It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang

[TaqMan]

 

[BIG APPLE CAT]

It's time for someone to take down the complaints in this thread and then have a conversation about them on Hang with Tang.

if we included gene in the conversation, which we should, then it would be Hang with Tang and the Stang

i’d be willing to sit down with the pair and have this difficult conversation.  as brene brown taught me, being clear is kind.

The way things are going…it is going to be a Harangue with Tang and ‘Stang

[Spracne]

It's time for someone to take down the complaints in this thread and then have a conversation about them on Hang with Tang.

if we included gene in the conversation, which we should, then it would be Hang with Tang and the Stang

i’d be willing to sit down with the pair and have this difficult conversation.  as brene brown taught me, being clear is kind.

The way things are going…it is going to be a Harangue with Tang and ‘Stang

[GregKSU1027]

Heat check, anyone with a pulse. We may go 0fer in this holiday tournament. Are we all ok with that???

[michigancat]

Heat check, anyone with a pulse. We may go 0fer in this holiday tournament. Are we all ok with that???

we beat GW

[MakeItRain]

Heat check, anyone with a pulse. We may go 0fer in this holiday tournament. Are we all ok with that???

brother, are you okay?

[CNS]

Ups are better after a down. 

I hope DNG gets 25 tonight.

[pissclams]

given that tang has now provided more than enough evidence that shows he’s only capable of winning with oscar’s players, the question becomes who on the current staff gets removed in order to make room for our new recruiting coordinator, oscar weber

i’m not sure which of our staff is the weakest, since we don’t really excel at any particular part of the game so I’ll have to defer to the staff experts on the board to offer up some scalps

[EMAWzifried]

given that tang has now provided more than enough evidence that shows he’s only capable of winning with oscar’s players, the question becomes who on the current staff gets removed in order to make room for our new recruiting coordinator, oscar weber

i’m not sure which of our staff is the weakest, since we don’t really excel at any particular part of the game so I’ll have to defer to the staff experts on the board to offer up some scalps

He ran off Oscar's players, dumbass.

[Benja]

Counterpoint: shut up Greg


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[Skipper44]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

[Hurricane Cat]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

Definitely.  This may be an exciting season for all the wrong reasons. . .   

[pissclams]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

it’s not been on the rails for a couple years

i’ll keep saying it, this season is an extension of last.  nothing has changed.

[wetwillie]

It's really puzzling to me that they went after Dug so hard as their cornerstone to this years team and appear to have gotten 0 buy in out of him. Hes clearly immensely talented but looks like he gives 0 fucks about the outcome of the game.

[michigancat]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

it’s not been on the rails for a couple years

i’ll keep saying it, this season is an extension of last.  nothing has changed.

Last year I thought they lacked talent but played hard and this year it seems like they were all misjudged talent and they don't really play hard

[michigancat]

It's really puzzling to me that they went after Dug so hard as their cornerstone to this years team and appear to have gotten 0 buy in out of him. Hes clearly immensely talented but looks like he gives 0 fucks about the outcome of the game.

It feels like there are quite a few guys that were basically the first or second option at their old teams and don't know what to do as the third or fourth or fifth. Dug I think could/should be a first option here but dunno

[nicname]

My biggest question is whetherTang and Co wanted to hang on to guys like Ames and RJ Jones, and even Cam, or they wanted to gut the team again and basically start over from scratch. If there wasn’t any holding on to the guys who transferred away, then it’s hard to fault them for trying to make the best of the situation.

But, if the plan was to jettison all these guys and overhaul the roster, then I have little sympathy tbh.

We’d be a better team with a roster consisting of the better part of

Ames
RJ Jones
Cam
Colbert
N’Guessan
Rich
Finister
Kaluma
Castillo
Manning …two or three transfers in than what we’re trotting out there this season. They’d be a lot more easy to root for as a fan as well.

Again, Inhave no clue how many of those guys simply weren’t going to be coming back either way.

[nicname]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

it’s not been on the rails for a couple years

i’ll keep saying it, this season is an extension of last.  nothing has changed.

Last year I thought they lacked talent but played hard and this year it seems like they were all misjudged talent and they don't really play hard

Right. They were a squad you could see had the potential to build on with an added piece or two, and/or simple experience and maturation.

[michigancat]

My biggest question is whetherTang and Co wanted to hang on to guys like Ames and RJ Jones, and even Cam, or they wanted to gut the team again and basically start over from scratch. If there wasn’t any holding on to the guys who transferred away, then it’s hard to fault them for trying to make the best of the situation.

But, if the plan was to jettison all these guys and overhaul the roster, then I have little sympathy tbh.

We’d be a better team with a roster consisting of the better part of

Ames
RJ Jones
Cam
Colbert
N’Guessan
Rich
Finister
Kaluma
Castillo
Manning …two or three transfers in than what we’re trotting out there this season. They’d be a lot more easy to root for as a fan as well.

Again, Inhave no clue how many of those guys simply weren’t going to be coming back either way.

It's a completely new world. I think most coaches that are good people and successful previously deserve a bit of a grace period as they figure out the new transfer portal/NIL landscape. It's pretty clear the staff did a very good job winning the recruiting battles but it was either the wrong talent (or let the wrong talent go) and/or they have done a bad job with the players they got. It's really a combination of both and they need to learn but I expect a lot of wild swings year-to-year for most non-blue-bloods until things stabilize (if they ever do)

[wetwillie]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

it’s not been on the rails for a couple years

i’ll keep saying it, this season is an extension of last.  nothing has changed.

Last year I thought they lacked talent but played hard and this year it seems like they were all misjudged talent and they don't really play hard

Right. They were a squad you could see had the potential to build on with an added piece or two, and/or simple experience and maturation.

You watched the same team I did that got smoked in the first round of the NIT right?

[michigancat]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

it’s not been on the rails for a couple years

i’ll keep saying it, this season is an extension of last.  nothing has changed.

Last year I thought they lacked talent but played hard and this year it seems like they were all misjudged talent and they don't really play hard

Right. They were a squad you could see had the potential to build on with an added piece or two, and/or simple experience and maturation.

You watched the same team I did that got smoked in the first round of the NIT right?

They also won 3 games against top 10 teams

[pissclams]

this thing may get completely off rails with games vs an undefeated Drake in KC followed by a trip to Wichita vs an 8-1 Shocker team in front of the football first, casual hoops fans.

it’s not been on the rails for a couple years

i’ll keep saying it, this season is an extension of last.  nothing has changed.

Last year I thought they lacked talent but played hard and this year it seems like they were all misjudged talent and they don't really play hard

both teams were/are talented but neither play well together. i’ve never seen anything like it, it’s like every time they play together is the first time they’ve played together.

one weakness last year was we didn’t have a point guard and had TP playing out of position.  this year we have dug but the rest of the roster minus DNG are lost.

cj jones is a liability on the floor as are many of the second string players

peggy po is that they played pretty well for the first ten minutes today, tang and staff will build on those ten minutes.  he’s got a big puzzle to figure out with these rotations though

[EMAWzifried]

I feel they will come together and Tang will find the right mix. Puzzled by some of the personnel moves. The CJ starting over Dug has to end, tho.  Achor Achor should be more productive, but seems so lost of D. And Rich didn't even see the floor today, even when we were getting manhandled on the boards in the second half.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Amazing meltdown by Scott on Boscoe Boys yesterday.
TL/DR: Coaching staff thought they could create a good team simply by passing out NIL cash and it ain't working.

[EMAWzifried]

Should have thrown money at at one or two more swing SGs/SFs of quality. But it ain't only Tang and gang. KU unhappy with their haul and Storr in particular.