The Royals

[kslim]

It's business.

so its okay to send moose and gordo down (high contract players) but not rios. eff investment bullshit play the best player and send the dude down to get crap figured out

[420seriouscat69]

I agree cf3. Also, Scott Boras owns us: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HEAB4XsEMFMcDHOKZiKUInypOGJWBya9QEmjCNXZGB0/pub?output=html

[420seriouscat69]

It's business.

so its okay to send moose and gordo down (high contract players) but not rios. eff investment bullshit play the best player and send the dude down to get crap figured out

They were in the system and not making that money yearly. I know it's dumb, but I understand why they don't wanna throw a 11 mill player in the minors on a short term contract.

[mocat]

Dyson has an OWAR of +0.7 after only 96 ABs 

(Rios' is -0.7 after 141 ABs)

i think OWAR overvalues stolen bases but that's neither here nor there

[Cartierfor3]

I agree cf3. Also, Scott Boras owns us: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HEAB4XsEMFMcDHOKZiKUInypOGJWBya9QEmjCNXZGB0/pub?output=html

We got GREAT value on Boras clients Morales and Morales and Madson.

[sys]

I was super happy for Paulo yesterday, but I don't think he's the answer

it's mostly dyson, orlando only against lefties.  if you look at dyson and orlando's stats, you can probably reasonably expect a platoon of those two to be in the .650-725 ops range.  with great speed and defense.  that's a pretty huge upgrade over what rios has done.

and you might get lucky and do better.  dyson has looked great in the limited opportunities he's had this year.

[kslim]

It's business.

so its okay to send moose and gordo down (high contract players) but not rios. eff investment bullshit play the best player and send the dude down to get crap figured out

They were in the system and not making that money yearly. I know it's dumb, but I understand why they don't wanna throw a 11 mill player in the minors on a short term contract.

im not saying to send him down forever but running him out there right now is basically playing 8 on 9. ned has done a great job( obv dayton too) but both are stubborn as hell

[Cartierfor3]

I was super happy for Paulo yesterday, but I don't think he's the answer

it's mostly dyson, orlando only against lefties.  if you look at dyson and orlando's stats, you can probably reasonably expect a platoon of those two to be in the .650-725 ops range.  with great speed and defense.  that's a pretty huge upgrade over what rios has done.

and you might get lucky and do better.  dyson has looked great in the limited opportunities he's had this year.

i'm fine with this

[TownieCat]

Just because you owe a guy money doesn't mean you owe him playing time. David Lee was the highest paid player for Golden State ($15M) and was a cheerleader for much of the season. That worked out pretty well for them

[kso_FAN]

The options with Rios are limited. You don't send a 10 year vet free agent down. The injury led to more patience, but eventually you have to either bench him or DFA him. It would appear his option for next year is done hopefully if he doesn't get a lot better soon.

[slobber]

Just because you owe a guy money doesn't mean you owe him playing time. David Lee was the highest paid player for Golden State ($15M) and was a cheerleader for much of the season. That worked out pretty well for them

Get Rios a hotdog cannon and put him to work.

[Cartierfor3]

 

[sys]

i've never seen anyone complain about yost resting perez too much before.

[Missouriscribe]

I feel like a trade is definitely happening. Omar may have played just well enough lately to keep his job, but we're adding a pitcher and probably an outfielder. Moore and Glass want to seize the window we have.

[sys]

I feel like a trade is definitely happening. Omar may have played just well enough lately to keep his job, but we're adding a pitcher and probably an outfielder. Moore and Glass want to seize the window we have.

they already cut a guy who half the league would want.  they're gonna add ventura and medlen to the roster soon.  so that's probably blanton and finnegan.  who else are you gonna cut to make room for the new pitcher?  unless you say rios, you better be talking about adding a genuine badass (who'll cost a ton).

[kslim]

paplebon and hamels both want out. not sure if we'd take on their contracts but they could be helpful

[sys]

i forgot about vargie.  so that takes care of orlando or rios too.

[TownieCat]

paplebon and hamels both want out. not sure if we'd take on their contracts but they could be helpful

Hamels would be a nice addition but the guy is signed on for 22.5M/year thru 2018. I can't see DM going for that.

Papelbon would be a great 6th inning set up guy if it weren't for his ridiculous salary. He also seems like a prick who would be a cancer in the clubhouse.

[mocat]

i love this team but i don't see a way to win a 7 game playoff series unless every hitter is super hot like last year's playoffs and april of this year

[WillieWatanabe]

 

wait, he's on facebook but not twitter?? weird.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The options with Rios are limited. You don't send a 10 year vet free agent down. The injury led to more patience, but eventually you have to either bench him or DFA him. It would appear his option for next year is done hopefully if he doesn't get a lot better soon.

We need to DFA him. We don't have room for him on this roster, and it's a joke that we already DFA'd Frasor instead.

[420seriouscat69]

One of my pet peeves about playoff formats in the mlb and the nfl is that you could have the 2nd best record in the American League, be 2nd in your division, and end up as a wildcard. Sorry for the random rant, I just checked the standings and I feel bad for the Pirates. I like them. This has happened to the Chiefs too.

[steve dave]

quit ranting wackycat

[Powercat Posse]

My thoughts....

Rios -- I am fine that he is a very average Defender, but like FAN talked about, he has to be a decent hitter with some power then. I am even able to look past those first 10 games back from injury when he really struggled. But even since then, he is hitting .253 and only 1 of his 19 hits are for extra bases.  We need to see .275-280 with 30% of his hits going for extra bases

Dyson-- the first 1/4 of the year, he wasn't good. He was at .180/.219 (ave/OBP). The next 1/4 he has been much more productive in limited chances.  15 for his last 35. 

Orlando -- very likable guy and like Dyson, an above ave defender. His first 3 weeks, he hit .289 with 5 3B's.  Next 5 weeks his Ave was .209 and had 0 BBs or 3B. 

I don't think Orlando will be here long, unless an injury occurs.  I do feel like Dyson needs more PT now that he is getting on base much better than before. It's not gonna be 60/40, but Rios should be resting 2 of the 6/7 games per week until he proves himself more.    Ned isn't gonna rest him more than that, but resting him once every 3 weeks shouldn't be happening.

No way at this point do we consider Rios option for next year. At this point, it's clear Dayton took a shot and missed on this signing. But I'm glad we only are obligated for the 1 year.  He took a shot on someone with more pop in his bat over an Aoki. ChiSox took a chance on M Cabreara (someone we were rumored to be interested in). His .260 ave, .335 Slug isn't living up to a 3year 42M contract.

I don't believe they would have signed a 2nd starting pitcher to a 3-4 year deal had they not signed Rios. Their payroll would just have been lower this year with a cheaper RF.  IMO I don't believe spending that extra money for 1 year on Rios will deter Dayton from looking for a good option for a RF next year.

[sys]

i love this team but i don't see a way to win a 7 game playoff series unless every hitter is super hot like last year's playoffs and april of this year

they have like five/six guys that go out and pitch single scoreless innings every damn day.  they only had three last year (which is why they won, not hot hitters).