CHIEFS

[j-dub]

he was a chief. his peak years were in kc. he was an average player in denver.

You were a Denver fan back then, right? As a Denver fan then, and now, I consider him a Bronco. I don't know. I really don't know how to compare his time with both ball teams. I think he was more important to the Chiefs' defense than he was Denver's. Is that how one should make their choice?

yeah. quick backstory: j-dub's mom decorated little j-dub's room in blue and orange without considering the possibility that it could backfire. the first nfl game i ever saw/remember seeing was in oct. of '88, broncos vs. 9er's. broncos were blue and orange  9er's were woof. so little j-dub rooted for his favorite colors. he started looking for his favorite colors every week and pretty soon he recognized that john elway is the greatest football player the world has ever seen. so from that point on, i was a diehard elway/bronco (but really elway, as i would discover in the wake of his retirement) fan in the midst of chiefs fans as far as the eye could see.

so i grew up hating neil smith. absolutely hating his stupid ugly bandaid on his nose wearing home run swing swinging dorky dorkstore spindly girl legged sack machine. and i was beyond psyched when he came to denver. beyond. psyched.

and he was as meh as it gets. he wasn't the same player, or maybe it was because he didn't have derrick on the other side. although, alfred williams had a hell of a couple years when neil was in denver.. so, i think neil had just peaked in kc and was clearly on the downside of his career.

either way. he was a chief. the band aid. the swing. derrick and him being bff. when i think of neil, i think of him sacking john elway. not hugging him as john walked off the field victorious for the very last time 

I think I'm too young to remember him has a Chief. My first memories of football are the 97 and 98 seasons. I remember how much it pissed my dad off that I loved the Broncos, but they were so fun to watch for a kid that didn't understand the game yet.

That's why I was asking for your guys' opinions. I don't remember him as a Chief. I just remember him as a Bronco. To be fair, J-Dub I think you are underselling him in Denver. That defense was good, but the stars were the linebackers and the secondary, not the d line.

the defense was okay. one of the weaker super bowl winning defenses in the 90's. they were really susceptible to getting lit up through the air. the offense was special and was the reason those teams won super bowls.

[Cartierfor3]

@J-Dub: Marcus Allen: Chief or Raider. It cannot be both.

It's not j-dub's decision, it's marcus's.

I did love how he hated the Raiders. Was so Chiefseo/Cameroheady.

[Cartierfor3]

he was a chief. his peak years were in kc. he was an average player in denver.

You were a Denver fan back then, right? As a Denver fan then, and now, I consider him a Bronco. I don't know. I really don't know how to compare his time with both ball teams. I think he was more important to the Chiefs' defense than he was Denver's. Is that how one should make their choice?

yeah. quick backstory: j-dub's mom decorated little j-dub's room in blue and orange without considering the possibility that it could backfire. the first nfl game i ever saw/remember seeing was in oct. of '88, broncos vs. 9er's. broncos were blue and orange  9er's were woof. so little j-dub rooted for his favorite colors. he started looking for his favorite colors every week and pretty soon he recognized that john elway is the greatest football player the world has ever seen. so from that point on, i was a diehard elway/bronco (but really elway, as i would discover in the wake of his retirement) fan in the midst of chiefs fans as far as the eye could see.

so i grew up hating neil smith. absolutely hating his stupid ugly bandaid on his nose wearing home run swing swinging dorky dorkstore spindly girl legged sack machine. and i was beyond psyched when he came to denver. beyond. psyched.

and he was as meh as it gets. he wasn't the same player, or maybe it was because he didn't have derrick on the other side. although, alfred williams had a hell of a couple years when neil was in denver.. so, i think neil had just peaked in kc and was clearly on the downside of his career.

either way. he was a chief. the band aid. the swing. derrick and him being bff. when i think of neil, i think of him sacking john elway. not hugging him as john walked off the field victorious for the very last time 

I think I'm too young to remember him has a Chief. My first memories of football are the 97 and 98 seasons. I remember how much it pissed my dad off that I loved the Broncos, but they were so fun to watch for a kid that didn't understand the game yet.

That's why I was asking for your guys' opinions. I don't remember him as a Chief. I just remember him as a Bronco. To be fair, J-Dub I think you are underselling him in Denver. That defense was good, but the stars were the linebackers and the secondary, not the d line.

the defense was okay. one of the weaker super bowl winning defenses in the 90's. they were really susceptible to getting lit up through the air. the offense was special and was the reason those teams won super bowls.

Every player on those teams was complete dog crap besides Elway. Most of the others wouldn't have last 2 days in Conference USA without John.

[j-dub]

@J-Dub: Marcus Allen: Chief or Raider. It cannot be both.

raider.

i don't care if he may have made an emotionally loaded statement back in the day because of al davis and their past drama. he was a raider.

super bowl mvp and league mvp as a raider. just shy of 13,000 total yards and 97 touchdowns as a raider. it's not close. he's a raider.

[Asteriskhead]

It's just an interesting case. Players move teams a lot, but Neil is probably the only player to play the majority of his career in one place and then win back to back super bowls with another. I'm pretty sure he lives in the KC area, so I'm sure he considers himself a Chief. However, I think he would have to consider the back to back Superbowls the highlight of his career. What a weird predicament.

[Cartierfor3]

I like this topic Metalhead. What team do you associate the following players with:

Deon Sanders

Drew Bledsoe

Clinton Portis

Marshall Faulk

Reggie White

Andre Rison

Curtis Martin

Darren Sproles

Ricky Waters

Ken Norton Jr.

