You all deserve to be forewarned.

[IceHawkE]

You'll never get the other side of the story, so all we have left is the perspective from person that go booted by KSU Athletics.   You simply cannot take his version as fact.   When pressed to backup his claims, we get a lot of hard drive crash stories.  Yeah, right. 

Dax got punked big time and no amount of spin on his part is going to change that.   Poetic Justice.

[sonofdaxjones]

IceE .... now officially a member of the  Stalkers.

I never treated anything I emailed to KSU as something that would ever have to be documented .... geezus, we're talking like 3 or 4 Emails directly to Weiser (over 5 years) with the last one being about 6 or 7 months ago.     Sure I got punked ... I got punked because Tim Weiser didn't like what I said about him on the Internet.   

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[wildcatpete]

If this indeed did happen I would have to say it is very, very disturbing.  Doesn't Weiser have better and more important things to do than to worry about what fans say/think?  The whole Bomar message board incident does make me want to give you the benefit of the doubt.  This would make for a very interesting newspaper article, assuming once again it did in fact happen. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Like I keep saying, had it not happened, or had the conversation with Weiser not centered around the following:

1. An email I sent to Wefald 5 years ago.
2. My comments about Weiser on the Internet.
3. Me calling him an "idiot" I guess at some point in time.

Then I would've never have brought this up.

[jeffy]

Daxy,

you are old enough to know that there are consequences in everything.  If you cross over a line, then you had better be willing to be pushed back.  Too often people view the internet/email as a shield that prevents them from suffering retribution due to the anonymous nature of the beast.  I believe that this is not the case, as we see in your situation.  It's too bad that you had to become a martyr for the KState Nation, but it's a valuable lesson that everyone on the board should understand. 

[ScubaSteve]

If this indeed did happen I would have to say it is very, very disturbing.  Doesn't Weiser have better and more important things to do than to worry about what fans say/think?  The whole Bomar message board incident does make me want to give you the benefit of the doubt.  This would make for a very interesting newspaper article, assuming once again it did in fact happen. 

What's interesting about it?  Weiser sacked some guy that was undermining everything (except hiring Eddie Fogler, apparantly) that the KSU athletic department did.  And he was doing this publicly.  Yes internet BBSs are a public forum.  This wasn't just an occasional criticism.  This was a constant barrage of e-mails and posts on GoPowercat and elsewhere that Weiser and his staff evidently felt warranted this action.  We haven't seen his e-mails to the department or Wefald.   All we have are posts from "poor Dax" that say "I didn't do anything wrong."  

The only interesting thing that I could see come out of this is that I would like to hear the REAL reasons why they pulled his plug.  I'd like to see his correspondence and hear the AD's side of Dax's actions.  However, the nature of his posts elsewhere give me some idea of what he is capable of.  I can only imagine how he acted.  All Weiser did was make a decision to not to accept his business, based on his actions.  Weiser believed that Dax's actions were a hindrance to the advancement of the department.  Based on what I have seen and read, I agree.  Like it or not, it's Tim Weiser's job to run KSU athletics and he is doing so in a manner that the vast majority believes to be excellent and professional.

All I can say is that anything that helps to keep a person like Dax from sitting next to me at a ball game is a good thing.  All he does is constantly attmept to tear down what the professional, that my alma mater has hired, is trying to build.  And Dax does all this to do nothing more than feed his own ego... to make himself feel important.  Sad thing is, Dax is probably revelling in this whole thing.  He probably is taking great joy in the fact that he has been disassociated saying.  "Look at me!!    I'm important enough for Tim Weiser to notice me and disassociate me from KSU athletics!!"  Such a sad    life, if that is true.

[michigancat]

If you donate money to an organization, you totally have the right to question the leadership and direction of said organization.  In fact, it's extremely foolish not to.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yep ... I bombarded Weiser with Emails morning, noon and night ... filled up his email box, spammed his voicemail and sent 5 letters a day, certified mail-registered return receipt signature required in fact.

Scuba sures sounds more and more like a PI Wabash Zealot with every post.  

If you want, contact Weiser yourself, because if there's more to the story of:

1.  You called me an "idiot".
2.  You criticized me to much on the Internet.
3.  You sent an email to Wefald 5 years ago.
4.  You had the audacity to question what we're doing 2 years after we called you.

I'd sure love to hear it.

[sonofdaxjones]

Daxy,

you are old enough to know that there are consequences in everything.  If you cross over a line, then you had better be willing to be pushed back.  Too often people view the internet/email as a shield that prevents them from suffering retribution due to the anonymous nature of the beast.  I believe that this is not the case, as we see in your situation.  It's too bad that you had to become a martyr for the KState Nation, but it's a valuable lesson that everyone on the board should understand. 

Jeffy, if I actually thought Email was a "shield" then why would I sign them with my name and address??

[JavaCat]

All I can say is that anything that helps to keep a person like Dax from sitting next to me at a ball game is a good thing.  All he does is constantly attmept to tear down what the professional, that my alma mater has hired, is trying to build.  And Dax does all this to do nothing more than feed his own ego... to make himself feel important.  Sad thing is, Dax is probably revelling in this whole thing.  He probably is taking great joy in the fact that he has been disassociated saying.  "Look at me!!   dancing banana  I'm important enough for Tim Weiser to notice me and disassociate me from KSU athletics!!"  Such a sad  Crybaby  life, if that is true.

