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Re: Tipping
« Reply #100 on: April 10, 2014, 02:01:24 PM »
Just to be clear Mrs. Gooch is a terrible tipper. Good thing I always pay.

Not true.
Ok sometimes you pay when I am to lazy to do it. Tipping comment stands.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #101 on: April 10, 2014, 02:03:18 PM »
Just to be clear Mrs. Gooch is a terrible tipper. Good thing I always pay.

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Ok sometimes you pay when I am to lazy to do it. Tipping comment stands.

I think your comment is based on one time that I got terrible service I undertipped. I don't think you have enough data to say I am a terrible tipper in general.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #102 on: April 10, 2014, 02:10:06 PM »
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right?  I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret.  If I liked the food, I'd never do that. 
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #103 on: April 10, 2014, 02:14:35 PM »
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right?  I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret.  If I liked the food, I'd never do that.

If the service is terrible, then I am probably not going back for a while at least. Maybe if it is brand new give them a few months to get their crap together and try it again.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #104 on: April 10, 2014, 02:17:25 PM »
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right?  I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret.  If I liked the food, I'd never do that. 

had really bad service about 3 weeks ago (i'm really lax on this, "really bad" has happened maybe twice in my life).  on what would normally be around 5 dollar tip, i left 2 dollars with a note to give half to the bartender for my 1 drink, and the other half to her tip outs.  i'm sure she didn't do that, but at least i tried.  i've been back twice and haven't seen her again.  i'd honestly ask for a different waitress if i ever got her again
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2014, 02:23:47 PM »
Question about the punishment tip: once you under tip like that you don't go back right?  I mean if they're still there and they remember you, then they might do bad things to your food in secret.  If I liked the food, I'd never do that. 

had really bad service about 3 weeks ago (i'm really lax on this, "really bad" has happened maybe twice in my life).  on what would normally be around 5 dollar tip, i left 2 dollars with a note to give half to the bartender for my 1 drink, and the other half to her tip outs.  i'm sure she didn't do that, but at least i tried.  i've been back twice and haven't seen her again.  i'd honestly ask for a different waitress if i ever got her again

I'm very paranoid about people doing gross things to my food.  It might be my number one fear in life in terms of time spent actually thinking about it.  Very troubling. 
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #106 on: April 10, 2014, 02:24:21 PM »
i never undertip for lousy service. we all have bad days, and within those bad days, we all have bad moments. the majority of people who work a 9-to-5 don't put in eight great hours of work every day. you might be super productive and highly motivated for a few hours, and then slack for a few hours, and then your kid calls (he got in trouble at school!) or your wife calls (she's sick, you're cooking dinner tonight!) and suddenly, your mind is in a different place.

a waiter or waitress might serve forty tables (and 150 people) in one FT shift, and of those tables, thirty-nine of them might have received excellent service. your table didn't, for whatever reason: the food was a little cold, your drink didn't get refilled the instant it went empty, the bill wasn't split up ever so perfectly ("no, i'm paying for the side of fries, those two are splitting the onion rings!"), and so on.

for all you know, the service was lousy for reasons beyond the waiter's control (lazy co-workers); or for other reasons (overworked, fatigue, family problems, health, etc). i suggest giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping they do better the next time. in the end, the service probably wasn't that bad, and they're still serving you and cleaning up after you.

oh, and by the way: i'm sure there have been PLENTY of times when you, the customer, weren't exactly fun to wait on...especially when you let your kids order for themselves.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #107 on: April 10, 2014, 02:28:46 PM »
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.

agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #108 on: April 10, 2014, 02:29:54 PM »
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.

agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?

He is saying your kids are too stupid to put together a coherent sentence.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #109 on: April 10, 2014, 02:33:04 PM »
well, it was a bad example because the ticket was only 11 something, so 2 dollars on 11 something probably just makes me look cheap instead of sending a message that she sucks at life

also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #110 on: April 10, 2014, 02:33:34 PM »
I always tip 16 to 20%.  For it to be any lower it has to be absolutely awful.   

