver that helps with your bags?
Post by: ChiComCat on February 09, 2016, 01:59:24 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
Having overseen a bellstaff at a resort, one thing that drove me nuts was people accepting an optional service and not tipping for it. We did bell service and free optional valet. If you don't want to tip, park yourself and get your own bags. If you would rather have help, tip. Granted, we paid our staff well above minimum wage too. It was amazing how well tips motivated what turned out to be the best employees. Usually if I was training someone, I could pull in an average of $10 a guest.
At lots of places bellstaff isn't really an optional service. I mean, I suppose it could be, but it's difficult to turn down without being rude.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 02:08:07 PM
Having overseen a bellstaff at a resort, one thing that drove me nuts was people accepting an optional service and not tipping for it. We did bell service and free optional valet. If you don't want to tip, park yourself and get your own bags. If you would rather have help, tip. Granted, we paid our staff well above minimum wage too. It was amazing how well tips motivated what turned out to be the best employees. Usually if I was training someone, I could pull in an average of $10 a guest.
At lots of places bellstaff isn't really an optional service. I mean, I suppose it could be, but it's difficult to turn down without being rude.
:lol:
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 02:09:41 PM
Having overseen a bellstaff at a resort, one thing that drove me nuts was people accepting an optional service and not tipping for it. We did bell service and free optional valet. If you don't want to tip, park yourself and get your own bags. If you would rather have help, tip. Granted, we paid our staff well above minimum wage too. It was amazing how well tips motivated what turned out to be the best employees. Usually if I was training someone, I could pull in an average of $10 a guest.
why do you say you offer free valet service if you expect clients to pay for it?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 02:18:58 PM
Having overseen a bellstaff at a resort, one thing that drove me nuts was people accepting an optional service and not tipping for it. We did bell service and free optional valet. If you don't want to tip, park yourself and get your own bags. If you would rather have help, tip. Granted, we paid our staff well above minimum wage too. It was amazing how well tips motivated what turned out to be the best employees. Usually if I was training someone, I could pull in an average of $10 a guest.
At lots of places bellstaff isn't really an optional service. I mean, I suppose it could be, but it's difficult to turn down without being rude.
Yes.
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2016, 02:19:59 PM
Post by: TownieCat on February 09, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 02:21:12 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 02:21:32 PM
I tip my barber, who happens to be the owner of the barbershop. Can someone please tell me if this is moral or not? TIA.
It is not necessary but still ok.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 02:22:51 PM
I tip my barber, who happens to be the owner of the barbershop. Can someone please tell me if this is moral or not? TIA.
it is immoral, but since trim does it, by definition it is ethical.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 02:23:46 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 02:26:50 PM
Great point TownieCat! We hired some dudes to do some stone work in our basement. They were not the owners of the company, and they busted their asses to be done in one day, so I tipped them $100 total ($50 each). We hired another guy to take the popcorn off the sealing and paint and such. He was his own boss/company, so I did not tip him.
What would you do if you hired someone to do some work and the workers were two guys, one of which is the owner?
Post by: TownieCat on February 09, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 02:33:45 PM
Great point TownieCat! We hired some dudes to do some stone work in our basement. They were not the owners of the company, and they busted their asses to be done in one day, so I tipped them $100 total ($50 each). We hired another guy to take the popcorn off the sealing and paint and such. He was his own boss/company, so I did not tip him.
What would you do if you hired someone to do some work and the workers were two guys, one of which is the owner?
In that case I would slip the worker (non-owner) a bill when the owner wasn't looking, and if we were caught I would pretend the worker was in fact slipping me something, and I would produce a hand written note that said something like "HELP! I'M BEING HELD AGAINST MY WILL AND FORCED TO WORK THIS crap JOB!"
Post by: _33 on February 09, 2016, 02:38:36 PM
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.
You have to report all of your tips on your taxes. They make up part of your taxable income. Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.
Post by: TownieCat on February 09, 2016, 02:42:43 PM
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.
You have to report all of your tips on your taxes. They make up part of your taxable income. Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.
:lol:
Yeah, ok...
Post by: CNS on February 09, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 02:44:23 PM
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.
You have to report all of your tips on your taxes. They make up part of your taxable income. Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.
:lol:
Yeah, ok...
You actually do. Like, you can't leave your place of employment until you put them in. Your manager checks you out to make sure you did it right.
Post by: CNS on February 09, 2016, 02:46:33 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.
You have to report all of your tips on your taxes. They make up part of your taxable income. Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.
:lol:
Yeah, ok...
You actually do. Like, you can't leave your place of employment until you put them in. Your manager checks you out to make sure you did it right.
Can't you just say "I had 3 twenty dollar bills in my pocket when I got here today."?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 02:47:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2016, 02:49:54 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 09, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
Having overseen a bellstaff at a resort, one thing that drove me nuts was people accepting an optional service and not tipping for it. We did bell service and free optional valet. If you don't want to tip, park yourself and get your own bags. If you would rather have help, tip. Granted, we paid our staff well above minimum wage too. It was amazing how well tips motivated what turned out to be the best employees. Usually if I was training someone, I could pull in an average of $10 a guest.
why do you say you offer free valet service if you expect clients to pay for it?
It's offered without an expectation of payment by the hotel. Our staff expects payment.
As far refusing bell service, that happens all the time. Granted a family of 4 or people staying 4 days plus will take it nearly every time, but a lot of 2 night business trip people have their roller bag and don't need help.
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2016, 02:56:35 PM
Post by: TownieCat on February 09, 2016, 02:58:19 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 09, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
ChiCat bringing some good points about why tipping is stupid
I think it's stupid, but it is a societal norm. I like the restaurants that have stopped accepting tips and instead, pay their staff a living wage. That doesn't mean that I am not going to tip and force mistreated employees to suffer the consequences.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 03:10:51 PM
Our staff expects payment.
do you consider lying to be one of the ways in which tipping undermines the nation's morality?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 03:14:04 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 03:14:30 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2016, 03:18:14 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 09, 2016, 03:19:22 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
I tip my barber, who happens to be the owner of the barbershop. Can someone please tell me if this is moral or not? TIA.
it is immoral, but since trim does it, by definition it is ethical.
