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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2010, 12:49:31 PM »
Mo needs to go. 

Why?  He put together some awesome DL's

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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2010, 12:50:58 PM »
I don't know if this has anything relevant to the conversation - but it was at least a comment from Leavitt on pending job situations.

http://www.footballscoop.com/news/2871-jim-leavitt-gary-patterson-mike-leach-talk-about-jobs
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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2010, 12:56:28 PM »
No way OB would do this or let this get out before the end of the year.  Not gonna happen.
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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2010, 12:59:01 PM »
No way OB would do this or let this get out before the end of the year.  Not gonna happen.

If he made a move, it would be shortly after the UNT game.  No one said Snyder let this info get out.  It's pretty damn near impossible for info like this to not leak out these days.  Maybe contact has been made but no official statement will be made until next week.  At least I really hope that is the case.

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2010, 01:00:17 PM »
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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2010, 01:05:56 PM »
Mo needs to go. 

Why?  He put together some awesome DL's

Over a decade ago.

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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2010, 01:11:43 PM »
Mo needs to go. 

Why?  He put together some awesome DL's

Over a decade ago.

What are you saying?  What he did pre-2003 is irrelevant?

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2010, 01:23:00 PM »
Mo needs to go. 

Why?  He put together some awesome DL's

Over a decade ago.

What are you saying?  What he did pre-2003 is irrelevant?

Where those even his DLs?  If they were, he did a hell of a job.  Our DLs used to be amazing.

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« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2010, 01:23:53 PM »
Mo needs to go. 

Why?  He put together some awesome DL's

Over a decade ago.

What are you saying?  What he did pre-2003 is irrelevant?

Where those even his DLs?  If they were, he did a hell of a job.  Our DLs used to be amazing.

Of course they were his DL's.  We should not fire Mo. 

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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2010, 01:24:48 PM »
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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2010, 01:28:54 PM »
Mo needs to go. 

Why?  He put together some awesome DL's

Over a decade ago.

What are you saying?  What he did pre-2003 is irrelevant?

Where those even his DLs?  If they were, he did a hell of a job.  Our DLs used to be amazing.

Of course they were his DL's.  We should not fire Mo. 

27 yrs of coaching only interior defensive linemen.  That's weird.  And that's not including his time at UTEP.

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2010, 01:39:04 PM »
i think Leavitt as DC for Kansas State Men's Football team would be fantastic.  as HCIW ... wouldn't mind I guess.  at least we'd be able to see if his time at DC would produce any kind of recruiting bump.

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2010, 02:19:24 PM »
getting crazy mad and screaming the balls off of his players works for Frank Martin right? Might as well give him a few years :drool:

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2010, 02:43:58 PM »
people that don't want leavitt are the people who think we have a chance at Patterson or BV.

AND I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE!

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2010, 03:49:04 PM »
As long as he's not HCIW I think its good news for the short term future of the program.

i agree, but you know leavitt is thinking "yahtzee" regardless of title if he does end up coming here. i mean, the defense couldn't really be any worse, so provided he improves it over a couple of years and acts crazy on the sideline, he'll endear himself to 90% of people to the point that they'll be asking for him to be the next coach. i mean crap...people wanted phil bennett for a while as head coach after he left. is the short term gain of a better defense worth the long term probability that he would end up as the next head coach?
:frown:  I am trying to be positive here....but yeah you're probably right. 

It all depends on how long Snyder stays.

I'll probably be in the minority on this board, but the longer Snyder stays (assuming he surrounds himself with decent coaches) is not a bad thing.  Having more than two HCs in the span of four or five years can be hell on a roster, especially one that has a scholarship count down in the lower 70's.  Even if all Snyder's able to do is win seven games a year and go to four lower tiered bowls in the next five years or so, that's probably where we need to go given that we've spent the majority of this decade being a subpar football program.

The hiring of Leavitt does a few things.  One, it immediately brings some level of credibility to the defense.  Two, it brings a competent former head coach on board to assist Snyder in the day-to-day operations in the actual 'coaching' areas Sean can't help with.  You have a guy that legitimately knows what he's doing helping out.  Even if it's not much, there's something to be said for bringing a guy on board with nearly a hundred career wins as a head coach and a nearly 60% winning percentage.  In the event your 70 year old coach steps down unexpectedly with health issues, you'd be hard pressed to find many programs out there with a guy as decorated as Jim Leavitt sitting there in the bullpen as an interim head coach.  Finally, Leavitt has a lot of connections in Florida from his years of recruiting, and he's a known quantity.  Even with "the situation", which is still kind of ambiguous, he has ties to all kinds of local high schools, and USF was known for recruiting JUCOs as well, so he's got ties there too.  He'd most likely be an adequate recruiter or at least be able to open doors if we were to hire one.

