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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: XocolateThundarr on September 16, 2015, 10:02:17 AM
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:dunno:
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This makes me so sad if true
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very strange. cue the bankscats. if true!
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what's going on here?
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Hearing out for season, medical redshirt, etc.... Super insidery sources getting confirmation now.
:buh-bye:
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I hope he's not injured, but if he is I hope it was some sort of freak thing caused by practicing inside the stadium on overused turf just for dax bbs purposes.
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This sucks
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LOL that for a small window of time we'll be sort of redshirting 3 of 4 QBs.
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Spill it, J. :tappingfootguy:
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LOL that for a small window of time we'll be sort of redshirting 3 of 4 QBs.
It's like we're stockpiling players to make an unprecedented run at the independence bowl next year.
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Does this mean I'll have to deal with Joe all year?
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Does this mean I'll have to deal with Joe all year?
Until he can't walk or is too sketti-brained to know where he's at.. then it's California Love time
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eff this world
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so, Vegas knew. lol. I was going to bet the farm and had to wait a day to do so. No more farm bet for me
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what about that juco kid?
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Not our year.
Glad Banks is here.
Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.
Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year. This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.
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:waitingforMIRtoreviewthatRSanalysis:
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:waitingforMIRtoreviewthatRSanalysis:
:ROFL: thought the exact same thing
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Man, this board is weird AF. first, everybody is #BID about the fact that we burned his redshirt. now, after he gets his redshirt back, people are #BID that he's not available.
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Man, this board is weird AF. first, everybody is #BID about the fact that we burned his redshirt. now, after he gets his redshirt back, people are #BID that he's not available.
factoring ertz?
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Man, this board is weird AF. first, everybody is #BID about the fact that we burned his redshirt. now, after he gets his redshirt back, people are #BID that he's not available.
factoring ertz?
There are many reasons to burn it down, here. For one, we will for sure lose Banks' redshirt year; of all of the QB's, he probably needed it since he just got here this summer. Ertz might be done. I don't know the extent of Delton's injury, but they are not the types of things you want to have happen, even if you do get a medical and the year of eligibility back.
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Not our year.
Glad Banks is here.
Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.
Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year. This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.
You can't redshirt someone twice. If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.
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Delton Freshmen
Ertz Sophomore
Banks Jr
Hubs Sr
Just live the roster god drew it out.
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Man, this board is weird AF. first, everybody is #BID about the fact that we burned his redshirt. now, after he gets his redshirt back, people are #BID that he's not available.
If Ertz were still healthy, this wouldn't be a big deal. I'm kind of melting down internally over here because I don't believe Hubener will be able to start every game this season.
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'zooka is not going to make it the entire season. Banks will get a start
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Guys we will be fine. Ohio State was fine last year with all their QB injuries and look what happened!
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you've really got to question what the hell the coaches are doing to these kids in practice that results in all of these injuries
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Deltorn ACL.
I don't know what hertz on him, but that would work nickname-wise.
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DELmillerwantedmoretouchesforhisboywinsTON.
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DELmillerwantedmoretouchesforhisboywinsTON.
Whoops, wrong OC. Are they both still there?
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Not our year.
Glad Banks is here.
Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.
Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year. This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.
You can't redshirt someone twice. If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.
I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.
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Eh as long as Hubener stays healthy this will have no effect on the season. Besides I've been team Banks since day 1. :emawkid:
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Why do bad things happen to good people?
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This would be the equivalent of Hubener getting hurt last year, or #LIFE getting hurt during Klein's senior year. Kinda sucks for the player, but not really all that important in terms of season wins and losses. Also we all know Snyder under the circumstance of already losing one QB won't let Hubener miss a start unless his legs fall off, so it's not like Delton was going to see meaningful snaps anyway.
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I'm going to need to start hearing more about our 5th, 6th, and 7th string QBs...
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I'll be listening to this on a continuous loop all day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wBTdfAkqGU
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Didn't something like this happen at Maryland a few years ago and they had to play a linebacker at QB the last handful of games?
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This would be the equivalent of Hubener getting hurt last year, or #LIFE getting hurt during Klein's senior year. Kinda sucks for the player, but not really all that important in terms of season wins and losses. Also we all know Snyder under the circumstance of already losing one QB won't let Hubener miss a start unless his legs fall off, so it's not like Delton was going to see meaningful snaps anyway.
I give 'Zooka about a 10% chance of making it through the season without getting sketti'd.
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The multiple dreams I've had of California Love running for touchdowns against Big 12 teams may come true after all.
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Didn't something like this happen at Maryland a few years ago and they had to play a linebacker at QB the last handful of games?
I'm sure that if we get to that point then Meathook will get some snaps
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KYLE KLEIN COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!
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KYLE KLEIN COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!
Dana will just move Winston to QB.....problem solved!
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Besides Cook were any other of our non-QBs QBs in high school? Like, in a pinch could Sean Newlan play QB?
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KYLE KLEIN COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!
Dana will just move Winston to QB.....problem solved!
i was actually being serious. its going to happen
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KYLE KLEIN COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!
Dana will just move Winston to QB.....problem solved!
i was actually being serious. its going to happen
So was I. :sdeek:
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Jameis Winston Dimel.
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Aleg's broken Delton.
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Alex DELayedheismon.
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Pete's gonna need a bigger hot tub.
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:peek: Should have spilled on this last night. Torn meniscus.
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Also that one QB that nobody knows is probably coming off RS
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Should our strength coach be fired like yesterday?
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'zooka is not going to make it the entire season. Banks will get a start
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I believe that to be true. I also believe that if Delton had been the better choice to start with, he would have been on the field more the last two games. I am fine with Joe leading the offense; always have been. And I hope that Banks learns quickly so he will be prepared when his time shows.
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Should our strength coach be fired like yesterday?
which one?
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Too bad this guy has to sit for his transfer.
#17 LANDON ROOT
Height:6'2"
Weight:206 lbs
Year:Freshman (RS)
Position: QB
Prior College: Northern Illinois
BIOGRAPHY
BACKGROUND
2014 (Northern Illinois): Signed with Northern Illinois out of high school in 2014… Redshirted the 2014 season for the MAC Champion Huskies.
HIGH SCHOOL: Prepped at Wichita Collegiate under head coach Mike Gehrer… Rated the eighth-best prospect in the state by Rivals.com in the class of 2014… Completed 264-of-429 passes for 3,416 yards and 37 touchdowns over his final two seasons, while he rushed for 937 yards and scored 17 scores… A 2013 first team all-state honoree by the Wichita Eagle and an honorable mention pick by the Topeka Capital-Journal… Also an honorable mention pick by the Wichita Eagle as a junior… Earned first team all-conference honors as a junior and senior… Teammates of current Wildcats Mitch and Myles Copeland… Also lettered two years in baseball, earning all-state honors, and two years of basketball, earning all-league accolades.
PERSONAL: Landon Scott Root was born February 27, 1996, in Wichita, Kansas… Son of Scott and Anne Root… Has two siblings, Addison and Cooper… Plans on majoring in engineering.
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#3?
ZACH DAVIDSON #18
Height:6'3"
Weight:222 lbs
Year:Freshman (RS)
Position: QB
High School: Harrisonville
BIOGRAPHY
BACKGROUND
A young quarterback who redshirted last season… Will continue to develop in 2015.
2014: Redshirted.
HIGH SCHOOL: A four-year letterwinner and three-year starting quarterback at Harrisonville under head coach Chuck Lliteras... A two-year all-district performer and three-year all-conference honoree... Named to the academic all-state team as a senior, while he picked up first team all-state honors during the 2012 season after leading Harrisonville to a 12-3 record and the state semifinals... Threw for 1,074 yards and six touchdowns and rushed for 1,026 yards and 22 touchdowns as a junior... Was the Missouri Class 4 quarterback rushing and scoring leader in 2012... Came back with 642 passing yards and six scores along with 563 yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground as a senior… Prepped with current K-State defensive lineman Travis Britz.
PERSONAL: Zachary D. Davidson was born November 20, 1995, in Kansas City, Missouri... Son of Gary and Denise Davidson... Has three siblings... Plans on majoring in industrial engineering.
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Or #3?
HUNTER HALL #14
Height:6'2"
Weight:222 lbs
Year:Freshman
Position: QB
High School: Clearwater
BIOGRAPHY
BACKGROUND
AT CLEARWATER HIGH SCHOOL: Played for the Indians under head coach Dirk Ankerholz… Helped Clearwater to a regional runner-up finish as he earned all-conference honors… Also played two years of baseball, four years of basketball and two years of track.
PERSONAL: Hunter Lee Hall was born April 19, 1997, in Clearwater, Kansas… Son of Craig and Gina Hall… Father, Craig, attended K-State… Has one sister, Amanda, who played volleyball and Nicholls State… Plans on majoring in milling sciences.
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Hunter Lee Hall is a wrestling name if I've ever heard one
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He just posted on Twitter a link to Instagram.
https://instagram.com/p/7loZ5yOPkT/ (https://instagram.com/p/7loZ5yOPkT/)
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He just posted on Twitter a link to Instagram.
https://instagram.com/p/7loZ5yOPkT/ (https://instagram.com/p/7loZ5yOPkT/)
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The IG photo is 3 days old...
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Hunter Lee Hall is a wrestling name if I've ever heard one
Or the name of an assassin. If he is our starting QB in November that should be his nickname - The Assassin.
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Hunter Lee Hall is a wrestling name if I've ever heard one
Or the name of an assassin. If he is our starting QB in November that should be his nickname - The Assassin.
three first names=serial killer not assassin
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Sucks that he's hurt but at least he'll know that playbook forwards and backwards for next season.
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Hunter Lee Hall is a wrestling name if I've ever heard one
sec QB
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Hunter Lee Hall is a wrestling name if I've ever heard one
Or the name of an assassin. If he is our starting QB in November that should be his nickname - The Assassin.
three first names=serial killer not assassin
How many people have you met with the first name Hall?
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He just posted on Twitter a link to Instagram.
https://instagram.com/p/7loZ5yOPkT/ (https://instagram.com/p/7loZ5yOPkT/)
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The IG photo is 3 days old...
I know...just thought the timing was odd. He doesn't post much on Twitter.
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great 3rd post TheTruth
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put names on them so I know who's who after waiting in the wings
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also, look how attractive our QBs are :love:
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Joe
Jonathan
Landon
Zach
Hunter
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If that group walked up to my squad in the club we'd immediately hit it off. just look at them!
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put names on them so I know who's who after waiting in the wings
yeah, i've got better odds of picking out dogbite from deathbite than figuring fan's post out
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"or maybe the present (#3)" could fit another eye between his eyes
i wonder if that gap makes it hard for LB's to figure out what WR he's aiming for
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Also, Landon's last name is Root. Everytime I read it I think of Guardians of the Galaxy.
"I am Roooooot."
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Joe's left eye is squinted quite a bit. Maybe that makes the short throws more difficult. :dunno:
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I feel like it could be low-risk, high-reward if CaLove gets thrust into action without "knowing the offense" and does whatever he wants.
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also, look how attractive our QBs are :love:
Only one of them is above a 5.
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:waitingforMIRtoreviewthatRSanalysis:
Very believably because of the source, but it was stupid. I haven't read this thread beyond the post I'm quoting so I'm guessing it's already been shredded.
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:waitingforMIRtoreviewthatRSanalysis:
Very believably because of the source, but it was stupid. I haven't read this thread beyond the post I'm quoting so I'm guessing it's already been shredded.
Not in the manner I prefer.
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KYLE KLEIN COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!
Dana will just move Winston to QB.....problem solved!
Pretty disappointed it took nearly two full pages to see this post, happy that my man XocolateThundarr made it
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Not our year.
Glad Banks is here.
Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.
Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year. This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.
You can't redshirt someone twice. If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.
I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.
No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.
Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.
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Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.
It's important.
IMO, we kept ksufans largely powerespect free for a long time by being extremely mean and intimidating to newcomers. This weeded out posters better suited for GPC. I give myself credit for running off about half a dozen long standing GPC posters when they drifted over due to JMart's presence or whatever other reason. Whether he intended to or not, Rusty scared off a TON of people. So, if you see posters you don't like, please do offend and belittle them.