Do you tip prostitutes? Do two immoralities cancel out?
I guess it was a matter of time before there was an official Sergio thread.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 03:24:42 PM
Do you tip prostitutes?
Does she have a pimp that she has to turn her money into or is she the proprietor of her own business?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables? take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc. what's the big deal?You know how many jackasses a waiter/bartender have to put up with? They can tell within a minute or two of having a table, of what the outcome will be. You could be running 6 to 7 tables at a time, one is drunk as eff, one is needy as eff, etc. Ppl who've never worked a day in the industry, definitely don't get it. I think it's a good college job to have. Makes you have a personality if you don't have one. All the things that go into how they're tipped sucks too. Is the kitchen running behind? Did my manager over seat me? How fast is the bartender making my drinks, "eff, not fast enough, he's banging Sarah, so she's first!"
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 03:26:42 PM
Oh man what about the people that publicly lambaste a poor tipper on social media? Or the waiter themselves in that instance? They are demanding to be treated like slaves. So weird.
no one said that only the morals of tippers are damaged by the system. it warps and perverts the sensibilities of everyone involved.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 09, 2016, 03:27:45 PM
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables? take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc. what's the big deal?
:royals:
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on February 09, 2016, 03:28:13 PM
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.
You have to report all of your tips on your taxes. They make up part of your taxable income. Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.
:lol:
Yeah, ok...
You actually do. Like, you can't leave your place of employment until you put them in. Your manager checks you out to make sure you did it right.
and your manager is the police?
some big companies will automatically report cash tips but every single manager at any store is gonna be cool about cash tips. It would cause so much friction it's not worth it for them. And for a tipped employee it can be a 1-2$ an hour difference depending on how many tips your pull in.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 03:29:30 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 03:30:00 PM
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables? take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc. what's the big deal?
:royals:
wow. good job, meow meow.
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 09, 2016, 03:31:16 PM
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables? take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc. what's the big deal?You know how many jackasses a waiter/bartender have to put up with? They can tell within a minute or two of having a table, of what the outcome will be. You could be running 6 to 7 tables at a time, one is drunk as eff, one is needy as eff, etc. Ppl who've never worked a day in the industry, definitely don't get it. I think it's a good college job to have. Makes you have a personality if you don't have one. All the things that go into how they're tipped sucks too. Is the kitchen running behind? Did my manager over seat me? How fast is the bartender making my drinks, "eff, not fast enough, he's banging Sarah, so she's first!"
sounds pud tbh
Post by: meow meow on February 09, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables? take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc. what's the big deal?
:royals:
wow. good job, meow meow.
you got to go
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 03:32:26 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 03:33:04 PM
sys, if I thought you were more emotional than I believe you to be, I would love to have dinner with you at a restaurant and see you struggle with this when the check came. But I would guess you're just stoic as eff.
just because i understand that tipping is immoral doesn't mean i'm strong-minded enough to abstain. i tend to tip about like anyone else (in restaurants anyways). perhaps i'm a little more likely to withhold completely for poor service.
Post by: meow meow on February 09, 2016, 03:37:05 PM
Not a surprising take by my guy, M^2.
:horrorsurprise:
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 03:40:50 PM
It's hard for me to remember to carry around the smaller bills I need for tipping situations that can arise. I try to keep a stack of small bills by my door so I can grab some anytime I go out and think I might get stuck.
yes. I hate carrying cash to begin with, but there's really no other way to tip in non-restaurant situations. (save lyft drivers)
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 09, 2016, 03:41:30 PM
sys, if I thought you were more emotional than I believe you to be, I would love to have dinner with you at a restaurant and see you struggle with this when the check came. But I would guess you're just stoic as eff.
just because i understand that tipping is immoral doesn't mean i'm strong-minded enough to abstain. i tend to tip about like anyone else (in restaurants anyways). perhaps i'm a little more likely to withhold completely for poor service.
But like, I still would be surprised if you did something like wink at me and say "this is bullshit."
Post by: CNS on February 09, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 09, 2016, 03:45:52 PM
Our staff expects payment.
do you consider lying to be one of the ways in which tipping undermines the nation's morality?
I never felt like I/the resort was lying and I have never had a guest express that they felt lied to. Nobody was required to pay anything = it was free.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 03:48:01 PM
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 03:48:49 PM
Tipped one $5 on a more appropriate fare Friday when I was frazzled leaving my house for the airport and forgot the stack.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 09, 2016, 03:50:03 PM
Having overseen a bellstaff at a resort, one thing that drove me nuts was people accepting an optional service and not tipping for it. We did bell service and free optional valet. If you don't want to tip, park yourself and get your own bags. If you would rather have help, tip. Granted, we paid our staff well above minimum wage too. It was amazing how well tips motivated what turned out to be the best employees. Usually if I was training someone, I could pull in an average of $10 a guest.as others have said, not having cash turns this "free" valet into a total nightmare - you can't just drop a $20 on the first guy like at a crowded bar because there are too many guys and they don't tip share (?)
on a related note, if you are paying a resort fee that includes the valet or just paying the for valet service because just parking is $20/day anyways should I still feel like I need to tip?
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 03:50:38 PM
I never felt like I/the resort was lying and I have never had a guest express that they felt lied to.
i've never expressed that i felt lied to by any hotel i've ever stayed in either. but i did feel like they were lying.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 03:52:03 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 03:52:29 PM
I ended up tipping an uber driver $10 on like an $8 ride before I implemented my small bill stack.
Tipped one $5 on a more appropriate fare Friday when I was frazzled leaving my house for the airport and forgot the stack.
Use lyft, you can tip in the app.