Snyder as a figurehead HC can go on for several years.  At least another four while Tate is here assuming he doesn't have to do as much.  And with Leavitt here, the odds of that happening are probably pretty good.

In five years, there will be tens of millions of dollars of improvements to the football stadium, the conference situation will most likely be stabilized one way or another, and the roster will probably be at least a little more balanced.  If Snyder steps down at that time, we'd be a much more attractive option than we are now, which would in turn give us a better chance of hiring a better coach.  Leavitt, in the short term, possibly makes that a reality.  We just have to hope that at that time our AD (whoever it is) realizes our fan base primarily consists of mouth-breathing idiots and ignores their clamoring for one of "Snyder's guys".

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2010, 04:00:04 PM »
Snyder as a figurehead HC can go on for several years.  At least another four while Tate is here assuming he doesn't have to do as much.  And with Leavitt here, the odds of that happening are probably pretty good.

Snyder will never be a figurehead coach.  You are also assuming that recruiting will improve or remain stable over the next 4 years.  A decline in recruiting will take place before too long, even if Leavitt is added to the band of losers Snyder has decided to surround himself with.

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2010, 04:14:13 PM »
Snyder as a figurehead HC can go on for several years.  At least another four while Tate is here assuming he doesn't have to do as much.  And with Leavitt here, the odds of that happening are probably pretty good.

Snyder will never be a figurehead coach.  You are also assuming that recruiting will improve or remain stable over the next 4 years.  A decline in recruiting will take place before too long, even if Leavitt is added to the band of losers Snyder has decided to surround himself with.


What are you basing this off of? 

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« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2010, 04:17:19 PM »
Snyder as a figurehead HC can go on for several years.  At least another four while Tate is here assuming he doesn't have to do as much.  And with Leavitt here, the odds of that happening are probably pretty good.

Snyder will never be a figurehead coach.  You are also assuming that recruiting will improve or remain stable over the next 4 years. A decline in recruiting will take place before too long, even if Leavitt is added to the band of losers Snyder has decided to surround himself with.


What are you basing this off of? 

Snyder's age.  The older he gets, the harder it will be to recruit.

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2010, 04:17:48 PM »
Mo needs to go. 

Why?  He put together some awesome DL's

Over a decade ago.

What are you saying?  What he did pre-2003 is irrelevant?

It gets more irrelevant by the year, yes. It isn't like our DL has just been average in recent years. It's been complete dogshit.

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2010, 04:29:38 PM »
As long as he's not HCIW I think its good news for the short term future of the program.

i agree, but you know leavitt is thinking "yahtzee" regardless of title if he does end up coming here. i mean, the defense couldn't really be any worse, so provided he improves it over a couple of years and acts crazy on the sideline, he'll endear himself to 90% of people to the point that they'll be asking for him to be the next coach. i mean crap...people wanted phil bennett for a while as head coach after he left. is the short term gain of a better defense worth the long term probability that he would end up as the next head coach?
:frown:  I am trying to be positive here....but yeah you're probably right. 

It all depends on how long Snyder stays.

I'll probably be in the minority on this board, but the longer Snyder stays (assuming he surrounds himself with decent coaches) is not a bad thing.  Having more than two HCs in the span of four or five years can be hell on a roster, especially one that has a scholarship count down in the lower 70's.  Even if all Snyder's able to do is win seven games a year and go to four lower tiered bowls in the next five years or so, that's probably where we need to go given that we've spent the majority of this decade being a subpar football program.

The hiring of Leavitt does a few things.  One, it immediately brings some level of credibility to the defense.  Two, it brings a competent former head coach on board to assist Snyder in the day-to-day operations in the actual 'coaching' areas Sean can't help with.  You have a guy that legitimately knows what he's doing helping out.  Even if it's not much, there's something to be said for bringing a guy on board with nearly a hundred career wins as a head coach and a nearly 60% winning percentage.  In the event your 70 year old coach steps down unexpectedly with health issues, you'd be hard pressed to find many programs out there with a guy as decorated as Jim Leavitt sitting there in the bullpen as an interim head coach.  Finally, Leavitt has a lot of connections in Florida from his years of recruiting, and he's a known quantity.  Even with "the situation", which is still kind of ambiguous, he has ties to all kinds of local high schools, and USF was known for recruiting JUCOs as well, so he's got ties there too.  He'd most likely be an adequate recruiter or at least be able to open doors if we were to hire one.

