Martinites out in full validation mode tonight. I wish dax was around to take them down a peg or two.
We won't make the 4 letter tourney
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
So, IF we were to finish 10-6 conf, and win one game in the tourney, we're NIT ?Finish 10-6? LMAO
Two games ? NIT ? dunno......
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
why so angry? What is the idiotic logic? We do have garbage talent. You think we have more talent than TX?
I dunno, this team could easily lets Brackins and co destroy them in Manhattan next tuesday. We'll see a lot of hot and cold imo. At this point i'm expecting around 6-10, 7-9 - that should be enough, imo, for NIT - which is what most of us thought we would do this season.
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
why so angry? What is the idiotic logic? We do have garbage talent. You think we have more talent than TX?
But remember, that terrible talent couldn't be coached up??
Do you even remember what you guys were saying Steve? I suspect to much of this . . . :bong:
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
Guys . . . that's plural Steve . . g-u-y-s.I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
why so angry? What is the idiotic logic? We do have garbage talent. You think we have more talent than TX?
But remember, that terrible talent couldn't be coached up??
Do you even remember what you guys were saying Steve? I suspect to much of this . . . :bong:
I never said anything of the sort you f^cking retard.
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
Ya, all Clemente needed was better preparation from Frank to go off for 44...
Yeah, because all those screens they were setting for him early in the year didn't work. :rolleyes:
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
Ya, all Clemente needed was better preparation from Frank to go off for 44...
Yeah, because all those screens they were setting for him early in the year didn't work. :rolleyes:
But that was the point, instead of calling on DC to keep trying to create his own shots, they immediately started giving him some help to get him open. Prior to this last stretch . . . not so much.
This isn't that hard.
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
From during the ku game and after I remember some shots of him, but not today. At the half the announcer was like, "And Frank Martin has got to be thrilled." Frank was walking into the tunnel like someone had just cut him off in traffic.
Thank you dax.
Martinites will never recognize the fact that Frank Martin is a high school coach who doesn't have the first clue what he's doing out there.
This is the last Big 12 win this season.
It's pretty clear to any one who's not a rabid Martinite that Frank Martin doesn't have an effing clue on how to get this team prepared to play any semblance of Big 12 basketball.
Thank you dax.
Martinites will never recognize the fact that Frank Martin is a high school coach who doesn't have the first clue what he's doing out there.
This is the last Big 12 win this season.
It's pretty clear to any one who's not a rabid Martinite that Frank Martin doesn't have an effing clue on how to get this team prepared to play any semblance of Big 12 basketball.
I feel sorry for any current future coaches that have to put up with you and daxis bullcrap
Does anyone have a screenshot of Frank Martin smiling? I don't think I have ever seen a smile on his face like the one today.
Great coaching job by Martin today. A great game overall for K-State.
:beerchug:
Another thing: Awesome moment when Martin is facing away from our FT shooter down on a knee praying to his Cuban god. Then, said Cuban God comes through like crazy with the offensive rebound by Jamar. :woot:
Another thing: Awesome moment when Martin is facing away from our FT shooter down on a knee praying to his Cuban god. Then, said Cuban God comes through like crazy with the offensive rebound by Jamar. :woot:
this was one of my favorite moments in the game because I was praying too (though I was praying to Britney Spears and she came through).
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
Ya, all Clemente needed was better preparation from Frank to go off for 44...
Yeah, because all those screens they were setting for him early in the year didn't work. :rolleyes:
A lack of screens is why he's a career 33% 3P shooter. Heck, I'd run all my 33% gunners of screens.
He was hot today. No doubt about it. But it wasn't because Martin decided before the game that he was going to run him off picks. It was probably after he was 3-3 that Frank decided that.
I'm happy, great job by Frank.
Too bad he didn't have the team prepared to play like this to start the season.
But hey, I thought K-State had suck ass talent . . . the Martinites, they just can't get past their own idiotic logic.
you are tremendously dumb. have you ever won a fight w/ku fans?