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 03:54:12 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 03:55:11 PM
Yeah, if there is a valet fee you shouldn't have to tip the valet guy when they get/take your car.
so if the hotel charges you something, you think you don't need to tip. but if the hotel doesn't charge a fee, you feel it is obligatory to tip. in other words, you consider them interchangeable. different ways of paying for a service.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 03:56:04 PM
Post by: TownieCat on February 09, 2016, 03:56:34 PM
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 03:57:42 PM
I ended up tipping an uber driver $10 on like an $8 ride before I implemented my small bill stack.
Tipped one $5 on a more appropriate fare Friday when I was frazzled leaving my house for the airport and forgot the stack.
Use lyft, you can tip in the app.
I get 20% off uber, so I probably come out ahead using them even with the occasional tip snafu.
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 03:58:31 PM
I've never tipped an uber driver :confused:
You need to meet one and have them show you your passenger rating.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 09, 2016, 04:04:22 PM
Yeah, if there is a valet fee you shouldn't have to tip the valet guy when they get/take your car.
so if the hotel charges you something, you think you don't need to tip. but if the hotel doesn't charge a fee, you feel it is obligatory to tip. in other words, you consider them interchangeable. different ways of paying for a service.
Well I don't really know how I feel about tipping if the valet is "free". But I know that if there is a specific charge for it then I already paid for it. What are the valet guys doing that is above and beyond the valet service that I am already paying for? Nothing is the answer.
Actually, I really hate the idea of tipping in non-restaurant settings so I just let Gooch do all the tipping and don't worry about how much he is tipping. It makes me less stressed out that way.
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2016, 04:11:04 PM
Every time I get ones when breaking a larger bill, I put a few in my console so I have something to tip Starbucks ppl with.
Do you tip any other drive thru people?
Post by: ChiComCat on February 09, 2016, 04:18:42 PM
Tip story from that job that sys will enjoy: An Event Manager was putting on a wedding and the couple was doing a brunch the next day. They wanted an OJ station and I believe the cost for OJ was something like $20 a gallon. They didn't want to pay that (weird line to draw in the sand when you are having a $35k wedding) and complained a bunch to the manager. The manager eventually put the price at $15 in an effort to accommodate them. Their wedding weekend, they told her they had a tip for her. Then in front of their family/friends they gave her a gallon of OJ.
Post by: CNS on February 09, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
Every time I get ones when breaking a larger bill, I put a few in my console so I have something to tip Starbucks ppl with.
Do you tip any other drive thru people?
I don't use any other drive thrus. :dunno:
Post by: Tobias on February 09, 2016, 04:22:45 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 04:23:41 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2016, 04:24:23 PM
Tip story from that job that sys will enjoy: An Event Manager was putting on a wedding and the couple was doing a brunch the next day. They wanted an OJ station and I believe the cost for OJ was something like $20 a gallon. They didn't want to pay that (weird line to draw in the sand when you are having a $35k wedding) and complained a bunch to the manager. The manager eventually put the price at $15 in an effort to accommodate them. Their wedding weekend, they told her they had a tip for her. Then in front of their family/friends they gave her a gallon of OJ.
i did not enjoy that story. other than calling their insulting gesture a tip, i'm not sure how it relates to tipping at all. "they" (the event manager?) sound like horrible people.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 09, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
I don't know why OJ requires a "station" or that it would cost $20.
This is what happens when you get married at an expensive destination - good luck Wacky. It wasn't so much an OJ station as OJ at a beverage station.
Post by: TownieCat on February 09, 2016, 04:26:39 PM
I've never tipped an uber driver :confused:
You need to meet one and have them show you your passenger rating.
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I've only taken uber about 8 times and was under the impression tipping was not necessary. I am pretty liberal with my 5 star ratings tho.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 04:27:01 PM
:ohno:I don't know why OJ requires a "station" or that it would cost $20.
This is what happens when you get married at an expensive destination - good luck Wacky. It wasn't so much an OJ station as OJ at a beverage station.
Post by: CNS on February 09, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
I mean, you can't take your Price Chopper adds into your fav red lobster and argue down the biscuits.
Post by: Tobias on February 09, 2016, 04:29:48 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2016, 04:30:03 PM
nice try, lib. smack thwarted.
It was just a question, chill out loser
Post by: Tobias on February 09, 2016, 04:30:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
You guys know that when you buy food at a restaurant you don't pay going market rate for it, right?
I mean, you can't take your Price Chopper adds into your fav red lobster and argue down the biscuits.
no I had no idea thanks
Post by: mocat on February 09, 2016, 04:49:41 PM
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 05:33:09 PM
damn it, i have been 5 starring instead of tipping uber drivers
You have to 5-star. They get fired if their average goes to like a 4.5 or 4.6.
Post by: wetwillie on February 09, 2016, 06:28:00 PM
Post by: CNS on February 09, 2016, 06:30:28 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 09, 2016, 06:34:26 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 09, 2016, 06:35:41 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 09, 2016, 06:38:58 PM
Post by: mocat on February 09, 2016, 09:24:12 PM
damn it, i have been 5 starring instead of tipping uber drivers
You have to 5-star. They get fired if their average goes to like a 4.5 or 4.6.
Right so ive got nothing to worry about? You're sending mixed messages
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 09:32:46 PM
That would be great, but uber views their drivers as having failed if they get an-y-thing below 5 stars. If you give them a 4-star rating, you're increasing their chances of getting fired. It's a bad system.
Knowing that, if a driver is adequate, I give 5 stars. If it's a little sub-adequate, I just refrain from rating. Only if the ride was one that compels me to think other strangers should be protected from having to ride with the driver do I rate sub-5-star.
The only way to reward the driver for being better than adequate service - if you're compelled to reward - is to tip.
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2016, 09:58:20 PM
I've never tipped an uber driver :confused:
You need to meet one and have them show you your passenger rating.
You can get your rating through the app too under help. They email it to you in like 10 minutes. I was 4.5 before tipping I think, now I'm 4.85'ish.