If I (and friends/family) are occupying a table or bar seat for a long time, like at a sports bar watching a game, I always tip 20 plus % because I know they could be turning tables.   I've known servers for years at sports bars and that's one of the biggest pet peeves, the dude that watches 2 back to back football games and then leaves a 10% tip. 


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Re: Tipping
« Reply #111 on: April 10, 2014, 02:33:51 PM »
i never undertip for lousy service. we all have bad days, and within those bad days, we all have bad moments. the majority of people who work a 9-to-5 don't put in eight great hours of work every day. you might be super productive and highly motivated for a few hours, and then slack for a few hours, and then your kid calls (he got in trouble at school!) or your wife calls (she's sick, you're cooking dinner tonight!) and suddenly, your mind is in a different place.

a waiter or waitress might serve forty tables (and 150 people) in one FT shift, and of those tables, thirty-nine of them might have received excellent service. your table didn't, for whatever reason: the food was a little cold, your drink didn't get refilled the instant it went empty, the bill wasn't split up ever so perfectly ("no, i'm paying for the side of fries, those two are splitting the onion rings!"), and so on.

for all you know, the service was lousy for reasons beyond the waiter's control (lazy co-workers); or for other reasons (overworked, fatigue, family problems, health, etc). i suggest giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping they do better the next time. in the end, the service probably wasn't that bad, and they're still serving you and cleaning up after you.

oh, and by the way: i'm sure there have been PLENTY of times when you, the customer, weren't exactly fun to wait on...especially when you let your kids order for themselves.

These are some pretty far fetched scenarios. First of all, customers like seven are always pleasant to be around. To think otherwise is absurd.

If the server does such a great job with the other 39 tables then those other 39 tables can tip him/her well.

It's also fairly easy to identify when it's the server's fault or someone else's. Something like attentiveness to the customer is always in their control.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #112 on: April 10, 2014, 02:34:54 PM »
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.

agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?

"billy, tell her what you want!"

"umm, i want..."

"go ahead, tell her."

"i want a hot dog."

"don't tell me, tell her."

[picks boogers out of nose]

[spills over cup]

"i want a hamburger!"

"billy, i thought you wanted a hot dog."

"no, i don't want a hamburger."

"so you want a hot dog?"

"yes"

"tell her, don't tell me."

meanwhile, the waitress has now spent more than a minute at your table, while someone else - whose food is now getting cold, or whose drink is not filled - is steaming about the lousy service they are getting. then they undertip. then they go on to a forum and tell others about it.

when you work for tips, you want to be as efficient as possible; and people who are eating out want their servers to be as efficient as possible.

letting your two-year-old order for themselves is not efficient if they're incapable. if the kid is decent at ordering, and not socially awkward, then go for it.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #113 on: April 10, 2014, 02:36:14 PM »
My god, rake gets it!  :love:

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #114 on: April 10, 2014, 02:36:45 PM »
I am a fantastic tipper but they need to not sit with me and to keep their rough ridin' hands off me.

Also, either my kids are amazing or you guys have a really bad idea of how that happens.  I mean, I make my kids order.  Just make sure it is clear that they know what they want before the waiter/waitress comes. Pretty simple, and they will be better at social interactions. 

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #115 on: April 10, 2014, 02:36:49 PM »
well, it was a bad example because the ticket was only 11 something, so 2 dollars on 11 something probably just makes me look cheap instead of sending a message that she sucks at life


i throw out percentages on low amounts. if you wait on me, and i get a soup, salad and coke, and it comes to $10, i'm not going to just give you $1.50 or $2. that's stupid. you're getting at least $3 and possibly $5.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #116 on: April 10, 2014, 02:37:01 PM »
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.

agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?

"billy, tell her what you want!"

"umm, i want..."

"go ahead, tell her."

"i want a hot dog."

"don't tell me, tell her."

[picks boogers out of nose]

[spills over cup]

"i want a hamburger!"

