Explain fentanyl to me

[MakeItRain]

I think, no, I know, there are a lot of people capping about fentanyl. Like this

[sonofdaxjones]

Worth noting that the overwhelming majority of heroin users are not people who just decided one day “hey ya know what? I think I’ll dabble with heroin because why not?” It’s almost always a less potent opioid like oxy, Abe’s in many cases those ppl were not interested in being drug users, their doctors just gave them opioids bc they fell off the ladder when they were hanging their Christmas lights and the doc said “yeah an opioid is appropriate” and then bam they addicted and yes it really can (and does!) happen that way bc of the frighteningly addictive properties of opioids. A then when they can’t get any more refills, it’s not like the addiction just magically goes away, unfortunately

  This fentanyl uproar should serve as a call to action in the medical industry or regulation world as to such prescriptions and not making them or only making them when there's some control involved for avoiding that addiction and having plans for getting those people transitioned out of the prescription.

The good folks at Perdue have assured us that these drugs are perfectly safe and non-addictive

I think a lot of Dr's were duped by the manufacturers. My Dr in no way is a pill pusher. He rarely even gives me antibiotics. When I had my first kidney stone about 15 years ago I had to wait about a week for surgery since it was stuck. He threw a giant bottle of oxy at me for the pain.

Doctors don't do that now from what I've observed.  Anecdotally it takes substantial, usually orthopedic surgeries to get prescribed opioid based pain killers, and it's tightly monitored.

I got some the other day for some oral surgery but it was only like 5. And they were just Vicodin. When I was in college I had wisdom teeth removed and some other stuff done and the doc gave me 60 (!) Vicodin and I definitely didn’t need that many but man I took them anyway. After a month I ran out and even those “mid” opioids had me fully understanding how people got hooked on this stuff.


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Hammering home my point about doctors rolling back on this stuff, thanks SD 

dax, I realize it's probably just a reflex action at this point but I wasn't attempting to disagree with you at all there. was just providing my experience and confirming the differences you noted.

I affirmed your affirmation. 


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[sys]

I think the real heroin (from poppies) is much harder to make and smuggle.  The synthetic stuff can be made in mexico in a lab with zero poppies.  So, might as well cut the expensive poppies derived stuff with the lab stuff fulfill consumer demand of the poppies stuff (not telling them, of course)

i dunno much about the illegal drug trade or its use in the u.s., but i do know that they grow a lot of real poppies in mexico for that trade.

[sys]

i wonder if there's anyone selling oldtimey botanical opiates.  like could i go out and find some laudanum or old-fashioned smoking opium in the u.s. if i wanted?

[mocat]

Not gE'ing, there was a really good photo essay about fentanyl that I read about 2 mos ago. Cannot find the link now..


Edit: found it. absolutely gut-wrenching.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/tijuana-mexico-fentanyl-crime/

awful

[mocat]

i wonder if there's anyone selling oldtimey botanical opiates.  like could i go out and find some laudanum or old-fashioned smoking opium in the u.s. if i wanted?

sherlock holmes style old timey Chinese opium den

[steve dave]

i wonder if there's anyone selling oldtimey botanical opiates.  like could i go out and find some laudanum or old-fashioned smoking opium in the u.s. if i wanted?

When I was in college a guy I knew and bought COCAINE from was smoking opium and let me try it. It tastes really good. I don't think I inhaled it right because it didn't really do anything for me. could have been all the COCAINE I was breathing in through my nose though.

[steve dave]

i heard they mess up your pooping

Shrooms, on the other hand … great for pooping!

COCAINE is also good for this

[star seed 7]

That has not been my experience

[Gooch]

Huh? All this time I was thinking cocaine would make you constipated.

[star seed 7]

About the COCAINE, not the opiates.

[star seed 7]

But there is a person I used to hang out with that would have to drop a dookie after some lines of COCAINE so maybe

[steve dave]

Huh? All this time I was thinking cocaine would make you constipated.

Well I can only speak anecdotally but every session of nose beers has always started with me completely emptying my bowels after the first brewsky.

[Dugout DickStone]

Good thing NBs are best consumed in the bathroom

[catastrophe]

That would make such a good anti-drug commercial. Do a full Dumb-and-Dumber style poop scene.

[sys]

sherlock holmes style old timey Chinese opium den

retvrn.

[Dugout DickStone]

I Was unaware that the cop touching then overdosing was fake.

[Spracne]

Whoa, we talking NBs in here?

[Dugout DickStone]

also do dealers give away every halloween?

[sonofdaxjones]

A small state, Maine said that of 700 or so reported drug overdose deaths in 2022.  80% of them were from Fentanyl.

But Fentanyl is the latest punch line for #blueanon/#blueanongE and just like talking about crime is racist, now talking about Fentanyl is apparently anti-immigrant and similar.

Congrats Cartels and congrats Chinese and Indian Fentanyl component providers and money launders . . . you have a friend in #blueanon 

[mocat]

cops pretending to experience seizures during seizures (lol) from simply touching or breathing air around fentanyl will never not be funny to me

[steve dave]

cops pretending to experience seizures during seizures (lol) from simply touching or breathing air around fentanyl will never not be funny to me

Remember the cop wife who did it? lmao


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[Dugout DickStone]

cops pretending to experience seizures during seizures (lol) from simply touching or breathing air around fentanyl will never not be funny to me

Literally today years old when I learned they were faking to get attention and create a work comp claim

what huge dorks

[cfbandyman]

My own personal story with opioids. I had a really deviated septum thanks to a baseball to the face during the 2k13 kazzu cats baseball season and went to the regional in Manhattan (played plenty, that part wasnt so bad). But as any recent grad after than spending another 10k to fix it right then, I let it go til December 31st 2020 (best way to end that year). Had the surgery to fix my nose. They gave me oxy (like 30 of them) for the pain. Didn't take one til after 24 hours past. And, holy crap, I went from feeling miserable to feeling like I was 4/7 after just 1 pill. Even my mom who was taking care of me during that time remarked "you are definitely feeling better aren't you!" and I was.

And for a bit I would take a half of one just to feel good, and goddamn was it good. But thanks to my brother I threw it all away before I got to like 5 pills used (only 5, of 30). That crap is no joke. It's like being comfortably drunk off one pill (for me). I can more than see anyone getting addicted to it. And I am glad to this day I never fell more into that snake pit.

[nicname]

My own personal story with opioids. I had a really deviated septum thanks to a baseball to the face during the 2k13 kazzu cats baseball season and went to the regional in Manhattan (played plenty, that part wasnt so bad). But as any recent grad after than spending another 10k to fix it right then, I let it go til December 31st 2020 (best way to end that year). Had the surgery to fix my nose. They gave me oxy (like 30 of them) for the pain. Didn't take one til after 24 hours past. And, holy crap, I went from feeling miserable to feeling like I was 4/7 after just 1 pill. Even my mom who was taking care of me during that time remarked "you are definitely feeling better aren't you!" and I was.

And for a bit I would take a half of one just to feel good, and goddamn was it good. But thanks to my brother I threw it all away before I got to like 5 pills used (only 5, of 30). That crap is no joke. It's like being comfortably drunk off one pill (for me). I can more than see anyone getting addicted to it. And I am glad to this day I never fell more into that snake pit.

Today I learned you were a stud cat baseballer