2024 Presidential Race

[Fldermaus]

Just a rinse repeat of 16.


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Eh you could argue 2016 was a fluke. This wasn't a fluke, it was a real shift.

Yeah the shift towards trump from Latinos is pretty incredible

What issues drive that?

The entire R platform is to convince people that they are going to make it worse for "other people" than they have it. It doesn't really matter who the "other" people are. It doesn't even matter that their own lives won't be noticeably better, it just matters that others will have it worse.

That doesn't explain a double digit shift from 2020

Last night they were emphasizing that a big component of the demographic shifts in blacks and Latinos was among males specifically. The difference between now and 2020 is that the Democratic candidate (1) was not connected to Obama, and (2) was a woman.

yeah, this is probably it. It's sad, but i bet a ton of dudes out there just aren't going to vote for a woman regardless.

I was going to say the same thing. I think most of that shift can be explained by simple sexism.

[cfbandyman]

The Supreme Court has not specifically interpreted the Twenty-Second Amendment to determine whether a president is prohibited from serving more than two terms in total or just two consecutive terms. The amendment clearly states that no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, but it does not explicitly address non-consecutive terms. As such, there is no Supreme Court ruling clarifying this aspect, and the general understanding remains that a president cannot serve more than two terms in total.

I mean, if they interpret that to mean can run again, it means Obama can roll again. I don't think Trump wants to go against Obama right?   

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Yeah that's also a good point, and why I don't think it'll hold up against anything. Cause if you say "ok you win two in a row you can't have a 3rd in a row, but non-consecutively dngaf as long as it's not consecutive" then basically Clinton, Bush and Obama could run again. Which is neither the intent no even a serious reading passes the sniff test. You could win two in a row, take one off, and win two in a row, and take one off until you're dead then.

[sonofdaxjones]

Just think - If you had just called bullshit on Anthony Blinks orchestrated disinformation campaign, the 2nd biggest disinformation campaign in modern U.S. history just behind Trump - Russian COLUSION.  There's a very good chance you could have been waving Don Trump out of the door of the WH in a few months.

Instead you let 50 plus professional liars from the intelligence blob convince millions of derps that Hunter's laptop was a "classic Russian intelligence operation" . . . when in reality it was all true, and it was a treasure trove of Biden Family Incs decade plus long pay to play operation to sell access to Joe Biden across the globe, a period which included his time as VPOTUS.  Paying out the Biden's over 20 million dollars that we know about, as bank records clearly indicate nothing less than a substantial money laundering operation. Of the type that if it was presented to DOJ/DOT-IRS officials about you or I. We would be getting a months long colonoscopy from multiple Federal agencies. 

[steve dave]

I’m honestly shocked


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[Stupid Fitz]

Just think - If you had just called bullshit on Anthony Blinks orchestrated disinformation campaign, the 2nd biggest disinformation campaign in modern U.S. history just behind Trump - Russian COLUSION.  There's a very good chance you could have been waving Don Trump out of the door of the WH in a few months.

Instead you let 50 plus professional liars from the intelligence blob convince millions of derps that Hunter's laptop was a "classic Russian intelligence operation" . . . when in reality it was all true, and it was a treasure trove of Biden Family Incs decade plus long pay to play operation to sell access to Joe Biden across the globe, a period which included his time as VPOTUS.  Paying out the Biden's over 20 million dollars that we know about, as bank records clearly indicate nothing less than a substantial money laundering operation. Of the type that if it was presented to DOJ/DOT-IRS officials about you or I. We would be getting a months long colonoscopy from multiple Federal agencies.

do you honestly believe that this is why the average american voted for Trump and not Harris?

[Brock Landers]

WTF man.  The United States is a deeply stupid and unserious nation.

[cfbandyman]

I’m honestly shocked


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Speaking of money SD where should we put our investments after this? One way or another this is going to be shitty $$$ wise and I'll be damned if a reinvigorated inflation wipes out savings. Is there a way to invest in the grift?

[Stupid Fitz]

I’m honestly shocked


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Speaking of money SD where should we put our investments after this? One way or another this is going to be shitty $$$ wise and I'll be damned if a reinvigorated inflation wipes out savings. Is there a way to invest in the grift?

wondering this myself. Elon has basically told everyone they are going to tank it. (but it will totally be worth it you guys!!!). how long before this whip ass economy stops being so whip ass?

[GregKSU1027]

I’m honestly shocked


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I'm not shocked, I am mad. Beyond mad. Will be donating to organizations like the ACLU. I will be asking as an American and switching my party affiliation to the Republicans to vote against this guy in Midterms.

Bomb threats from Russia in all of the swing states in battleground counties probably isn't a coincidence either.

[chum1]

After 2016 and Biden's super close win in 2020, this really shouldn't be shocking any longer.