Jeff Hostetler

[Institutional Control]

Deon Sanders - Falcons

Drew Bledsoe - Patriots

Clinton Portis - Redskins

Marshall Faulk - Rams

Reggie White - Packers

Andre Rison - Falcons

Curtis Martin - Jets

Darren Sproles - Saints

Ricky Waters - Eagles

Ken Norton Jr.- 49ers

Jeff Hostetler - Raiders

[420seriouscat69]

I like this topic Metalhead. What team do you associate the following players with:

Deon Sanders: Cowboys

Drew Bledsoe: Patriots

Clinton Portis: Broncos

Marshall Faulk: Rams

Reggie White: Green Bay

Andre Rison: Falcons

Curtis Martin: Jets

Darren Sproles: Too soon. Chargers probably.

Ricky Waters: 49ers

Ken Norton Jr.: 49ers

Jeff Hostetler: Raiders

[j-dub]

Deon Sanders - Falcon

Drew Bledsoe - Patriot

Clinton Portis - Bronco

Marshall Faulk - Ram

Reggie White - Eagle

Andre Rison - Falcon

Curtis Martin - Patriot

Darren Sproles - Saint

Ricky Waters - 49'er

Ken Norton Jr. - 49'er

Jeff Hostetler - Giant

[mocat]

Deon Sanders - cowboy

Drew Bledsoe - patriot

Clinton Portis - bronco

Marshall Faulk - ram

Reggie White - packer

Andre Rison - falcon

Curtis Martin - jet

Darren Sproles - he still plays

Ricky Waters - seahawk

Ken Norton Jr. - cowboy?

Jeff Hostetler - raider (also complete goober. i mean look at this guy  )

[slimz]

Deon Sanders  -- Cincinnati Reds

Drew Bledsoe -- Patriots

Clinton Portis -- Redskins

Marshall Faulk -- San Diego State

Reggie White -- God

Andre Rison -- Chiefs

Curtis Martin -- J-E-T-S

Darren Sproles -- KSU Quatz

Ricky Waters -- Eagles

Ken Norton Jr. -- 49ers

Jeff Hostetler -- Colts

[Rage Against the McKee]

I like this topic Metalhead. What team do you associate the following players with:

Deon Sanders - 49er

Drew Bledsoe - Patriot

Clinton Portis - Redskin

Marshall Faulk - Ram

Reggie White - Packer

Andre Rison - Falcon

Curtis Martin - Jet

Darren Sproles - Charger

Ricky Waters - journeyman

Ken Norton Jr. - 49er

Jeff Hostetler - Raider

[Asteriskhead]

I like this topic Metalhead. What team do you associate the following players with:

Deon Sanders - Cowboys, too young to remember him with the Falcons

Drew Bledsoe- Patriots

Clinton Portis- Broncos

Marshall Faulk- Rams

Reggie White- Packers

Andre Rison- Chiefs

Curtis Martin- Jets

Darren Sproles- Saints

Ricky Waters- (Watters?) I don't really remember him. Seahawks, I guess.

Ken Norton Jr.- Don't know

Jeff Hostetler- Don't know

[Cartierfor3]

I like this topic Metalhead. What team do you associate the following players with:

Deon Sanders - 49er

Drew Bledsoe - Patriot

Clinton Portis - Redskin

Marshall Faulk - Ram

Reggie White - Packer

Andre Rison - Falcon

Curtis Martin - Jet

Darren Sproles - Charger

Ricky Waters - journeyman

Ken Norton Jr. - 49er

Jeff Hostetler - Raider

You can't pick journeyman that's cheating

[420seriouscat69]

Sanders was with the 49ers for one year. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I like this topic Metalhead. What team do you associate the following players with:

Deon Sanders - 49er

Drew Bledsoe - Patriot

Clinton Portis - Redskin

Marshall Faulk - Ram

Reggie White - Packer

Andre Rison - Falcon

Curtis Martin - Jet

Darren Sproles - Charger

Ricky Waters - journeyman

Ken Norton Jr. - 49er

Jeff Hostetler - Raider

You can't pick journeyman that's cheating

I guess Seattle then. I don't think anyone else he played for would be in any rush to claim him.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Sanders was with the 49ers for one year. 

One year was all it took.

[420seriouscat69]

Sanders was with the 49ers for one year. 

One year was all it took.

He was really good that year.

[Emo EMAW]

It's just an interesting case. Players move teams a lot, but Neil is probably the only player to play the majority of his career in one place and then win back to back super bowls with another. I'm pretty sure he lives in the KC area, so I'm sure he considers himself a Chief. However, I think he would have to consider the back to back Superbowls the highlight of his career. What a weird predicament.

He does live here.  He golfs every day and has a loaded gun in every room of his house.  Also I'm pretty sure his son is an aspiring rapper.

[8manpick]

He was a co-owner of the KC Brigade.

[EMAWmeister]

 If you had one chance to convince someone to like the 2014 chiefs, what would your pitch be?

[The Big Train]

That we are getting a different QB

[j-dub]

If you had one chance to convince someone to like the 2014 chiefs, what would your pitch be?

jamaal. we don't know how many plays he has left. so watch him run now, while you can. because he's beautiful.

[EMAWmeister]

If you had one chance to convince someone to like the 2014 chiefs, what would your pitch be?

jamaal. we don't know how many plays he has left. so watch him run now, while you can. because he's beautiful.

Jamaal Charles is one of the few sports figures that I have never understood why everyone love him so much. I'm not trolling. Every chiefs fan drools over him, and I think he's a very nice player.


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[kim carnes]

@J-Dub: Marcus Allen: Chief or Raider. It cannot be both.

raider.

i don't care if he may have made an emotionally loaded statement back in the day because of al davis and their past drama. he was a raider.

super bowl mvp and league mvp as a raider. just shy of 13,000 total yards and 97 touchdowns as a raider. it's not close. he's a raider.

yep, no doubt about it