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Not our year.
Glad Banks is here.
Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.
Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year. This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.
You can't redshirt someone twice. If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.
I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.
No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.
Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.
You can use a medical redshirt after using a normal redshirt. Jordan Shipley did this for UT...redshirted, then got hurt and was granted a medical, and then played four years after that. He did not have multiple season ending injuries (just one), and he did not have leukemia. That said, I do vaguely remember UT petitioning the NCAA (and, of course, winning). The only difference (under my proposal) is that here Delton would be using a medical this year THEN a "normal" redshirt the year before. Perhaps that makes a difference....I don't know.
Question: If the normal rule is 5 to play 4, why distinguish between a redshirt and medical? Are there different rules for how much you can play and still be eligible to claim each one? So, Delton would not be eligible to claim a normal redshirt based on his participation in two games (two quarters?), but would be able to claim a medical redshirt? Honest question.....I don't know the answer here.
Also, what is the recovery time for a meniscus? Could Delton conceivable be back for part of this year? Would that complicate the medical redshirt issue for this year?
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My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?
In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.
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Not our year.
Glad Banks is here.
Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.
Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year. This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.
You can't redshirt someone twice. If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.
I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.
No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.
Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.
You can use a medical redshirt after using a normal redshirt. Jordan Shipley did this for UT...redshirted, then got hurt and was granted a medical, and then played four years after that. He did not have multiple season ending injuries (just one), and he did not have leukemia. That said, I do vaguely remember UT petitioning the NCAA (and, of course, winning). The only difference (under my proposal) is that here Delton would be using a medical this year THEN a "normal" redshirt the year before. Perhaps that makes a difference....I don't know.
Question: If the normal rule is 5 to play 4, why distinguish between a redshirt and medical? Are there different rules for how much you can play and still be eligible to claim each one? So, Delton would not be eligible to claim a normal redshirt based on his participation in two games (two quarters?), but would be able to claim a medical redshirt? Honest question.....I don't know the answer here.
Also, what is the recovery time for a meniscus? Could Delton conceivable be back for part of this year? Would that complicate the medical redshirt issue for this year?
It literally took me 20 seconds total of searching and reading to see that Shipley was injured for multiple seasons and was granted a medical hardship exactly as I described.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3788539
The difference between a medical redshirt and a redshirt is a medical redshirt is one that can be acquired after the season has started because of injury. There is a benchmark for how long into the season you can go and how much time you are allowed to play before you can't get the medical redshirt but I don't know what that is.
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Once you play 1 snap in a game, even if its the only snap you play all season, you cannot redshirt.
Unless you get injured.
Then, you can only get a medical redshirt if you played no more than the first 20% of the contest for any season IIRC.
Correction:
In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not
participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is
applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the
institution's scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her
sport.
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20
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My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?
In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.
What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not? Does he lose medical redshirt status?
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What a weird way of looking something up.
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My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?
In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.
What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not? Does he lose medical redshirt status?
If he doesn't play another snap this season because of an injury he'll get a med RS.
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Not our year.
Glad Banks is here.
Assuming Delton gets a medical redshirt, it means our QB's next year will be as follows: Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, Redshirting.
Hell, IF Ertz is able to return, we could even redshirt Delton again next year. This would put him and Thompson as freshman when Banks is a senior and Ertz is a junior.
You can't redshirt someone twice. If Delton is given a medical redshirt, which in all likelihood he will if these rumors are true, the only way he would be able to get another redshirt is if he were to get hurt again and missed a significant majority of time.
I'm 90% sure they can redshirt in addition to a medical.
No you can not. College athletic eligibility in the NCAA is 5 years to play 4. The 6th year can only be acquired by applying for a medical hardship. You only get medical hardship if you suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia.
Sorry trim and s_w I don't have the energy to be mean today. I wanted to call yard dog a stupid eff in another thread but I just can't do it right now.
You can use a medical redshirt after using a normal redshirt. Jordan Shipley did this for UT...redshirted, then got hurt and was granted a medical, and then played four years after that. He did not have multiple season ending injuries (just one), and he did not have leukemia. That said, I do vaguely remember UT petitioning the NCAA (and, of course, winning). The only difference (under my proposal) is that here Delton would be using a medical this year THEN a "normal" redshirt the year before. Perhaps that makes a difference....I don't know.
Question: If the normal rule is 5 to play 4, why distinguish between a redshirt and medical? Are there different rules for how much you can play and still be eligible to claim each one? So, Delton would not be eligible to claim a normal redshirt based on his participation in two games (two quarters?), but would be able to claim a medical redshirt? Honest question.....I don't know the answer here.
Also, what is the recovery time for a meniscus? Could Delton conceivable be back for part of this year? Would that complicate the medical redshirt issue for this year?
It literally took me 20 seconds total of searching and reading to see that Shipley was injured for multiple seasons and was granted a medical hardship exactly as I described.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3788539
The difference between a medical redshirt and a redshirt is a medical redshirt is one that can be acquired after the season has started because of injury. There is a benchmark for how long into the season you can go and how much time you are allowed to play before you can't get the medical redshirt but I don't know what that is.
On the UT website, it lists his first year simply as a redshirt and the next as a medical redshirt.
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My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?
In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.
What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not? Does he lose medical redshirt status?
No because if they applied for a medical redshirt, they wouldn't say "we want a medical redshirt, he could have played but we didn't want him to." If he got a medical redshirt and it took 8 weeks of his season the remaining time is easily included in the recovery.
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My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?
In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.
What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not? Does he lose medical redshirt status?
If he doesn't play another snap this season because of an injury he'll get a med RS.
That seems to be established.
What if he doesn't play another snap because we have already burned Banks redshirt and Delton is now third sting and not as fast, but could be pressed into action if necessary?
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My guess is he could be back for the last handful of games with a meniscus injury, but what is the point of that?
In the rare cases where a 6th year is granted it's because the medical redshirt was used second. Stop trying to make this rocket science, Steffy.
What if he CAN play our last three games, but we prefer he did not? Does he lose medical redshirt status?
No because if they applied for a medical redshirt, they wouldn't say "we want a medical redshirt, he could have played but we didn't want him to." If he got a medical redshirt and it took 8 weeks of his season the remaining time is easily included in the recovery.
So do we have to ask now or is it after-the-fact (offseason)?
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Oh man, this thread :ROFL:
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Shut up Steffy.
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What a weird way of looking something up.
Yeah I feel like he's going to keep asking questions until I call him a MF so I'm going back to the pit now.
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hey guise, what if Delton magically is cured and plays the rest of the games this season, will he still be able to get a medical redshirt?
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Steffy, you can sometimes get a medical hardship/redshirt after you've had a redshirt, but you cannot choose to take a redshirt after you've used a medical hardship.
And to get the medical hardship you have to provide documentation after the season to the NCAA to get approved, so no you can't be clear to play and just sit out to get it. For Ertz and now Delton, it appears we know these are both serious enough to be season ending injuries and thus the medical hardship rumors.
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follow up, what if he's magically cured but only plays in 6 of our remaining games, still med red shirt?
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:lol:
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:lol:
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This is why you don't play rec basketball during the season.
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why does god hate me
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Hunter Lee Hall is a wrestling name if I've ever heard one
Or the name of an assassin. If he is our starting QB in November that should be his nickname - The Assassin.
three first names=serial killer not assassin
Child actor > serial killer > assassin
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Eh as long as Hubener stays healthy this will have no effect on the season. Besides I've been team Banks since day 1. :emawkid:
California Love :peek:
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Is it too late to grey-shirt him and keep the scholarship money? He's only played like 8 snaps.
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do we have any other shirt options available?
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do we have any other shirt options available?
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Eh as long as Hubener stays healthy this will have no effect on the season. Besides I've been team Banks since day 1. :emawkid:
California Love :peek:
Team Banks :bball:
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Eh as long as Hubener stays healthy this will have no effect on the season. Besides I've been team Banks since day 1. :emawkid:
California Love :peek:
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now i'm hyped
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So Delton has to physically wear a red shirt on the side line for the rest of the season, right?
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So Delton has to physically wear a red shirt on the side line for the rest of the season, right?
A medical one, kind of looks like a scrub top.
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So Delton has to physically wear a red shirt on the side line for the rest of the season, right?
A medical one, kind of looks like a scrub top.
That's funny, but in all seriousness the medical redshirt is ironically white, but the logo on it is so big (for safety) that the shirt basically appears red.
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Image of the actual medical redshirt K-State uses:
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I knew if I just waited patiently that #myguy would get the snaps! #Californialove #nottobemistakenforAgentCodyBanks
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this thread is such a treat, thanks steffy :lol:
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Eh as long as Hubener stays healthy this will have no effect on the season. Besides I've been team Banks since day 1. :emawkid:
California Love :peek:
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This is my favorite post ever
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IMO, we kept ksufans largely powerespect free for a long time by being extremely mean and intimidating to newcomers. This weeded out posters better suited for GPC. I give myself credit for running off about half a dozen long standing GPC posters when they drifted over due to JMart's presence or whatever other reason. Whether he intended to or not, Rusty scared off a TON of people. So, if you see posters you don't like, please do offend and belittle them.
Spoken just like a circle queen.
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If we kneel up 27 with 20 seconds left instead of running a read option, Delton is still playing. :whistle1:
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Eh as long as Hubener stays healthy this will have no effect on the season. Besides I've been team Banks since day 1. :emawkid:
California Love :peek:
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This is my favorite post ever
I want to imagine that is what its going to look like when he plays
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article35649051.html
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IMO, we kept ksufans largely powerespect free for a long time by being extremely mean and intimidating to newcomers. This weeded out posters better suited for GPC. I give myself credit for running off about half a dozen long standing GPC posters when they drifted over due to JMart's presence or whatever other reason. Whether he intended to or not, Rusty scared off a TON of people. So, if you see posters you don't like, please do offend and belittle them.
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It is true, i come from the shadows of lurking for years to finally get the courage to post insider info. And yes, years ago i did read the ramblings of a drunken dentist posting on Gopo. So now i will post my paper clippings and tuck in my shirt as i bask in the glory with you. Berate away! :)
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Who are you supposed to be
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It is true, i come from the shadows of lurking for years to finally get the courage to post insider info. And yes, years ago i did read the ramblings of a drunken dentist posting on Gopo. So now i will post my paper clippings and tuck in my shirt as i bask in the glory with you. Berate away! :)
ok, thanks cyril
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Steffy, you can sometimes get a medical hardship/redshirt after you've had a redshirt, but you cannot choose to take a redshirt after you've used a medical hardship.
And to get the medical hardship you have to provide documentation after the season to the NCAA to get approved, so no you can't be clear to play and just sit out to get it. For Ertz and now Delton, it appears we know these are both serious enough to be season ending injuries and thus the medical hardship rumors.
Thanks, this is somewhat what I thought, but I didn't realize you couldn't do normal redshirt after a medical. (The "whole five years to play four" thing from above is wrong.) If you can get a medical redshirt after using a normal redshirt, Ertz will be able to use a medical this year and come back as a sophomore (meaning he would have 6 years). Rainboy was claiming that you only get a sixth year for medical hardship. I think that might be right if you use your medical redshirt first, and then get hurt again. This was the case with Shipley, it appears. (Although this begs the question....why did UT not just declare Shipley's first redshirt to be a normal redshirt? He didn't play in any games, did he?)
I guess I see the logic behind these rules, but it had never occurred to me that the order in which you take redshirts matters. I still don't understand why anyone would take a medical redshirt first, unless the situation and the amount played meant that a player was only eligible for a medical redshirt and not a regular redshirt.
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So, as I see it, if we are blowing out Tech, and Hubener stays in the whole game, that means that Delton could be back this year and we are trying to save Banks's redshirt. Right??
This is tricky for our coaches......if Delton is able to come back later in the season, he is not eligible for either redshirt, right? So our coaches have to decide whether to burn Bank's redshirt in the face of this uncertainty.
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is it even remotely possible that our medical staff lied about the injury to get him the medred. I assume it's possible?
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So what's the time line on a meniscus injury? I understand that we don't want to mess around with an 18 year old and future stud QB's knees, but isn't the recovery time only about a month?
