How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?

[Cire]

kc bbq all depends on what you want.  if you want sammies and sauce OKJ, stand alone meat with a little sauce, Jack stack probably.  I don't care for gates, I never go to bryants because Smokin Joes is closer and very good, similar style.

[8manpick]

I haven't bothered with Bryant's because I've never met anyone who says its the best.

Actually, yes, we have met.

[pissclams]

Joes isn't even the best BBQ in KC, that'd be Jack Stack. I'm also going to take a pretty educated guess that Bourdain hasn't visited as many rib joints as I have. There are at least three places in Wichita that are better than anything in KC, I haven't bothered with Bryant's because I've never met anyone who says its the best. All that vinegar in Gates' sauce is horrawful, its like that Memphis crap, just gross.

OKC has the best BBQ IMO. If you want to go deep into the hood you can find the two best places in the world. One of them is on MLK Ave

Wichita post.

agreed

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Joes isn't even the best BBQ in KC, that'd be Jack Stack. I'm also going to take a pretty educated guess that Bourdain hasn't visited as many rib joints as I have. There are at least three places in Wichita that are better than anything in KC, I haven't bothered with Bryant's because I've never met anyone who says its the best. All that vinegar in Gates' sauce is horrawful, its like that Memphis crap, just gross.

OKC has the best BBQ IMO. If you want to go deep into the hood you can find the two best places in the world. One of them is on MLK Ave

Wichita post.

agreed

Nothing in Wichita is "the best" of something

[MakeItRain]

OKC has the best BBQ IMO.

Wichita post.

agreed

[pissclams]

OKC has the best BBQ IMO.

Wichita post.

agreed

what are the chances that the guy from wichita thinks that wichita has the best bbq in the world. 

[Dr Rick Daris]

OKC has the best BBQ IMO.

Wichita post.

agreed

you said that wichita has at least three places that do bbq better than any place in kc and then listed okc as having the best bbq in the world. it was a pretty wichitaey post.

[MakeItRain]

what are the chances that the guy from wichita thinks that wichita has the best bbq in the world.

OKC has the best BBQ IMO.

also I'm in no way shape or form from Wichita. I lived in New England longer than I lived in Wichita

[MakeItRain]

OKC has the best BBQ IMO.

Wichita post.

agreed

you said that wichita has at least three places that do bbq better than any place in kc and then listed okc as having the best bbq in the world. it was a pretty wichitaey post.

Other than skepticism, any of you prepared to offer a first hand rebuttal?

[puniraptor]

If wichita bbq were so increds I probably would have gone there by now (havent). How's that for first hand?

[pissclams]

what are the chances that the guy from wichita thinks that wichita has the best bbq in the world.

OKC has the best BBQ IMO.

also I'm in no way shape or form from Wichita. I lived in New England longer than I lived in Wichita

i missed the okc part, tired from last night's gaga concert.  point is that no one other than you and you think that okc/wichita has better bbq than kansas city.  and that's ok because i'm not going to tell you what you like any more than you telling me what i like.

no reason to argue something as subjective as one's taste

[Emo EMAW]

Guys, look at the guy from New England talk about BBQ! 

"Hello there, can I get some clam chowder with my burnt ends?  No?  Wicked weak!"

[GoodForAnother]

Joes isn't even the best BBQ in KC, that'd be Jack Stack. I'm also going to take a pretty educated guess that Bourdain hasn't visited as many rib joints as I have. There are at least three places in Wichita that are better than anything in KC, I haven't bothered with Bryant's because I've never met anyone who says its the best. All that vinegar in Gates' sauce is horrawful, its like that Memphis crap, just gross.

OKC has the best BBQ IMO. If you want to go deep into the hood you can find the two best places in the world. One of them is on MLK Ave

Wichita post.

agreed

Nothing in Wichita is "the best" of something

confirmed.  MIR trying too hard to troll here.  IMO!

[Johnny Wichita]

MIR is correct. 

[GoodForAnother]

probably the most interesting thing about wichitans is how hard they will try and convince themselves that wichita is just as good as kansas city

pro-tip: it isn't

[Belvis Noland]

Other than skepticism, any of you prepared to offer a first hand rebuttal?

