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« Reply #14275 on: July 15, 2014, 07:12:16 PM »

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« Reply #14276 on: July 15, 2014, 07:41:09 PM »
Guys, let's make a list of aging, yet still productive, bats on crappy teams. .800 OPS types are the minimum.

I'll start with a couple: slash stats are for the first half of this season.

Mike Napoli (1B) Boston - .266/ .389/ .461, .820 OPS - Napoli is 32, his contract runs through next season. Scheduled to make $16 mill next season. He's been pretty consistent along those slash lines and has given teams around 25 HR a year for the last few. Doesn't help the OF situation, but a good bat and avail for 1B and DH.

Adam Dunn (1B) Chi Sox - .224/ .361/ .437 - Dunn is 34, and in the final year of his contract. He's Making $15 million this season. As we all know Dunn is the anti-Royal. He walks a ton, hits the ball hard (14 HR this season), and strikes out a lot. He's also better at 1B than people give him credit for. This would be a true rental, but there may be a chance to retain depending on his price tag and the Royals chances for future success. The White Sox aren't that bad, but Dunn really wouldn't be in a long-term option.

Justin Morneau (1B) Rockies - .214/ .345/ .512 - Morneau is 33 and is having a resurgent year, though he's risky as a lot of it prob has to do with being in Colorado. He's also signed through 2016, but with a cheaper price tag of $6.75 million (2015), $9 million (2016, mutual option) Morneau has 13 HR at the break, and has always been able to walk a decent amount. It's hard for me to believe though, that he could translate his Coors Field success to the K.

Obviously there are others, and a guy who could play OF might be a better option.





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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14277 on: July 15, 2014, 07:45:52 PM »
Morneau is the right choice.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14278 on: July 15, 2014, 07:48:23 PM »
Morneau is the right choice.

Of all, or just that group of three?
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« Reply #14279 on: July 15, 2014, 07:53:49 PM »

Morneau is the right choice.

Of all, or just that group of three?

We had a mind meld because I have been thinking about writing something up about how the royals should get him after I heard that the Rockies were shopping him.  I think he is better than the other two and the best realistic option I've heard of.

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« Reply #14280 on: July 15, 2014, 08:00:23 PM »

Morneau is the right choice.

Of all, or just that group of three?

We had a mind meld because I have been thinking about writing something up about how the royals should get him after I heard that the Rockies were shopping him.  I think he is better than the other two and the best realistic option I've heard of.

I don't think he's the best player of the 3 but I think he's the best option. Especially if they could get Seattle to actually give something up for Billy

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« Reply #14281 on: July 15, 2014, 08:02:30 PM »

Morneau is the right choice.

Of all, or just that group of three?

We had a mind meld because I have been thinking about writing something up about how the royals should get him after I heard that the Rockies were shopping him.  I think he is better than the other two and the best realistic option I've heard of.

Only thing is Colorado is an NL team, which may drive down a guy like Butler's value, if he would be a piece. There are still many other options the Royals could offer. It does seem though that Morneau has freed himself from the injuries that riddled him in 2010, 11.

I think despite Billy's recent struggles he is still a valuable piece to a team's (including KC) future. He's only 28, I also don't think he is the swiss cheese that he's made out to be at first.
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14282 on: July 15, 2014, 08:03:34 PM »

Morneau is the right choice.

Of all, or just that group of three?

We had a mind meld because I have been thinking about writing something up about how the royals should get him after I heard that the Rockies were shopping him.  I think he is better than the other two and the best realistic option I've heard of.

I don't think he's the best player of the 3 but I think he's the best option. Especially if they could get Seattle to actually give something up for Billy

Colorado? Or are you talking multiple deals?
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14283 on: July 15, 2014, 08:10:58 PM »

Morneau is the right choice.

Of all, or just that group of three?

We had a mind meld because I have been thinking about writing something up about how the royals should get him after I heard that the Rockies were shopping him.  I think he is better than the other two and the best realistic option I've heard of.

I don't think he's the best player of the 3 but I think he's the best option. Especially if they could get Seattle to actually give something up for Billy

Colorado? Or are you talking multiple deals?