"billy, i thought you wanted a hot dog."

"no, i don't want a hamburger."

"so you want a hot dog?"

"yes"

"tell her, don't tell me."

meanwhile, the waitress has now spent more than a minute at your table, while someone else - whose food is now getting cold, or whose drink is not filled - is steaming about the lousy service they are getting. then they undertip. then they go on to a forum and tell others about it.

when you work for tips, you want to be as efficient as possible; and people who are eating out want their servers to be as efficient as possible.

letting your two-year-old order for themselves is not efficient if they're incapable. if the kid is decent at ordering, and not socially awkward, then go for it.

Just another reason not to have kids.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #117 on: April 10, 2014, 02:37:33 PM »
Rake, when i'm in Vegas next, i'm going to  :Wha:

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #118 on: April 10, 2014, 02:37:56 PM »
well, it was a bad example because the ticket was only 11 something, so 2 dollars on 11 something probably just makes me look cheap instead of sending a message that she sucks at life

also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)

don't you customize everything you order?

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #119 on: April 10, 2014, 02:39:00 PM »
Rake, when i'm in Vegas next, i'm going to  :Wha:

PLEASE DO! I remain hopeful that the big sys meetup is still a possibility.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2014, 02:39:18 PM »
well, it was a bad example because the ticket was only 11 something, so 2 dollars on 11 something probably just makes me look cheap instead of sending a message that she sucks at life

also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)

don't you customize everything you order?

not everything!
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #121 on: April 10, 2014, 02:41:46 PM »
especially when you let your kids order for themselves.

agree with everything but you lost me here. kids can't order for themselves?

"billy, tell her what you want!"

"umm, i want..."

"go ahead, tell her."

"i want a hot dog."

"don't tell me, tell her."

[picks boogers out of nose]

[spills over cup]

"i want a hamburger!"

"billy, i thought you wanted a hot dog."

"no, i don't want a hamburger."

"so you want a hot dog?"

"yes"

"tell her, don't tell me."

meanwhile, the waitress has now spent more than a minute at your table, while someone else - whose food is now getting cold, or whose drink is not filled - is steaming about the lousy service they are getting. then they undertip. then they go on to a forum and tell others about it.

when you work for tips, you want to be as efficient as possible; and people who are eating out want their servers to be as efficient as possible.

letting your two-year-old order for themselves is not efficient if they're incapable. if the kid is decent at ordering, and not socially awkward, then go for it.

ok. i agree w/ all this. i would let my oldest order when he was probably four. decisive and a stud food ordered. the youngest is now five and i probably won't let him order his own food until he's ten.

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« Reply #122 on: April 10, 2014, 02:43:04 PM »

also, i'm a perfect customer, everytime (cept sometimes i speak softly)

that's probably why i never knew it was you.

"hey, how are you?"
"hey daris. i'm seven."

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #123 on: April 10, 2014, 02:44:57 PM »
Something like attentiveness to the customer is always in their control.

i suppose. but i actually prefer my waiter to leave me alone when i'm out to eat with friends. there is nothing more annoying than a waiter trying to overdo it by asking you repeatedly, over and over, "if everything is okay."

"is everything okay?"

"need anything else?"

"how is everything?"

GTFO! GO AWAY! THE FOOD IS FINE! I'LL TIP YOU PLENTY!

it's like when i go get a haircut, and bitch wants to tell me her life story. no, i don't care about your story. don't care about your family. don't care about your dog, your aunt bertha, or your summer cruise. just cut my rough ridin' hair, do it as fast as possible, and send me on my way.

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« Reply #124 on: April 10, 2014, 02:47:24 PM »
it's like when i go get a haircut, and bitch wants to tell me her life story. no, i don't care about your story. don't care about your family. don't care about your dog, your aunt bertha, or your summer cruise. just cut my rough ridin' hair, do it as fast as possible, and send me on my way.

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i drive 50 miles to get my haircut just because she know's how to be silent while doing it, very rare trait.
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