[Cartierfor3]

Saw it coming a mile away. 2 of the last 3 elections the Democrats have basically anointed their wildly unpopular candidate and had nothing resembling a primary.

Harris did not outperform Biden in any county in the country. Not one.

[Stupid Fitz]

After 2016 and Biden's super close win in 2020, this really shouldn't be shocking any longer.

Agree, but I will die still being shocked that Donald Trump convinced over half of voting American that he cares about them. It's absolutely bonkers and no one will convince me otherwise.

[michigancat]

Just a rinse repeat of 16.


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Eh you could argue 2016 was a fluke. This wasn't a fluke, it was a real shift.

Yeah the shift towards trump from Latinos is pretty incredible

What issues drive that?

my theory is they are much more conservative when it comes to abortion and "identity politics" type stuff. Like whoever started "Latinx" and made it part of being a Democrat likely did quite a bit of damage.

But I don't think that explains how it shifted so dramatically and quickly.

[sonofdaxjones]

Just think - If you had just called bullshit on Anthony Blinks orchestrated disinformation campaign, the 2nd biggest disinformation campaign in modern U.S. history just behind Trump - Russian COLUSION.  There's a very good chance you could have been waving Don Trump out of the door of the WH in a few months.

Instead you let 50 plus professional liars from the intelligence blob convince millions of derps that Hunter's laptop was a "classic Russian intelligence operation" . . . when in reality it was all true, and it was a treasure trove of Biden Family Incs decade plus long pay to play operation to sell access to Joe Biden across the globe, a period which included his time as VPOTUS.  Paying out the Biden's over 20 million dollars that we know about, as bank records clearly indicate nothing less than a substantial money laundering operation. Of the type that if it was presented to DOJ/DOT-IRS officials about you or I. We would be getting a months long colonoscopy from multiple Federal agencies.

do you honestly believe that this is why the average american voted for Trump and not Harris?

Please tell me what part of that post was about the 2024 election.

Be very specific.

[steve dave]

I’m honestly shocked


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Speaking of money SD where should we put our investments after this? One way or another this is going to be shitty $$$ wise and I'll be damned if a reinvigorated inflation wipes out savings. Is there a way to invest in the grift?

Great news for us, the market doesn’t care who the president it

https://x.com/petermallouk/status/1853437544379347236?s=46


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[sonofdaxjones]

 

[XocolateThundarr]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxc2nF_CRMqmjYlxUNbr4CRMKcq6e9o-ls?si=R9RHF0XJOegXMp5Q

[tdaver]

Except Hoover.  That guy sucks.

[Cartierfor3]

Just a rinse repeat of 16.


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Eh you could argue 2016 was a fluke. This wasn't a fluke, it was a real shift.

Yeah the shift towards trump from Latinos is pretty incredible

What issues drive that?

my theory is they are much more conservative when it comes to abortion and "identity politics" type stuff. Like whoever started "Latinx" and made it part of being a Democrat likely did quite a bit of damage.

But I don't think that explains how it shifted so dramatically and quickly.

Yes. Also very conservative on gender issues.

The conspiracy theory Q stuff about God's anointing on Trump is also big in the Evangelical side of the Latino community. It's not one thing, but I'm also not surprised. 

[cfbandyman]

Saw it coming a mile away. 2 of the last 3 elections the Democrats have basically anointed their wildly unpopular candidate and had nothing resembling a primary.

Harris did not outperform Biden in any county in the country. Not one.

That is def an issue. They (dems) need to let a candidate be a candidate and win people over. Lat time they really did that was Obama and that worked out really well

[Cartierfor3]

There is also so many people who basically consume no legacy media. I talked with some Trumpers and not only did they not know John Kelly called him a fascist, they didn't know who John Kelly was.

[sonofdaxjones]

There is also so many people who basically consume no legacy media. I talked with some Trumpers and not only did they not know John Kelly called him a fascist, they didn't know who John Kelly was.

 . . . yes, they should do more research and then they would understand that John Kelly sits on the board of an investment firm and in turn on the board of multiple companies that make hundreds of millions of dollars a year on illegal immigration and perpetual war 

[Cartierfor3]

Well, Dax you and I can agree on that if there is less war and violence worldwide that would be very good. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Well, Dax you and I can agree on that if there is less war and violence worldwide that would be very good. 

You should also agree with me that the US populace needs to be less headline and political propaganda driven, an impossible task I know, but we can certainly try.

John Kelly is simply a cog in the government grift complex who is concerned that a Trump presidency could spell potential financial challenges for the entities his company invests in.

[Stupid Fitz]

Well, Dax you and I can agree on that if there is less war and violence worldwide that would be very good. 

You should also agree with me that the US populace needs to be less headline and political propaganda driven, an impossible task I know, but we can certainly try.

John Kelly is simply a cog in the government grift complex who is concerned that a Trump presidency could spell potential financial challenges for the entities his company invests in.

So he's basically the previous Trump admins Elon?