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is it even remotely possible that our medical staff lied about the injury to get him the medred. I assume it's possible?
Not impossible, but highly unlikely.
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is it even remotely possible that our medical staff lied about the injury to get him the medred. I assume it's possible?
I'm sure this happens (as some schools), but I don't really see the incentive to do so in this situation, unless Banks had progressed so much (and Delton so little) that we now viewed Banks as the better back-up option.
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is it even remotely possible that our medical staff lied about the injury to get him the medred. I assume it's possible?
I'm sure this happens (as some schools), but I don't really see the incentive to do so in this situation, unless Banks had progressed so much (and Delton so little) that we now viewed Banks as the better back-up option.
That would be an unreasonably large gamble given how ADJC runs things.
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So what's the time line on a meniscus injury? I understand that we don't want to mess around with an 18 year old and future stud QB's knees, but isn't the recovery time only about a month?
Depends on the severity of the tear. If its severe enough the knee can become unstable and worse damage can happen.
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So what's the time line on a meniscus injury? I understand that we don't want to mess around with an 18 year old and future stud QB's knees, but isn't the recovery time only about a month?
depends on if they just clean up the tear or try and repair. The clean up would be the 3 to 4 week window (sometimes even faster) but a repair is crutches for 8 to 10 weeks and then rehab.
I would think a true freshman that was hopefully only going to get mop up duty with some special wildcat packages would have it repaired unless the damage is such that just cutting it out and cleaning it up is really the only option. :th_twocents:
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So what's the time line on a meniscus injury? I understand that we don't want to mess around with an 18 year old and future stud QB's knees, but isn't the recovery time only about a month?
depends on if they just clean up the tear or try and repair. The clean up would be the 3 to 4 week window (sometimes even faster) but a repair is crutches for 8 to 10 weeks and then rehab.
I would think a true freshman that was hopefully only going to get mop up duty with some special wildcat packages would have it repaired unless the damage is such that just cutting it out and cleaning it up is really the only option. :th_twocents:
:thumbs:
There is no reason to jeopardize his health, especially this early in his career. Unless he can be back to 100% by the end of October then we shouldn't play him at all this year. I'd rather have him in 2019 than for just a couple more games this year.
Get well soon, Alex :ksu:
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I agree, Banks can be our Wildcat in the Wildcat unless we are goal to go which is obvs Dimelition Man time
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then, i tear up a little (https://heartiste.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/cryingindian.jpg)
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So what's the time line on a meniscus injury? I understand that we don't want to mess around with an 18 year old and future stud QB's knees, but isn't the recovery time only about a month?
depends on if they just clean up the tear or try and repair. The clean up would be the 3 to 4 week window (sometimes even faster) but a repair is crutches for 8 to 10 weeks and then rehab.
I would think a true freshman that was hopefully only going to get mop up duty with some special wildcat packages would have it repaired unless the damage is such that just cutting it out and cleaning it up is really the only option. :th_twocents:
:thumbs:
There is no reason to jeopardize his health, especially this early in his career. Unless he can be back to 100% by the end of October then we shouldn't play him at all this year. I'd rather have him in 2019 than for just a couple more games this year.
Get well soon, Alex :ksu:
I agree with this...surely this is the standard the NCAA would use in determining whether he was eligible for the medical, right? They wouldn't say....."Well he could have played, yes there is risk involved, but isn't life one big risk anyway? Redshirt denied." Would they? I don't know the standard they use but it seems they would have to defer to a doctor's evaluation that there were risks involved in trying to get him to play this year.
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Steffy, if you want to meet me at the Ernie Barrett statue tomorrow at noon I will explain the NCAA medical redshirt rules to you.
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I agree, Banks can be our Wildcat in the Wildcat unless we are goal to go which is obvs Dimelition Man time
Banks in the Wildcat. :drool:
:love::love::love::love::love::love:
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Depends on the section of the meniscus. If it's in the area with blood flow, it's repaired/anchored, and you have to stay off it for 6 to 10 weeks while it heals, then there's a rehab of 8 to 12 weeks. If it's in the area without blood flow, they cut it out and you can run within a week if you're a badass. Normal people might take a month or so.
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Steffy, if you want to meet me at the Ernie Barrett statue tomorrow at noon I will explain the NCAA medical redshirt rules to you.
:cheers: Yikes....will it take two hours!?
Royalsfan has done a pretty good job of getting it all sorted out, I think. Although I still can't figure out why UT didn't just "normal" redshirt Shipley in his first year, and then medical him in his second year, so as to get the result that we think Ertz will get for us (6 years, based on normal redshirt then subsequent medical).
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Although I still can't figure out why UT didn't just "normal" redshirt Shipley in his first year, and then medical him in his second year, so as to get the result that we think Ertz will get for us (6 years, based on normal redshirt then subsequent medical).
You can't apply for a 6th year with a medical hardship until after you've completed your 5th year of eligibility, that's why UT had to wait.
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Although I still can't figure out why UT didn't just "normal" redshirt Shipley in his first year, and then medical him in his second year, so as to get the result that we think Ertz will get for us (6 years, based on normal redshirt then subsequent medical).
You can't apply for a 6th year with a medical hardship until after you've completed your 5th year of eligibility, that's why UT had to wait.
You da man.....thanks much.
So, is that what we are going to have to do with Ertz?
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Although I still can't figure out why UT didn't just "normal" redshirt Shipley in his first year, and then medical him in his second year, so as to get the result that we think Ertz will get for us (6 years, based on normal redshirt then subsequent medical).
You can't apply for a 6th year with a medical hardship until after you've completed your 5th year of eligibility, that's why UT had to wait.
You da man.....thanks much.
So, is that what we are going to have to do with Ertz?
Yes, if he wants to try for a 6th year, K-State will have to wait until after the 5th year to submit the request to the NCAA, though its almost a given he'll get it because of his injury.
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Although I still can't figure out why UT didn't just "normal" redshirt Shipley in his first year, and then medical him in his second year, so as to get the result that we think Ertz will get for us (6 years, based on normal redshirt then subsequent medical).
You can't apply for a 6th year with a medical hardship until after you've completed your 5th year of eligibility, that's why UT had to wait.
You da man.....thanks much.
So, is that what we are going to have to do with Ertz?
Yes, if he wants to try for a 6th year, K-State will have to wait until after the 5th year to submit the request to the NCAA, though its almost a given he'll get it because of his injury.
Even if he doesn't "suffer multiple season ending injuries or a severe illness like leukemia" ?????
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He's had to ACL hernias
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Steffy red shirt questions not Delton.
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At least gE now has a definitive steffy thread. Sucks it had to come at the expense of Delton's knee.
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do we have any other shirt options available?
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Size of shirt...does that matter?
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So Delton has to physically wear a red shirt on the side line for the rest of the season, right?
I heard rumors that it's only a red ribbon. :fatty:
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Hot scoops!(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F09%2F18%2F2a9f673cec9156805fd4b6afdb6b08cd.jpg&hash=a15f483735ced7ec05926e0a0dd5f81a4f2a553e)
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He'll be good to go in two weeks.
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He'll be good to go in two weeks.
:ksu:
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He'll be good to go in two weeks.
:crossfingers:
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He'll be good to go in two weeks.
:ksu:
Could he get medical redshirt for two games? So, like, we could bring him back for the 2019 playoff games only?
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can we get him a med red for this game and a regular for the following game, then switch back?
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can we get him a med red for this game and a regular for the following game, then switch back?
He can have whatever color shirt he wants, but unless they find something different when the swelling is gone, he'll be back after OSU.
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:Woot:
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can we get him a med red for this game and a regular for the following game, then switch back?
He can have whatever color shirt he wants, but unless they find something different when the swelling is gone, he'll be back after OSU.
Hubener has got to hold up in these next two games, so as to preserve Banks' redshirt.
OSU is the one I am worried about, because that is a game where we have to use the entire playbook and win at all costs, including pounding Joe into the line repeatedly (if necessary).
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Blackcats, which of these youngsters will get snaps on Saturday after the Bazooka is done?
Waiting in the wings:
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The future:
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The present (#3):
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Or maybe the present (#3):
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Banks is red shirting guys. Put it away.
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¯\_(?)_/¯
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He'll be good to go in two weeks.
So no Banks in mop up duty this week I'm guessing. That kinda sucks.
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He'll be good to go in two weeks.
So no Banks in mop up duty this week I'm guessing. That kinda sucks.
You can probably take that assumption to your local credit union.
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Once we get up by 3 scores Hubes better be handing the ball off on every play, with the occasional 40 yard bomb.
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Once we get up by 3 scores Hubes better be handing the ball off on every play, with the occasional 40 yard bomb.
Or run silmon/warmack in wildcat formations. Maybe let them throw it once!
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is it even remotely possible that our medical staff lied about the injury to get him the medred. I assume it's possible?
Not impossible, but highly unlikely.
This is nearly as dumb as steffy not understanding 5 years to play 4. While technically possible the player would have to be willing to go along and no player would be willing to go along with that in this situation.
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Once we get up by 3 scores Hubes better be handing the ball off on every play, with the occasional 40 yard bomb.
Except to the meathook. His privaleged ass better not get another touch this year.
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Once we get up by 3 scores Hubes better be handing the ball off on every play, with the occasional 40 yard bomb.
Except to the meathook. His privaleged ass better not get another touch this year.
I hope Meathook scores 30 TDs this year.
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is it even remotely possible that our medical staff lied about the injury to get him the medred. I assume it's possible?
Not impossible, but highly unlikely.
This is nearly as dumb as steffy not understanding 5 years to play 4. While technically possible the player would have to be willing to go along and no player would be willing to go along with that in this situation.
We were having a nice, productive conversation, and then you come along. Considering your leukemia statement, one would think some humility might be warranted.
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Eh as long as Hubener stays healthy this will have no effect on the season. Besides I've been team Banks since day 1. :emawkid:
California Love :peek:
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This is my favorite post ever
FYI, just saw a dude with a shirt that had...
Straight
Outta
K-State
On the front, and...
Banks
9
On the back.
Immediately thought of Winters.
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:combofan: :thumbs:Anyone know Deltons injury? :Wha: or we're the announcers talkin about Ertz
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:combofan: :thumbs:Anyone know Deltons injury? :Wha: or we're the announcers talkin about Ertz
Did you read the thread that you're posting in? Moron.
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lol
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No I did not read the whole thread. Guess that makes me a moron.
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No I did not read the whole thread. Guess that makes me a moron.
The entire thread is about him being injured.
Delete your account and then drink draino
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very good guess imo
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Could have just said read the read the thread and left out the douchery.
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Could have just said read the read the thread and left out the douchery.
No, he couldn't have. Rules is rules.
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Matt Wolters says he could be out until November.
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Matt Wolters says he could be out until November.
take the medical RS and run if that is the case imo
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Agreed. He won't make the difference this year.
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Matt Wolters says he could be out until November.
take the medical RS and run if that is the case imo
If November is the conservative guess on the time he is out it is a very minor meniscus tear.
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ok_cat must have been having a pretty good day
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That they were very cautious with 'zooka seems to tip off that they expect Delton back soon enough and wanted to at almost any cost not eff up anyone else's redshirt and cause another day of steffy madness on gE.
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If the staff doesn't want to burn Banks red shirt they must have plans for him at a different position. I mean he with Delton, Ertz and Thompson he really doesn't fit in to the long term plan. ¯\_(?)_/¯
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Matt Wolters says he could be out until November.
take the medical RS and run if that is the case imo
If November is the conservative guess on the time he is out it is a very minor meniscus tear.
That isn't true at all, you completely made that up. A mild meniscus tear can go for a bit without an operation, not recommended but it's definitely possible. Most meniscus tears come with a scope and a couple of weeks of rest.
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Matt Wolters says he could be out until November.
take the medical RS and run if that is the case imo
If November is the conservative guess on the time he is out it is a very minor meniscus tear.
That isn't true at all, you completely made that up. A mild meniscus tear can go for a bit without an operation, not recommended but it's definitely possible. Most meniscus tears come with a scope and a couple of weeks of rest.