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2016, 10:02:21 PM
I have heard multiple Uber drivers say they aren't supposed to accept tips. :dunno:
I haven't had one turn a tip down in probably 100 rides I've tipped them, most do act surprised....one ride back from KCI the driver was bemoaning people that don't tip and I was agreeing with him until I got close to downtown and realized I had no cash. :ohno:
I don't think they will give you a poor rating for not tipping but I figured it's the right thing to do if they are a average or above driver....but it is a pain you can't just tip on the app.
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2016, 11:05:14 PM
I've never tipped an uber driver :confused:
You need to meet one and have them show you your passenger rating.
You can get your rating through the app too under help. They email it to you in like 10 minutes. I was 4.5 before tipping I think, now I'm 4.85'ish.
I just looked for that and on mine it pops up the rating on the screen right when you push the button.
4.7 :frown:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2016, 11:10:37 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2016, 11:16:05 PM
I've never tipped an uber driver :confused:
You need to meet one and have them show you your passenger rating.
You can get your rating through the app too under help. They email it to you in like 10 minutes. I was 4.5 before tipping I think, now I'm 4.85'ish.
I just looked for that and on mine it pops up the rating on the screen right when you push the button.
4.7 :frown:
Nice app improvement. Just checked and I'm at 4.9!
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2016, 11:27:50 PM
Post by: Trim on February 10, 2016, 12:28:15 AM
I'm gonna blame my rating on probably getting 1-star'd for having a zombie kk with me while trying to get home from chinatown last year.
Post by: Tobias on February 10, 2016, 02:07:49 AM
4.7. I've never tipped either.
wacky, you're at an all time high imo for not being a piece of crap
Post by: Tobias on February 10, 2016, 02:09:25 AM
Post by: Trim on February 10, 2016, 02:34:08 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 10, 2016, 05:58:41 AM
Post by: chum1 on February 10, 2016, 06:09:15 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on February 10, 2016, 07:56:56 AM
A perfect 5.0 on 5 trips :gocho:
Minimum 25 trios to brag on rating. It's a rule.
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2016, 07:58:44 AM
Post by: mocat on February 10, 2016, 08:02:11 AM
Never tipped and I'm a 4.8
ME TOO!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 10, 2016, 08:04:02 AM
Post by: mocat on February 10, 2016, 08:07:20 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 08:09:03 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 08:11:40 AM
Uber is an example of a company that treats its workers like crap. The ambiguous stance they take on tipping isn't good for anyone but uber shareholders. It's worse than lyft by far.One of their drivers picked my dad and I up downtown to go to the Chiefs game at the end of the year. My dad is new to uber and he has boy like wonder with it, so he talks the drivers ears off all the time. Anyways, on this ride, we had a former taxi driver and all he was doing was cussing up a storm about how much uber has ruined the game and how much he's losing $ for his family. :frown:
Post by: mocat on February 10, 2016, 08:12:13 AM
I think i'm at a 4.7 because one time I called for one to pick me up from 'Clams (PAK'd), MS. Wacky called me and told me she'd pick me up instead and I never answered the Uber's phone call. They still charged me $5 anyway. I should have got 5 star'd for the free tip.
maybe you did, but you just suck on your other rides? :Wha:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 08:13:11 AM
Highly doubtful. :gocho:I think i'm at a 4.7 because one time I called for one to pick me up from 'Clams (PAK'd), MS. Wacky called me and told me she'd pick me up instead and I never answered the Uber's phone call. They still charged me $5 anyway. I should have got 5 star'd for the free tip.
maybe you did, but you just suck on your other rides? :Wha:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 08:15:06 AM
Post by: TownieCat on February 10, 2016, 08:34:31 AM
FTR, some of the worst uber drivers alive, migrate to Memphis, TN. The worst!
I took two ubers when i was there for the bowl game. One of them was an off duty cop who was trying to make some extra cash. When we were about 3 blocks from our destination we ran into a railroad crossing*, but he knew some crazy detour route that got us around the train and saved us from waiting for about 15 minutes. He also told us some crazy stories about a few of his crime busts. Looking back, if I was ever going to tip an uber driver it would've been him.
*Still can't believe that a city the size of Memphis has railroad crossings in the middle of it. I thought that sort of thing only happened in towns like Marysville.
Post by: TownieCat on February 10, 2016, 08:35:27 AM
A perfect 5.0 on 5 trips :gocho:
Minimum 25 trios to brag on rating. It's a rule.
That's why I was sure to mention that it was only 5 trips :)
Post by: meow meow on February 10, 2016, 08:40:18 AM
FTR, some of the worst uber drivers alive, migrate to Memphis, TN. The worst!
I took two ubers when i was there for the bowl game. One of them was an off duty cop who was trying to make some extra cash. When we were about 3 blocks from our destination we ran into a railroad crossing*, but he knew some crazy detour route that got us around the train and saved us from waiting for about 15 minutes. He also told us some crazy stories about a few of his crime busts. Looking back, if I was ever going to tip an uber driver it would've been him.
*Still can't believe that a city the size of Memphis has railroad crossings in the middle of it. I thought that sort of thing only happened in towns like Marysville.
Even Marysville doesn't have that problem anymore.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 08:43:10 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 10, 2016, 08:57:41 AM
A perfect 5.0 on 5 trips :gocho:
11 trips! :cheers:
Post by: Trim on February 10, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 10, 2016, 09:53:26 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 10, 2016, 09:55:25 AM
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2016, 11:49:15 AM
I have 0 trips :frown:
Suburban High Five :cheers:
Post by: The Big Train on February 10, 2016, 12:22:15 PM
Post by: DQ12 on February 10, 2016, 12:34:24 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 10, 2016, 12:42:29 PM
was very happy to receive the paltry tips that I did working as a server at Sonic.
car hops make minimum wage tho right, not server wage?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2016, 12:45:35 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 10, 2016, 12:51:03 PM
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.
