(G)Rumblings ...

[kso_FAN]

Don't forget that BCS thingy KK.

[Bookcat]

just pull a Hoosiers and only play four Frank.


The sumbitch is determined to have his players "do it the right way".

[nicname]

Don't forget that BCS thingy KK.

I didn't mention that, but I thought about it.  There is definitely real in-season value to being ranked highly in football.

[AzCat]

If Curt's last name was Gonzalez this wouldn't be happening. 

So true.  Free Curtis!  (Someone get  the link ASAP).   

[EMAWzified]

There's a lot of value being in the top 5 for the first few weeks of the season.  Probably more valuable than Elite 8 vs. Sweet 16 or whatever this dumbcac lesson gets us.

Some value, but ask Texas how much. Single most moronic thing ever posted.

[jtksu]

I could really give a eff less what our ranking is right now.  It's cool to brag about I guess but at long as we get at least a 2 seed in March I'll be cool with that.

[AlwaysEMAW]

I am going to go absolutely bonkers if we happen to make it to number 1 this year. Rankings are really great for the fan base. You think the students show up like they did on Friday if we're not ranked or even in the 20s?

[ednksu]

we still have to protect our ranking early in the season.  Number 1 seeds don't lose games like this.  November can hurt you a crap ton in feb/march when seeds are the most important thing. 


Frank needs to see that one will effect the other.  Resume isn't just conference season.

[MakeItRain]

My issue with this is that it is stale.  It started with Huggy, here is a list of players that we know of that were suspended or benches because they weren't buying in.

Cartier Martin
Bill Walker
Jacob Pullen
Luis Colon
Jamar Samuels
Curtis Kelly

Seriously it is time for a schitck.  Either he has the most out of control players in the country or he's over the top dramatic.

[jtksu]

With the schedule we have, I'm going to assume that Frank is aware that the non-con is important.

[michigancat]

The only in season value in being ranked high in the preseason or early portion of the season is that a few losses here and there don't hurt your seeding as much as a loss to a team that is ranked lower. 

Being ranked in the preseason is also nice because it shows that a team has earned respect, and a reputation, and a coach can tell a recruit "you see, we've been Sweet 16 two years in a row, and now we're top 5 heading into this season, but we could really use a man like you to help get us into the final four..blah blah blah."  It also earns you much needed publicity.

Other than that there is little value in being ranked highly in the preseason.  Sure, you might say that #1 seeds are much of the time highly ranked in preseason polls, but that is because they are great basketball teams, not because of any preseason ranking.

In 2009 the preseason top ten included was 1. KU, 2. Mich. St., 3. Texas, 4. UK, 5. Nova, 6. UNC, 7. Purdue, 8. WVU, 9. Duke, 10. Tenn and Butler was #11.  Can someone please tell me the valuable role, other than what I described earlier, that being ranked highly in the preseason played for these teams?  Because, I don't see it.

Media coverage/exposure.  Pretty much all I think it is worth.  Different debate about how valuable that is, but making espn highlights/national talking points is definitely top 5 territory, particularly when we are going up against the zags/duke.

Yep.  It's all media exposure.  Frank himself has commented on the value of getting in the top 25 because it gets us on SportsCenter every night.  When you're a top 5 team, you're discussed by every talking head at every freaking halftime of every ESPN game.  You're kidding yourself if you think there's no value in that.  KIDDING YOURSELF.

Also, I think I'm being pretty generous by saying this might get us an extra win in the postseason.  Remember when Jake had the fantastic KU game but got sat for most of @MU?  Well, the loss to MU put us firmly on the bubble, and in March, Jake got brutally Travoned.  "Frank being Frank" is just another way of saying "stupid being stupid".

[kitten_mittons]

This is probably less about CK and more about other people.  Kind of surprised about the reactions here.  Frank has done this every year.  If you want to enjoy his adorable rants on the court, you have to live with this.  They go together.

He's never done it with a player this good for a game this big.

He still hasn't.

[steve dave]

This is probably less about CK and more about other people.  Kind of surprised about the reactions here.  Frank has done this every year.  If you want to enjoy his adorable rants on the court, you have to live with this.  They go together.

He's never done it with a player this good for a game this big.

He still hasn't.

Yeah, this is my hope

[michigancat]

Thanks for clarifying kitton_mittons.

[kitten_mittons]

Thanks for clarifying kitton_mittons.

You spelled Kitten wrong.  It's okay.  It's kind of early on a Monday.

But we can both agree that we love the KSU Cats!!!

Eat-em-up!

[Dr Rick Daris]

jesus. guess we need to hang a top 3 banner or something. who's going to make it? rustycat?

[michigancat]

jesus. guess we need to hang a top 3 banner or something. who's going to make it? rustycat?

We could paint the walls.

[Dr Rick Daris]

jesus. guess we need to hang a top 3 banner or something. who's going to make it? rustycat?

We could paint the walls.

sounds great. i'll get the paint and next time you're in town we can head over and paint the place up and then reminisce over that one time that the cats were in the top five for part of the year and maybe watch old espn sportscenter top 5 highlights together. sounds like a hoot. national media coverage...yayyyee!


 

[kso_FAN]

Yep.  It's all media exposure.  Frank himself has commented on the value of getting in the top 25 because it gets us on SportsCenter every night.  When you're a top 5 team, you're discussed by every talking head at every freaking halftime of every ESPN game.  You're kidding yourself if you think there's no value in that.  KIDDING YOURSELF.

Also, I think I'm being pretty generous by saying this might get us an extra win in the postseason.  Remember when Jake had the fantastic KU game but got sat for most of @MU?  Well, the loss to MU put us firmly on the bubble, and in March, Jake got brutally Travoned.  "Frank being Frank" is just another way of saying "stupid being stupid".

I don't disagree with what you said, but do you think Frank will ever change?  I don't.

[michigancat]

I don't disagree with what you said, but do you think Frank will ever change?  I don't.

He's changed his recruiting style. 

[kso_FAN]

I don't disagree with what you said, but do you think Frank will ever change?  I don't.

He's changed his recruiting style. 

Yeah, but I think he changed that b/c he wants to be less Frank being Frank. 

But when it comes to handling players, when he needs to send a "buy in or quit" message, he's going to send it.  Probably his biggest weakness, but I don't expect him to change.  If it doesn't work, he'll be finding another job (eventually) I guess.

[sonofdaxjones]

Oh well, hopefully we can get enough "right fitters" to limp our way into the NCAA tourney every now and again . . . important to have a couple of guys that Frank can play head games with as well.

The "Whatever Frank does or says is fine by me" crowd is having to dig deep into the playbook right now . . . dig real, real deep.

Deity level in 3 years . . . only at K-State.

[AlwaysEMAW]

Guys, we went to the Elite Eight last year and he  hasn't lost a game yet this year.

At LEAST do the guy a favor by waiting to see what happens with VT before you run him into the ground.

[kcnut]

marfan strikes again  

Would do marfan chick.  

Was thinking the same thing.
I would do things to her that may be illegal in some countries

[kso_FAN]

Guys, we went to the Elite Eight last year and he  hasn't lost a game yet this year.

At LEAST do the guy a favor by waiting to see what happens with VT before you run him into the ground.

While I tend to agree, message boards wouldn't be any fun if all the fans did that.