The average is 6 weeks i.e November.
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How did you determine "average" = "very minor"?
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ok_cat must have been having a pretty good day
Why? (I am, though!)
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IF the Conservative guess of length out is average than the injury would be less than average. :dunno: I think it is called logic, not sure.
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ok_cat must have been having a pretty good day
Why? (I am, though!)
the whole draino kill your self exchange with that other cat fan
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ok_cat must have been having a pretty good day
Why? (I am, though!)
the whole draino kill your self exchange with that other cat fan
I thought it was well done
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Matt Wolters says he could be out until November.
take the medical RS and run if that is the case imo
If November is the conservative guess on the time he is out it is a very minor meniscus tear.
That isn't true at all, you completely made that up. A mild meniscus tear can go for a bit without an operation, not recommended but it's definitely possible. Most meniscus tears come with a scope and a couple of weeks of rest.
The average is 6 weeks i.e November.
Depends on which surgery is needed.
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After yesterday I'm ready for Banks' redshirt to come off. Kstate must have qb run game, and Hubes can't do it. Plus, coaches can't continue to call plays like they did yesterday so as to avoid injury and save a redshirt.
I think the coaches want to have one qb and avoid the drama of 2013, but Hubener can't do it. Maybe Banks can. But at the least, we need to use Banks in wildcat and goal line.
This team has a good enough d to win the big 12 this year (especially if we can get Dante back). Pull Banks' shirt and let's play to win now. We have lots of qb options for the next 2-3 years.
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Hubs is subpar at the zone read that is his biggest problem. He also has shown the best ability to throw it out of the flat for a bubble screen to spread the defense out horizontally.
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Matt Wolters says he could be out until November.
take the medical RS and run if that is the case imo
If November is the conservative guess on the time he is out it is a very minor meniscus tear.
That isn't true at all, you completely made that up. A mild meniscus tear can go for a bit without an operation, not recommended but it's definitely possible. Most meniscus tears come with a scope and a couple of weeks of rest.
The average is 6 weeks i.e November.
Depends on which surgery is needed.
Well he's clearly getting the very minor but average surgery.
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Maybe this just shows off my low FBIQ, but if I had to pick 5 things to fix on our offense, I wouldn't even make it to the QB position. Hubes has work to do, but he's not the biggest problem.
That said, if the staff feel they are unable to do the QB run game since we don't have a true backup, then it is very much a problem.
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
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6 weeks most likely means they will be removing part of the meniscus, and not repairing anything. In which case, 6 weeks is a conservative estimate, it could be a few weeks quicker. It all depends on his pain tolerance and ability of his muscles to recover from the punctures for the surgery.
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6 weeks most likely means they will be removing part of the meniscus, and not repairing anything. In which case, 6 weeks is a conservative estimate, it could be a few weeks quicker. It all depends on his pain tolerance and ability of his muscles to recover from the punctures for the surgery.
If we move to quickly, how likely are we to totally ruin his knees RG3 style?
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Not a doctor, so don't know. Been around a lot of these injuries and my sister is in the Kinesiology field. I don't think risk is high of reinjuring the meniscus as the doctor should shave any edges that are susceptible to tears. But there's probably a risk of muscle strains and tears as your body readjusts to it's new norm, and repairs the punctures from surgery. So long term damage not likely, tearing something that could prolong the time he's out is probably a modest risk.
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
How long have you been following Snyder ball. Cause you got to be a rough ridin' idiot to think the coaches will play to the QB's strengths. :bang:
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
How long have you been following Snyder ball. Cause you got to be a rough ridin' idiot to think the coaches will play to the QB's strengths. :bang:
actually something snyder has done traditionally pretty well, dimel not so much
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
How long have you been following Snyder ball. Cause you got to be a rough ridin' idiot to think the coaches will play to the QB's strengths. :bang:
actually something snyder has done traditionally pretty well, dimel not so much
Dimel seems to call a game based on what he wants to happen as opposed to what will probably happen if he calls it that way.
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
How long have you been following Snyder ball. Cause you got to be a rough ridin' idiot to think the coaches will play to the QB's strengths. :bang:
actually something snyder has done traditionally pretty well, dimel not so much
Dimel seems to call a game based on what he wants to happen as opposed to what will probably happen if he calls it that way.
Honestly, "playcalling" usually is an indictment on talent as much as anything. While I'll agree there were many times what we were doing (or trying to d) left a lot to be desired Saturday, the injury situation at QB and the fact that this offense simply doesn't have many game breaking threats also plays into what we saw. We obviously have issues and/or inexperience at nearly every position on the field and those things create a lack of trust in players and what playcallers are willing to call. From talking to some former players, K-State consistently runs packages and plays that never see the field in games. Its no surprise that they go back to things they trust and are comfortable with, especially since Snyder and his staff have always been hyper-sensitive to avoiding turnovers. I think all of those things came into play as to what we saw, especially in the very ugly first half.
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
How long have you been following Snyder ball. Cause you got to be a rough ridin' idiot to think the coaches will play to the QB's strengths. :bang:
actually something snyder has done traditionally pretty well, dimel not so much
Dimel seems to call a game based on what he wants to happen as opposed to what will probably happen if he calls it that way.
Honestly, "playcalling" usually is an indictment on talent as much as anything. While I'll agree there were many times what we were doing (or trying to d) left a lot to be desired Saturday, the injury situation at QB and the fact that this offense simply doesn't have many game breaking threats also plays into what we saw. We obviously have issues and/or inexperience at nearly every position on the field and those things create a lack of trust in players and what playcallers are willing to call. From talking to some former players, K-State consistently runs packages and plays that never see the field in games. Its no surprise that they go back to things they trust and are comfortable with, especially since Snyder and his staff have always been hyper-sensitive to avoiding turnovers. I think all of those things came into play as to what we saw, especially in the very ugly first half.
Jeff Schwinn in the game against Marshall is a prime example. :th_twocents:
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
How long have you been following Snyder ball. Cause you got to be a rough ridin' idiot to think the coaches will play to the QB's strengths. :bang:
actually something snyder has done traditionally pretty well, dimel not so much
Dimel seems to call a game based on what he wants to happen as opposed to what will probably happen if he calls it that way.
Honestly, "playcalling" usually is an indictment on talent as much as anything. While I'll agree there were many times what we were doing (or trying to d) left a lot to be desired Saturday, the injury situation at QB and the fact that this offense simply doesn't have many game breaking threats also plays into what we saw. We obviously have issues and/or inexperience at nearly every position on the field and those things create a lack of trust in players and what playcallers are willing to call. From talking to some former players, K-State consistently runs packages and plays that never see the field in games. Its no surprise that they go back to things they trust and are comfortable with, especially since Snyder and his staff have always been hyper-sensitive to avoiding turnovers. I think all of those things came into play as to what we saw, especially in the very ugly first half.
The biggest frustration to me was going to the wildcat in short yardage situations so frequently. I guess you could say that playcalling is an indictment on talent in that case, too, since we took out our good running back and moved our QB to WR to run that package, but I don't think that is how you meant it.
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Whatever happened to adjusting play calling to the quarterback you have? Or is that just way too difficult this far into the season to put in place?
How long have you been following Snyder ball. Cause you got to be a rough ridin' idiot to think the coaches will play to the QB's strengths. :bang:
actually something snyder has done traditionally pretty well, dimel not so much
Dimel seems to call a game based on what he wants to happen as opposed to what will probably happen if he calls it that way.
Honestly, "playcalling" usually is an indictment on talent as much as anything. While I'll agree there were many times what we were doing (or trying to d) left a lot to be desired Saturday, the injury situation at QB and the fact that this offense simply doesn't have many game breaking threats also plays into what we saw. We obviously have issues and/or inexperience at nearly every position on the field and those things create a lack of trust in players and what playcallers are willing to call. From talking to some former players, K-State consistently runs packages and plays that never see the field in games. Its no surprise that they go back to things they trust and are comfortable with, especially since Snyder and his staff have always been hyper-sensitive to avoiding turnovers. I think all of those things came into play as to what we saw, especially in the very ugly first half.
The biggest frustration to me was going to the wildcat in short yardage situations so frequently. I guess you could say that playcalling is an indictment on talent in that case, too, since we took out our good running back and moved our QB to WR to run that package, but I don't think that is how you meant it.
I'd say the biggest frustration for me is how incompetent our O-Line is. Remember seeing our RT get blown up numerous occasions saturday. :curse:
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The Wildcat becomes less of a threat when we run it every single time. If we ever threatened to pass it in Wildcat formation the defenses would be a little more disciplined. Doesn't help that Jones dances in the backfield before hitting the hole.
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The Wildcat becomes less of a threat when we run it every single time. If we ever threatened to pass it in Wildcat formation the defenses would be a little more disciplined. Doesn't help that Jones dances in the backfield before hitting the hole.
My biggest complaint in Wildcat as that we line up in it and then stop and check with the sideline. If we aren't going to pass, the next best scenario is break the huddle, line up, and snap the ball as quick as possible. We did that after the big punt return and scored in two plays. At least then you have a chance that the defense won't have time to completely commit 9 to the box or you can get them misaligned. However, Charles usually stops, checks with the sideline and then the defense commits everyone to the box and blitzes multiple linebackers. Its just stupid.
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
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The limitations they put on Hubener in the QB run game (he was clearly told to give on most read plays after the first play) tell me they want to keep the redshirt for Banks and they believe Delton will be back sooner than later to be a legit back-up. JMHO.
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
For the thousandth time, he's red shirting. I feel like we need a pinned thread that says:
BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!
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The limitations they put on Hubener in the QB run game (he was clearly told to give on most read plays after the first play) tell me they want to keep the redshirt for Banks and they believe Delton will be back sooner than later to be a legit back-up. JMHO.
When is sooner than later though? 4 weeks from now he'll be back? How many games will that cost us?
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
For the thousandth time, he's red shirting. I feel like we need a pinned thread that says:
BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!
are you serious with this post? have you heard that two quarterbacks ahead of him are injured?
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Hubener is going to go down and Wacky is going to have us start Zach Davidson at QB because BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!!!!
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Hubener is going to go down and Wacky is going to have us start Zach Davidson at QB because BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!!!!
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lol
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
For the thousandth time, he's red shirting. I feel like we need a pinned thread that says:
BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!
you know you can pull a red shirt at any time right? do i need to get steffy in here to explain this to you?
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
For the thousandth time, he's red shirting. I feel like we need a pinned thread that says:
BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!
you know you can pull a red shirt at any time right? do i need to get steffy in here to explain this to you?
:D
Good point though. I think they will only pull it from Banks in an absolute emergency.
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
For the thousandth time, he's red shirting. I feel like we need a pinned thread that says:
BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!
you know you can pull a red shirt at any time right? do i need to get steffy in here to explain this to you?
:D
Good point though. I think they will only pull it from Banks in an absolute emergency.
That being said, shouldn't Banks be getting reps with the first team just in case?
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I would imagine that he is getting some in practice.
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man, first Jay Bilas and now this, rough week for ole fanman
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
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Hubener is going to go down and Wacky is going to have us start Zach Davidson at QB because BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!!!!
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:D
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
name a time when we ran out of qb's?
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
name a time when we ran out of qb's?
Well, when Ell went out, we went to a walk on from McCloud, KS. I'm sure we were redshirting someone at that time.
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Jonathan Beasley
http://cjonline.com/stories/081598/spo_beasley.shtml#.VgLL_stVhBd
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Jonathan Beasley
http://cjonline.com/stories/081598/spo_beasley.shtml#.VgLL_stVhBd
So 20 years ago? Got it.
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Jonathan Beasley
http://cjonline.com/stories/081598/spo_beasley.shtml#.VgLL_stVhBd
So 20 years ago? Got it.
It's not every year that all of the QBs ahead of the redshirt get injured. It's very rare.
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My guess is Delton will be fine soon and they will do everything in their power not to have to pull a red shirt. It's very rare this ever happens under Snyder was my point.
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My guess is Delton will be fine soon and they will do everything in their power not to have to pull a red shirt. It's very rare this ever happens under Snyder was my point.
how does this affect a potential medical redshirt re: Delton? Steffy?
