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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2024, 11:27:13 AM »
this is what you guys wanted lmao

oscar laughing at us rn

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2024, 11:59:43 AM »
The downhill slide has been a bit puzzling.
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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2024, 12:04:06 PM »
this is what you guys wanted lmao

oscar laughing at us rn
LOL. Oscar was hopelessly out of touch with CBB when he got canned and would be more so in the fullblown NIL era. Although I do imagine you're right and the clueless idiot is laughing.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2024, 12:13:54 PM »
I miss junkyard cats

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2024, 12:21:47 PM »
Yes, there's a decided lack of junkyard in this year's Cats.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2024, 01:15:41 PM »
Maybe the Junkyard Cats can join the Lynch Mob and they'll all be back next year. Back on the play hard chart.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2024, 01:33:05 PM »
Should have thrown money at at one or two more swing SGs/SFs of quality. But it ain't only Tang and gang. KU unhappy with their haul and Storr in particular.

I'm sure they'll be fine but I never got the with Storr and particularly Mayo.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2024, 02:00:55 PM »
like i said before he is nothing without nowell, a freaking sec player of the year, and hitting the lottery with tomlin

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2024, 03:04:57 PM »
like i said before he is nothing without nowell, a freaking sec player of the year, and hitting the lottery with tomlin

All three ended up here by complete blind lottery, right? Neither he nor the staff had anything to do with evaluating, offering, and landing each player. Everyone knows that after 21-22, K-State fans absolutely adored Nowell and prayed to sweet baby jesus that he stayed here.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2024, 03:11:10 PM »
It's "As I said ... " you hick. And who is this SEC POY you eak of? Because that's disingenuous AF.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2024, 03:16:47 PM »
It's "As I said ... " you hick. And who is this SEC POY you eak of? Because that's disingenuous AF.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2024, 03:25:40 PM »
It's "As I said ... " you hick. And who is this SEC POY you eak of? Because that's disingenuous AF.

my bad. preseason sec poy

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2024, 05:09:41 PM »
Based on our experience with Frank, oscar and Tang, I've come to a thought. But I can easily be talked out of it.

I think roster and coach chemistry is almost impossible to predict, and the range is wide. We saw Frank go from Elite 8 media darlings to irrelevant. We saw oscar go from Big 12 Champions to irrelevant to Elite 8 to Big 12 Champions to irrelevant. And Tang has gone from Elite 8 media darlings to irrelevant. I don't think this is unique to K-State, I think it is just college basketball outside of 5 or so programs. In fact, the fact that we've had 3 coaches in a row be able to make Elite 8 is pretty rough ridin' wild.

So, I don't know what expectations of a college basketball coach should be. If we make the Elite 8 then go two years without making the tournament, should that be the end of any coach? Should there be one more year where it is tournament or bust? What're the expectations if we brought in a new coach for next season?

Also, how different would vibes be about basketball if K-State football had just won the Big 12? It'd probably be like a parent who is okay with their second child being a big goofball because their oldest is getting straight A's and has interest from Ivy League schools.


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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2024, 05:14:19 PM »
When was Frank Martin irrelevant at KSU? 
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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2024, 05:23:14 PM »
Based on our experience with Frank, oscar and Tang, I've come to a thought. But I can easily be talked out of it.

I think roster and coach chemistry is almost impossible to predict, and the range is wide. We saw Frank go from Elite 8 media darlings to irrelevant. We saw oscar go from Big 12 Champions to irrelevant to Elite 8 to Big 12 Champions to irrelevant. And Tang has gone from Elite 8 media darlings to irrelevant. I don't think this is unique to K-State, I think it is just college basketball outside of 5 or so programs. In fact, the fact that we've had 3 coaches in a row be able to make Elite 8 is pretty rough ridin' wild.

So, I don't know what expectations of a college basketball coach should be. If we make the Elite 8 then go two years without making the tournament, should that be the end of any coach? Should there be one more year where it is tournament or bust? What're the expectations if we brought in a new coach for next season?

Also, how different would vibes be about basketball if K-State football had just won the Big 12? It'd probably be like a parent who is okay with their second child being a big goofball because their oldest is getting straight A's and has interest from Ivy League schools.

In regards to your elite 8 comments I think evaluating teams based on their NCAA tourney results is fools gold. Conference record/standings is a much better indicator of how good a team was that year and how we should evaluate how successful a season was IMO. Frank was clearly our GOAT of the last 3.

Frank (12 teams first 3 years, 10 the last 2) - 3, T-4, T-2, T-3, 5
oscar (10 teams) - T-1, 5, T-6, 8, 6, 4, T-1, 10, 10
Tang (10 teams then 14) - 3, T-9, TBD

Also yes, if we had just won the Big12 in FB or at least made the conference championship game Katz fans would be a lot more willing to overlook a slow start by the tang gang.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2024, 06:31:05 PM »
oscar was 4th during the elite 8 year. 3 seasons of winning big 12s or going to e8s out of 10 is pretty good! :eek:

frank and jerome have 2 total 🤡

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2024, 08:24:56 PM »
oscar was 4th during the elite 8 year. 3 seasons of winning big 12s or going to e8s out of 10 is pretty good! :eek:

frank and jerome have 2 total 🤡

bro there’s not a single person here who wanted oscar to leave.  he was made fun of here and there for being quirky, but our fan base supported him unconditionally.


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #92 on: December 13, 2024, 04:10:43 PM »
bye Dug  :bawl:

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #93 on: December 13, 2024, 04:28:54 PM »
This team's cooked. CJ just kind of sucks and Castillo isn't ready.

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2024, 04:33:00 PM »

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #97 on: December 13, 2024, 04:53:28 PM »
Damn. This team is toast.
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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #98 on: December 13, 2024, 06:16:41 PM »
Dug details please

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Re: It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang
« Reply #99 on: December 13, 2024, 06:24:11 PM »
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