You have to report all of your tips on your taxes. They make up part of your taxable income. Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.
:lol:
Yeah, ok...
they have really cracked down on it. Restaurants must ensure that tips reported meet at least 8% of gross receipts. Employees must report similarly, but the IRS knows that they are underreported so they aren't going to settle for only 8%. If they don't they can pay big penalties.
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 10, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
I'd say i tip a little more than half the time, highly correlated to how pak'd i am. The one exception i can think of, is when i took an uber to and from lodo Dever on a Saturday night that i had no interest in messing with traffic with FreundinSonntag. On the way back, while paked, I had to sit through half an hour of our driver being lost and telling me how much better Lyft was than Uber. Even after telling her i'd heard of Lyft, but we were from out of town and they don't operate in Wichita, she still gave me the whole schtick. Now, normally a sales pitch wouldn't bother me but in this case, she didn't as much talk up Lyft as talk down Uber. She went on to tell us about every case of abuse (rapes, muggins, etc) involving an Uber driver in recent Denver history. Now, as i mentioned the girlfriend was in the car with me, and she is super untrusting of Uber being a safe way to get around. It took me months of pleading to get her to agree to using Uber to get around and in one night this oblivious Denverite had undone all of that work. No tip, zero stars, reported the driver to uber for her unprofessional and discourteous manner.
:curse:
Post by: TownieCat on February 10, 2016, 01:13:10 PM
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.
You have to report all of your tips on your taxes. They make up part of your taxable income. Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.
:lol:
Yeah, ok...
they have really cracked down on it. Restaurants must ensure that tips reported meet at least 8% of gross receipts. Employees must report similarly, but the IRS knows that they are underreported so they aren't going to settle for only 8%. If they don't they can pay big penalties.
I was never a server, but many of my friends that were said that they would claim the tips they received on credit cards since that was trackable, but they would not report the cash.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 10, 2016, 01:18:40 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 10, 2016, 03:30:28 PM
Post by: puniraptor on February 12, 2016, 05:01:46 PM
Post by: sys on February 12, 2016, 07:07:34 PM
Post by: DQ12 on February 16, 2016, 08:58:29 AM
Pretty soon the drivers are probably going to start tipping me.
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 16, 2016, 11:34:52 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2016, 11:50:36 AM
Post by: DQ12 on February 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
where do you see how many trips you've taken?I just counted them in the trips tab.
Post by: Trim on March 01, 2016, 10:10:09 PM
Post by: sys on March 01, 2016, 10:43:32 PM
http://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/seattles-el-gaucho-is-latest-restaurant-to-go-tip-free/
:party:
Post by: Tobias on March 01, 2016, 10:44:13 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 01, 2016, 10:58:35 PM
Post by: Trim on March 01, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
http://www.ivars.com/press-room/item/403-minimum-wage
The comments to that article are pretty lol though. Saw at least 2 while skimming in which comment'rs declared they'd never darken el gaucho's doors again. I've still never heard that phrase in real life, but the comment section of the seattle times is close.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2016, 02:01:33 PM
http://freakonomics.com/podcast/danny-meyer/
Post by: Trim on April 01, 2016, 11:21:50 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 02, 2016, 04:15:03 AM
Post by: sys on April 02, 2016, 01:25:18 PM
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2016, 10:15:35 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 10:31:48 AM
I'd gotten up to 4.8. After the seattlePAK, I'm back down to 4.68. Will probably be banned from uber after tbtPAK.
it was probably the intervention that occurred during one of the rides home that did it.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2016, 10:44:48 AM
I'd gotten up to 4.8. After the seattlePAK, I'm back down to 4.68. Will probably be banned from uber after tbtPAK.
it was probably the intervention that occurred during one of the rides home that did it.
I don't remember that. I figured it was the one after chandler's when I was suggesting I drive.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 27, 2016, 10:49:15 AM
I'd gotten up to 4.8. After the seattlePAK, I'm back down to 4.68. Will probably be banned from uber after tbtPAK.
I'll strive to keep my 5.0 rating in case you get banned before the trip.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 11:44:07 AM
I'd gotten up to 4.8. After the seattlePAK, I'm back down to 4.68. Will probably be banned from uber after tbtPAK.
it was probably the intervention that occurred during one of the rides home that did it.
I don't remember that. I figured it was the one after chandler's when I was suggesting I drive.
Those are the only two trips that stand out to me. I think there were at least another two, but booze drugs.
Post by: Gooch on May 27, 2016, 11:48:47 AM
Post by: Gooch on May 27, 2016, 11:50:51 AM
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
I'd gotten up to 4.8. After the seattlePAK, I'm back down to 4.68. Will probably be banned from uber after tbtPAK.
I'm down to 4.82 after some unfortunate recent events.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2016, 11:56:18 AM
I'd gotten up to 4.8. After the seattlePAK, I'm back down to 4.68. Will probably be banned from uber after tbtPAK.
it was probably the intervention that occurred during one of the rides home that did it.
I don't remember that. I figured it was the one after chandler's when I was suggesting I drive.
Those are the only two trips that stand out to me. I think there were at least another two, but booze drugs.
The 3 on mine were all within a 5-hour period that friday night - 5 Points to Chandler's, Chandler's to home, and Cap Hill to home. We train'd to Cap Hill I guess.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 11:59:11 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 12:06:26 PM
I'd gotten up to 4.8. After the seattlePAK, I'm back down to 4.68. Will probably be banned from uber after tbtPAK.
it was probably the intervention that occurred during one of the rides home that did it.
I don't remember that. I figured it was the one after chandler's when I was suggesting I drive.
Those are the only two trips that stand out to me. I think there were at least another two, but booze drugs.
The 3 on mine were all within a 5-hour period that friday night - 5 Points to Chandler's, Chandler's to home, and Cap Hill to home. We train'd to Cap Hill I guess.
Cap Hill to home is when the intervention thing occurred.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2016, 12:12:29 PM
Cap Hill to home is when the intervention thing occurred.