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Jonathan Beasley
http://cjonline.com/stories/081598/spo_beasley.shtml#.VgLL_stVhBd
So 20 years ago? Got it.
didn't we roast sproles' redshirt late in a season?
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
For the thousandth time, he's red shirting. I feel like we need a pinned thread that says:
BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!
It's football not tiddlywinks, people get dinged up where they have to miss a series or even a quarter. Going into any game hoping Hubener stays healthy before Delton can return makes absolutely no sense. That redshirt for Banks is about as secure as it was for Mason Rudolf last year.
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My guess is Delton will be fine soon and they will do everything in their power not to have to pull a red shirt. It's very rare this ever happens under Snyder was my point.
Yeah well what I know about him is that Coach Snyder is not going into a game ill prepared hoping for the best. Unless Delton or Ertz is ready to take the field in Stillwater next week, Banks is most likely getting snaps. That does not affect his redshirt status, it makes him ready if needed.
So are you proposing we run the Wildcat offense with Charles Jones, if Hubener has to go out?
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Taco Wallace
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Jonathan Beasley
http://cjonline.com/stories/081598/spo_beasley.shtml#.VgLL_stVhBd
So 20 years ago? Got it.
didn't we roast sproles' redshirt late in a season?
Taco Wallace played one down against Texas A&M his junior year.
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Taco Wallace
Okay, I missed this.
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okay so just to clear up a few wacky misconceptions:
banks IS in fact available and as it sits is our #2. whether he uses his red shirt or its pulled TBD
We have in fact pulled a persons redshirt during the season, actually well into the season to be accurate.
Snyder controls injuries thus the reason he has rarely pulled a kids red shirt off into the season.
thats all i got for those wondering where we stand right now.
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okay so just to clear up a few wacky misconceptions:
banks IS in fact available and as it sits is our #2. whether he uses his red shirt or its pulled TBD
We have in fact pulled a persons redshirt during the season, actually well into the season to be accurate.
Snyder controls injuries thus the reason he has rarely pulled a kids red shirt off into the season.
thats all i got for those wondering where we stand right now.
:thumbs:
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Taco Wallace fact: his real name is Lawrence
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Fact: Banks will play this year.
So there is no point in being conservative with the playcalling.
Welcome to Big12 play.
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Fan wants Hubener to be successful so bad it hurts.
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did you guys see when I posted that Uncle Rico gif like he's going to play before we pull Banks' red-shirt?.. lol, ha.
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Fan wants Hubener to be successful so bad it hurts.
well if we are going to be stuck with him might as well cheer for him to succeed.
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Banks is redshirting dorks, I doubt he even dresses out for practice.
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Fan wants Hubener to be successful so bad it hurts.
I don't really have a favorite in this year's group of QBs honestly. I'm just going based on what I've seen, in fact I'm fine with Banks burning his redshirt if he's a better player, it just seems like Snyder is trying really hard not to do it.
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Why wouldn't any of us want Hubener to be successful? He is the quarterback that Coach thinks is best. I defer to him. I want Hubener to be very successful, because that means the Cats win lots of games.
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great stuff as always canary
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Why wouldn't any of us want Hubener to be successful? He is the quarterback that Coach thinks is best. I defer to him. I want Hubener to be very successful, because that means the Cats win lots of games.
Back up QBs are usually better than the starter most of the time, at least in the eyes of the fans. Its a long standing football tradition.
:D
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Why wouldn't any of us want Hubener to be successful? He is the quarterback that Coach thinks is best. I defer to him. I want Hubener to be very successful, because that means the Cats win lots of games.
Back up QBs are usually better than the starter most of the time, at least in the eyes of the fans. Its a long standing football tradition.
:D
I try to forget that. I know the person waiting in line for my job is far better prepared and far more able than I am. He should be in this office already.
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then do the right thing and give him your job and take his
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Banks is redshirting dorks, I doubt he even dresses out for practice.
You've really had a hard on for me lately. I love it! #Zapped
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Jonathan Beasley
http://cjonline.com/stories/081598/spo_beasley.shtml#.VgLL_stVhBd
So 20 years ago? Got it.
didn't we roast sproles' redshirt late in a season?
Midway I think.
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i vote we medical greyshirt banks for this game.
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#blessed #blessed pew pew boom #hottakes
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then do the right thing and give him your job and take his
Not a chance. My boss thinks he has the best person in my job already. And I trust him!
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8 out of M^2 last 14 posts refer to me. :love:
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Put banks in a Delton Jersey and take our chances on the ncaa finding out (they won't)
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8 out of M^2 last 14 posts refer to me. :love:
what can I say, you've made a lot of lol posts this week
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8 out of M^2 last 14 posts refer to me. :love:
what can I say, you've made a lot of lol posts this week
That, and you have nothing to add, but lingering and pointing out dumbasses on this board. You make me miss ok cat and kim carnes. At least they were creative and funny.
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I'm very aware you can pull a red shirt, but they won't. Name a time Bill has done it.
Jonathan Beasley
http://cjonline.com/stories/081598/spo_beasley.shtml#.VgLL_stVhBd
So 20 years ago? Got it.
didn't we roast sproles' redshirt late in a season?
Midway I think.
Darren Lee Sproles, the greatest cat o.a.t. played 6 games in 2001; exactly half of that garbage season.
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8 out of M^2 last 14 posts refer to me. :love:
what can I say, you've made a lot of lol posts this week
That, and you have nothing to add, but lingering and pointing out dumbasses on this board. You make me miss ok cat and kim carnes. At least they were creative and funny.
did you just call yourself a dumbass?
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Taco Wallace fact: his real name is Lawrence
:eek:
This is great info.
wELLsculptedbrows fact: his cat is named after Taco Wallace (kind of like all those Kathy K-State's with a black lab named Jordy!)
wELLsculptedbrows fanningbrag: his cat's namesake wished him a happy birthday on Facebook a couple of months ago!!!!
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dumbasscity.com
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Put banks in a Delton Jersey and take our chances on the ncaa finding out (they won't)
One of the benefits about playing on FS1 is no one pays attention to your games.
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8 out of M^2 last 14 posts refer to me. :love:
what can I say, you've made a lot of lol posts this week
That, and you have nothing to add, but lingering and pointing out dumbasses on this board. You make me miss ok cat and kim carnes. At least they were creative and funny.
did you just call yourself a dumbass?
:lol:
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8 out of M^2 last 14 posts refer to me. :love:
what can I say, you've made a lot of lol posts this week
That, and you have nothing to add, but lingering and pointing out dumbasses on this board. You make me miss ok cat and kim carnes. At least they were creative and funny.
did you just call yourself a dumbass?
Has it been discussed that Meow Meow probably is Kim Carnes?
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hadn't thought of that...
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8 out of M^2 last 14 posts refer to me. :love:
what can I say, you've made a lot of lol posts this week
That, and you have nothing to add, but lingering and pointing out dumbasses on this board. You make me miss ok cat and kim carnes. At least they were creative and funny.
did you just call yourself a dumbass?
Has it been discussed that Meow Meow probably is Kim Carnes?
Not as witty.
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Kim carnes is the same person as all the good socks
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and here i thought M^2 was chingon the whole time
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My coworker swore I was a Jay Bilas sock
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common mistake
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My coworker swore I was a Jay Bilas sock
Like I said, not witty.
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understanding on common themes across many threads, along with understanding how things work at least :dunno:
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Did I miss a thread where it was revealed Banks was really really good? Why is his redshirt so sacred?
Play him this year if you have to.
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Did I miss a thread where it was revealed Banks was really really good? Why is his redshirt so sacred?
Play him this year if you have to.
He's black, so yeah, he's gotta be a stud. He might share snaps at a FCS school someday.
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Did I miss a thread where it was revealed Banks was really really good? Why is his redshirt so sacred?
Play him this year if you have to.
I think we devoted the entire message board to it actually
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Did I miss a thread where it was revealed Banks was really really good? Why is his redshirt so sacred?
Play him this year if you have to.
I think we devoted the entire message board to it actually
I'm not on here all day everyday. So I must've missed it.
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Did I miss a thread where it was revealed Banks was really really good? Why is his redshirt so sacred?
Play him this year if you have to.
I think we devoted the entire message board to it actually
I'm not on here all day everyday. So I must've missed it.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Do better.
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Did I miss a thread where it was revealed Banks was really really good? Why is his redshirt so sacred?
Play him this year if you have to.
I think we devoted the entire message board to it actually
I'm not on here all day everyday. So I must've missed it.
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Do better.
Yes. Stop being lazy.
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Did I miss a thread where it was revealed Banks was really really good? Why is his redshirt so sacred?
Play him this year if you have to.
I think we devoted the entire message board to it actually
I'm not on here all day everyday. So I must've missed it.
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Do better.
Yes. Stop being lazy.
I have a rough ridin' job and go on nice ass vacations (see How Many Credit Cards... thread).
Will someone stop this nonsense and show me where we should be worrying about Banks's rough ridin' redshirt so much.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Banks redshirting? That means he can't play for like, the whole season right? :dunno:
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Banks redshirting? That means he can't play for like, the whole season right? :dunno:
Yea he has the redshirt on still, not a big deal though.
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JFC, no one said he couldn't play, because he was a redshirt. I said, It's very unlikely that Snyder ever does this. It's been 20 years since he did it at the QB situation and yes, crush, he's a black QB, he's obviously a stud. He might share snaps at an FCS school someday.
PS- wetwillie, he was being sarcastic.
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Will someone stop this nonsense and show me where we should be worrying about Banks's rough ridin' redshirt so much.
We shouldn't be. I don't think he should've even been a redshirt possibility at all. But out of 4 QBs, the KSU brain trust decided he's the one they'd try to go w/o. Watertz is dead, BJ is doing fine but will probably soon be dead, and Delton probably isn't dead enough for this season to not be his redshirt (ask steffy). So the situation is making some think that we should at least still try to get a redshirt out of the 4th guy, and that maybe BJ and Delton can alternate being dead and only Delton's RS possibility will have been wasted. Seems far-fetched and we should plan on Banks playing shortly, and not worry that we'd be missing out on a dream 2017 season. On the other hand, this season is going to be as mediocre as they come regardless so maybe just keep throwing alive walk-ons out there this year and stockpile Banks and other middling players for a run at 9-3 in the years to come.
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why do they call it a redshirt when it's more like a redstraitjacket? #branding?
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Russia
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why do they call it a redshirt when it's more like a redstraitjacket? #branding?
An unfortunate google image search indicates that red strait jackets are more of a bondage thing.
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seems accurate. poor banks :frown:
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hey idiots, Banks is redshirting so he can never play this year, stop talking about him even though he's black, ugh
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hey idiots, Banks is redshirting so he can never play this year, stop talking about him even though he's black, ugh
you've got it reversed. if he plays, he can't be redshirted. not the other way around.
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why does nebraska call theirs blackshirts and why are they allowed to play?
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why does nebraska call theirs blackshirts and why are they allowed to play?
They play more like pinkshirts if you ask me :ROFL:
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okay so just to clear up a few wacky misconceptions:
banks IS in fact available and as it sits is our #2. whether he uses his red shirt or its pulled TBD
We have in fact pulled a persons redshirt during the season, actually well into the season to be accurate.
Snyder controls injuries thus the reason he has rarely pulled a kids red shirt off into the season.
thats all i got for those wondering where we stand right now.
Thanks Slim, so back to my original question before the nonsense of whether Banks can play came up... Has anyone heard whether JayBee is getting reps and has there been any improvement?
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
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Any updates on whether Jonathan Banks is getting considerable reps at practice? I doubt seriously that Joe Huebner will be able to carry the weight without a break, until Delton returns.
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This.
For the thousandth time, he's red shirting. I feel like we need a pinned thread that says:
BANKS ISN'T AVAILABLE!
:confused: I am reading this as he is not available to play, which means he can't play.
:D
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I should have been more precise, but people were coming on this board asking for Banks updates, even after they announced he was red shirting. People were still asking after we knew Delton wouldn't red shirt and we had 3 quarterbacks at the time. It was just becoming redundant, but obviously it's up for discussion now since Ertz and Delton are made of glass. I still don't think he'll pull it tho.
