Let's talk about Elon Musk

[CHONGS]

Elon Musk is dedicated to eliminating what he considers the woke mind virus.  That is one reason why he has aligned with MAGA.  The other reason is the hope that MAGA does indeed burn it all down.

One should also keep in mind he is very much influenced by the likes of Curtis Yarvin.  He 'interest' in saving humanity is not inclusive of anything beyond him and his inner circle of tech bros.

I can’t disagree with any of that. And I also believe that that nasty little bug of his doesn’t diminish the utility of the things that he’s brought to our country.

I don't think he's brought much to our country.  His role in various technologies is vastly vastly overrated.

OK, maybe it’s somebody else who put all those rough ridin' satellites in space

It was, it was a whole company that did it.  But yes I'll grant you that he supplied some money to the effort.


I don't buy into the great man of history narrative.

[Pete]

Elon Musk is dedicated to eliminating what he considers the woke mind virus.  That is one reason why he has aligned with MAGA.  The other reason is the hope that MAGA does indeed burn it all down.

One should also keep in mind he is very much influenced by the likes of Curtis Yarvin.  He 'interest' in saving humanity is not inclusive of anything beyond him and his inner circle of tech bros.

I can’t disagree with any of that. And I also believe that that nasty little bug of his doesn’t diminish the utility of the things that he’s brought to our country.

I don't think he's brought much to our country.  His role in various technologies is vastly vastly overrated.

OK, maybe it’s somebody else who put all those rough ridin' satellites in space

It was, it was a whole company that did it. 

I don't buy into the great man of history narrative.

Dude, nobody rough ridin' believes he invented any of that rough ridin' crap, but nobody has proven in our lifetime to be able to get crap to market like him. You gotta go back to the old trustbuster days to find an oligarch who can get crap to market like him. The math speaks for itself. He’s single-handedly, proving that legacy defense contractors have been robbing us blind for generations. His ability to rough ridin' out maneuver them at a fraction of the cost in the space Race is absolutely transferable, and it is currently being transferred to all areas of defense.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Followup, does Elon believe the far right (globally) are just more easily manipulated to allow him to save the species from ai? Orrrr, does the far right really just have progressive views on ai defense and Elon is making the best of a poor situation?

I totally think it’s a means to an end. I absolutely think he believes that an authoritarian structure is the fastest and most efficient way to achieve what he wants. I think anybody who studied history agrees that that’s the fastest most efficient way to achieve anything.

As I’ve said, I think he is absolutely a piece of crap so that fits with the piece of crap narrative that I am putting forth .

Fascism has a proven history of achieving poverty. I think all of these supposed benefits only exist in your head.

Well, with that kind of attitude, you’re never gonna get a NeuroLink if you get paralyzed!

Why would anyone capable of designing a neurolink stay here if crap hits the fan? They would go somewhere that people are free, just like the Germans that helped us build the bomb did

So is it your opinion that like if Elon leaves the country he’ll just put all that in his brief case and then we won’t have it anymore?

I'm of the opinion that Elon knows nothing at all about rockets, satellites, cars, or social network development, and the world would be a better place if he died today.

[Pete]

Followup, does Elon believe the far right (globally) are just more easily manipulated to allow him to save the species from ai? Orrrr, does the far right really just have progressive views on ai defense and Elon is making the best of a poor situation?

I totally think it’s a means to an end. I absolutely think he believes that an authoritarian structure is the fastest and most efficient way to achieve what he wants. I think anybody who studied history agrees that that’s the fastest most efficient way to achieve anything.

As I’ve said, I think he is absolutely a piece of crap so that fits with the piece of crap narrative that I am putting forth .

Fascism has a proven history of achieving poverty. I think all of these supposed benefits only exist in your head.

Well, with that kind of attitude, you’re never gonna get a NeuroLink if you get paralyzed!

Why would anyone capable of designing a neurolink stay here if crap hits the fan? They would go somewhere that people are free, just like the Germans that helped us build the bomb did

So is it your opinion that like if Elon leaves the country he’ll just put all that in his brief case and then we won’t have it anymore?

I'm of the opinion that Elon knows nothing at all about rockets, satellites, cars, or social network development, and the world would be a better place if he died today.

I agree with you that he’s not the inventor of any of those things. he’s a promoter. He’s a cheerleader. He gets them to market and they flourish and our country is gonna reap gigantic benefits of that. The displacement of the legacy defense contractors is wonderful for America.

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Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

[Pete]

The solution to our debt crisis is not just taxing. And it’s not just cutting costs. It’s both we should be taxing the rich just like Warren Buffett says, and we should be cutting costs of our largest cost line item (defense…EXACT SAME companies as defense) just like Elon Musk says and has proven.

[Pete]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

[CHONGS]

Elon Musk is dedicated to eliminating what he considers the woke mind virus.  That is one reason why he has aligned with MAGA.  The other reason is the hope that MAGA does indeed burn it all down.

One should also keep in mind he is very much influenced by the likes of Curtis Yarvin.  He 'interest' in saving humanity is not inclusive of anything beyond him and his inner circle of tech bros.

I can’t disagree with any of that. And I also believe that that nasty little bug of his doesn’t diminish the utility of the things that he’s brought to our country.

I don't think he's brought much to our country.  His role in various technologies is vastly vastly overrated.

OK, maybe it’s somebody else who put all those rough ridin' satellites in space

It was, it was a whole company that did it. 