I don't have a rebuttal.  Never had BBQ in either location.  Further, never heard anybody who knows anything about BBQ mention Wichita or OKC as having good BBQ.  On the other hand, any time I've every heard a BBQ snob or foodie TV personality talk about BBQ (Collichio, Bobby Flay, Gail Simmons, etc.), they mention either KC or Memphis.  I've also never heard of any world renowned BBQ competitions in Wichita or OKC, as opposed to KC and Memphis. 

I dunno.  I eat BBQ about 5-10 times a year in KC.  Not an expert.  I just like it a lot.  And I hear other people they like it a lot.  And that's good enough for me to conclude that it's better than Wichita and OKC.  I try not to travel to those locations if I can help it.  Certainly not eating the bbq there when I'm forced to go. 

BUT ANYWAY, this should be split off into its own thread. 

[ChiComCat]

Next time I am in Wichita (if I ever am back in Wichita), I will join MIR for BBQ and see if I can refute his claims.

[MakeItRain]

probably the most interesting thing about wichitans is how hard they will try and convince themselves that wichita is just as good as kansas city

pro-tip: it isn't

Are you referring to me? One of us is from the Wichita area, pro-tip: you, not me.

Next time I am in Wichita (if I ever am back in Wichita), I will join MIR for BBQ and see if I can refute his claims.

No longer a Wichita pak'r

[puniraptor]

whats the best bbq in the greater Ames metropolitan area?

[ChiComCat]

probably the most interesting thing about wichitans is how hard they will try and convince themselves that wichita is just as good as kansas city

pro-tip: it isn't

Are you referring to me? One of us is from the Wichita area, pro-tip: you, not me.

Next time I am in Wichita (if I ever am back in Wichita), I will join MIR for BBQ and see if I can refute his claims.

No longer a Wichita pak'r

I forgot.  I don't know where you lived in New England, but you seem to consistently move to worse places.

[pissclams]

definitely would need to know where in NE he lived before making that claim.  wichita is undoubtedly a step up from a lot of places in the northeast



<---nor'easter

[MakeItRain]

Other than skepticism, any of you prepared to offer a first hand rebuttal?

I don't have a rebuttal.  Never had BBQ in either location.  Further, never heard anybody who knows anything about BBQ mention Wichita or OKC as having good BBQ.  On the other hand, any time I've every heard a BBQ snob or foodie TV personality talk about BBQ (Collichio, Bobby Flay, Gail Simmons, etc.), they mention either KC or Memphis.  I've also never heard of any world renowned BBQ competitions in Wichita or OKC, as opposed to KC and Memphis. 

I dunno.  I eat BBQ about 5-10 times a year in KC.  Not an expert.  I just like it a lot.  And I hear other people they like it a lot.  And that's good enough for me to conclude that it's better than Wichita and OKC.  I try not to travel to those locations if I can help it.  Certainly not eating the bbq there when I'm forced to go. 

BUT ANYWAY, this should be split off into its own thread.

You're definitely smart enough to know that something not considered an option can't be eliminated as the best. When these foodies say KC is the best BBQ they are comparing it to other tourist traps in Texas, Memphis, and North Carolina. Compared to these places I would agree that Joes and Jack Stack are much better. I hate the mustard used in Carolina bbq, hate the Memphis vinegar crap, and don't like Texas' insistence on using beef ribs. BTW in Wichita and KC they prepare ribs KC style. 

Unless Flay has been to all of these off the beaten path places everywhere, his opinion is what it is. Now this is not to say that there isn't some amazing BBQ places in KC that may be out of the way, but other than Jack Stack the four most frequently mentioned are wildly overrated and IMO not close to the best in the country.

[MakeItRain]

whats the best bbq in the greater Ames metropolitan area?

Fiorella Jack Stack behind Union Station

definitely would need to know where in NE he lived before making that claim.  wichita is undoubtedly a step up from a lot of places in the northeast



<---nor'easter

Clam's is definitely right, there is a lot of horrible places in New England, thankfully I lived in none of those places. I lived in Boston and in rural Maine. I've been lucky enough to legitimately like every place I've lived as an adult, and I've lived in a lot of places as an adult. I liked Wichita and I like the DSM area.  One thing you really appreciate about Wichita as opposed to New England and Iowa is winter weather. Also Wichita food options are underrated by dumbasses who think hating on Wichita is edgy. I mean were talking GoddardCat type humor folks.

[_33]

When your opinion goes against the vast majority of other people's opinions there is a decent chance your opinion is wrong and stupid.

[Gooch]

whats the best bbq in the greater Ames metropolitan area?

Not that shithole Old Main