Multiple deals. Like you said, I don't see Billy having much value for an NL team. I'd probably stay pat if you can't get anything for Billy but if you can somehow get something of value from someone like Seattle do it then go after Morneu.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14284 on: July 15, 2014, 08:49:01 PM »

Morneau is the right choice.

Of all, or just that group of three?

We had a mind meld because I have been thinking about writing something up about how the royals should get him after I heard that the Rockies were shopping him.  I think he is better than the other two and the best realistic option I've heard of.

Only thing is Colorado is an NL team, which may drive down a guy like Butler's value, if he would be a piece. There are still many other options the Royals could offer. It does seem though that Morneau has freed himself from the injuries that riddled him in 2010, 11.

I think despite Billy's recent struggles he is still a valuable piece to a team's (including KC) future. He's only 28, I also don't think he is the swiss cheese that he's made out to be at first.

I don't think the Royals are moving Butler who is owed just under $4 million for the rest of this year without paying at least some of it and probably some cash toward the $1 million buyout (there is a $12.5 million team option too :lol: ) and I don't think they get much more than a long or middle reliever.  Like they would be lucky to get Carson Smith (Side arm ROOGY at AAA Tacoma) out of Seattle for Billy assuming they pick up the tab, and they should absolutely do that deal.

As for Morneau, he is basically Mike Sweeney and given his health history he might not be useful beyond this year ($6.75MM 2015, $9MM 2016 team mutual option/$750K buyout) but he will be cheaper than Billy.  I think the Royals will need to give up some decent prospects to get him.  I think trading a utility guy, a useful cheap reliever with team control and something other prospect will be the ask.  Christian Colon or Johnny Giovatella + Bueno + Almonte or Manaea would be a reasonable deal in my mind if the Royals really want to make a move.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14285 on: July 15, 2014, 10:03:06 PM »
Its mind blowing that Dunn is only 34. He seems more like 43.

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« Reply #14286 on: July 15, 2014, 10:12:10 PM »
Its mind blowing that Dunn is only 34. He seems more like 43.

One of my favorite Dunn things.

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« Reply #14287 on: July 15, 2014, 10:18:19 PM »
I just picture Dunn eating a giant steak for every meal

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14288 on: July 15, 2014, 10:21:35 PM »
i don't know what Adam Dunn looks like so i just fill in Ryan Dunn instead and the visual still works

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14289 on: July 15, 2014, 10:23:48 PM »
i don't know what Adam Dunn looks like so i just fill in Ryan Dunn instead and the visual still works
Not far off

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14290 on: July 15, 2014, 10:24:16 PM »
I just picture Dunn eating a giant steak for every meal


One of my favorite Dunn things.


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« Reply #14291 on: July 15, 2014, 10:26:20 PM »



Yea basically the same person

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« Reply #14292 on: July 15, 2014, 10:28:25 PM »
I just picture Dunn eating a giant steak for every meal


One of my favorite Dunn things.



I mean, I'm sure he throws in some chili for breakfast from time to time

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14293 on: July 15, 2014, 10:28:58 PM »
Jfc which is which?  Am I a baseball savant?

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« Reply #14295 on: July 15, 2014, 10:30:21 PM »
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« Reply #14296 on: July 15, 2014, 10:30:40 PM »
Jfc which is which?  Am I a baseball savant?

Stevesie is rubbing off on you really nicely.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14297 on: July 16, 2014, 09:06:00 AM »
Guys, let's make a list of aging, yet still productive, bats on crappy teams. .800 OPS types are the minimum.

I'll start with a couple: slash stats are for the first half of this season.

Mike Napoli (1B) Boston - .266/ .389/ .461, .820 OPS - Napoli is 32, his contract runs through next season. Scheduled to make $16 mill next season. He's been pretty consistent along those slash lines and has given teams around 25 HR a year for the last few. Doesn't help the OF situation, but a good bat and avail for 1B and DH.

Adam Dunn (1B) Chi Sox - .224/ .361/ .437 - Dunn is 34, and in the final year of his contract. He's Making $15 million this season. As we all know Dunn is the anti-Royal. He walks a ton, hits the ball hard (14 HR this season), and strikes out a lot. He's also better at 1B than people give him credit for. This would be a true rental, but there may be a chance to retain depending on his price tag and the Royals chances for future success. The White Sox aren't that bad, but Dunn really wouldn't be in a long-term option.