I don't remember an in-car intervention or anything interesting happening on that trip. Thought we were all dead.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 12:15:33 PM
Cap Hill to home is when the intervention thing occurred.
I don't remember an in-car intervention or anything interesting happening on that trip. Thought we were all dead.
It wasn't anything serious, just drunken PI'ing mostly. It's the only thing I remember from the ride home, for some reason.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2016, 12:19:39 PM
Cap Hill to home is when the intervention thing occurred.
I don't remember an in-car intervention or anything interesting happening on that trip. Thought we were all dead.
It wasn't anything serious, just drunken PI'ing mostly. It's the only thing I remember from the ride home, for some reason.
Hmmm... sounds more like it must have been some kansas mentoring. Guessing that didn't cause my precipitous uber rating drop.
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2016, 12:25:20 PM
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 12:26:18 PM
Post by: pissclams on May 30, 2016, 04:35:14 PM
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 10:44:07 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 17, 2016, 02:59:29 PM
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 03:26:14 PM
Is it like a badge of honor to be disrespectful to fellow human beings and their property?
No. The story's on premium.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2016, 09:51:36 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 05, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2016, 09:55:56 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2016, 09:57:49 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 05, 2016, 09:58:45 PM
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2016, 08:36:27 AM
Same thing. ;) I give them change or a dollar if I have it on me. I'm probably too generous, since I used to work there tho.
that's incredibly generous of you
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2016, 08:46:56 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 06, 2016, 08:52:47 AM
the sonic closest to my work doesn't have a drive thru so i'm forced to do the stupid park and order thing. am i supposed to tip those people? any consideration that they don't allow me to just do drive thru?
which sonic is this?
Post by: star seed 7 on July 06, 2016, 08:57:13 AM
the sonic closest to my work doesn't have a drive thru so i'm forced to do the stupid park and order thing. am i supposed to tip those people? any consideration that they don't allow me to just do drive thru?
which sonic is this?
smp & pflumm
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 06, 2016, 09:39:15 AM
the sonic closest to my work doesn't have a drive thru so i'm forced to do the stupid park and order thing. am i supposed to tip those people? any consideration that they don't allow me to just do drive thru?
If you pay with a credit card at Sonic there isn't even an option to tip.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 06, 2016, 09:42:46 AM
the sonic closest to my work doesn't have a drive thru so i'm forced to do the stupid park and order thing. am i supposed to tip those people? any consideration that they don't allow me to just do drive thru?
If you pay with a credit card at Sonic there isn't even an option to tip.
I know!
Post by: Trim on July 06, 2016, 09:52:35 AM
the sonic closest to my work doesn't have a drive thru so i'm forced to do the stupid park and order thing. am i supposed to tip those people? any consideration that they don't allow me to just do drive thru?
If you pay with a credit card at Sonic there isn't even an option to tip.
I know!
Just like uber.
I tipped the 2 dudes that brought the couch $20 each. I really only wanted to give them $20 total, but only had twenties on me and didn't want to ask them to share it like they were 8-year-olds.
Post by: The Big Train on July 06, 2016, 12:36:11 PM
Carhop: "Here's your $.17 back"
You: "No thanks you go ahead and keep that."
Imagine if that happened like 10 times a day, ugh
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2016, 12:39:22 PM
Also, if they wear roller skates, that's an extra $1-2 an hour. :love:
Post by: The Big Train on July 06, 2016, 12:43:16 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2016, 12:46:15 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
Post by: The Big Train on July 06, 2016, 12:57:30 PM
Post by: Gooch on July 06, 2016, 01:12:18 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 06, 2016, 04:35:56 PM
Last dick head on roller skates at a Sonic I went to couldn't stop properly and slammed into my whip. :curse:
A carhop kicked my car once because he was not good on his skates.
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 15, 2016, 10:37:33 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 15, 2016, 10:38:28 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 15, 2016, 10:38:49 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2016, 11:06:35 PM
i give my dude $20 at christmasHe'll get Ell this story the rest of his life. :cheers:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2016, 11:08:47 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 08:00:08 AM
i give my dude $20 at christmas
I didn't last year because it seemed more packages were coming USPS or FedEx and Ive never seen those people but the UPS guy is normally always tje same and knows how to handle my packages properly.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 08:06:15 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 08:08:16 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2016, 08:13:10 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 08:20:46 AM
You know those people get paid well right? Tipping them is condescending
My guy is super nice to me now and thanked me like the next 3 times I saw him ....but yeah they are paid very well already but he seemed to not be offended by it.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 08:23:22 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 08:38:46 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 08:44:59 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 08:54:48 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2016, 08:56:08 AM
We should all wear out salaries on our foreheads to make everyone else aware if we should be tipped or not.
Yeah. That way the people who do get tips know well and good that it's because the tipper felt pity on them for their shitty salary.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 09:15:03 AM
Post by: pissclams on December 16, 2016, 09:36:35 AM
but feel free to continue being an unfettered cheapass
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
Also I guess I fail to see what the above and beyond that package delivery drivers are doing?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 09:54:13 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 09:54:59 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 09:55:58 AM
Post by: _33 on December 16, 2016, 10:02:09 AM
Post by: EMAWican on December 16, 2016, 10:08:08 AM
Post by: Tobias on December 16, 2016, 10:10:33 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 16, 2016, 10:11:05 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 16, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 10:24:46 AM
That's their literal job dude
Delivers to my requested location at my condo, handles heavy/bulky packages, stopping by my place 50+ times in a year. That was my reasons....fire away
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 16, 2016, 10:39:30 AM
Luckily, it can much more smoothly be passed off as a Christmas gift.
What do you give the teachers?
Post by: chum1 on December 16, 2016, 10:48:39 AM
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 11:05:10 AM
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 11:05:30 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2016, 11:06:06 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 11:06:31 AM
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 16, 2016, 11:10:04 AM
alcoholismLuckily, it can much more smoothly be passed off as a Christmas gift.