Oh give me a break. If you're so damn high and mighty why don't you be the better man and keep your thoughts of dax (a guy you don't even know) off the board? How the heck do you know why he makes the comments he does? Just maybe it's something he cares deeply about and hates seeing our athletic administration do some of the stupid things they've done. College athletics is a huge business now and you better be able to handle the criticism when you can't even run a simple event smoothly. How much criticism does George Bush take for the way he runs our country? Should he start disassociating Americans that don't agree with what he's doing and let their voices be heard?

[ScubaSteve]

If you donate money to an organization, you totally have the right to question the leadership and direction of said organization.  In fact, it's extremely foolish not to.

I agree.  You also have the right not to donate and the organization has the right to not accept your money.   If not, Dax should just go ahead and sue.  I'd love to see that.

[michigancat]

All I can say is that anything that helps to keep a person like Dax from sitting next to me at a ball game is a good thing.  All he does is constantly attmept to tear down what the professional, that my alma mater has hired, is trying to build.  And Dax does all this to do nothing more than feed his own ego... to make himself feel important.  Sad thing is, Dax is probably revelling in this whole thing.  He probably is taking great joy in the fact that he has been disassociated saying.  "Look at me!!   dancing banana  I'm important enough for Tim Weiser to notice me and disassociate me from KSU athletics!!"  Such a sad  Crybaby  life, if that is true.

Oh stfu. If you're so damn high and mighty why don't you be the better man and keep your thoughts of dax (a guy you don't even know) off the board? How the heck do you know why he makes the comments he does? Just maybe it's something he cares deeply about and hates seeing our athletic administration do some of the stupid things they've done. College athletics is a huge business now and you better be able to handle the criticism when you can't even run a simple event smoothly. How much criticism does George Bush take for the way he runs our country? Should he start disassociating Americans that don't agree with what he's doing and let their voices be heard?

Well put.  Agree 100%.

[ScubaSteve]

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Oh stfu. If you're so damn high and mighty why don't you be the better man and keep your thoughts of dax (a guy you don't even know) off the board? How the heck do you know why he makes the comments he does? Just maybe it's something he cares deeply about and hates seeing our athletic administration do some of the stupid things they've done. College athletics is a huge business now and you better be able to handle the criticism when you can't even run a simple event smoothly. How much criticism does George Bush take for the way he runs our country? Should he start disassociating Americans that don't agree with what he's doing and let their voices be heard?

Puhlease.  Last time I checked Tim Weiser wasn't an elected official and Ahearn donations aren't legally mandated like say... taxes.  Dax is free to criticize all he wants and I'm free to express my opinion about the fact that I believe his actions are harmful to KSU athletics.  kudos to Tim Weiser for standing up for what he believes is the right way to run KSU athletics.

[michigancat]

...I believe his actions are harmful to KSU athletics. 

Care to elaborate?

[sonofdaxjones]

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Oh stfu. If you're so damn high and mighty why don't you be the better man and keep your thoughts of dax (a guy you don't even know) off the board? How the heck do you know why he makes the comments he does? Just maybe it's something he cares deeply about and hates seeing our athletic administration do some of the stupid things they've done. College athletics is a huge business now and you better be able to handle the criticism when you can't even run a simple event smoothly. How much criticism does George Bush take for the way he runs our country? Should he start disassociating Americans that don't agree with what he's doing and let their voices be heard?

Puhlease.  Last time I checked Tim Weiser wasn't an elected official and Ahearn donations aren't legally mandated like say... taxes.  Dax is free to criticize all he wants and I'm free to express my opinion about the fact that I believe his actions are harmful to KSU athletics.  kudos to Tim Weiser for standing up for what he believes is the right way to run KSU athletics.

And the basic premise of this thread is ... be careful what you say.

[JavaCat]

Yeah, instead of being forced to pay for something, dax took some of his own hard-earned money and donated it to the University he loves. The shame!

Hey, dax isn't void of criticism here, but there's no need to make it personal and say that this is a guy you're glad you don't have to sit next to when you don't even know the guy.

[Houstoncat93]

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Oh stfu. If you're so damn high and mighty why don't you be the better man and keep your thoughts of dax (a guy you don't even know) off the board? How the heck do you know why he makes the comments he does? Just maybe it's something he cares deeply about and hates seeing our athletic administration do some of the stupid things they've done. College athletics is a huge business now and you better be able to handle the criticism when you can't even run a simple event smoothly. How much criticism does George Bush take for the way he runs our country? Should he start disassociating Americans that don't agree with what he's doing and let their voices be heard?

Puhlease.  Last time I checked Tim Weiser wasn't an elected official and Ahearn donations aren't legally mandated like say... taxes.  Dax is free to criticize all he wants and I'm free to express my opinion about the fact that I believe his actions are harmful to KSU athletics.  kudos to Tim Weiser for standing up for what he believes is the right way to run KSU athletics.

