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Re: clarence thomas
« Reply #75 on: April 19, 2023, 09:01:15 AM »
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« Reply #76 on: April 19, 2023, 09:27:52 AM »
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« Reply #77 on: April 19, 2023, 09:56:23 AM »

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« Reply #78 on: April 19, 2023, 10:06:51 AM »
Ben Sasse becoming a Florida Gator left a gaping hole in gE and I applaud sys for filling the gap. It takes a village.


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Re: clarence thomas
« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2023, 03:15:14 PM »

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« Reply #81 on: April 19, 2023, 03:54:38 PM »
Yes, it's called the entirety of the perpetually enraged #blueanon movement (millions upon millions strong)


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« Reply #82 on: April 19, 2023, 04:13:43 PM »
Yes, it's called the entirety of the perpetually enraged #blueanon movement (millions upon millions strong)

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« Reply #83 on: April 19, 2023, 04:18:47 PM »
Yes, it's called the entirety of the perpetually enraged #blueanon movement (millions upon millions strong)

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« Reply #84 on: April 20, 2023, 02:08:23 PM »
apologies for beating a dead horse, but i think it's useful to point out that people who know better will start dishonest talking points to serve their interests and those talking points are often then amplified by trusting partisans and/or gullible media.  there are now 26 judges that have been passed out of the judiciary committee and are waiting for a floor vote to be confirmed.

these last seven just a couple days after durbin made comments that were interpreted to mean that he couldn't move anyone out of committee with feinstein gone.

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« Reply #85 on: April 25, 2023, 07:36:53 AM »

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« Reply #86 on: April 25, 2023, 07:58:11 AM »
I know the “I’ve never been drunk, I just drink beers and puke a lot” testimony from Kavanaugh took most of the attention, but didn’t he have a lot of 6 figure payments floating around with some “lawyer buddies” as well?

I just assume that all of these people are crooked, but they don’t even seem to mind their manners any more. We are fully in the crap with the door open part of our relationship with our rotten institutions.

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« Reply #87 on: April 25, 2023, 08:06:00 AM »
I don’t think that’s true, I think it’s just easier to expose it.
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« Reply #88 on: April 25, 2023, 10:07:48 AM »
I don’t think that’s true, I think it’s just easier to expose it.
I haven’t been politically aware much since GWB, but there is definitely a different feeling to me in that it seems for literally any “scandal” you can imagine, an overwhelming proportion of a major party will insist the perpetrator is in the right.

That seems like a recent phenomenon. Like we literally now have large swaths of Americans who at one point were terrified their peers might be Communist spies and now are repeating Kremlin talking points word for word and saying they trust Putin more than the US president.

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« Reply #89 on: April 25, 2023, 11:04:40 AM »
I have to say, these Gorsuch revelations don't really move the needle for me much. The Thomas stuff is much more appalling.
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« Reply #90 on: April 25, 2023, 11:10:41 AM »
I have to say, these Gorsuch revelations don't really move the needle for me much. The Thomas stuff is much more appalling.
Why is that?

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« Reply #91 on: April 25, 2023, 11:17:15 AM »
I have to say, these Gorsuch revelations don't really move the needle for me much. The Thomas stuff is much more appalling.
Why is that?

I think they both should be investigated, but Gorsuch is at least selling something of value as opposed to Thomas accepting money for his mom to live rent-free.

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« Reply #92 on: April 25, 2023, 11:19:39 AM »
They are both clearly selling something of value. The problem is what they are selling isn’t supposed to be sold.
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« Reply #93 on: April 25, 2023, 11:23:31 AM »
I have to say, these Gorsuch revelations don't really move the needle for me much. The Thomas stuff is much more appalling.
Why is that?

The property had been on the market for a long time, and the price kept getting reduced (I don't want to re-read the article, but it dropped some 700K before it sold). Gorsuch was a fractional owner (20%) of the investment vehicle (LLC) that owned the property. The guy who bought it (Duffy) seems to have actually wanted the property as a Colorado resident and fisherman and apparently didn't know Gorsuch had an interest in it until after he was interested in buying it. There's no indication the sale was above FMV. He cleared it through his ethics dept/general counsel before closing. He claims to have never met nor spoken with Gorsuch. I'm also less concerned about Gorsuch's ethics than Thomas's or Alito's. He seems fairly above-board to me. Just my opinions, so take it FWIW. It does seem pretty obvious now that no one is really checking these disclosure forms for compliance. Boxes left unchecked, blanks left unfilled, etc. We should do something about that.