Meanwhile . . . Frank is just destroying the Martinite talking point that this team has trash talent. Great job of coaching Frank!!
Another thing: Awesome moment when Martin is facing away from our FT shooter down on a knee praying to his Cuban god. Then, said Cuban God comes through like crazy with the offensive rebound by Jamar. :woot:
Overall the team has been much better prepared, and playing with a lot more confidence (except for everyone but Clemente at crunch time yesterday), great job of coaching by Frank for recovering from a $hit coaching job to start the conference season.
And LOL at the Martinites who are falling all over themselves trying to deny this reality.
Overall the team has been much better prepared, and playing with a lot more confidence (except for everyone but Clemente at crunch time yesterday), great job of coaching by Frank for recovering from a $hit coaching job to start the conference season.
And LOL at the Martinites who are falling all over themselves trying to deny this reality.
God I hate our Fans. :chainsaw:
Overall the team has been much better prepared, and playing with a lot more confidence (except for everyone but Clemente at crunch time yesterday), great job of coaching by Frank for recovering from a $hit coaching job to start the conference season.QFT
And LOL at the Martinites who are falling all over themselves trying to deny this reality.
Blah Blah Blah, you can't just "learn" how to be a good coach in two weeks.
Blah Blah Blah, the team does not have upper tier Big 12 talent.
Blah Blah Blah, Doc (for you sd and sys)!
:powertard:
LOL at Chin for going all Drama Queen. :lol: :thumbsup::confused:
Stupid thread. Frank got lucky yesterday (like Prince against :hornsdown). We simply are not a better team than Texas -- it was a fluke. The better test of Frank's abilities is to see whether he can compile the talent/coach 'em up to consistently beat North teams like CU, NU, MU, ISU without the best player in the nation.:flush:
Jury is still out on Frank, but he's 2-1 against those North barometers this year. (Although I still think there's a pretty good chance Frank's a suck coach.)
:kstatriot:
Stupid thread. Frank got lucky yesterday (like Prince against :hornsdown). We simply are not a better team than Texas -- it was a fluke. The better test of Frank's abilities is to see whether he can compile the talent/coach 'em up to consistently beat North teams like CU, NU, MU, ISU without the best player in the nation.YES!
Jury is still out on Frank, but he's 2-1 against those North barometers this year. (Although I still think there's a pretty good chance Frank's a suck coach.)
:kstatriot:
LOL . . .
Love this board.
K-State losses . . . Martinites blame it solely on the "crap talent".
K-State wins . . . Martinites pretty much painting it as nothing but luck, and do everything they can to discount coaching and the coaching staff having the team better prepared to play as compared to the start of the conference season.
How else can you explain it. Love the Martinites.
Again, great job by Frank in the last couple of games . . . team came out with great confidence, they looked prepared and ready for the game . . . everyone knew Texas was going to make a run (with a little help from the refs), and the team withstood it, overcame the shrivel factor and won the game. Almost a total 180 from the completely lost on the floor, 25 turnover performance at Nebraska.
Stupid thread. Frank got lucky yesterday (like Prince against :hornsdown). We simply are not a better team than Texas -- it was a fluke. The better test of Frank's abilities is to see whether he can compile the talent/coach 'em up to consistently beat North teams like CU, NU, MU, ISU without the best player in the nation.YES!
Jury is still out on Frank, but he's 2-1 against those North barometers this year. (Although I still think there's a pretty good chance Frank's a suck coach.)
:kstatriot:
Someone else who is not deluded to reality.
This team has won its last Big 12 game this year.
Stupid thread. Frank got lucky yesterday (like Prince against :hornsdown). We simply are not a better team than Texas -- it was a fluke. The better test of Frank's abilities is to see whether he can compile the talent/coach 'em up to consistently beat North teams like CU, NU, MU, ISU without the best player in the nation.YES!
Jury is still out on Frank, but he's 2-1 against those North barometers this year. (Although I still think there's a pretty good chance Frank's a suck coach.)
:kstatriot:
Someone else who is not deluded to reality.