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I should have been more precise, but people were coming on this board asking for Banks updates, even after they announced he was red shirting. People were still asking after we knew Delton wouldn't red shirt and we had 3 quarterbacks at the time. It was just becoming redundant, but obviously it's up for discussion now since Ertz and Delton are made of glass. I still don't think he'll pull it tho.
Who in their right sense would go into a game without a back up QB? Whether he plays, thus loses his redshirt was not my question. It was and remains is he getting reps as back up, and if so has there been an update on his progress?
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Who in their right sense would go into a game without a back up QB? Whether he plays, thus loses his redshirt was not my question. It was and remains is he getting reps as back up, and if so has there been an update on his progress?
Good questions. My assumption is that Banks is currently #2 and practicing as such, but no one has said that officially.
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Thanks Royals.
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
No coach likes changing their mind on redshirting a player, it means something went wrong.
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
No coach likes changing their mind on redshirting a player, it means something went wrong.
exactly
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
No coach likes changing their mind on redshirting a player, it means something went wrong.
exactly
Our offense is broken, so something is obviously wrong.
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If Bazooka gets Ertz'ed up at OSU...Banks will play.
CASE CLOSED!!!
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If Bazooka gets Ertz'ed up at OSU...Banks will play.
CASE CLOSED!!!
He's redshirting tho
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
No coach likes changing their mind on redshirting a player, it means something went wrong.
exactly
Our offense is broken, so something is obviously wrong.
yes, its called recruiting
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If Bazooka gets Ertz'ed up at OSU...Banks will play.
CASE CLOSED!!!
He's redshirting tho
I wasn't clear on this response. Who is redshirting?
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If Bazooka gets Ertz'ed up at OSU...Banks will play.
CASE CLOSED!!!
He's redshirting tho
I wasn't clear on this response. Who is redshirting?
the qb
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Can a greyshirt play?
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this thread :flush:
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this thread :flush:
Yup. It has passed the point of no return. Thanks, Steffy :shakesfist:
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I think a red shirt is kind of distracting. What color of shirt would you guys give to a player if they weren't going to play for a season?
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I think a red shirt is kind of distracting. What color of shirt would you guys give to a player if they weren't going to play for a season?
Pink ribbon would be nice. :D
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What is the origin of the colors of the shirts that are being worn by various players who may or may not or can or can not play in their chosen college sport?
Gonna win 'em all!
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The first athlete known to extend his eligibility in the modern era of redshirting was Warren Alfson of the University of Nebraska in 1937. Alfson requested that he be allowed to sit out his sophomore season due to the number of experienced players ahead of him. In addition, he had not started college until several years after graduating from high school, and thus felt he needed more preparation. The year off worked; Alfson was All-Big Six Conference in 1939 and an All-American guard in 1940. :blah:
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Man, don't even get me started on blueshirts or greenshirts. :dubious:
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I think a red shirt is kind of distracting. What color of shirt would you guys give to a player if they weren't going to play for a season?
THROW THE BONES
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The first athlete known to extend his eligibility in the modern era of redshirting was Warren Alfson of the University of Nebraska in 1937. Alfson requested that he be allowed to sit out his sophomore season due to the number of experienced players ahead of him. In addition, he had not started college until several years after graduating from high school, and thus felt he needed more preparation. The year off worked; Alfson was All-Big Six Conference in 1939 and an All-American guard in 1940. :blah:
Nebraska=red=CHEATERS!
Gonna win 'em all!
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Banks out 6-8 weeks with mono. Delton out for at least 3 more weeks. Davidson is the backup and don't expect Hubener to run the ball this week.
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Basically were guaranteed to see the wildcat today. And lose.
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Banks out 6-8 weeks with mono. Delton out for at least 3 more weeks. Davidson is the backup and don't expect Hubener to run the ball this week.
This guy bangs! :popcorn:
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WTF is going on?!? :runaway:
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Jesus. We are mumped with Joe as our season long qb
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I hope we get to hear another gpc rant about how it's not mono.
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Hell, the game is less than a minute old. Why are any of you watching if we are already mumped because of Joe?
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Joe is done.
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Welp
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Welp
This.
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That was intentional. Osu is dirty as eff and has done this crap before.
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So you all get what you all wanted.
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There goes the season.
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Sigh.
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So you all get what you all wanted.
No. I want to not have all of our QBs hurt so Joe wasn't our qb by default.
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That was intentional. Osu is dirty as eff and has done this crap before.
Yes. Dirty.
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Cook at QB????
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How long until Jones is the QB?
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Define default. He won the job over the two everyone has had wood for all season. So he got to start because Ertz was hurt. Maybe that is by default. The others not so much
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Define default. He won the job over the two everyone has had wood for all season. So he got to start because Ertz was hurt. Maybe that is by default. The others not so much
Not having anyone else behind him to compete for the job. I don't feel a depth chart is solid for a whole season.
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Heh
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What is going on? Is this the twilight zone?
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We are fine. Anyone can run this offense.
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Apparently. Cook looks fine so far.
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So Snyder, your only real QB was just knocked out running the football?
So what, we are going to run the only guy we have left as much as possible.
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:love:
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So Snyder, your only real QB was just knocked out running the football?
So what, we are going to run the only guy we have left as much as possible.
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:love:
:D
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So Snyder, your only real QB was just knocked out running the football?
So what, we are going to run the only guy we have left as much as possible.
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:love:
At this point, why not? We still have a few more WRs and Jones.
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So Snyder, your only real QB was just knocked out running the football?
So what, we are going to run the only guy we have left as much as possible.
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:love:
:D
next up: Cody Whitehair :Woot:
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Hell, the game is less than a minute old. Why are any of you watching if we are already mumped because of Joe?
Just getting caught up on my blogging and the timing of this post deserves special attention for being incredible.
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
:lol: :emawkid: :horrorsurprise:
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
:lol: :emawkid: :horrorsurprise:
doesn't really count if they are all hurt
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
:lol: :emawkid: :horrorsurprise:
He has mono dumbfuck
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
:lol: :emawkid: :horrorsurprise:
Lol
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I never said he couldn't play ftr. So keep beating a dead horse, I just don't think he will, because Snyder hates blowing red shirts, but yes, carry on. Good grief.
:lol: :emawkid: :horrorsurprise:
He has mono dumbfuck
does he tho?!
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that went well :lol:
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People actually believe this imaginary QB that we've never seen play, had mono? Adorable! :love:
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:love:
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I'm sure Fitz is with you, wacky.
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I'm sure Fitz is with you, wacky.
fitz and wacks are sitting on some info clearly...
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I'm sure Fitz is with you, wacky.
I bet you still believe in the tooth fairy too. :love:
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The lengths this coaching staff will go to to keep the redshirt on Cali Love, wow!
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Kody Cook was the best thing we've seen all year and ppl are still obsessed with mono boy. :love:
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Wtf are you even typing about?
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#blessed
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Good one dumbass
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Kody Cook was the best thing we've seen all year and ppl are still obsessed with mono boy. :love:
If Kody Cook had the ability to start at quarterback on Saturday and play like he did before he got hurt no one would give two shits about any other QB on the roster. Your hate for black quarterbacks makes you seem like a dumbshit who is blind of logic. That probably has nothing to do with football at all.
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Kody Cook was the best thing we've seen all year and ppl are still obsessed with mono boy. :love:
If Kody Cook had the ability to start at quarterback on Saturday and play like he did before he got hurt no one would give two shits about any other QB on the roster. Your hate for black quarterbacks makes you seem like a dumbshit who is blind of logic. That probably has nothing to do with football at all.
I don't hate black qb's, dummy. I hate unicorns, big foot, etc. things ppl love, that have never seen. Now go back to your racist rant, that doesn't exist.
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Kody Cook was the best thing we've seen all year and ppl are still obsessed with mono boy. :love:
If Kody Cook had the ability to start at quarterback on Saturday and play like he did before he got hurt no one would give two shits about any other QB on the roster. Your hate for black quarterbacks makes you seem like a dumbshit who is blind of logic. That probably has nothing to do with football at all.
I don't hate black qb's, dummy. I hate unicorns, big foot, etc. things ppl love, that have never seen. Now go back to racist rant, that doesn't exist.
Do you hate Jesus?
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Do you wanna pit this, Chings?
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Lol
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Good one dumbass
Owning your dome is probably the greatest thing I've ever done on this board. It's so awesome! :love:
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Like, your trash ass is obsessed with me, and I rough ridin' own your brain. It's so rough ridin', awesome! Like, you don't know me at all, but when I type stupid crap, you feel the need to react to it. :love: :love: :love:
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:lol:
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:lol:
I mean, your dumbass is still responding! You're the definition of #zapped. :love:
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M^2: "It's Sunday! I can't wait to see some stupid crap Wacky posted today on a blog! I can't rough ridin' wait!" :lol:
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:lol:
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You can hate me, but that's awesome posting right there. :cheers: :lol:
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:lol:
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Kody Cook was the best thing we've seen all year and ppl are still obsessed with mono boy. :love:
If Kody Cook had the ability to start at quarterback on Saturday and play like he did before he got hurt no one would give two shits about any other QB on the roster.
Yes. Grant Gregory better be on the phone with Kody right calling him a pussy.
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this last page was great :thumbs:
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Hell, the game is less than a minute old. Why are any of you watching if we are already mumped because of Joe?
Just getting caught up on my blogging and the timing of this post deserves special attention for being incredible.
I quit reading shortly after this. And already today I heard about all of Hube's mistakes yesterday. I'm not even a fan of his, but some of the chatter is ridiculous in my opinion. I'll support him as long as Snyder has him on the field.
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Does wacky hate Jesus because he's imaginary and nobody has seen him or because he is black? Trying to keep up in my notes
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Does wacky hate Jesus because he's imaginary and nobody has seen him or because he is black? Trying to keep up in my notes
If I lived in Oklahoma, I would need to believe in Jesus, because what else do you have in life?! Depression, red dirt, and #science. That's about it! :lol:
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:buh-bye:
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Jesus is black? :cry:
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Has anyone talked more crap (unwarranted, dummy, who lives in the worst state on earth) than ok cat on this board? He's a big dumb animal and it's super adorable. Like, he feels the need to type crap and already loses beforehand, with the state he's associated with. :lol:
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I have a rough ridin' job and go on nice ass vacations (see How Many Credit Cards... thread).
Not all the way through this thread but lol
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Not all the way through this thread but lol
buckle up
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Mich, don't miss page 16. I just won the internet.
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Mich, don't miss page 16. I just won the internet.
ugh now I have to read that page all over again bc I didn't notice that the first time
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Mich, don't miss page 16. I just won the internet.
ugh now I have to read that page all over again bc I didn't notice that the first time
:lol:
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Move over Renocat. Wacky is officially the worst poster on this blog. He's like Beems. Only he won't go away.
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Mich, don't miss page 16. I just won the internet.
You really have to go to 15 to gain the proper amount of momentum to truly appreciate page 16.
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Mich, don't miss page 16. I just won the internet.
You really have to go to 15 to gain the proper amount of momentum to truly appreciate page 16.
yes, he doesn't win the internet without page 15 imho
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has a been an enormous spike in people saying that something "wins the internet" a big enough spike to declare it totally dead.
i saw on fb a picture of a mom holding her baby on a couch in an extremely normal way and the first comment was from another mom that said that picture won the internet.
how many times a day is the internet contested? where are all the losers of the internet?
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where are all the losers of the internet?
I think you know the answer to that one already.
kono
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where are all the losers of the internet?
Writing Mommy Blogs?
Gonna win 'em all!
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where are all the losers of the internet?
I think you know the answer to that one already.
kono
rough ridin' lol
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Dudes, change your settings to view 50 posts per page. Much nicer!
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:excited:
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/651450123763867648
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:excited:
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/651450123763867648
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsycographix.co.uk%2Fshop%2Fimages%2F2-IN-THE-POO.jpg&hash=2c8c3f0f0da4f95e49646436cddd159f5238c452)
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It took 20 QB fatalities, but we're finally here! :love:
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Now which shirts are these again?
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Well we know it can't be Banks, because he already decided he's red shirting.