I don't buy into the great man of history narrative.

Dude, nobody rough ridin' believes he invented any of that rough ridin' crap, but nobody has proven in our lifetime to be able to get crap to market like him. You gotta go back to the old trustbuster days to find an oligarch who can get crap to market like him. The math speaks for itself. He’s single-handedly, proving that legacy defense contractors have been robbing us blind for generations. His ability to rough ridin' out maneuver them at a fraction of the cost in the space Race is absolutely transferable, and it is currently being transferred to all areas of defense.

Hey you admire who you want to.  I happen to think these claims are vastly over exaggerated. 

He's an excellent investor and entrepreneur.  I don't think he's some extraordinary scientific visionary who we need to look past his horrific goals for.

[CHONGS]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

He wants the H1B visas to have a captive workforce he can freely abuse.

[Pete]

He was born and raised in South rough ridin' Africa during apartheid. I just assume anybody who comes from that background has really mumped up and undesirable views on social matters. I’ve been to South Africa five times in my experience there the whites were pretty goddamn racist.

[Pete]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

He wants the H1B visas to have a captive workforce he can freely abuse.

So they just sit around and don’t do anything. Does he just keep them in like rough ridin' holding pens?

[star seed 7]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

Even the nazi's had a "the good ones can stay" clause, they weren't idiots.

[Pete]

Chong, you’re a technology guy. So to speak would you say that there are way more people with your skills than there are jobs?

[Pete]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

Even the nazi's had a "the good ones can stay" clause, they weren't idiots.

I mean, we brought a bunch of them here and employed them in our defense industry. Made them rich. Landed a man on the moon and captured the imagination of a generation of young engineers.

[Rage Against the McKee]

He was born and raised in South rough ridin' Africa during apartheid. I just assume anybody who comes from that background has really mumped up and undesirable views on social matters. I’ve been to South Africa five times in my experience there the whites were pretty goddamn racist.

No way he was making a Nazi salute, though...

[CHONGS]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

He wants the H1B visas to have a captive workforce he can freely abuse.

So they just sit around and don’t do anything. Does he just keep them in like rough ridin' holding pens?

No they do a lot of work.  But they are not able to push back in any way to abuse or other bad behavior.

[CHONGS]

Chong, you’re a technology guy. So to speak would you say that there are way more people with your skills than there are jobs?

No.  Not for my particular job and skills.

[Pete]

He was born and raised in South rough ridin' Africa during apartheid. I just assume anybody who comes from that background has really mumped up and undesirable views on social matters. I’ve been to South Africa five times in my experience there the whites were pretty goddamn racist.

No way he was making a Nazi salute, though...

ZING!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

Even the nazi's had a "the good ones can stay" clause, they weren't idiots.

I mean, we brought a bunch of them here and employed them in our defense industry. Made them rich. Landed a man on the moon and captured the imagination of a generation of young engineers.

Yes, they suffered severe brain drain and the United States was able to eclipse them technologically over the span of about a decade once they embraced fascism. Somehow you think that should be a selling point for us to embrace fascism.

[Pete]

Chong, you’re a technology guy. So to speak would you say that there are way more people with your skills than there are jobs?

No.  Not for my particular job and skills.

Let’s broaden it. I’m under the impression that there are way more engineering jobs in this country than there are qualified engineers for those jobs. What’s the right solution to address that within the next 10 to 20 years?

I contend that the best option to address that gap is bringing smart people here. I also admit that Elon Musk will likely behave like every other rough ridin' capitalist and try to maximize his benefit and minimize his cost and profit maximize.

In short, that’s why I support labor unions.

[star seed 7]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

Even the nazi's had a "the good ones can stay" clause, they weren't idiots.

I mean, we brought a bunch of them here and employed them in our defense industry. Made them rich. Landed a man on the moon and captured the imagination of a generation of young engineers.

I think you missed my point

[Pete]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

Even the nazi's had a "the good ones can stay" clause, they weren't idiots.

I mean, we brought a bunch of them here and employed them in our defense industry. Made them rich. Landed a man on the moon and captured the imagination of a generation of young engineers.

Yes, they suffered severe brain drain and the United States was able to eclipse them technologically over the span of about a decade once they embraced fascism. Somehow you think that should be a selling point for us to embrace fascism.

You lost me. Are you saying that America only got the benefits from stealing all those Nazis and putting them in our science program once America embraced fascism?

[Pete]

Does Elon think pure blood is a requirement for fascism or just a neat perk?

I don’t know, but I would love to have the data on those H1B’s that he said he would fight to protect. I bet you most of them come from a diversity of bloods, so that kind of leans against the pure blood thing.

Even the nazi's had a "the good ones can stay" clause, they weren't idiots.

I mean, we brought a bunch of them here and employed them in our defense industry. Made them rich. Landed a man on the moon and captured the imagination of a generation of young engineers.

I think you missed my point

I mean, I probably did. I’m holding six or seven of you fuckers off right now. A few of the things are gonna slip the cracks.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm saying we got the scientists who didn't want to be Nazis once Germany embraced fascism.

[Pete]

Show hands here how many of you motherfuckers will quit your job if you find out that your company CEO is a bigot?

I won’t. I’m the single breadwinner for my rough ridin' family. I might start looking for a new job if I find that out, but if I can’t find one that helps me to provide for my family as well, I’m staying right the eff where I’m at.