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Re: Tipping
« Reply #300 on: February 09, 2016, 03:10:51 PM »
Our staff expects payment.

do you consider lying to be one of the ways in which tipping undermines the nation's morality?
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #301 on: February 09, 2016, 03:14:04 PM »
I can understand thinking tipping is stupid, but I bet 98% of ppl who have angst towards it, have never served a table in their life!

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #302 on: February 09, 2016, 03:14:30 PM »
Do you tip prostitutes?  Do two immoralities cancel out?  What about a blackjack dealer?  Is my Christmas bonus considered a tip?  If someone charges me something for a service, and I am so pleased I feel compelled to pay more, is that a tip, and am I therefore racist?  So much pondering to do.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #303 on: February 09, 2016, 03:18:14 PM »
I think you know the answer to all those questions
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #304 on: February 09, 2016, 03:19:22 PM »
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables?  take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc.  what's the big deal?

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #305 on: February 09, 2016, 03:21:25 PM »
Oh man what about the people that publicly lambaste a poor tipper on social media?  Or the waiter themselves in that instance?  They are demanding to be treated like slaves.  So weird.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #306 on: February 09, 2016, 03:22:59 PM »
I tip my barber, who happens to be the owner of the barbershop. Can someone please tell me if this is moral or not? TIA.

it is immoral, but since trim does it, by definition it is ethical.

Do you tip prostitutes?  Do two immoralities cancel out?

I guess it was a matter of time before there was an official Sergio thread.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #307 on: February 09, 2016, 03:24:42 PM »
Do you tip prostitutes? 

Does she have a pimp that she has to turn her money into or is she the proprietor of her own business?

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #308 on: February 09, 2016, 03:26:27 PM »
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables?  take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc.  what's the big deal?
You know how many jackasses a waiter/bartender have to put up with? They can tell within a minute or two of having a table, of what the outcome will be. You could be running 6 to 7 tables at a time, one is drunk as eff, one is needy as eff, etc. Ppl who've never worked a day in the industry, definitely don't get it. I think it's a good college job to have. Makes you have a personality if you don't have one. All the things that go into how they're tipped sucks too. Is the kitchen running behind? Did my manager over seat me? How fast is the bartender making my drinks, "eff, not fast enough, he's banging Sarah, so she's first!"

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #309 on: February 09, 2016, 03:26:42 PM »
Oh man what about the people that publicly lambaste a poor tipper on social media?  Or the waiter themselves in that instance?  They are demanding to be treated like slaves.  So weird.

no one said that only the morals of tippers are damaged by the system.  it warps and perverts the sensibilities of everyone involved.
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #310 on: February 09, 2016, 03:27:45 PM »
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables?  take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc.  what's the big deal?

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #311 on: February 09, 2016, 03:28:13 PM »
I always thought one of the perks of working for tips was that you didn't have to claim that money on your taxes. Maybe some of it, but definitely not all of it. So if you think about it the recipients of the tips are the ones who are being immoral AND unethical.

You have to report all of your tips on your taxes.  They make up part of your taxable income.  Also you have to pay social security and medicare taxes on it.

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Yeah, ok...

You actually do. Like, you can't leave your place of employment until you put them in. Your manager checks you out to make sure you did it right.

and your manager is the police?
some big companies will automatically report cash tips but every single manager at any store is gonna be cool about cash tips. It would cause so much friction it's not worth it for them. And for a tipped employee it can be a 1-2$ an hour difference depending on how many tips your pull in.
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #312 on: February 09, 2016, 03:29:30 PM »
sys, if I thought you were more emotional than I believe you to be, I would love to have dinner with you at a restaurant and see you struggle with this when the check came.  But I would guess you're just stoic as eff.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #313 on: February 09, 2016, 03:30:00 PM »
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables?  take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc.  what's the big deal?

:royals:

wow.  good job, meow meow.
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #314 on: February 09, 2016, 03:30:54 PM »
It's hard for me to remember to carry around the smaller bills I need for tipping situations that can arise. I try to keep a stack of small bills by my door so I can grab some anytime I go out and think I might get stuck.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #315 on: February 09, 2016, 03:31:16 PM »
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables?  take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc.  what's the big deal?
You know how many jackasses a waiter/bartender have to put up with? They can tell within a minute or two of having a table, of what the outcome will be. You could be running 6 to 7 tables at a time, one is drunk as eff, one is needy as eff, etc. Ppl who've never worked a day in the industry, definitely don't get it. I think it's a good college job to have. Makes you have a personality if you don't have one. All the things that go into how they're tipped sucks too. Is the kitchen running behind? Did my manager over seat me? How fast is the bartender making my drinks, "eff, not fast enough, he's banging Sarah, so she's first!"

sounds pud tbh

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #316 on: February 09, 2016, 03:31:54 PM »
is there a more pud job in the world than waiting tables?  take an order, write it down, bring food, fill a glass with water, wader check please, etc.  what's the big deal?

:royals:

wow.  good job, meow meow.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #317 on: February 09, 2016, 03:32:26 PM »
Not a surprising take by my guy, M^2.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #318 on: February 09, 2016, 03:33:04 PM »
sys, if I thought you were more emotional than I believe you to be, I would love to have dinner with you at a restaurant and see you struggle with this when the check came.  But I would guess you're just stoic as eff.

just because i understand that tipping is immoral doesn't mean i'm strong-minded enough to abstain.  i tend to tip about like anyone else (in restaurants anyways).  perhaps i'm a little more likely to withhold completely for poor service.
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Re: Tipping
« Reply #319 on: February 09, 2016, 03:37:05 PM »
Not a surprising take by my guy, M^2.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #320 on: February 09, 2016, 03:40:50 PM »
It's hard for me to remember to carry around the smaller bills I need for tipping situations that can arise. I try to keep a stack of small bills by my door so I can grab some anytime I go out and think I might get stuck.

yes. I hate carrying cash to begin with, but there's really no other way to tip in non-restaurant situations. (save lyft drivers)

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #321 on: February 09, 2016, 03:41:30 PM »
sys, if I thought you were more emotional than I believe you to be, I would love to have dinner with you at a restaurant and see you struggle with this when the check came.  But I would guess you're just stoic as eff.

just because i understand that tipping is immoral doesn't mean i'm strong-minded enough to abstain.  i tend to tip about like anyone else (in restaurants anyways).  perhaps i'm a little more likely to withhold completely for poor service.

But like, I still would be surprised if you did something like wink at me and say "this is bullshit."

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #322 on: February 09, 2016, 03:42:15 PM »
Every time I get ones when breaking a larger bill, I put a few in my console so I have something to tip Starbucks ppl with.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #323 on: February 09, 2016, 03:45:52 PM »
Our staff expects payment.

do you consider lying to be one of the ways in which tipping undermines the nation's morality?

I never felt like I/the resort was lying and I have never had a guest express that they felt lied to.  Nobody was required to pay anything = it was free.

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Re: Tipping
« Reply #324 on: February 09, 2016, 03:48:01 PM »
It's like when you are supposed to give a "donation" for a charity raffle. You don't legally have to give anything to enter, but people are going to hate you if you try not to pay.