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Well we know it can't be Banks, because he already decided he's red shirting.
Are you talking about mono boy, who was no where to be found on Saturday?
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Well we know it can't be Banks, because he already decided he's red shirting.
Are you talking about mono boy, who was no where to be found on Saturday?
No, this is the LB.
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:excited:
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/651450123763867648
Interesting.
"Considering" is far different from actually doing it. That said, here are the most likely candidates to me:
1. Duke Shelley, based on how our secondary has struggled. However, I have not heard anything about him tearing it up on scout squad....this is just based on his high ranking coming in.
2. Jonathon Banks, based on the cluster at QB and positive comments from Snyder. But what about his mono?
3. Bryce English. He appears physically ready, and I've heard he has been tearing up stuff. Geary and Britz are playing almost every down (they sometimes come out on obvious pass rush), and they appeared tired at end of both La Tech and OSU. I've always thought Hood could be in the rotation, but maybe he just isn't good enough.
I can't see us pulling redshirt for returner, offensive line, linebacker, defensive end, running back, or wide receiver (for varying different reasons.....only LB has been good enough with quality depth and rotation).
I have mixed feelings...I hate sacrificing the future for the present, but sometimes it makes sense.
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This season should've been on the Independence Bowl plan from jump (kick?).
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I can get on board with Cook to Zuber. Also steffy stop posting.
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I am ok with pulling a redshirt after 4 games. Probably won't feel the same way after 5 games. Either play them now or not at all.
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duke shelley is #myguy :cool:
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I am ok with pulling a redshirt after 4 games. Probably won't feel the same way after 5 games. Either play them now or not at all.
Agreed. Either you pull them to hopefully upset TCU and get the season back on track or just call it a wash and unleash them all next season.
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I can get on board with Cook to Zuber. Also steffy stop posting.
Do you really want to pull the redshirt off a WR with our QB situation right now? Doesn't make sense. Not saying our WR's group couldn't use the help, but I would rather save our young WRs for a situation in which we have a more stable situation at QB. We are potentially one play away (Hubes getting hurt) from playing Zach Davidson at QB. At that point, it might not matter if we have Jerry Rice at WR.
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I would like to know what JUCO receivers we're targeting right now. That's a major need.
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I would like to know what JUCO receivers we're targeting right now. That's a major need.
Yes.
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I can get on board with Cook to Zuber. Also steffy stop posting.
Do you really want to pull the redshirt off a WR with our QB situation right now? Doesn't make sense. Not saying our WR's group couldn't use the help, but I would rather save our young WRs for a situation in which we have a more stable situation at QB. We are potentially one play away (Hubes getting hurt) from playing Zach Davidson at QB. At that point, it might not matter if we have Jerry Rice at WR.
Yeah, I am sure having Jerry Rice would not matter at all. Steffy, go away.
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I can get on board with Cook to Zuber. Also steffy stop posting.
Do you really want to pull the redshirt off a WR with our QB situation right now? Doesn't make sense. Not saying our WR's group couldn't use the help, but I would rather save our young WRs for a situation in which we have a more stable situation at QB. We are potentially one play away (Hubes getting hurt) from playing Zach Davidson at QB. At that point, it might not matter if we have Jerry Rice at WR.
um yes, we're only 4 games into the season, we can always recruit more players/WR's. if Cook/Heath can't go our receivers are Klein/Burton/Weber?
oh wait, can we even take Zuber's redshirt off, or did he declare before the year to leave it on.
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Also if you are going to pull redshirts, then I hope the coaches plan on playing said players significant minutes. So I would hope they are either good enough to get those minutes, or just suck it up this year and save them for next year.
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I can get on board with Cook to Zuber. Also steffy stop posting.
Do you really want to pull the redshirt off a WR with our QB situation right now? Doesn't make sense. Not saying our WR's group couldn't use the help, but I would rather save our young WRs for a situation in which we have a more stable situation at QB. We are potentially one play away (Hubes getting hurt) from playing Zach Davidson at QB. At that point, it might not matter if we have Jerry Rice at WR.
um yes, we're only 4 games into the season, we can always recruit more players/WR's. if Cook/Heath can't go our receivers are Klein/Burton/Weber?
oh wait, can we even take Zuber's redshirt off, or did he declare before the year to leave it on.
We can always recruit more players to WR, but we are better off if they all redshirt. I see your point, though....we might not never (hopefully) have as much need as now. I just don't think it would make that much of a difference this year to the bottom line.
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:excited:
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/651450123763867648
Interesting. Now, does Snyder have to physically pull the redshirts off himself, or can the players take them off on their own?
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I can get on board with Cook to Zuber. Also steffy stop posting.
Do you really want to pull the redshirt off a WR with our QB situation right now? Doesn't make sense. Not saying our WR's group couldn't use the help, but I would rather save our young WRs for a situation in which we have a more stable situation at QB. We are potentially one play away (Hubes getting hurt) from playing Zach Davidson at QB. At that point, it might not matter if we have Jerry Rice at WR.
Yeah, I am sure having Jerry Rice would not matter at all. Steffy, go away.
Well, I mean he's gotta be pretty old by now, right?
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Anyone ever told someone really old "don't buy any green bananas"
That's my feelings about this
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I would like to know what JUCO receivers we're targeting right now. That's a major need.
This guy : http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/211905/michael-gallup
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I can get on board with Cook to Zuber. Also steffy stop posting.
Do you really want to pull the redshirt off a WR with our QB situation right now? Doesn't make sense. Not saying our WR's group couldn't use the help, but I would rather save our young WRs for a situation in which we have a more stable situation at QB. We are potentially one play away (Hubes getting hurt) from playing Zach Davidson at QB. At that point, it might not matter if we have Jerry Rice at WR.
With Sutton and Render (think he is going to be really good), why not say eff it and pull it. The depth beneath Zuber has a great chance to be better than the depth above him.
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Anyone ever told someone really old "don't buy any green bananas"
That's my feelings about this
Yep.
He's running at 50% on the "are you older than Pete's grandpa's when they died" scale.
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Wanting to save every last redshirt is so small time, which makes sense steffy is promoting it.
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I am ok with pulling a redshirt after 4 games. Probably won't feel the same way after 5 games. Either play them now or not at all.
Agreed. Either you pull them to hopefully upset TCU and get the season back on track or just call it a wash and unleash them all next season.
I'd agree, and I would save, we're still probably good for 6-7 wins, and if we wait we could win 9+ for like 3 years. Would take.
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I would like to know what JUCO receivers we're targeting right now. That's a major need.
This guy : http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/211905/michael-gallup
Would take, but I want a bigger receiver who can run. :frown:
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California Love just retweeted this:
https://twitter.com/Yeeeby/status/651488513918128128
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California Love just retweeted this:
https://twitter.com/Yeeeby/status/651488513918128128
Hmmmm.....
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:excited:
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/651450123763867648
Interesting.
"Considering" is far different from actually doing it. That said, here are the most likely candidates to me:
1. Duke Shelley, based on how our secondary has struggled. However, I have not heard anything about him tearing it up on scout squad....this is just based on his high ranking coming in.
2. Jonathon Banks, based on the cluster at QB and positive comments from Snyder. But what about his mono?
3. Bryce English. He appears physically ready, and I've heard he has been tearing up stuff. Geary and Britz are playing almost every down (they sometimes come out on obvious pass rush), and they appeared tired at end of both La Tech and OSU. I've always thought Hood could be in the rotation, but maybe he just isn't good enough.
I can't see us pulling redshirt for returner, offensive line, linebacker, defensive end, running back, or wide receiver (for varying different reasons.....only LB has been good enough with quality depth and rotation).
I have mixed feelings...I hate sacrificing the future for the present, but sometimes it makes sense.
pretty sure Honey bear already played in the first game.
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I would like to know what JUCO receivers we're targeting right now. That's a major need.
This guy : http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/211905/michael-gallup
Would take, but I want a bigger receiver who can run. :frown:
You need to pick a new college football team
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I would like to know what JUCO receivers we're targeting right now. That's a major need.
This guy : http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/211905/michael-gallup
Would take, but I want a bigger receiver who can run. :frown:
You need to pick a new college football team
Give me a James Terry or a Chris Harper once in a blue moon, and i'm a happy man.
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Chris Harper (loved and still love him) could not "run"
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:excited:
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/651450123763867648
Interesting.
"Considering" is far different from actually doing it. That said, here are the most likely candidates to me:
1. Duke Shelley, based on how our secondary has struggled. However, I have not heard anything about him tearing it up on scout squad....this is just based on his high ranking coming in.
2. Jonathon Banks, based on the cluster at QB and positive comments from Snyder. But what about his mono?
3. Bryce English. He appears physically ready, and I've heard he has been tearing up stuff. Geary and Britz are playing almost every down (they sometimes come out on obvious pass rush), and they appeared tired at end of both La Tech and OSU. I've always thought Hood could be in the rotation, but maybe he just isn't good enough.
I can't see us pulling redshirt for returner, offensive line, linebacker, defensive end, running back, or wide receiver (for varying different reasons.....only LB has been good enough with quality depth and rotation).
I have mixed feelings...I hate sacrificing the future for the present, but sometimes it makes sense.
pretty sure Honey bear already played in the first game.
According to the game participation lists he has not played yet.
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Chris Harper (loved and still love him) could not "run"
True. I guess I just want someone over 6 feet tall, a possession guy, and if he can run too, then that's the cherry on top.
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Chris Harper (loved and still love him) could not "run"
True. I guess I just want someone over 6 feet tall, a possession guy, and if he can run too, then that's the cherry on top.
We were after an exact match of what you were looking for.. Kid was at Iowa Western CC.. Committed elsewhere though
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:frown:
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/143594/taj-williams. This kid going to TCU
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OMG! He's a ball of sex.
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/143594/taj-williams. This kid going to TCU
or Indiana
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Rivals has Michael Gallup as 6'2" and 210 pounds. :dunno:
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Michael-Gallup-178959
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I don't think good receivers like our offense.
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Remember when this thread used to be about Delton? What ever happened to that guy anyway?
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Remember when this thread used to be about Delton? What ever happened to that guy anyway?
He got injured after 2 plays in mop up duty vs. UTSA. :frown: Our QB's are made of glass!
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I got into an argument with a few boys about if Delton was injured or not. Keep in mind we are both from Western Kansas so he's kinda my guy. I ended up taking their beer and leaving because I couldn't deal with their idiocy, :cheers:
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Good job bbek
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HBD!
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He's gonna start against Baylor, right? Please someone confirm.
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more likely to transfer probably
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He's gonna start against Baylor, right? Please someone confirm.
This season is done. Let him heal completely and hand the keys to him next year. I don't want Oakman to kill him.
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GMAFB with this thread. We're obviously looking straight down a double barrel loaded with two years of Ertz.
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:frown:
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GMAFB with this thread. We're obviously looking straight down a double barrel loaded with two years of Ertz.
Lol Ertz will probably never play again. He certainly will never be able to run our offense.
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GMAFB with this thread. We're obviously looking straight down a double barrel loaded with two years of Ertz.
Lol Ertz will probably never play again. He certainly will never be able to run our offense.
Hope you are right or Snyder will play his no talent ass to reward his loyalty and book smarts.
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GMAFB with this thread. We're obviously looking straight down a double barrel loaded with two years of Ertz.
Lol Ertz will probably never play again. He certainly will never be able to run our offense.
Hope you are right or Snyder will play his no talent ass to reward his loyalty and book smarts.
if ertz got a med redshirt would we not be staring down the triple barrel of 3 years of ertz?
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GMAFB with this thread. We're obviously looking straight down a double barrel loaded with two years of Ertz.
Lol Ertz will probably never play again. He certainly will never be able to run our offense.
Hope you are right or Snyder will play his no talent ass to reward his loyalty and book smarts.
if ertz got a med redshirt would we not be staring down the triple barrel of 3 years of ertz?
someone get steffy in here
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This thread is depressing :flush:
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is this a side by side or over under kind of double barrel we are talking about here? the distinction is kind of important.
