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Re: Delton
« Reply #75 on: September 16, 2015, 12:42:57 PM »
put names on them so I know who's who after waiting in the wings

yeah, i've got better odds of picking out dogbite from deathbite than figuring fan's post out

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Re: Delton
« Reply #76 on: September 16, 2015, 12:43:09 PM »
  "or maybe the present (#3)" could fit another eye between his eyes

i wonder if that gap makes it hard for LB's to figure out what WR he's aiming for


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

New warning: Don't get in a fight with someone who doesn't even need to bother to buy ink.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #77 on: September 16, 2015, 12:43:30 PM »
Also, Landon's last name is Root. Everytime I read it I think of Guardians of the Galaxy.

"I am Roooooot."

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Re: Delton
« Reply #78 on: September 16, 2015, 12:44:30 PM »
Joe's left eye is squinted quite a bit. Maybe that makes the short throws more difficult. :dunno:

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Re: Delton
« Reply #79 on: September 16, 2015, 12:48:42 PM »
 :cry: #1



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Re: Delton
« Reply #80 on: September 16, 2015, 01:00:06 PM »
I feel like it could be low-risk, high-reward if CaLove gets thrust into action without "knowing the offense" and does whatever he wants.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #81 on: September 16, 2015, 01:06:56 PM »
also, look how attractive our QBs are  :love:
Only one of them is above a 5.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #82 on: September 16, 2015, 01:07:15 PM »
:waitingforMIRtoreviewthatRSanalysis:

Very believably because of the source, but it was stupid. I haven't read this thread beyond the post I'm quoting so I'm guessing it's already been shredded.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #83 on: September 16, 2015, 01:09:21 PM »
:waitingforMIRtoreviewthatRSanalysis:

Very believably because of the source, but it was stupid. I haven't read this thread beyond the post I'm quoting so I'm guessing it's already been shredded.

Not in the manner I prefer.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #84 on: September 16, 2015, 01:12:08 PM »
KYLE KLEIN COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!

Dana will just move Winston to QB.....problem solved!

Pretty disappointed it took nearly two full pages to see this post, happy that my man XocolateThundarr made it

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Re: Delton
« Reply #85 on: September 16, 2015, 01:27:44 PM »
Not our year.

Glad Banks is here.

Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.

Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year.  This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.

You can't redshirt someone twice.  If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.


I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.

No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.

Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #86 on: September 16, 2015, 01:31:32 PM »
Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.

It's important.

IMO, we kept ksufans largely powerespect free for a long time by being extremely mean and intimidating to newcomers.  This weeded out posters better suited for GPC.  I give myself credit for running off about half a dozen long standing GPC posters when they drifted over due to JMart's presence or whatever other reason.  Whether he intended to or not, Rusty scared off a TON of people.   So, if you see posters you don't like, please do offend and belittle them.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #87 on: September 16, 2015, 01:43:24 PM »
Not our year.

Glad Banks is here.

Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.

Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year.  This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.

You can't redshirt someone twice.  If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.


I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.

No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.

Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.

You can use a medical redshirt after using a normal redshirt.  Jordan Shipley did this for UT...redshirted, then got hurt and was granted a medical, and then played four years after that. He did not have multiple season ending injuries (just one), and he did not have leukemia.  That said, I do vaguely remember UT petitioning the NCAA (and, of course, winning). The only difference (under my proposal) is that here Delton would be using a medical this year THEN a "normal" redshirt the year before.  Perhaps that makes a difference....I don't know.

Question:  If the normal rule is 5 to play 4, why distinguish between a redshirt and medical?  Are there different rules for how much you can play and still be eligible to claim each one?  So, Delton would not be eligible to claim a normal redshirt based on his participation in two games (two quarters?), but would be able to claim a medical redshirt?  Honest question.....I don't know the answer here.

Also, what is the recovery time for a meniscus?  Could Delton conceivable be back for part of this year?  Would that complicate the medical redshirt issue for this year?

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Re: Delton
« Reply #88 on: September 16, 2015, 01:50:39 PM »
My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?

In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.

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« Reply #89 on: September 16, 2015, 01:52:29 PM »
Not our year.

Glad Banks is here.

Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.

Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year.  This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.

You can't redshirt someone twice.  If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.


I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.

No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.

Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.

You can use a medical redshirt after using a normal redshirt.  Jordan Shipley did this for UT...redshirted, then got hurt and was granted a medical, and then played four years after that. He did not have multiple season ending injuries (just one), and he did not have leukemia.  That said, I do vaguely remember UT petitioning the NCAA (and, of course, winning). The only difference (under my proposal) is that here Delton would be using a medical this year THEN a "normal" redshirt the year before.  Perhaps that makes a difference....I don't know.