Justin Morneau (1B) Rockies - .214/ .345/ .512 - Morneau is 33 and is having a resurgent year, though he's risky as a lot of it prob has to do with being in Colorado. He's also signed through 2016, but with a cheaper price tag of $6.75 million (2015), $9 million (2016, mutual option) Morneau has 13 HR at the break, and has always been able to walk a decent amount. It's hard for me to believe though, that he could translate his Coors Field success to the K.

Obviously there are others, and a guy who could play OF might be a better option.

What is the OF situation?  I mean cain, gordon, dyson seem like a good set up, then we have a few serviceable bench guys.  A decent backup at 1st seems like it would make sense.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14298 on: July 16, 2014, 09:45:15 AM »
Guys, let's make a list of aging, yet still productive, bats on crappy teams. .800 OPS types are the minimum.

I'll start with a couple: slash stats are for the first half of this season.

Mike Napoli (1B) Boston - .266/ .389/ .461, .820 OPS - Napoli is 32, his contract runs through next season. Scheduled to make $16 mill next season. He's been pretty consistent along those slash lines and has given teams around 25 HR a year for the last few. Doesn't help the OF situation, but a good bat and avail for 1B and DH.

Adam Dunn (1B) Chi Sox - .224/ .361/ .437 - Dunn is 34, and in the final year of his contract. He's Making $15 million this season. As we all know Dunn is the anti-Royal. He walks a ton, hits the ball hard (14 HR this season), and strikes out a lot. He's also better at 1B than people give him credit for. This would be a true rental, but there may be a chance to retain depending on his price tag and the Royals chances for future success. The White Sox aren't that bad, but Dunn really wouldn't be in a long-term option.

Justin Morneau (1B) Rockies - .214/ .345/ .512 - Morneau is 33 and is having a resurgent year, though he's risky as a lot of it prob has to do with being in Colorado. He's also signed through 2016, but with a cheaper price tag of $6.75 million (2015), $9 million (2016, mutual option) Morneau has 13 HR at the break, and has always been able to walk a decent amount. It's hard for me to believe though, that he could translate his Coors Field success to the K.

Obviously there are others, and a guy who could play OF might be a better option.

What is the OF situation?  I mean cain, gordon, dyson seem like a good set up, then we have a few serviceable bench guys.  A decent backup at 1st seems like it would make sense.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #14299 on: July 16, 2014, 09:47:22 AM »
Guys, let's make a list of aging, yet still productive, bats on crappy teams. .800 OPS types are the minimum.

I'll start with a couple: slash stats are for the first half of this season.

Mike Napoli (1B) Boston - .266/ .389/ .461, .820 OPS - Napoli is 32, his contract runs through next season. Scheduled to make $16 mill next season. He's been pretty consistent along those slash lines and has given teams around 25 HR a year for the last few. Doesn't help the OF situation, but a good bat and avail for 1B and DH.

Adam Dunn (1B) Chi Sox - .224/ .361/ .437 - Dunn is 34, and in the final year of his contract. He's Making $15 million this season. As we all know Dunn is the anti-Royal. He walks a ton, hits the ball hard (14 HR this season), and strikes out a lot. He's also better at 1B than people give him credit for. This would be a true rental, but there may be a chance to retain depending on his price tag and the Royals chances for future success. The White Sox aren't that bad, but Dunn really wouldn't be in a long-term option.

Justin Morneau (1B) Rockies - .214/ .345/ .512 - Morneau is 33 and is having a resurgent year, though he's risky as a lot of it prob has to do with being in Colorado. He's also signed through 2016, but with a cheaper price tag of $6.75 million (2015), $9 million (2016, mutual option) Morneau has 13 HR at the break, and has always been able to walk a decent amount. It's hard for me to believe though, that he could translate his Coors Field success to the K.

Obviously there are others, and a guy who could play OF might be a better option.

What is the OF situation?  I mean cain, gordon, dyson seem like a good set up, then we have a few serviceable bench guys.  A decent backup at 1st seems like it would make sense.

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