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For all we know, Ertz is a young, feisty Peyton Manning. Maybe he's not, but maybe he is. :wha:
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:love:
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:ROFL:
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:ROFL:
Resuming practice today! Finally some good news. There is no way our offense will be less effective than we have in the past 10 quarters if we start Delton and just run the damn ball.
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:ROFL:
Resuming practice today! Finally some good news. There is no way our offense will be less effective than we have in the past 10 quarters if we start Delton and just run the damn ball.
Any insider tips on Danzel?
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:ROFL:
Resuming practice today! Finally some good news. There is no way our offense will be less effective than we have in the past 10 quarters if we start Delton and just run the damn ball.
Any insider tips on Danzel?
My info pulled from Kellis blog, which was from Snyder's presser. Apparently Danzel out for the year, and Dante unlikely for Baylor with coach mentioning a possible medical redshirt. Really wish Barnett would get back.
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:ROFL:
Resuming practice today! Finally some good news. There is no way our offense will be less effective than we have in the past 10 quarters if we start Delton and just run the damn ball.
Does publicly stating that Delton is back to practice change his medical redshirt eligibility?
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:ROFL:
Resuming practice today! Finally some good news. There is no way our offense will be less effective than we have in the past 10 quarters if we start Delton and just run the damn ball.
Does publicly stating that Delton is back to practice change his medical redshirt eligibility?
Yes, I think it probably does, which was the issue I was talking about after the UTSA. You don't declare a medical redshirt.....you have to be eligible, which means you cannot play. Once we played Delton enough to lose his regular redshirt season, our ability to claim a medical depended on him not being able to come back....not our desire as to whether he should come back this year. So, redshirt is out for this season.
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Somebody please tell me Delton will be back for Baylor. I don't even care if it's true..I just need to hear it.
He'll be back.
And throw 3 TDs to Tyler Lockett.
:ROFL:
Resuming practice today! Finally some good news. There is no way our offense will be less effective than we have in the past 10 quarters if we start Delton and just run the damn ball.
Does publicly stating that Delton is back to practice change his medical redshirt eligibility?
Yes, I think it probably does, which was the issue I was talking about after the UTSA. You don't declare a medical redshirt.....you have to be eligible, which means you cannot play. Once we played Delton enough to lose his regular redshirt season, our ability to claim a medical depended on him not being able to come back....not our desire as to whether he should come back this year. So, redshirt is out for this season.
yep you're right. I saw him on the sidelines the past few games and he was wearing purple - not red
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If Delton plays and looks anywhere decent in the Baylor game I will be happy, even if they win by 50.
With Skylar coming in next year, Delton is probably better off getting the reps this season and handing over the reigns after year 4.
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I could listen to steffy talk redshirts all day
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I could listen to steffy talk redshirts all day
Perhaps there is a market here that I am missing by dishing this out for free.
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If Delton plays and looks anywhere decent in the Baylor game I will be happy, even if they win by 50.
With Skylar coming in next year, Delton is probably better off getting the reps this season and handing over the reigns after year 4.
Deltons RSSr - Skylar RSjr < Deltons FR - Hubers RSJR
If this equations is likely to be true Delton should start vs Baylor and the rest of the season. I also think having Skylar setup for starting 2 years makes sense.
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If Delton plays and looks anywhere decent in the Baylor game I will be happy, even if they win by 50.
With Skylar coming in next year, Delton is probably better off getting the reps this season and handing over the reigns after year 4.
Deltons RSSr - Skylar RSjr < Deltons FR - Hubers RSJR
If this equations is likely to be true Delton should start vs Baylor and the rest of the season. I also think having Skylar setup for starting 2 years makes sense.
I think Delton should start, too. But you do understand this has nothing to do with his ability to take a medical redshirt, right?
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Returning to practice and actually playing are two very different things. All scenarios are still on the table.
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If Delton plays and looks anywhere decent in the Baylor game I will be happy, even if they win by 50.
With Skylar coming in next year, Delton is probably better off getting the reps this season and handing over the reigns after year 4.
Deltons RSSr - Skylar RSjr < Deltons FR - Hubers RSJR
If this equations is likely to be true Delton should start vs Baylor and the rest of the season. I also think having Skylar setup for starting 2 years makes sense.
I think Delton should start, too. But you do understand this has nothing to do with his ability to take a medical redshirt, right?
If our athletic department could not get a medical redshirt for Delton considering the circumstances they should all be fired immediately. I mean they are dealing with the NCAA and a doctors opinion.
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Returning to practice and actually playing are two very different things. All scenarios are still on the table.
Not for a medical redshirt.
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Returning to practice and actually playing are two very different things. All scenarios are still on the table.
Not for a medical redshirt.
False. Returning to practice can simply be comprised of testing the injury to see if he can play on it. Returning to practice has nothing to do with being healthy to play.
List Mixed-Nutz with steffy in the gross misunderstanding of what a redshirt is, club.
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Returning to practice and actually playing are two very different things. All scenarios are still on the table.
Not for a medical redshirt.
False. Returning to practice can simply be comprised of testing the injury to see if he can play on it. Returning to practice has nothing to do with being healthy to play.
List Mixed-Nutz with steffy in the gross misunderstanding of what a redshirt is, club.
I was assuming it was a sarcasm post, but who knows.
With a meniscus tear he could conceivably practice the rest of the season doing passing drills and light running and never be cleared for contact.
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Returning to practice and actually playing are two very different things. All scenarios are still on the table.
Not for a medical redshirt.
False. Returning to practice can simply be comprised of testing the injury to see if he can play on it. Returning to practice has nothing to do with being healthy to play.
List Mixed-Nutz with steffy in the gross misunderstanding of what a redshirt is, club.
I was assuming it was a sarcasm post, but who knows. :frown:
With a meniscus tear he could conceivably practice the rest of the season doing passing drills and light running and never be cleared for contact.
Well this thread turned into hell in a hand basket. :flush:
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I do not want Delton out there after an injury trying to make something happen before being completely healed and really hurt something.
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Is Delton ready yet or what? :impatient:
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There is no guarantee he gets the medical redshirt, he did play in two games. Based on the way this program is run could easily see Hub as QB next season and Delton sitting.
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You're also a huge idiot
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You're also a huge idiot
Co signed
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There is no guarantee he gets the medical redshirt, he did play in two games. Based on the way this program is run could easily see Hub as QB next season and Delton sitting.
When they apply for the hardship he'll get it, he's way below the maximum threshold of time you're allowed to play. They may not even apply this year, they don't have to.
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There is no guarantee he gets the medical redshirt, he did play in two games. Based on the way this program is run could easily see Hub as QB next season and Delton sitting.
When they apply for the hardship he'll get it, he's way below the maximum threshold of time you're allowed to play. They may not even apply this year, they don't have to.
Interesting point, and they probably won't now that you mention it. It's conceivable that Delton may take a redshirt year before his senior year, in which case a medical redshirt would be moot.
(Need backup from someone who actually knows anything about redshirts)
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There is no guarantee he gets the medical redshirt, he did play in two games. Based on the way this program is run could easily see Hub as QB next season and Delton sitting.
When they apply for the hardship he'll get it, he's way below the maximum threshold of time you're allowed to play. They may not even apply this year, they don't have to.
Interesting point, and they probably won't now that you mention it. It's conceivable that Delton may take a redshirt year before his senior year, in which case a medical redshirt would be moot.
(Need backup from someone who actually knows anything about redshirts)
There's a lot wrong with your post so I'll just say, no
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IIRC you can't apply for a medical redshirt until all regular eligibility is exhausted.
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There is no guarantee he gets the medical redshirt, he did play in two games. Based on the way this program is run could easily see Hub as QB next season and Delton sitting.
When they apply for the hardship he'll get it, he's way below the maximum threshold of time you're allowed to play. They may not even apply this year, they don't have to.
Interesting point, and they probably won't now that you mention it. It's conceivable that Delton may take a redshirt year before his senior year, in which case a medical redshirt would be moot.
(Need backup from someone who actually knows anything about redshirts)
There's a lot wrong with your post so I'll just say, no
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I am totally being pessimistic, but I am getting this nagging feeling that Delton will never be the starting QB at K-State.
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I am totally being pessimistic, but I am getting this nagging feeling that Delton will never be the starting QB at K-State.
If Snyder stays he won't be. They're going to play the experience factor and give the start to Huebner next year and then Delton is gonna transfer out, which I hope he does if that's the case.
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I am totally being pessimistic, but I am getting this nagging feeling that Delton will never be the starting QB at K-State.
We still got a couple more yrs of Pukea Joe Wantabe.
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I am totally being pessimistic, but I am getting this nagging feeling that Delton will never be the starting QB at K-State.
If Snyder stays he won't be. They're going to play the experience factor and give the start to Huebner next year and then Delton is gonna transfer out, which I hope he does if that's the case.
WTF!!!
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well hes probably not wrong :dunno:
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well hes probably not wrong :dunno:
It's the "I hope he does" that makes him a crap poster.
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I just cannot even imagine how I would react if Huebner is our starting QB next season. I am almost certain it would involve an airplane banner and I don't really want to go down that road.
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well hes probably not wrong :dunno:
It's the "I hope he does" that makes him a crap poster.
He's saying for Delton's sake he hope he transfers if he gets put behind Huebner on the depth chart again and I agree with him.
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There is no guarantee he gets the medical redshirt, he did play in two games. Based on the way this program is run could easily see Hub as QB next season and Delton sitting.
When they apply for the hardship he'll get it, he's way below the maximum threshold of time you're allowed to play. They may not even apply this year, they don't have to.
I was always under the impression that you CANNOT apply until your eligibility is otherwise exhausted.
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Every indication I've heard is that Delton is well liked by the coaching staff and will have every opportunity to win the job next fall. In fact, if he hadn't been injured I bet he would have started a game by now.
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Every indication I've heard is that Delton is well liked by the coaching staff and will have every opportunity to win the job next fall. In fact, if he hadn't been injured I bet he would have started a game by now.
I think he would've been the starter since Texas.
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Every indication I've heard is that Delton is well liked by the coaching staff and will have every opportunity to win the job next fall. In fact, if he hadn't been injured I bet he would have started a game by now.
I think he would've been the starter since Texas.
yes
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well hes probably not wrong :dunno:
It's the "I hope he does" that makes him a crap poster.
He's saying for Delton's sake he hope he transfers if he gets put behind Huebner on the depth chart again and I agree with him.
I think I would rather stand behind my school, than some kid I never met and don't know if he'll be any good.
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well hes probably not wrong :dunno:
It's the "I hope he does" that makes him a crap poster.
He's saying for Delton's sake he hope he transfers if he gets put behind Huebner on the depth chart again and I agree with him.
I think I would rather stand behind my school, than some kid I never met and don't know if he'll be any good.
be quiet
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Omg wacky itt, amazing
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well hes probably not wrong :dunno:
It's the "I hope he does" that makes him a crap poster.
He's saying for Delton's sake he hope he transfers if he gets put behind Huebner on the depth chart again and I agree with him.
I think I would rather stand behind my school, than some kid I never met and don't know if he'll be any good.
Why do you think it's an either or situation?
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well hes probably not wrong :dunno:
It's the "I hope he does" that makes him a crap poster.
He's saying for Delton's sake he hope he transfers if he gets put behind Huebner on the depth chart again and I agree with him.
I think I would rather stand behind my school, than some kid I never met and don't know if he'll be any good.
Why do you think it's an either or situation?
True KSU fans do not encourage athletes to leave the program. This leads to a crappier product on the field.
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Del Miller encouraged Daniel to leave the program , what does that make him.
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As long as we get to keep feeding Winston Dimel the ball, 'specially inside the 5, then I'm fine with absolutely every decision Del makes.
EVERY SINGLE ONE.
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I will bet season tickets for the next 30 years that Delton will never transfer :buh-bye:
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Del Miller encouraged Daniel to leave the program , what does that make him.
ISIS
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Del Miller encouraged Daniel to leave the program , what does that make him.
That Bastard!!! :surprised:
At least The Wizard wouldn't do that. :Carl:
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Bill loved(s) Daniel.
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Bill loved(s) Daniel.
he clearly didn't
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they had a sweet McNeese half zip at the Gear4sports warehouse sale for $12 but is was medium