2024 Presidential Race

[Kat Kid]

Let’s just try to not assassinate presidential candidates imo.  We’ve done a relatively decent job of that, historically.

considering we have only had 45 different presidents and 4 got killed in office, one was wounded in office and there are plenty more attempts, it is definitely the most dangerous job in the US.

[steve dave]

Attacks on news outlets (CNN, NY Times etc), attacks on state capitols, stuff like that. Maybe I'm wrong but I could see it happening.

I think all that stuff is much more likely if he is alive and loses the election.

Agreed here


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Stevesie60]

Attacks on news outlets (CNN, NY Times etc), attacks on state capitols, stuff like that. Maybe I'm wrong but I could see it happening.

I think all that stuff is much more likely if he is alive and loses the election.

I hadn't thought about this but you're absolutely right.

[CNS]

Attacks on news outlets (CNN, NY Times etc), attacks on state capitols, stuff like that. Maybe I'm wrong but I could see it happening.

"It's part of life now" 

"We're going to have to get over it"

[DQ12]

Maybe not but in the short term it will be very bad

it is literally their own shooting at him.  Who are they going to try and fight?

Hot take: I don't think the guy who was trying to kill Trump yesterday was much of a Trump fan. 

[Dugout DickStone]

Maybe not but in the short term it will be very bad

it is literally their own shooting at him.  Who are they going to try and fight?

Hot take: I don't think the guy who was trying to kill Trump yesterday was much of a Trump fan.

clearly not but he voted for trump so he was at one point.  disgruntled magas seem to be crazy dangerous.

[DQ12]

Maybe not but in the short term it will be very bad

it is literally their own shooting at him.  Who are they going to try and fight?

Hot take: I don't think the guy who was trying to kill Trump yesterday was much of a Trump fan.

clearly not but he voted for trump so he was at one point.  disgruntled magas seem to be crazy dangerous.

I think in this case it's probably more accurate to characterize him as a disgruntled Ukraine advocate.  It looks like that was his main obsession.

[Stupid Fitz]

I know polls are mostly stupid but one came out today showing Harris well behind where Biden was in 2020. I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I still just don't get it. Basically half of voters would rather burn the whole rough ridin' thing down and support a criminal. It's really sad.

[Dugout DickStone]

Maybe not but in the short term it will be very bad

it is literally their own shooting at him.  Who are they going to try and fight?

Hot take: I don't think the guy who was trying to kill Trump yesterday was much of a Trump fan.

clearly not but he voted for trump so he was at one point.  disgruntled magas seem to be crazy dangerous.

I think in this case it's probably more accurate to characterize him as a disgruntled Ukraine advocate.  It looks like that was his main obsession.

link?

[DQ12]

Maybe not but in the short term it will be very bad

it is literally their own shooting at him.  Who are they going to try and fight?

Hot take: I don't think the guy who was trying to kill Trump yesterday was much of a Trump fan.

clearly not but he voted for trump so he was at one point.  disgruntled magas seem to be crazy dangerous.

I think in this case it's probably more accurate to characterize him as a disgruntled Ukraine advocate.  It looks like that was his main obsession.

link?

What were his ‘delusional ideas’ on Ukraine?
Ukraine’s defense against Russia’s 2022 invasion also became central to Routh’s philosophy; he expressed support for Ukraine in dozens of X posts that year, saying he was willing to die in the fight and that “we need to burn the Kremlin to the ground.”

He also visited Ukraine in 2022, according to video and photos geolocated by CNN and interviews he gave to international media during his time there. In a flurry of Facebook posts last year, he tried to enlist Afghan conscripts to fight in the war, presenting himself as an off-the-books liaison for the Ukrainian government.

A representative from Ukraine’s foreign legion confirmed with CNN that Routh had contacted them several times but said he was never part of the military unit in which overseas volunteers fight.

Oleksandr Shaguri, an officer of the Foreigners Coordination Department of the Land Forces Command, told CNN over the phone that “the best way to describe his messages is – delusional ideas.”