This team has won its last Big 12 game this year.
Yeah, you're right. K-State has zero chance to beat the following teams at home:
Iowa State, Tech, Nebraska and a horrible Colorado team. Good job.
GMAFB
Oh Come on Steve . . . that's such a bull$hit response.
Here it is I am singing Frank's praises and you're asking me which Big 12 coach I'd take over Frank. :lol: :thumbsup:
And no Saul, I would much rather K-State win, but I am just :lol: at the Martinites who have now pretty much painted themselves into a corner.
At this moment in time, I wouldn't take anybody over Frank.
I think the job he's done adjusting, and instilling confidence back into this current K-State team has been great.
On the surface everyone can say it was all Clemente, but what I saw was a team that did a very good job of letting it be all Clemente yesterday, I mean if the guy is going to shoot and play like that on the road, you ride him to the end. Good floor spacing, excellent attempts at getting him free'd up from Pressure, and nice job of not only running him off some screens but delivering the passes to him.
At this moment in time, I wouldn't take anybody over Frank.
I think the job he's done adjusting, and instilling confidence back into this current K-State team has been great.
On the surface everyone can say it was all Clemente, but what I saw was a team that did a very good job of letting it be all Clemente yesterday, I mean if the guy is going to shoot and play like that on the road, you ride him to the end. Good floor spacing, excellent attempts at getting him free'd up from Pressure, and nice job of not only running him off some screens but delivering the passes to him.
I'd take Capel and Self, but all the rest are pretty much Nortard-equivalents.
At this moment in time, I wouldn't take anybody over Frank
At this moment in time, I wouldn't take anybody over FrankQFT
This isn't that hard. :rolleyes: :angryMJ:
I dunno, this team could easily lets Brackins and co destroy them in Manhattan next tuesday. We'll see a lot of hot and cold imo. At this point i'm expecting around 6-10, 7-9 - that should be enough, imo, for NIT - which is what most of us thought we would do this season.
At this moment in time, I wouldn't take anybody over FrankQFT
This isn't that hard. :rolleyes: :angryMJ:
He said it in plain English, I didn't see him stutter.
The transformation of Frank to a coach with out a clue how to prepare a team for Big 12 play to someone I (I agree with dax) think is the best coach in the Big 12 (AT THIS TIME) in 2 weeks is amazing.
I just wonder who taught Frank how to coach during the last two weeks? Or maybe it's just a matter of him caring enough to prepare the team now? :dunno:
Any guesses?
I'm shocked Dax is not a HUGE martinite.
Like I expect him to just walk around in a Frank Martin Doom shirt and glare at people while trying to emulate Frank's awesomeness.
Remember this Dax?
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh265/kstateimages/ku_bkc_ksu13_t800.jpg)
This team has won its last Big 12 game this year.
This team has won its last Big 12 game this year.
This team has won its last Big 12 game this year.
Idiotic statements like that diminishes the validity of any other statements you make, whether they have verity or not. :crazy:
(http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/11/authentic_drama_queen.jpg)ZING!
Pull it together Chin.
LOL at RustyKSUcat . . . remember, just two weeks ago we had crap, uncoachable talent, now we just got lucky. :lol:
Even bigger LOLers if K-State only wins 2 more games with home games left against NU, CU and ISU. But I wouldn't be too surprised if the "we've got crap talent" Martinites don't want that so they can say they were right.
Is it just me, or has the demise of the Wefald/Krause Era destroyed what was left of dax's reasoning ability?
This team has won its last Big 12 game this year.
Idiotic statements like that diminishes the validity of any other statements you make, whether they have verity or not. :crazy:
:powertard:
2 maybe 3 wins . . . this team is completely lost out there and Frank doesn't have the first clue. But he does run multiple defenses.
Ching is one of the elitest posters imo. Consistently isnightful posts that usually give me lollers.
Ching is one of the elitest posters imo. Consistently isnightful posts that usually give me lollers.
His posts are not nearly as elite as pixel fantasies and kstatriots uniting imo.
1st, this thread makes me think of the following:
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mba/lowres/mban775l.jpg)
2nd, this team is about where we thought they would be. We've won one, maybe 2 games many thought we wouldn't preseason (MU, @UT) and lost maybe 2 games many thought we wouldn't (@NU, BU). Just takes some getting used to, but we are pretty much playing to expectations; ie. being around a .500 Big 12 team. That trend should continue. I think Frank will deserve a ton of credit if he gets this team to 9 or more wins, and should only be criticized harshly if we finish with 6 or fewer wins. 7 to 8 is about what I expect and seems (and always has) reasonable to me.
I'd take Capel and Self, but all the rest are pretty much Nortard-equivalents.
Barnes would be ahead of either in my book
I'd take Capel and Self, but all the rest are pretty much Nortard-equivalents.
Barnes would be ahead of either in my book
Could you explain why? Other than the fact that you hate ku?
I don't know... if you looked at both teams, I'd say ku has more talent, even after losing 8 players from a National Championship team. Throw in Withey, Robinson, and Johnson next season, and that team will be ridiculous.
I don't know... if you looked at both teams, I'd say ku has more talent, even after losing 8 players from a National Championship team. Throw in Withey, Robinson, and Johnson next season, and that team will be ridiculous.
Other than the fact that you hate ku?
http://texas.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?sport=2
:eek:
http://texas.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?sport=2also the transfer from florida, jai lucas.
:eek:
Other than the fact that you hate ku?
Also, :rolleyes:
http://texas.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?sport=2
:eek:
Hamilton and Bradley are big-time prospects, but so are Robinson and Johnson. Texas is losing Abrams and possibly James, so they're in need of some immediate impact players. ku's basically just adding depth, unless Aldrich/Collins leave early.
Other than the fact that you hate ku?
Also, :rolleyes:
Well, Self has owned Barnes in the Big 12 tournament and just won a National Championship. I just don't see how Barnes' accomplishments measure up to that. Recruiting is virtually even. Barnes is a good coach, but Self has taken three different teams to the Elite Eight, including Tulsa.
http://texas.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?sport=2
:eek:
Hamilton and Bradley are big-time prospects, but so are Robinson and Johnson. Texas is losing Abrams and possibly James, so they're in need of some immediate impact players. ku's basically just adding depth, unless Aldrich/Collins leave early.
yeah, aldrich is leaving. collins will prolly bail as well. those are like, your two best players, by like, far.
Barnes hasn't done much with all the talent he has brought in over the last several years. Big 12 Co-Championships is about it.
If Self coached for Texas and Barnes coached for ku, it wouldn't even be a question, Steve. LOL @ your attempt to justify Barnes over Self based on recruiting. Last time I checked, ku and Texas have nearly identical classes for '09, and '10/'11 recruiting is just getting started.
not that he was recruiting poorly previously.
07 and 08 sucked for him
Recruiting isn't just about signing the highest ranked prospects.
Fair enough. I still think if you look at the '09 recruiting classes, they're pretty similar. ku has two top 25 5-stars (Johnson is 5-star on Scout, #26 overall on Rivals) and a top 35 4-star (Withey). Texas' '09 has two top 10 5-stars and a top 70.
I think Skycat made a good point, though. Recruiting isn't just about signing the highest ranked prospects. You need a blend of 3-4 year guys to go along with the 1-2-and-dones. That's the recipe for winning a National Championship.
i don't think there's any question that barnes and self are the prussia and russia of the big 12.
x2 tiai don't think there's any question that barnes and self are the prussia and russia of the big 12.
please extend this analogy
self is russia. barnes is prussia (look at his eyes). the big 12 is poland.Self would be Prussia....just saying
self is russia. barnes is prussia (look at his eyes). the big 12 is poland.Self would be Prussia....just saying
self is russia. barnes is prussia (look at his eyes). the big 12 is poland.Self would be Prussia....just saying
no, self is a better fit as russia. big, sloppy, ruddy-faced drunk, abundant natural resources.