What do you give the teachers?
Post by: kim carnes on December 16, 2016, 11:18:26 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 16, 2016, 11:20:54 AM
Luckily, it can much more smoothly be passed off as a Christmas gift.
What do you give the teachers?
I think my wife said a gift card for a massage/spa.
Post by: IPA4Me on December 16, 2016, 11:21:24 AM
UPS drivers make like 70k or something FYIThey sure do but they like gift cards and desserts like the rest of us.
Post by: IPA4Me on December 16, 2016, 11:21:50 AM
I give them gift cards to Liquor Barn.Luckily, it can much more smoothly be passed off as a Christmas gift.
What do you give the teachers?
I think my wife said a gift card for a massage/spa.
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 11:29:31 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 11:30:02 AM
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 11:31:45 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 16, 2016, 11:38:35 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2016, 11:56:18 AM
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 11:58:59 AM
I'm gonna start QFT and LOLing and all of that stuff to CNS posts from now on in hopes he starts sending me some gift cards
Given my kid's ages, you are running out of time to take advantage of this gravy train. Better apply to the appropriate school dist asap. Middle school has too many teachers in my kid's day. They are going to have to take comfort in some other way that isn't funded by me.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 12:01:09 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on December 16, 2016, 12:01:32 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
No conf's in middle school. :surprised: :runaway:
Really? That is weird.
Post by: IPA4Me on December 16, 2016, 12:02:53 PM
Post by: CNS on December 16, 2016, 12:08:35 PM
True story. Conferences are on an as needed basis in our district for MS and HS.
"as needed" means "bring a rough ridin' liquor store gift card for xmas".
Post by: IPA4Me on December 16, 2016, 12:17:09 PM
Post by: Gooch on December 16, 2016, 12:48:38 PM
an appleLuckily, it can much more smoothly be passed off as a Christmas gift.
What do you give the teachers?
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2017, 02:31:03 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 16, 2017, 03:12:42 PM
Post by: Tobias on June 16, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
Post by: SdK on June 16, 2017, 03:39:58 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2017, 05:28:54 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 20, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
:rolleyes:
Post by: Gooch on June 20, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on June 20, 2017, 04:53:42 PM
I do not tip delivery drivers when there is already a delivery fee on my order.Same here
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2017, 04:54:49 PM
Post by: Trim on June 20, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/06/20/uber-adds-tipping-feature-matching-lyft/103039304/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/06/20/uber-adds-tipping-feature-matching-lyft/103039304/)
:rolleyes:
That's good, but it renders my stack of tip singles obsolete. Should've given them to the russians.
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2017, 09:19:36 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/06/20/uber-adds-tipping-feature-matching-lyft/103039304/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/06/20/uber-adds-tipping-feature-matching-lyft/103039304/)
:rolleyes:
That's good, but it renders my stack of tip singles obsolete. Should've given them to the russians.
Yeah I was going to the bank getting straps of 1's at a time....annoying.
Post by: mocat on June 22, 2017, 03:02:21 PM
I do not tip delivery drivers when there is already a delivery fee on my order.
that's not nice. the driver doesn't see that fee.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 22, 2017, 03:29:38 PM
I do not tip delivery drivers when there is already a delivery fee on my order.
that's not nice. the driver doesn't see that fee.
They do at some places, or at least a portion of it.
Post by: Trim on July 30, 2018, 01:36:07 AM
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Only 2% of business travelers tip Uber or Lyft drivers
https://www.seattlepi.com/chris-mcginnis/article/Lyft-is-gaining-on-Uber-among-biz-travelers-13112294.php
Post by: Phil Titola on July 30, 2018, 10:07:41 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 30, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
If a restaurant messes up your order and takes things off your bill, what amount do you tip on? Tip more % because they were nice and hooked you up or less because they messed up?
How do you mess up an order so bad that you have to give it away for free?
Post by: catastrophe on July 30, 2018, 10:52:46 AM
If a restaurant messes up your order and takes things off your bill, what amount do you tip on? Tip more % because they were nice and hooked you up or less because they messed up?
I’d tip the same 15-20 % on the full amount (as if food wasn’t taken off) unless the mess up was something really stupid the server did. But yea, a lot of mistakes are the kitchen’s fault.
Post by: Phil Titola on July 30, 2018, 11:11:53 AM
I had two situations this weekend. One was the food was just so horrible I actually sent it back (I believe for the first time ever in my life) and just split the other thing we ordered. They ended up comping the thing we did split.... So had no check. Ended up giving 10 cash as it wasn't the wait staffs fault.If a restaurant messes up your order and takes things off your bill, what amount do you tip on? Tip more % because they were nice and hooked you up or less because they messed up?
How do you mess up an order so bad that you have to give it away for free?
2nd they just brought me the wrong meal (no idea who's fault it was) ... For some reason waiter gave me a free drink because of that ... So ended up tipping 20% on what the bill should have been.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2018, 11:21:22 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 30, 2018, 11:40:48 AM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on July 30, 2018, 12:08:50 PM
I've sent back steaks a couple of times. I mean, maybe I was out-of-line, but medium rare doesn't mean with a little CPE we could maybe revive it.
this is a frustrating thing about ordering a steak, they always undercook them so they can throw it back on if you send it back. I started ordering medium to get medium rare and it has worked but occasionally I'll get burned and get a legit medium steak.
Post by: Phil Titola on July 30, 2018, 01:10:52 PM
Hmm. I've never sent anything back before, I just assume I'm a downgrade with busted tastebuds. Shame yourself thread?
Post by: pissclams on July 30, 2018, 02:34:43 PM
carryout sending food back is the worst.
Post by: pissclams on July 30, 2018, 02:38:05 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on July 31, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2018, 09:49:59 AM
https://twitter.com/MimosasandSleep/status/1024441778454310912
Post by: bucket on August 02, 2018, 10:01:32 AM
These type of people should be locked up
https://twitter.com/MimosasandSleep/status/1024441778454310912
So do you think they got the 2 for 20 at Apple Bee's? I'm not sure where else $5 would cover dinner for two.