And the basic premise of this thread is ... be careful what you say.

Why should we be careful in what we say?  I've never believed that stifling dissent in any organization is a good thing.  There are always two sides to a story but based on you side Dax, Tim is way way out of line!!!  If you did something more than what is being said here then good for Tim in taking action but to disassociate someone for not speaking the company line of a PUBLIC university is just plain stupid.

[ScubaSteve]

...I believe his actions are harmful to KSU athletics. 

Care to elaborate?

Sure.  I believe that Dax's vendetta against the athletic department on the internet, that I believe has become a very powerful medium, creates an environment that undermines the efforts of Weiser and his staff to accomplish their goals in the manner that they wish to do it.  It creates an atmosphere that makes people think our department is incompetent, unfeeling, and inadequate, when I totally disagree.   I believe that his actions are actually making people believe that it would be a bad decision to give money to KSU athletics for fear that we have incompetent leadership.  I do not believe that is the case.  Pure and simple.

[ScubaSteve]

And the basic premise of this thread is ... be careful what you say.

Yeah, I read this post before you edited it.  So this is about the hot dogs and the truck, eh?  Good call.

[ScubaSteve]

Yeah, instead of being forced to pay for something, dax took some of his own hard-earned money and donated it to the University he loves. The shame!

Hey, dax isn't void of criticism here, but there's no need to make it personal and say that this is a guy you're glad you don't have to sit next to when you don't even know the guy.

What Dax isn't the PERSON making his posts?  He doesn't mean any of it?  It's all garbage and just for fun?  No, I've never met the guy in person, but I do know that anyone that acts the way that he does, even on the internet, is someone I don't want to know. 

Oh, and if you can get "personal" on the internet, then how is it I don't "know" Dax.  I've read hundreds of his posts.

[sonofdaxjones]

Not entirely ... just a couple of examples of "doing things right".

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, instead of being forced to pay for something, dax took some of his own hard-earned money and donated it to the University he loves. The shame!

Hey, dax isn't void of criticism here, but there's no need to make it personal and say that this is a guy you're glad you don't have to sit next to when you don't even know the guy.

What Dax isn't the PERSON making his posts?  He doesn't mean any of it?  It's all garbage and just for fun?  No, I've never met the guy in person, but I do know that anyone that acts the way that he does, even on the internet, is someone I don't want to know. 

The feeling is 100% mutual.

[michigancat]

...I believe his actions are harmful to KSU athletics. 

Care to elaborate?

Sure.  I believe that Dax's vendetta against the athletic department on the internet, that I believe has become a very powerful medium, creates an environment that undermines the efforts of Weiser and his staff to accomplish their goals in the manner that they wish to do it.  It creates an atmosphere that makes people think our department is incompetent, unfeeling, and inadequate, when I totally disagree.   I believe that his actions are actually making people believe that it would be a bad decision to give money to KSU athletics for fear that we have incompetent leadership.  I do not believe that is the case.  Pure and simple.

How is keeping him from donating going to help any of that?  Besides, what % of donors and potential donors do you think actually read Dax's posts, much less withhold donations because of them?  How are emails sent to KSU administration harmful?

[WILDCAT NATION]

I just wish we could figure out which title Scuba holds...

You would have loved Hitler.

[KSU176]

Dax,  how were the connections made between your screen name and letters/emails?  Who ratted you out?  Any guesses?

[MrWhite]

[sonofdaxjones]

Dax,  how were the connections made between your screen name and letters/emails?  Who ratted you out?  Any guesses?

Based on some of my posts, somebody in the Athletic Department could've put two and two together.  How a certain Dax hater from the PI Wabash Zealot crowd got my name, I don't know for sure.

[ScubaSteve]

I just wish we could figure out which title Scuba holds...

You would have loved Hitler.

Hey, I'm not saying that you don't have the right to say whatever you want.  Go right ahead, just don't expect me to have to agree with you.  Seems to me that you guys are the ones with the free speech problem.  Why do I have to agree?

Nation, I don't think I know anyone that has been more outspoken in his criticism of Weiser than you.  You're not disassociated, are you?  This is where Dax's story doesn't hold water.  It's not that I agree that you should be disassociated with KSU athletics if you are critical, I think you can criticize all you want.  I just don't care that Dax got disassociated.  I also think there's more to this story or you would be too.

Have at Weiser.  I don't care.  I think he's doing a good to exceptional job and I'm going to disagree with you.  Have at me.

[WILDCAT NATION]

I think he's done a great job in certain areas and a bad job in others...

I don't e-mail him, however...He is like the man in the box.  I communicate with others, and usually it's to obtain information or give congrats

[Houstoncat93]

I just wish we could figure out which title Scuba holds...

You would have loved Hitler.

Hey, I'm not saying that you don't have the right to say whatever you want.  Go right ahead, just don't expect me to have to agree with you.  Seems to me that you guys are the ones with the free speech problem.  Why do I have to agree?

I don't think anybody is saying you have to agree.  Nobody is calling for sanctions against you because you hold a minority opinion in this thread.  The problem I have is that dax did get very significant sanctions levied against him just because he voiced dissent (unless there is more to the story)