Snyder as a figurehead HC can go on for several years.  At least another four while Tate is here assuming he doesn't have to do as much.  And with Leavitt here, the odds of that happening are probably pretty good.

In five years, there will be tens of millions of dollars of improvements to the football stadium, the conference situation will most likely be stabilized one way or another, and the roster will probably be at least a little more balanced.  If Snyder steps down at that time, we'd be a much more attractive option than we are now, which would in turn give us a better chance of hiring a better coach.  Leavitt, in the short term, possibly makes that a reality.  We just have to hope that at that time our AD (whoever it is) realizes our fan base primarily consists of mouth-breathing idiots and ignores their clamoring for one of "Snyder's guys".


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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2010, 05:22:13 PM »
I really, really want Leavitt to be the next head coach at KSU.  But you people and everyone at GPC are out of your rough ridin' minds if you think he's going to come back here and work as an assistant for Snyder.  None of you understand what former assistants think of Snyder.

I present Exhibit #1:

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There's an epilogue to Stoops's association with Kansas State. Stoops says Snyder was angry that Stoops got not only his brother Mike but also defensive assistants Mark Mangino and Brent Venables to join him at Oklahoma, essentially cleaning out the K-State defensive staff (and their hard-won recruiting contacts). Neither Bob nor Mike has talked to Snyder since. "I don't know if anybody ever leaves Coach Snyder on good terms," says Mike. "He simply doesn't accept that you would leave. But then again, there's no having a personal relationship with him even when you're there."

Bob isn't looking back. "The fact is I gave everything I had to Kansas State when I was there," he says. "Now I'm obligated to do the same thing for Oklahoma. Period."



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1019450/3/index.htm#ixzz163Rvi9Ni
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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2010, 05:29:52 PM »
I really, really want Leavitt to be the next head coach at KSU.  But you people and everyone at GPC are out of your effing minds if you think he's going to come back here and work as an assistant for Snyder.  None of you understand what former assistants think of Snyder.

I present Exhibit #1:

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There's an epilogue to Stoops's association with Kansas State. Stoops says Snyder was angry that Stoops got not only his brother Mike but also defensive assistants Mark Mangino and Brent Venables to join him at Oklahoma, essentially cleaning out the K-State defensive staff (and their hard-won recruiting contacts). Neither Bob nor Mike has talked to Snyder since. "I don't know if anybody ever leaves Coach Snyder on good terms," says Mike. "He simply doesn't accept that you would leave. But then again, there's no having a personal relationship with him even when you're there."

Bob isn't looking back. "The fact is I gave everything I had to Kansas State when I was there," he says. "Now I'm obligated to do the same thing for Oklahoma. Period."



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1019450/3/index.htm#ixzz163Rvi9Ni



damn. those were the days. seriously, i miss that sh*t.

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Re: Every Single Poster On GPC Guarantees Leavitt Has Been Hired As Next DC
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2010, 05:30:05 PM »
I really, really want Leavitt to be the next head coach at KSU.  But you people and everyone at GPC are out of your rough ridin' minds if you think he's going to come back here and work as an assistant for Snyder.  None of you understand what former assistants think of Snyder.

I present Exhibit #1:

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There's an epilogue to Stoops's association with Kansas State. Stoops says Snyder was angry that Stoops got not only his brother Mike but also defensive assistants Mark Mangino and Brent Venables to join him at Oklahoma, essentially cleaning out the K-State defensive staff (and their hard-won recruiting contacts). Neither Bob nor Mike has talked to Snyder since. "I don't know if anybody ever leaves Coach Snyder on good terms," says Mike. "He simply doesn't accept that you would leave. But then again, there's no having a personal relationship with him even when you're there."

Bob isn't looking back. "The fact is I gave everything I had to Kansas State when I was there," he says. "Now I'm obligated to do the same thing for Oklahoma. Period."



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1019450/3/index.htm#ixzz163Rvi9Ni


That article is ten years old bro.  

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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2010, 05:32:48 PM »
And for everyone that thinks Snyder is God, you need to be reminded what happened after all those guys left.  KSU had a good year in 2000 where they only lost two games, both to Bob.  And KSU had a good year in 2003 when they lost a few games that they shouldn't have, but had the phenomenal game against OU in the Big XII Championship.

That's about it.

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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2010, 05:33:55 PM »

That article is ten years old bro.  

You think something happened in the last 10 years that changed their mind?