Post by: pissclams on August 02, 2018, 10:28:57 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on August 02, 2018, 10:33:53 AM
do you actually believe that happened?
I'm sure it does happen but hopefully not often.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 02, 2018, 10:47:57 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2018, 10:48:31 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 02, 2018, 11:14:27 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 02, 2018, 11:16:42 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 02, 2018, 03:08:39 PM
Post by: puniraptor on August 02, 2018, 06:47:08 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 03, 2021, 11:13:01 AM
Post by: schreds21 on April 04, 2021, 08:49:29 AM
Post by: sys on April 18, 2024, 11:43:39 PM
https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1781098254341472567
Post by: nicname on April 19, 2024, 01:47:25 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 19, 2024, 02:44:19 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 19, 2024, 06:44:42 AM
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2024, 09:00:16 AM
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
Post by: catastrophe on April 19, 2024, 09:24:44 AM
it's a good question. and happening at the same time as the non-tipped wage is also increasing.I can probably think up a dozen theories, but I do wonder if there is an actual reason.
https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1781098254341472567
Taking out any ulterior motives, my main theory is due to consumers’ disdain at menu price increases, so restaurants basically have customers subsidize their employees’ wages in order to keep prices down.
Post by: cfbandyman on April 19, 2024, 09:31:30 AM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 19, 2024, 09:36:22 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 19, 2024, 09:52:13 AM
One that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
Post by: Phil Titola on April 19, 2024, 10:07:29 AM
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2024, 10:24:27 AM
One that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
When you are scanning the bar code in the drive through, that isn't there. It used to be a pop up after they scanned your app, though.
Post by: catastrophe on April 19, 2024, 10:25:53 AM
One that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
I get my hair cut at a local salon called Great Clips, where you can buy a card that pre-buys X number of haircuts so when you're done you just swipe the card and that's it for the transaction. The problem is that it makes tipping impossible unless you have cash cause they cannot separately charge your credit card for just a tip.
I actually find that awkward cause I know those people cannot be making much money at all if they're not getting tips. Because you see, even though you might think the highest priority at Great Clips is a great haircut, they are also very focused on making the experience affordable with a great price.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 19, 2024, 10:35:02 AM
One that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
When you are scanning the bar code in the drive through, that isn't there. It used to be a pop up after they scanned your app, though.
am i to understand you are placing your order when you arrive instead of ordering ahead of time so its ready when you get there?
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2024, 10:37:31 AM
drive through scanning app. not pre orderOne that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
When you are scanning the bar code in the drive through, that isn't there. It used to be a pop up after they scanned your app, though.
am i to understand you are placing your order when you arrive instead of ordering ahead of time so its ready when you get there?
Post by: cfbandyman on April 19, 2024, 11:17:34 AM
One that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
I get my hair cut at a local salon called Great Clips, where you can buy a card that pre-buys X number of haircuts so when you're done you just swipe the card and that's it for the transaction. The problem is that it makes tipping impossible unless you have cash cause they cannot separately charge your credit card for just a tip.
I actually find that awkward cause I know those people cannot be making much money at all if they're not getting tips. Because you see, even though you might think the highest priority at Great Clips is a great haircut, they are also very focused on making the experience affordable with a great price.
Whether it's Great Clips or any barber shop I tip fairly generously. Most make it very personal and do a great job, and especially post pandemic they were hurting for business and it's worth throwing a few extra at them.
Post by: Spracne on April 19, 2024, 12:50:39 PM
One that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
I get my hair cut at a local salon called Great Clips, where you can buy a card that pre-buys X number of haircuts so when you're done you just swipe the card and that's it for the transaction. The problem is that it makes tipping impossible unless you have cash cause they cannot separately charge your credit card for just a tip.
I actually find that awkward cause I know those people cannot be making much money at all if they're not getting tips. Because you see, even though you might think the highest priority at Great Clips is a great haircut, they are also very focused on making the experience affordable with a great price.
JFC, you're still going to Great Clips? I hope you bring cash every single time.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 19, 2024, 01:52:06 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 19, 2024, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 19, 2024, 02:22:12 PM
Is there anything your wife cannot do?Her cello playing has really gone downhill
Post by: OB_Won on April 20, 2024, 12:25:21 AM
Wife cuts my hair, honestly does a better job than great clips. Maybe I should start tipping her?You should. Sometimes I give her just the tip. Hey Oh!!! jk
Post by: chum1 on May 03, 2024, 11:28:44 PM
Post by: Katpappy on May 04, 2024, 07:41:49 PM
One that seems to be going in the opposite direction of the norm: Starbucks.
They incentivize you to use their app via free crap every so often, birthday drinks, etc. The app used to ask you, after every purchase, how much you would like to tip. They took that function away a year or so ago. So now, you pay with the app, but if you don't have cash(lol, what's that) their employees get no tip. Kinda wild.
I assume they found some legal reason to stop doing this and just took the option away before they got sued, but who knows. Given the tip environment everywhere else, this one is a head scratcher.
when you are checking out on the starbucks app it has the total at the bottom and then a little button that says "wanna leave a tip?" but you do not have to engage with that button in order to complete your order.
I get my hair cut at a local salon called Great Clips, where you can buy a card that pre-buys X number of haircuts so when you're done you just swipe the card and that's it for the transaction. The problem is that it makes tipping impossible unless you have cash cause they cannot separately charge your credit card for just a tip.
I actually find that awkward cause I know those people cannot be making much money at all if they're not getting tips. Because you see, even though you might think the highest priority at Great Clips is a great haircut, they are also very focused on making the experience affordable with a great price.
I call it bullcrap. Most folks paid the amount with a credit card and then threw a five spot on the counter for a tip. I bring a 20 spot and give it to the gal at Great Clips. It's a nice and easy way to pay your stylist.