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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #375 on: February 01, 2025, 02:33:11 PM »
If you go to NTSB’s twitter without an account, the tweets aren’t in chronological order at all. The first 10 or so includes one from 2019. No way to get the latest news without being logged in with an account.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #376 on: February 01, 2025, 02:36:57 PM »
To sum up, they previously mandated that you had to have an email account, and now they’re saying you gotta have a free Twitter account or (correctly) assuming that journalists already  have a Twitter account or can log in to X using their employers Twitter account. 

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Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #377 on: February 01, 2025, 02:39:38 PM »
At worst, this is a “head scratcher.”  This is miles from being “troubling” and light years from being “mumped up.”

Next time you guys say that something’s “mumped up”  we are going to be thinking “here they go again with their outrage about failure to maintain email distribution lists…”

Honestly, calling this situation mumped up is more mumped up than the situation you’re accusing of being mumped up .

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #378 on: February 01, 2025, 02:40:52 PM »
Do you have to have a registered account to view twitter?

You can find individual tweets, but it's not all that easy. And you can't see replies, so you can't really follow threads.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #379 on: February 01, 2025, 02:46:42 PM »
Government should not be favoring one private sector entity over another. They should either put their information on all social media platforms or none of them.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #380 on: February 01, 2025, 02:53:53 PM »
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #381 on: February 01, 2025, 02:54:59 PM »
Ideally, they wouldn’t put it on any social media platform. However, maintaining a department website to post these sorts of things is a lot more pain in the ass than just posting it on Twitter.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #382 on: February 01, 2025, 02:56:12 PM »
I bet that the first time that a government entity said they were going to email out their materials instead of printing them and putting them in the mail that some people said this is an imposition and compromising free press.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #383 on: February 01, 2025, 02:58:14 PM »
Does the ntsb get money from the views?
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #384 on: February 01, 2025, 03:23:43 PM »
I think a government entity privatizing its communications for the first time ever is probably not something to simply shrug off. Especially given the conflict of interest with Musk.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #385 on: February 01, 2025, 03:28:24 PM »
Musk has heavy handed his censorship on X. Acting like this isn’t a big deal is a bit silly. How would everyone feel if the announcement was that all govt news was available strictly through CNN or strictly through Fox News.


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #386 on: February 01, 2025, 03:28:38 PM »
I think a government entity privatizing its communications for the first time ever is probably not something to simply shrug off. Especially given the conflict of interest with Musk.

It's not ideal nor perfect, but it's better than the information only going out to a privileged email list.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #387 on: February 01, 2025, 03:35:53 PM »
I think a government entity privatizing its communications for the first time ever is probably not something to simply shrug off. Especially given the conflict of interest with Musk.

It's not ideal nor perfect, but it's better than the information only going out to a privileged email list.

It looks like anyone could sign up for the list

https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/ListSubscriptionPage.aspx

Regardless there is no reason announcements couldn't be on multiple platforms, other than to direct traffic and money to Elon Musk.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #388 on: February 01, 2025, 03:39:09 PM »
Yeah, it's pretty naked cronyism
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #389 on: February 01, 2025, 03:40:12 PM »
I think a government entity privatizing its communications for the first time ever is probably not something to simply shrug off. Especially given the conflict of interest with Musk.

It's not ideal nor perfect, but it's better than the information only going out to a privileged email list.

It looks like anyone could sign up for the list

https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/ListSubscriptionPage.aspx

But there is no reason announcements couldn't be on multiple platforms, other than to direct traffic and money to Elon Musk.

If that is the case, I retract the word privileged. I still think posting on Twitter is better than an email list somebody has to sign up for. I realize that you need to sign up for Twitter in order for it to be truly functional, but there are a lot of other uses for Twitter and a lot of people have already signed up for Twitter.

However, there is no reason to not post it on multiple platforms.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #390 on: February 01, 2025, 03:44:10 PM »
However, there is no reason to not post it on multiple platforms.

oh there's definitely a reason

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #391 on: February 01, 2025, 04:14:48 PM »
I think Michigancat and Spracne are guilty of the boy who cried “mumped up” on this one.

You asked what the angle was. I gave you the angle. Now get back to slowly transforming into a Rogan bro.
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #392 on: February 01, 2025, 04:17:44 PM »
There also are (or were?) laws about this kind of thing. No biggie, though.
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #393 on: February 01, 2025, 04:44:51 PM »
Sounds like they were previously restricting it to an email distribution list, and everybody had to have an email account. Now you could walk into a computer at the library and see it online for free, couldn’t you? Or just pull up your phone and go to the ntsb on x.com.  I just did that in private mode on safari on my phone and it worked just fine.

also I don't expect facts to get in the way of your elon defense, but they definitely posted updates on press conferences on twitter before

https://x.com/NTSB_Newsroom/status/1869863095881146553

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #394 on: February 01, 2025, 04:50:03 PM »
Sounds like they were previously restricting it to an email distribution list, and everybody had to have an email account. Now you could walk into a computer at the library and see it online for free, couldn’t you? Or just pull up your phone and go to the ntsb on x.com.  I just did that in private mode on safari on my phone and it worked just fine.

also I don't expect facts to get in the way of your elon defense, but they definitely posted updates on press conferences on twitter before

https://x.com/NTSB_Newsroom/status/1869863095881146553

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #395 on: February 01, 2025, 04:59:37 PM »
I think Michigancat and Spracne are guilty of the boy who cried “mumped up” on this one.

You asked what the angle was. I gave you the angle. Now get back to slowly transforming into a Rogan bro.
I bet you have listened to more Rogan episodes than me! I’ve listened to exactly one. One episode in my entire life.

I haven’t even listened to his Elon episode.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #396 on: February 01, 2025, 05:01:03 PM »
Sounds like they were previously restricting it to an email distribution list, and everybody had to have an email account. Now you could walk into a computer at the library and see it online for free, couldn’t you? Or just pull up your phone and go to the ntsb on x.com.  I just did that in private mode on safari on my phone and it worked just fine.

also I don't expect facts to get in the way of your elon defense, but they definitely posted updates on press conferences on twitter before

https://x.com/NTSB_Newsroom/status/1869863095881146553
See! Not mumped up after all!

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #397 on: February 01, 2025, 05:09:56 PM »
I think a government entity privatizing its communications for the first time ever is probably not something to simply shrug off. Especially given the conflict of interest with Musk.



I can't tell if you guys are trolling but they just said they are posting the date and time of the press briefings on their X account instead of blasting out emails.  The same info is on their publically available website

https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/home.aspx



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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #398 on: February 01, 2025, 05:20:46 PM »
I think a government entity privatizing its communications for the first time ever is probably not something to simply shrug off. Especially given the conflict of interest with Musk.



I can't tell if you guys are trolling but they just said they are posting the date and time of the press briefings on their X account instead of blasting out emails.  The same info is on their publically available website

https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/home.aspx
That’s NOT mumped up. This one has been a mumped up false alarm (unlike the late breaking treasury payments thing, which does indeed appear to be mumped up).

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #399 on: February 01, 2025, 06:21:15 PM »
As long as NTSB posts the same info on their publicly available website, then nbd in my book. However, their announcement didn’t promise they would do that.

So at a bare minimum it’s a naked plug for Elon Musk’s company, which would draw criticism for any candidate other than the guy who people are still processing dragged “DEI” into a plane crash involving exclusively white male pilots as bodies were still being pulled out of the Potomac.