Question:  If the normal rule is 5 to play 4, why distinguish between a redshirt and medical?  Are there different rules for how much you can play and still be eligible to claim each one?  So, Delton would not be eligible to claim a normal redshirt based on his participation in two games (two quarters?), but would be able to claim a medical redshirt?  Honest question.....I don't know the answer here.

Also, what is the recovery time for a meniscus?  Could Delton conceivable be back for part of this year?  Would that complicate the medical redshirt issue for this year?

It literally took me 20 seconds total of searching and reading to see that Shipley was injured for multiple seasons and was granted a medical hardship exactly as I described.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3788539

The difference between a medical redshirt and a redshirt is a medical redshirt is one that can be acquired after the season has started because of injury. There is a benchmark for how long into the season you can go and how much time you are allowed to play before you can't get the medical redshirt but I don't know what that is.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #90 on: September 16, 2015, 01:55:52 PM »
Once you play 1 snap in a game, even if its the only snap you play all season, you cannot redshirt.

Unless you get injured.

Then, you can only get a medical redshirt if you played no more than the first 20% of the contest for any season IIRC.

Correction:

In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not
participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is
applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the
institution's scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her
sport.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2015, 01:59:44 PM by royals&ksu_FAN »

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Re: Delton
« Reply #91 on: September 16, 2015, 01:56:13 PM »
20 seconds percent

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Re: Delton
« Reply #92 on: September 16, 2015, 02:00:30 PM »
My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?

In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.

What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not?  Does he lose medical redshirt status?

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Re: Delton
« Reply #93 on: September 16, 2015, 02:01:59 PM »
What a weird way of looking something up.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #94 on: September 16, 2015, 02:02:40 PM »


My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?

In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.

What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not?  Does he lose medical redshirt status?

If he doesn't play another snap this season because of an injury he'll get a med RS.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #95 on: September 16, 2015, 02:03:04 PM »
Not our year.

Glad Banks is here.

Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.

Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year.  This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.

You can't redshirt someone twice.  If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.


I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.

No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.

Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.

You can use a medical redshirt after using a normal redshirt.  Jordan Shipley did this for UT...redshirted, then got hurt and was granted a medical, and then played four years after that. He did not have multiple season ending injuries (just one), and he did not have leukemia.  That said, I do vaguely remember UT petitioning the NCAA (and, of course, winning). The only difference (under my proposal) is that here Delton would be using a medical this year THEN a "normal" redshirt the year before.  Perhaps that makes a difference....I don't know.

Question:  If the normal rule is 5 to play 4, why distinguish between a redshirt and medical?  Are there different rules for how much you can play and still be eligible to claim each one?  So, Delton would not be eligible to claim a normal redshirt based on his participation in two games (two quarters?), but would be able to claim a medical redshirt?  Honest question.....I don't know the answer here.

Also, what is the recovery time for a meniscus?  Could Delton conceivable be back for part of this year?  Would that complicate the medical redshirt issue for this year?

It literally took me 20 seconds total of searching and reading to see that Shipley was injured for multiple seasons and was granted a medical hardship exactly as I described.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3788539

The difference between a medical redshirt and a redshirt is a medical redshirt is one that can be acquired after the season has started because of injury. There is a benchmark for how long into the season you can go and how much time you are allowed to play before you can't get the medical redshirt but I don't know what that is.

On the UT website, it lists his first year simply as a redshirt and the next as a medical redshirt.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #96 on: September 16, 2015, 02:04:15 PM »
My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?

In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.

What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not?  Does he lose medical redshirt status?

No because if they applied for a medical redshirt, they wouldn't say "we want a medical redshirt, he could have played but we didn't want him to." If he got a medical redshirt and it took 8 weeks of his season the remaining time is easily included in the recovery.

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Re: Delton
« Reply #97 on: September 16, 2015, 02:05:11 PM »


My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?

In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.

What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not?  Does he lose medical redshirt status?

If he doesn't play another snap this season because of an injury he'll get a med RS.

That seems to be established.
What if he doesn't play another snap because we have already burned Banks redshirt and Delton is now third sting and not as fast, but could be pressed into action if necessary?

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« Reply #98 on: September 16, 2015, 02:06:13 PM »
My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?

In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.

What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not?  Does he lose medical redshirt status?

No because if they applied for a medical redshirt, they wouldn't say "we want a medical redshirt, he could have played but we didn't want him to." If he got a medical redshirt and it took 8 weeks of his season the remaining time is easily included in the recovery.

So do we have to ask now or is it after-the-fact (offseason)?

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« Reply #99 on: September 16, 2015, 02:07:19 PM »
Oh man, this thread :ROFL: