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Title: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: NorthChamps07 on August 02, 2007, 12:08:13 PM
when they beat us it is a major victory celebrated for as long as possible. (usually one year) When we beat them, no biggie, that is the way it should be.  End of story.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Iceberg on August 02, 2007, 12:11:35 PM
ku fans may need an analogy to understand...
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 02, 2007, 12:15:45 PM
"The difference between ku football and KSU football"

Hall of Fame players and almost 30 more wins head to head.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on August 02, 2007, 12:18:57 PM
imo....
the difference is - KSU actually cares about their football program and has support from its alumni/fans...where as ku, well, we all know the answer to that one.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Jayhoxx on August 02, 2007, 12:20:19 PM
imo....
the difference is - KSU actually cares about their football program and has support from its alumni/fans...where as ku, well, we all know the answer to that one.

19 points and a couple thousand fans per game.  Give or take.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: steve dave on August 02, 2007, 12:22:01 PM
Why is this sock starting threads.  He is really making us look bad.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 02, 2007, 12:48:37 PM
"The difference between ku football and KSU football"

Hall of Fame players and almost 30 more wins head to head.
:lol:

Curious.. how many times did you see Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: bigdeal on August 02, 2007, 12:52:17 PM
"The difference between ku football and KSU football"

Hall of Fame players and almost 30 more wins head to head.

Unfortunately, most of those came before video was invented so it is difficult to see any of those wins or players.  I think the difference referred to things that might have occurred while most of us were alive. 
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: doom on August 02, 2007, 12:53:07 PM
Kstate:  Football is an opportunity for national recognition.

ku:  Football is an opportunity to wear tights and all match outfits.   :ku:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Trog on August 02, 2007, 12:55:15 PM
"The difference between ku football and KSU football"

Hall of Fame players and almost 30 more wins head to head.

Lynn Dickey - Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 02, 2007, 12:56:44 PM
"The difference between ku football and KSU football"

Hall of Fame players and almost 30 more wins head to head.

Lynn Dickey - Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame
Gary Spani - Kansas City Chiefs Hall of Fame
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: AzCat on August 02, 2007, 12:58:14 PM
The difference between ku football and KSU football 

Our coach isn't big enough that his gravitational field prevents light from escaping from his immediate vicinity ... yet. :cheers: :nutkick: :ustupid:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: KSU4ME on August 02, 2007, 01:42:51 PM
Trajan font.

Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Trog on August 02, 2007, 01:50:19 PM
"The difference between ku football and KSU football"

Hall of Fame players and almost 30 more wins head to head.

Lynn Dickey - Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame
Gary Spani - Kansas City Chiefs Hall of Fame

Steve Grogan - Patriots Hall of Fame
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 02, 2007, 02:47:45 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: kstate16 on August 02, 2007, 02:55:13 PM
this is simple.

they're gay and will rush the field with a win over a 7-4 team. A very weak field rushing at that. Here is some advice ku fans, if you're going to rush the field, go all the way, not half-assed. (See Texas-Kstate game for reference). :ksu:

when kstate beats ku, we are happy and look to the next game, instead of celebrating it for months and months.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: BigXIIpowercat on August 02, 2007, 02:56:19 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.

And I've seen Sayers in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
Masturbatory material need not be mentioned again. Thanks!
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 02, 2007, 03:38:29 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 02, 2007, 08:41:04 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: steve dave on August 02, 2007, 08:56:12 PM
No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.

Smells like old man in this thread  :yuck:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 02, 2007, 09:06:20 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 02, 2007, 09:46:35 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.

What do you mean by affect?  I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.  It certainly does affect me.  I know it's disappointing KSU hasn't had a player the level of a Sayers, Chamberlain, Manning, or even Riggins; but history is important in relation to the esteem a University is held in.  I know football only started at KSU in the 90's, but the rest of nation likes to have a bigger perspective.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: 1992 on August 02, 2007, 10:27:50 PM


I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.[/quote]

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Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 03, 2007, 12:36:39 AM


I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.

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Fred Phelps fan, I see.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 03, 2007, 02:36:58 AM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.

What do you mean by affect?  I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.  It certainly does affect me.  I know it's disappointing KSU hasn't had a player the level of a Sayers, Chamberlain, Manning, or even Riggins; but history is important in relation to the esteem a University is held in.  I know football only started at KSU in the 90's, but the rest of nation likes to have a bigger perspective.
You weren't around to celebrate Sayers career while it was going on at ku. I couldn't care less as to what KSU did in the 1950's. My kids will look back at KSU's absolute dominance over the Big XII (Snyder Era and now Prince) and not care either because they would rather the team win while they can see it than fifty years before. Get the point?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 03, 2007, 10:13:54 AM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.

What do you mean by affect?  I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.  It certainly does affect me.  I know it's disappointing KSU hasn't had a player the level of a Sayers, Chamberlain, Manning, or even Riggins; but history is important in relation to the esteem a University is held in.  I know football only started at KSU in the 90's, but the rest of nation likes to have a bigger perspective.
You weren't around to celebrate Sayers career while it was going on at ku. I couldn't care less as to what KSU did in the 1950's. My kids will look back at KSU's absolute dominance over the Big XII (Snyder Era and now Prince) and not care either because they would rather the team win while they can see it than fifty years before. Get the point?

Absolute dominance=1 Big 12 Championship?  And you don't care what KSU did in the 50's, 60's, 70's, or 80's because they did absolutely nothing.  Supporting a school means supporting it as a whole, it's history included.  It's a shame you choose not to do that with KSU.  I would certainly not call you a true KSU fan.  True fans care about the history and legacy of their school.  I know KSU fans like that.  Good people.  Supported KSU through thick and thin.  You seem only to care about when they do well.  Kind of pitiful. Get the point?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: KSU4ME on August 03, 2007, 10:14:52 AM
Thanks Mack!
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 03, 2007, 01:11:11 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.

What do you mean by affect?  I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.  It certainly does affect me.  I know it's disappointing KSU hasn't had a player the level of a Sayers, Chamberlain, Manning, or even Riggins; but history is important in relation to the esteem a University is held in.  I know football only started at KSU in the 90's, but the rest of nation likes to have a bigger perspective.
You weren't around to celebrate Sayers career while it was going on at ku. I couldn't care less as to what KSU did in the 1950's. My kids will look back at KSU's absolute dominance over the Big XII (Snyder Era and now Prince) and not care either because they would rather the team win while they can see it than fifty years before. Get the point?

Absolute dominance=1 Big 12 Championship?  And you don't care what KSU did in the 50's, 60's, 70's, or 80's because they did absolutely nothing.  Supporting a school means supporting it as a whole, it's history included.  It's a shame you choose not to do that with KSU.  I would certainly not call you a true KSU fan.  True fans care about the history and legacy of their school.  I know KSU fans like that.  Good people.  Supported KSU through thick and thin.  You seem only to care about when they do well.  Kind of pitiful. Get the point?
I supported our basketball program through the Asbury/Wooly years. I honestly just don't care about history. Sure, it's nice to talk about in the offseason, but is it near as fun as winning in the present time? Not even close. That's why all of you're 30 more head to head victories and hall of fame players bullcrap is dumb. You weren't around to witness it. All it is is something to brag about, which doesn't really appeal all that much to me. Get it?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: gib4ksu on August 03, 2007, 01:23:20 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: HaberstrohBVBC on August 03, 2007, 01:28:02 PM
Amen
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: JTKSU on August 03, 2007, 01:44:58 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.

What do you mean by affect?  I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.  It certainly does affect me.  I know it's disappointing KSU hasn't had a player the level of a Sayers, Chamberlain, Manning, or even Riggins; but history is important in relation to the esteem a University is held in.  I know football only started at KSU in the 90's, but the rest of nation likes to have a bigger perspective.

You know what's really pathetic?  When you try to list the great football players of your university of choice, run out at #2, and have to list two basktball players.  (What the hell was that all about?)  If you're gonna run "hall of fame players" smack, you might want to have more than two names in your back pocket. And no, you can't list hall of fame players from other sports.  You can have your "esteem" buddy, because your "esteem" stems from 2 players from 40 years ago, and a couple of basketball players.  (Still can't believe you did that.)
 :twobirds:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 04, 2007, 12:49:14 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.

What do you mean by affect?  I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.  It certainly does affect me.  I know it's disappointing KSU hasn't had a player the level of a Sayers, Chamberlain, Manning, or even Riggins; but history is important in relation to the esteem a University is held in.  I know football only started at KSU in the 90's, but the rest of nation likes to have a bigger perspective.

You know what's really pathetic?  When you try to list the great football players of your university of choice, run out at #2, and have to list two basktball players.  (What the hell was that all about?)  If you're gonna run "hall of fame players" smack, you might want to have more than two names in your back pocket. And no, you can't list hall of fame players from other sports.  You can have your "esteem" buddy, because your "esteem" stems from 2 players from 40 years ago, and a couple of basketball players.  (Still can't believe you did that.)
 :twobirds:

Oh, I can name more than two.  I like this challenge.  You start with Gale Sayers and John Riggins.  Then you have John Hadl, Bobby Douglas, Mike McCormack (NFL Hall of Famer if you didn't know).  Then Gilbert Brown, Dana Stubblefield, and Nolan Cromwell.  Hell, even Leroy Irvin.  Every single one of the people I listed were multiple time All-Pros in the NFL (actually not sure about Douglas, he did hold the NFL record for rushing yards in a season by a QB until Pit Bull broke it last year).  Three NFL Hall of Famers.  Three College Football Hall of Famers.  I believe Gary Spani is the only KSU guy in either Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: JTKSU on August 04, 2007, 02:26:32 PM
That's cute you all are using individual teams Hall of Fames'.  Cute.



I've seen Sayers play in a Jayhawk uniform plenty of times.  Thanks for asking.
So you're at least 50 then, I'm going to assume. And you're on an internet message board devoted to a team you despise. LOL @ you not having a life. It must be fun reminiscing about the days that you got to watch Sayers play in Memorial while all of your high school (assuming you reached it that far) classmates went on to marry and have kids.

No, not 50.  30.  They do have video you know.  I don't despise KSU at all.  You're the fun little brother who everyone picks on.  But we still love you.  Mizzou, I despise.  Had too many good friends go to KSU to despise it.
Video doesn't count. Sayers could have never played at ku and it wouldn't affect you in the least bit.

What do you mean by affect?  I am extremely proud that Gale Sayers attended my University and he is still a great ambassador for my University.  It certainly does affect me.  I know it's disappointing KSU hasn't had a player the level of a Sayers, Chamberlain, Manning, or even Riggins; but history is important in relation to the esteem a University is held in.  I know football only started at KSU in the 90's, but the rest of nation likes to have a bigger perspective.

You know what's really pathetic?  When you try to list the great football players of your university of choice, run out at #2, and have to list two basktball players.  (What the hell was that all about?)  If you're gonna run "hall of fame players" smack, you might want to have more than two names in your back pocket. And no, you can't list hall of fame players from other sports.  You can have your "esteem" buddy, because your "esteem" stems from 2 players from 40 years ago, and a couple of basketball players.  (Still can't believe you did that.)
 :twobirds:

Oh, I can name more than two.  I like this challenge.  You start with Gale Sayers and John Riggins.  Then you have John Hadl, Bobby Douglas, Mike McCormack (NFL Hall of Famer if you didn't know).  Then Gilbert Brown, Dana Stubblefield, and Nolan Cromwell.  Hell, even Leroy Irvin.  Every single one of the people I listed were multiple time All-Pros in the NFL (actually not sure about Douglas, he did hold the NFL record for rushing yards in a season by a QB until Pit Bull broke it last year).  Three NFL Hall of Famers.  Three College Football Hall of Famers.  I believe Gary Spani is the only KSU guy in either Hall of Fame.

More hypocrisy from the Bird Nation.  When A KSU fan brings up previous basketball success, we are brushed aside with a quick "oh yeah, well what have you done this decade?"  But it is perfectly acceptable for a ku fan to bring up football players who played in the leather helmet era.  Spin city wasn't taped in Lawrence, but it sure as hell should have been.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: royalswild on August 04, 2007, 02:47:16 PM
ku's 1st string rb cornish couldnt even go to nfl when ksu's 3rd string thomas clayton did, enjoy the cfl ku fans :loly: :loly:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 04, 2007, 09:49:46 PM
ku's 1st string rb cornish couldnt even go to nfl when ksu's 3rd string thomas clayton did, enjoy the cfl ku fans :loly: :loly:

Fat lot of good Clayton did for you all.  Very happy to have had Cornish over Clayton, thank you.  Where they're drafted really doesn't mean anything since they're not playing a down for either ku or KSU anymore.  I think it's more important what the player does for his while actually at the University.

"More hypocrisy from the Bird Nation.  When A KSU fan brings up previous basketball success, we are brushed aside with a quick "oh yeah, well what have you done this decade?"  But it is perfectly acceptable for a ku fan to bring up football players who played in the leather helmet era.  Spin city wasn't taped in Lawrence, but it sure as hell should have been."

How can you call me a hypocrite?  Never said what you allege.  You all have a fine basketball tradition, just no where near ku's.  And I don't think Gilbert Brown, Dana Stubblefield, Gale Sayers, John Riggins, Nolan Cromwell, Bobby Douglas, or John Hadl played in the leather helmet era.  I know you consider anything before Snyder ancient history, but the rest of the nation doesn't.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 04, 2007, 09:55:40 PM
Quote
Gilbert Brown, Dana Stubblefield, Gale Sayers, John Riggins, Nolan Cromwell, Bobby Douglas, or John Hadl


Basketball or football players?  :confused:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: cireksu on August 04, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
Difference between ku and ksu is that as sucky as we have been, we can still pull off an upset of a top 10 team ala texas 06.

Also for us a six win season is reason for doomsday a six win season for ku and you are on the brink of national fame.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: AzCat on August 04, 2007, 10:25:45 PM
Difference between ku and ksu is that as sucky as we have been, we can still pull off an upset of a top 10 team ala texas 06.

Also for us a six win season is reason for doomsday a six win season for ku and you are on the brink of national fame.

Yes, continue thinking happy thoughts.  Hold onto them for as long as you can.   :-X :redface: :crybaby:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: cireksu on August 04, 2007, 10:32:18 PM
Difference between ku and ksu is that as sucky as we have been, we can still pull off an upset of a top 10 team ala texas 06.

Also for us a six win season is reason for doomsday a six win season for ku and you are on the brink of national fame.

Yes, continue thinking happy thoughts.  Hold onto them for as long as you can.   :-X :redface: :crybaby:


don't get me wrong, I think we're back down to the ku's of the world.  But I do think we're slightly ahead of ku as a fb program.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Jayhoxx on August 04, 2007, 11:49:10 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

I never thought the prototype K-State fan could be exemplified to easily.  Well done.  To ingore anything prior to 1993 (and get so much else wrong) is not easy, yet so many follow this purple template.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: cireksu on August 04, 2007, 11:55:00 PM
LOL
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 05, 2007, 12:55:37 AM
ku's 1st string rb cornish couldnt even go to nfl when ksu's 3rd string thomas clayton did, enjoy the cfl ku fans :loly: :loly:
Fat lot of good Clayton did for you all.  Very happy to have had Cornish over Clayton, thank you. Where they're drafted really doesn't mean anything since they're not playing a down for either ku or KSU anymore.  I think it's more important what the player does for his while actually at the University.
Would you take the same stance regarding how well they do in their NFL careers?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 05, 2007, 09:21:53 AM
ku's 1st string rb cornish couldnt even go to nfl when ksu's 3rd string thomas clayton did, enjoy the cfl ku fans :loly: :loly:
Fat lot of good Clayton did for you all.  Very happy to have had Cornish over Clayton, thank you. Where they're drafted really doesn't mean anything since they're not playing a down for either ku or KSU anymore.  I think it's more important what the player does for his while actually at the University.
Would you take the same stance regarding how well they do in their NFL careers?

I think how they play in the NFL and how the represent their school in the NFL is much more important than where someone is drafted.  Who cares if you're drafted first round if you have a horrible NFL career.  More people are familiar with Tom Brady than Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch, no?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Jayhoxx on August 05, 2007, 11:40:08 AM
ku's 1st string rb cornish couldnt even go to nfl when ksu's 3rd string thomas clayton did, enjoy the cfl ku fans :loly: :loly:

Is the banner white lettering on a purple background, or the other way around?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 06, 2007, 12:33:31 AM
ku's 1st string rb cornish couldnt even go to nfl when ksu's 3rd string thomas clayton did, enjoy the cfl ku fans :loly: :loly:
Fat lot of good Clayton did for you all.  Very happy to have had Cornish over Clayton, thank you. Where they're drafted really doesn't mean anything since they're not playing a down for either ku or KSU anymore.  I think it's more important what the player does for his while actually at the University.
Would you take the same stance regarding how well they do in their NFL careers?

I think how they play in the NFL and how the represent their school in the NFL is much more important than where someone is drafted.  Who cares if you're drafted first round if you have a horrible NFL career.  More people are familiar with Tom Brady than Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch, no?
:blahblah: Backtracking like crazy.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 06, 2007, 10:10:35 AM
ku's 1st string rb cornish couldnt even go to nfl when ksu's 3rd string thomas clayton did, enjoy the cfl ku fans :loly: :loly:
Fat lot of good Clayton did for you all.  Very happy to have had Cornish over Clayton, thank you. Where they're drafted really doesn't mean anything since they're not playing a down for either ku or KSU anymore.  I think it's more important what the player does for his while actually at the University.
Would you take the same stance regarding how well they do in their NFL careers?

I think how they play in the NFL and how the represent their school in the NFL is much more important than where someone is drafted.  Who cares if you're drafted first round if you have a horrible NFL career.  More people are familiar with Tom Brady than Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch, no?
:blahblah: Backtracking like crazy.

Really? Backtracking?  You're excited about Clayton's pro career?  Especially after the great years he gave you at KSU?  It's too bad Cornish didn't get a shot at the NFL, but I'm pretty sure there will be no point in my life (even if by some act of God Clayton becomes Larry Johnson) that I'll say I wish we'd had Clayton instead of Cornish at ku.  The NFL players I listed above for ku actually did something at ku before becoming All-Pros and Hall of Famers.  You won't be able to say that with Clayton.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: hillwalking03 on August 06, 2007, 03:21:57 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

OMG!!! SUPERZ FAN11!!stanweber!!12!!!   :kugayfight:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 06, 2007, 03:24:51 PM
You just said that what they do in the pros doesn't matter. In the other thread you were touting that ku was so much better because of their Hall of Fame players. Guys like Sayers didn't do for ku what even Michael Bishop did for KSU.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2007, 03:25:59 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

OMG!!! SUPERZ FAN11!!stanweber!!12!!!   :kugayfight:

It's 20 years dude, how long have you (not your family or your cousin) owned season tickets to ku football?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 06, 2007, 03:37:13 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

I never thought the prototype K-State fan could be exemplified to easily.  Well done.  To ingore anything prior to 1993 (and get so much else wrong) is not easy, yet so many follow this purple template.
Isn't it sad that in just 14 years, we've trumped all of ku footballs accomplishments (100+years)?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: hillwalking03 on August 06, 2007, 03:44:20 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

I never thought the prototype K-State fan could be exemplified to easily.  Well done.  To ingore anything prior to 1993 (and get so much else wrong) is not easy, yet so many follow this purple template.
Isn't it sad that in just 14 years, we've trumped all of ku footballs accomplishments (100+years)?

Except wins and conference championships.  But hey, don't let me poop in the Cheerios.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 06, 2007, 03:49:15 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

I never thought the prototype K-State fan could be exemplified to easily.  Well done.  To ingore anything prior to 1993 (and get so much else wrong) is not easy, yet so many follow this purple template.
Isn't it sad that in just 14 years, we've trumped all of ku footballs accomplishments (100+years)?

Except wins and conference championships.  But hey, don't let me poop in the Cheerios.
Significant accomplishments, chief.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2007, 03:50:20 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

I never thought the prototype K-State fan could be exemplified to easily.  Well done.  To ingore anything prior to 1993 (and get so much else wrong) is not easy, yet so many follow this purple template.
Isn't it sad that in just 14 years, we've trumped all of ku footballs accomplishments (100+years)?

Except wins and conference championships.  But hey, don't let me poop in the Cheerios.
The only thing that matters is the last 20 years.  
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: hillwalking03 on August 06, 2007, 03:52:08 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

I never thought the prototype K-State fan could be exemplified to easily.  Well done.  To ingore anything prior to 1993 (and get so much else wrong) is not easy, yet so many follow this purple template.
Isn't it sad that in just 14 years, we've trumped all of ku footballs accomplishments (100+years)?

Except wins and conference championships.  But hey, don't let me poop in the Cheerios.
The only thing that matters is the last 20 years. 

That's right.  Sorry, I forgot the slogan.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2007, 03:54:34 PM
To all ku Fans on this board:

Your football team is about ready to be run over by a superior team.  Here is the deal.  I love KSU sports and the history of KSU Football from Pappy to Vince to Snyder to Prince.  Your pathetic little attempt to make ku Football sound soooo great is an absolute falsehood.  You have no chance at winning a title in football in the next decade or longer.  You tried to cheat to become better but got caught, now it looks like you are under investigation from the Attorney General in NY.  No suprise there.  You have how many players in the NFL?  One?  None?  You have never won four games in the Big 12, you have played in how many Cotton Bowls, Fiesta Bowls, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls?  How many times have you played in the Big 12 Championship?  How many times have you won/shared the North title?  How many All-Americans, All-Big 12 First Teamers, NCAA Coach of the Year, Big 12 Coach of the Year, Hiesman Candidates have you had.  How many times have you been on College Game Day?  How many times have you been ranked #1 in the Country in Football?  How many times have you beaten a great team?  How many times have you beaten the "best team ever" (OU '03)?  How many times have you had the pleasure of watching a truley talented, incredible, lynch mob esque Football Team?

That's enough.  Now go spread your wings and fly away!

Not bad for my first post since college Circa '91-'96 (season ticket holder since '87)

I never thought the prototype K-State fan could be exemplified to easily.  Well done.  To ingore anything prior to 1993 (and get so much else wrong) is not easy, yet so many follow this purple template.
Isn't it sad that in just 14 years, we've trumped all of ku footballs accomplishments (100+years)?

Except wins and conference championships.  But hey, don't let me poop in the Cheerios.
The only thing that matters is the last 20 years. 

That's right.  Sorry, I forgot the slogan.
Now that we're on the same page, please head back to the Phog and remind your classmates what a great Basketball program KSU has.  TIA.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: hillwalking03 on August 06, 2007, 03:58:59 PM
Do the last 20 years really matter if Christian Orr can't remember them?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2007, 04:02:55 PM
Do the last 20 years really matter if Christian Orr can't remember them?
The last 20 years only matter if we're talking basketball.  If we're talking football then they are not relevant, it's much more of a big picture discussion.  Just like it only matters if a player puts on weight in the off season if we're talking about anyone other than Sherron Collins.  You get it right?
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 06, 2007, 07:14:20 PM
Do the last 20 years really matter if Christian Orr can't remember them?
The last 20 years only matter if we're talking basketball.  If we're talking football then they are not relevant, it's much more of a big picture discussion.  Just like it only matters if a player puts on weight in the off season if we're talking about anyone other than Sherron Collins.  You get it right?

Why not talk about the entire history of both programs athletics.  Trust me, I'm willing to go back more than 20 years about ku basketball or football.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 06, 2007, 07:16:41 PM
You just said that what they do in the pros doesn't matter. In the other thread you were touting that ku was so much better because of their Hall of Fame players. Guys like Sayers didn't do for ku what even Michael Bishop did for KSU.

Wow. Never said that.  As you highlighted in an earlier post, I said where they're drafted isn't important.  It's what they do once they're in the NFL that does.  And the difference between Sayers and Bishop is that Sayers did it in both the NFL and college.  Bishop hasn't even been able to do it in the CFL or AFL.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 06, 2007, 08:46:37 PM
I made this in Photoshop, all by myself.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/Carpy/futbol.gif)
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 06, 2007, 08:47:31 PM
needs to be 1993, but otherwise, oceans of LOL there.


 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 06, 2007, 09:16:31 PM
You just said that what they do in the pros doesn't matter. In the other thread you were touting that ku was so much better because of their Hall of Fame players. Guys like Sayers didn't do for ku what even Michael Bishop did for KSU.

Wow. Never said that.  As you highlighted in an earlier post, I said where they're drafted isn't important.  It's what they do once they're in the NFL that does.  And the difference between Sayers and Bishop is that Sayers did it in both the NFL and college.  Bishop hasn't even been able to do it in the CFL or AFL.
You said you didn't care because they weren't playing at ku anymore. Thus, what they did in their pro careers shouldn't matter to you either. And in that case, Bishop > Sayers because Bishop did more for KSU in his two years than Sayers did for ku. (I'll admit that I don't know sh*t about ku from 61-64, but I'll assume that ku wasn't a top five team that won a bowl game in one year and then on the brink of a national championship the next. Again, I could be wrong, but I doubt it).
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: hillwalking03 on August 06, 2007, 09:25:23 PM
The closest we have come to a National Title was in 1969.  We were ranked sixth heading into the Orange Bowl against Penn State, where they upset us (we were actually favored) 15-14 because of a penalty for having 12 men on the field. 
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 06, 2007, 09:29:04 PM
The closest we have come to a National Title was in 1969.  We were ranked sixth heading into the Orange Bowl against Penn State, where they upset us (we were actually favored) 15-14 because of a penalty for having 12 men on the field. 
I see. Well that answers my question then..
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2007, 09:33:19 PM
The closest we have come to a National Title was in 1969.  We were ranked sixth heading into the Orange Bowl against Penn State, where they upset us (we were actually favored) 15-14 because of a penalty for having 12 men on the field. 

If it's not calling timeouts when they don't have any in basketball, it's forgetting how to count in football . . . that's our ku.

I wonder which ku coach hosts at his home the JUCO recruit "get eligible" online test taking now??

ku Basketball and Football . . . on probation again.



Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: hillwalking03 on August 06, 2007, 09:38:21 PM
The closest we have come to a National Title was in 1969.  We were ranked sixth heading into the Orange Bowl against Penn State, where they upset us (we were actually favored) 15-14 because of a penalty for having 12 men on the field. 

If it's not calling timeouts when they don't have any in basketball, it's forgetting how to count in football . . . that's our ku.

I wonder which ku coach hosts at his home the JUCO recruit "get eligible" online test taking now??

ku Basketball and Football . . . on probation again.





The obsession is flattering, but seriously...
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/ncb/2003/0313/photo/pasco_i.jpg)
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 06, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
The closest we have come to a National Title was in 1969.  We were ranked sixth heading into the Orange Bowl against Penn State, where they upset us (we were actually favored) 15-14 because of a penalty for having 12 men on the field. 

If it's not calling timeouts when they don't have any in basketball, it's forgetting how to count in football . . . that's our ku.

I wonder which ku coach hosts at his home the JUCO recruit "get eligible" online test taking now??

ku Basketball and Football . . . on probation again.





The obsession is flattering, but seriously...
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/ncb/2003/0313/photo/pasco_i.jpg)
STOP being so mean!  :crybaby:
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: Sandman on August 07, 2007, 12:10:28 AM
You just said that what they do in the pros doesn't matter. In the other thread you were touting that ku was so much better because of their Hall of Fame players. Guys like Sayers didn't do for ku what even Michael Bishop did for KSU.

Wow. Never said that.  As you highlighted in an earlier post, I said where they're drafted isn't important.  It's what they do once they're in the NFL that does.  And the difference between Sayers and Bishop is that Sayers did it in both the NFL and college.  Bishop hasn't even been able to do it in the CFL or AFL.
You said you didn't care because they weren't playing at ku anymore. Thus, what they did in their pro careers shouldn't matter to you either. And in that case, Bishop > Sayers because Bishop did more for KSU in his two years than Sayers did for ku. (I'll admit that I don't know sh*t about ku from 61-64, but I'll assume that ku wasn't a top five team that won a bowl game in one year and then on the brink of a national championship the next. Again, I could be wrong, but I doubt it).

Please find where I said I didn't care because they weren't playing at ku anymore.  Otherwise I can't take you seriously.  Your making up my side of the argument to make yourself sound better. 

And while it's fair to say Bishop's team fared better, no argument there, I don't think it's fair to say Bishop did more than Sayers during their collegiate career.  Sayers is still known as the Kansas Comet because of what he did first at Kansas.  He ain't called the Chicago Comet.  He is also in the College Football Hall of Fame, Bishop isn't.  So it seems at least those folks feel he had the better college career.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: kst8cat on August 07, 2007, 11:09:04 AM
You just said that what they do in the pros doesn't matter. In the other thread you were touting that ku was so much better because of their Hall of Fame players. Guys like Sayers didn't do for ku what even Michael Bishop did for KSU.

Wow. Never said that.  As you highlighted in an earlier post, I said where they're drafted isn't important.  It's what they do once they're in the NFL that does.  And the difference between Sayers and Bishop is that Sayers did it in both the NFL and college.  Bishop hasn't even been able to do it in the CFL or AFL.
You said you didn't care because they weren't playing at ku anymore. Thus, what they did in their pro careers shouldn't matter to you either. And in that case, Bishop > Sayers because Bishop did more for KSU in his two years than Sayers did for ku. (I'll admit that I don't know sh*t about ku from 61-64, but I'll assume that ku wasn't a top five team that won a bowl game in one year and then on the brink of a national championship the next. Again, I could be wrong, but I doubt it).

Please find where I said I didn't care because they weren't playing at ku anymore.  Otherwise I can't take you seriously.  Your making up my side of the argument to make yourself sound better. 

And while it's fair to say Bishop's team fared better, no argument there, I don't think it's fair to say Bishop did more than Sayers during their collegiate career.  Sayers is still known as the Kansas Comet because of what he did first at Kansas.  He ain't called the Chicago Comet.  He is also in the College Football Hall of Fame, Bishop isn't.  So it seems at least those folks feel he had the better college career.

It often takes many years to get into the CFBHOF.  Bishop could easily make it there at some point.  He actually finished second in Heisman Trophy balloting.  Where did Sayers end up?  I see he did not make the top three in any of the three years he played at ku.  Did he even make the top ten? 

Spani is in the HOF, but it was 25 years after his playing days were done that he made it.  John Hadl took 33 years, and Sayers took 13 years to be inducted, and it has not been that long yet on Bishop, so your argument on him not being in the HOF does not hold much water.  Snyder is a shoe-in as soon as he is eligible.  Also, don't forget Pappy Waldorf and Charlie Bachman are there as well (both former K-State coaches). 

And LOL at somebody bringing up Manning.  Mitch Richmond had by far the superior NBA career.  The only player in ku history you could make a case for being a better pro than Richmond would be Chamberlain, and he was not made very welcome in Lawrence at the time and was shunned for leaving early as well.  Took a long time for those wounds to heal.
Title: Re: The difference between ku football and KSU football
Post by: waks on August 08, 2007, 01:36:08 AM
You just said that what they do in the pros doesn't matter. In the other thread you were touting that ku was so much better because of their Hall of Fame players. Guys like Sayers didn't do for ku what even Michael Bishop did for KSU.

Wow. Never said that.  As you highlighted in an earlier post, I said where they're drafted isn't important.  It's what they do once they're in the NFL that does.  And the difference between Sayers and Bishop is that Sayers did it in both the NFL and college.  Bishop hasn't even been able to do it in the CFL or AFL.
You said you didn't care because they weren't playing at ku anymore. Thus, what they did in their pro careers shouldn't matter to you either. And in that case, Bishop > Sayers because Bishop did more for KSU in his two years than Sayers did for ku. (I'll admit that I don't know sh*t about ku from 61-64, but I'll assume that ku wasn't a top five team that won a bowl game in one year and then on the brink of a national championship the next. Again, I could be wrong, but I doubt it).

Please find where I said I didn't care because they weren't playing at ku anymore.  Otherwise I can't take you seriously.  Your making up my side of the argument to make yourself sound better. 

And while it's fair to say Bishop's team fared better, no argument there, I don't think it's fair to say Bishop did more than Sayers during their collegiate career.  Sayers is still known as the Kansas Comet because of what he did first at Kansas.  He ain't called the Chicago Comet.  He is also in the College Football Hall of Fame, Bishop isn't.  So it seems at least those folks feel he had the better college career.
"Where they were drafted doesn't really matter because they won't take a down for KSU or ku anymore."

You're saying that what happens after they leave their schools doesn't matter anymore. I really don't think that this is too hard of a concept to grasp.

As far as Sayers having the better college career.. I guess it depends on what you consider to make a career better. Yeah, Sayers had more yards than Bishop and turned out to be a better pro but Bishop only lost three games in college and finished second in the running for the Heisman. Bishop gave Kansas State better seasons than what Sayers did. So, based on the quote above, you would have to say that you would prefer Bishop over Sayers because he did more for K-State in college than Sayers did for ku. I really am sorry if you can't grasp this simple logic. Don't blame me.