Also, Duffy was/is based in Denver, which is also where Gorsuch sat at the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals before being elevated. If Duffy really wanted to cozy up to Gorsuch, he had ample opportunity to do so but didn't. Has still (allegedly) never had any personal interactions with him. I have a hard time believing Gorsuch would give preferential treatment to an entire law firm because of this event.

Full disclosure: one of my former professors is personal friends with Gorsuch and attended his White House ceremony. Said professor also happens to be a biglaw partner. Judges are lawyers and interact almost exclusively with lawyers. It would be difficult or impossible to avoid betraying loyalties given the breadth of their personal networks, so I assume most (but not all!) just stick to the papers in front of them.

I don't mind reporting all of these instances, however, because it might pressure Roberts to actually put emphasis on proper disclosures. Wishful thinking, probably ...

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« Reply #94 on: April 25, 2023, 11:38:12 AM »
I have to say, these Gorsuch revelations don't really move the needle for me much. The Thomas stuff is much more appalling.
Why is that?

The property had been on the market for a long time, and the price kept getting reduced (I don't want to re-read the article, but it dropped some 700K before it sold). Gorsuch was a fractional owner (20%) of the investment vehicle (LLC) that owned the property. The guy who bought it (Duffy) seems to have actually wanted the property as a Colorado resident and fisherman and apparently didn't know Gorsuch had an interest in it until after he was interested in buying it. There's no indication the sale was above FMV. He cleared it through his ethics dept/general counsel before closing. He claims to have never met nor spoken with Gorsuch. I'm also less concerned about Gorsuch's ethics than Thomas's or Alito's. He seems fairly above-board to me. Just my opinions, so take it FWIW. It does seem pretty obvious now that no one is really checking these disclosure forms for compliance. Boxes left unchecked, blanks left unfilled, etc. We should do something about that.

Also, Duffy was/is based in Denver, which is also where Gorsuch sat at the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals before being elevated. If Duffy really wanted to cozy up to Gorsuch, he had ample opportunity to do so but didn't. Has still (allegedly) never had any personal interactions with him. I have a hard time believing Gorsuch would give preferential treatment to an entire law firm because of this event.

Full disclosure: one of my former professors is personal friends with Gorsuch and attended his White House ceremony. Said professor also happens to be a biglaw partner. Judges are lawyers and interact almost exclusively with lawyers. It would be difficult or impossible to avoid betraying loyalties given the breadth of their personal networks, so I assume most (but not all!) just stick to the papers in front of them.

I don't mind reporting all of these instances, however, because it might pressure Roberts to actually put emphasis on proper disclosures. Wishful thinking, probably ...



makes a lot of sense, thanks. It still doesn't quite pass the smell test for me.

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« Reply #95 on: April 25, 2023, 01:50:14 PM »
They are both clearly selling something of value. The problem is what they are selling isn’t supposed to be sold.

Selling a house that your mom is still going to live in rent-free until death doesn't strike me as having value to the buyer.

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« Reply #96 on: April 25, 2023, 01:56:33 PM »
They are both clearly selling something of value. The problem is what they are selling isn’t supposed to be sold.

Selling a house that your mom is still going to live in rent-free until death doesn't strike me as having value to the buyer.

They are selling influence is what I meant. It just takes different forms. Clarence appears to be worse/doesn’t care about covering his tracks.
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« Reply #97 on: April 25, 2023, 02:41:16 PM »
They are both clearly selling something of value. The problem is what they are selling isn’t supposed to be sold.

Selling a house that your mom is still going to live in rent-free until death doesn't strike me as having value to the buyer.

They are selling influence is what I meant. It just takes different forms. Clarence appears to be worse/doesn’t care about covering his tracks.

I just see this as entirely different than Thomas's stuff.
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« Reply #98 on: April 25, 2023, 02:47:41 PM »
Just give Neil 20 more years to get to Clarence levels of apathy.
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« Reply #99 on: April 25, 2023, 02:52:07 PM »
Just give Neil 20 more years to get to Clarence levels of apathy.

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