“He was offering us large numbers of recruits from different countries but it was obvious to us his offers were not realistic. We didn’t even answer, there was nothing to answer to. He was never part of the Legion and didn’t cooperate with us in any way.”

Newsweek Romania journalist Remus Cernea first met Routh in Kyiv’s Independence Square in June 2022, where the American was rallying people to join the foreign legion or to help Ukraine through various humanitarian aid organizations.

“For me, it’s a surprise because I viewed him as an idealistic innocent genuine person, without any murderous instinct,” Cernea told CNN following news of Routh’s detention in the United States.

According to Cernea, Routh described Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as a “black and white… good versus evil” conflict.

In an interview with AFP news agency from Kyiv in April 2022, Routh said: “Putin is a terrorist, and he needs to be ended, so we need everybody from around the globe to stop what they’re doing and come here now and support the Ukrainians to end this war.”

He also weighed in on the political situations in Afghanistan, Taiwan and North Korea in his book. Routh has repeatedly voiced support for Taiwan and previously called for international intervention to protect the island against potential Chinese encroachment.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/us/ryan-routh-trump-what-we-know-intl-hnk/index.html

[Dugout DickStone]

well, there it is.  I had seen the Ukraine stuff but assumed it was maga

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think a better question is how this guy was able to buy an AK-47 with a scope on it after his previous run-in with the law where he barricaded himself into his business with a machine gun.

[sys]

I’m not running for Jesus’ job or anything, but I have always been of the opinion that one should choose a political policy that they deem to be morally superior.  Is this what we are supposed to do?

i think you should generally assume that people with different political opinions than yours arrived at those opinions because they have made different assumptions about what would be good for the country or the world, or have different preferences or priorities rather than assuming that they are evil.

i think that's the crux of it, but there's also a tendency to embue some political questions with a moral weight that is not readily obvious.

[Dugout DickStone]

I think a better question is how this guy was able to buy an AK-47 with a scope on it after his previous run-in with the law where he barricaded himself into his business with a machine gun.

must be part of a well regulated militia right?

[bucket]

I think a better question is how this guy was able to buy an AK-47 with a scope on it after his previous run-in with the law where he barricaded himself into his business with a machine gun.

I was wondering the same thing.

"The serial number on the SKS-style rifle was obliterated and unreadable"

I guess they can still get that information out of him, though.

[michigancat]

"no way he is a Republican, he's pro-democracy"

https://x.com/Anon40411/status/1835474077890277685

[wetwillie]

I think a better question is how this guy was able to buy an AK-47 with a scope on it after his previous run-in with the law where he barricaded himself into his business with a machine gun.

I was wondering the same thing.

"The serial number on the SKS-style rifle was obliterated and unreadable"

I guess they can still get that information out of him, though.

I don't get putting a scope on an AK47.  I guess the guy wasn't all there anyway so maybe a moot point.

[Dugout DickStone]

He is a gun nut who has only voted republican.  not sure how he isn't a republican

[sys]

i don't know if we know how he voted, but he has tweeted positively and donated money to a variety of dem politicians.  he appears to be a swing voter.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I get the sense that he identifies the candidate he most wants to kill, then throws all of his support behind the other candidate and looks for opportunities.

[steve dave]

he looks (and acts?) like weird robert

[DQ12]

He is a gun nut who has only voted republican.  not sure how he isn't a republican

Well, for starters, I don't know many republicans who have made dozens of donations to ActBlue.

he looks (and acts?) like weird robert

Yes.  Weird Robert+Gary Buseyish.

[Dugout DickStone]

He is a gun nut who has only voted republican.  not sure how he isn't a republican

Well, for starters, I don't know many republicans who have made dozens of donations to ActBlue.

he looks (and acts?) like weird robert

Yes.  Weird Robert+Gary Buseyish.

I have.  I am republican

[steve dave]

looking like weird robert or gary busey should make it illegal to own a gun

[Dugout DickStone]

looking like weird robert or gary busey should make it illegal to own a gun

we can common ground this bish