2024 Presidential Race

[sonofdaxjones]

For morons (Dax?)

https://twitter.com/noahpinion/status/1753724446966526010?s=46&t=odWzhuZU7P443NcVwlC1iQ


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The inability for people like SD to differentiate between the acceleration of part time job growth, the massive increase in multi job holders, and the sharp decline in full time job holders is absolutely amazing, but yet also onbrand in every way.

Not to mention the fact that massive government (deficit) spending is the only thing keeping the economy out of recession and that government hiring is bolstering job numbers.

The Fed, possibly for the first time ever, is losing billions of dollars as well.


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[sonofdaxjones]

Full time employment dropped by 1.7 million from Nov 2023 to March 2024

Great economy, tho


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Dax, if you want to attack Biden’s admin the economy is for rough ridin' sure not the place to do it. lmao


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But you  brought up the economy in this thread you giant derp.


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[sonofdaxjones]

Seems perfectly normal

"We’re all finding out by tweet. None of us understand what’s happening.” The same was true in Delaware, Biden’s home state. “I don’t think a soul in Delaware knew,” said a Biden campaign official.


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[Pete]

Let’s talk about Trump’s proposed “universal baseline tariff” of 10% on all imports.

I asked Elon Musk’s AI, Grok, (in regular mode) and here is its answer

The expected benefits and costs of Trump's proposed universal baseline tariff are as follows:

### Benefits:

1. **Increased Revenue**: The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that a 10% universal baseline tariff could generate approximately $2.5 trillion in revenue over the Fiscal Year 2026 to 2035 budget window.

2. **Reduced Debt**: Including interest, the universal baseline tariff could reduce debt in FY 2035 by 7 percentage points of GDP on a conventional basis and by 4 percentage points of GDP when incorporating macroeconomic effects on revenue and output.

3. **Economic Growth**: The CPA Trade Reform suggests that Trump's proposed 10% universal tariff could lead to:
   - Real household incomes increase by $7,000.
   - 3.3 million new jobs created.
   - 3.61% real GDP growth.

### Costs:

1. **Inflationary Pressures**: The White House and other sources warn that the universal baseline tariff would spike inflation and crimp economic growth.

2. **Consumer Costs**: Studies estimate that the cost of tariffs levied in 2018 and the first half of 2019, including both the direct burden and the deadweight loss, amounts to roughly $800 per household.

3. **Trade and Economic Uncertainty**: The proposed tariffs could spark trade wars, increase trade policy uncertainty, and negatively affect investment and hiring decisions of firms, slowing economic activity.

4. **Impact on Manufacturing**: Despite the tariffs, studies suggest that they have not boosted manufacturing employment or output.

5. **Impact on Consumers**: Tariffs could increase the cost of imported goods, potentially leading to higher prices for consumers or reduced profit margins for businesses.

6. **International Relations**: The tariffs could strain relationships with other countries and lead to retaliatory measures.

7. **Unintended Consequences**: There might be other economic, social, or national security costs associated with the tariffs that are not immediately apparent.

Please note that these are the expected benefits and costs based on the provided information and may not reflect the actual outcomes if such a policy were to be implemented.

The expected impact on inflation from Trump's proposed universal baseline tariff is as follows:

1. **Inflationary Pressures**: The White House and other sources warn that the universal baseline tariff would spike inflation and crimp economic growth.

2. **Consumer Costs**: Studies estimate that the cost of tariffs levied in 2018 and the first half of 2019, including both the direct burden and the deadweight loss, amounts to roughly $800 per household.

3. **Economic Impact**: A CAP Action analysis indicates that Trump's 10% universal tariff plan would spike prices by $1,500 annually on American families.

4. **Tariff Impact**: The Trump campaign referred comment on the inflationary impacts of their trade policy to Bob Lighthizer, who pointed to an estimate showing Trump's 10% universal tariff idea would increase CPI by 3.8 percent over 5 years.

5. **Trade Impact**: A new analysis predicted that Trump's proposed 60% tariff on Chinese imports would drastically slow the world's second-largest economy and send it to the brink of deflation.

6. **Economic Growth**: The CPA Trade Reform suggests that Trump's proposed 10% universal tariff could lead to real household incomes increase by $7,000, 3.3 million new jobs created, and 3.61% real GDP growth.

7. **Policy Impact**: Trump's proposal to impose a "universal baseline tariff" on all goods entering the US would spike inflation and crimp economic growth, says the White House.

8. **Global Impact**: If China retaliates in kind to Trump's proposed tariffs, the economic impact would be harsher, while less severe tariffs would have a smaller effect, according to a note from UBS economists.

9. **Economic Uncertainty**: The proposed tariffs could spark trade wars, increase trade policy uncertainty, and negatively affect investment and hiring decisions of firms, slowing economic activity.

10. **Macroeconomic Effects**: Including interest, the universal baseline tariff could reduce debt in FY 2035 by 7 percentage points of GDP on a conventional basis and by 4 percentage points of GDP when incorporating macroeconomic effects on revenue and output.

These points summarize the expected impact on inflation from Trump's proposed universal baseline tariff based on the provided information.

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/JohnMorganESQ/status/1815098547995545677

[Stevesie60]

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1815093065406898421

How the eff can someone say something this openly racist and have zero backlash? Matt Walsh is someone who most pubs would say represent accurately represent their party, yeah? Or do they consider him an extremist?

[michigancat]

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1815093065406898421

How the eff can someone say something this openly racist and have zero backlash? Matt Walsh is someone who most pubs would say represent accurately represent their party, yeah? Or do they consider him an extremist?

It's pretty much in line with the mainstream republican party. Most of the DEI backlash is more dog-whistley than Walsh's tweet, but most republicans are aligned with the spirit of it.

[kim carnes]

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1815093065406898421

How the eff can someone say something this openly racist and have zero backlash? Matt Walsh is someone who most pubs would say represent accurately represent their party, yeah? Or do they consider him an extremist?

I feel like they were pretty open about it but maybe I’m misremembering

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1815093065406898421

How the eff can someone say something this openly racist and have zero backlash? Matt Walsh is someone who most pubs would say represent accurately represent their party, yeah? Or do they consider him an extremist?

It's pretty much in line with the mainstream republican party. Most of the DEI backlash is more dog-whistley than Walsh's tweet, but most republicans are aligned with the spirit of it.

I'm noting a huge uptick in concern for the sanctity of Democrat votes by the American right over the past 25 hrs.

[DQ12]

I'm noting a huge uptick in concern for the sanctity of Democrat votes by the American right over the past 25 hrs.

Not me.  I think it's great that the Democrats are foregoing the primary process.  We should all do it that way from now on.  This country needs more smoky backroom politics AFAIC. 

[Sandstone Outcropping]

I'm noting a huge uptick in concern for the sanctity of Democrat votes by the American right over the past 25 hrs.

Not me.  I think it's great that the Democrats are foregoing the primary process.  We should all do it that way from now on.  This country needs more smoky backroom politics AFAIC.

Do you also listen to "The Remnant" with Jonah Goldberg? He says this all the time.

[DQ12]

I'm noting a huge uptick in concern for the sanctity of Democrat votes by the American right over the past 25 hrs.

Not me.  I think it's great that the Democrats are foregoing the primary process.  We should all do it that way from now on.  This country needs more smoky backroom politics AFAIC.

Do you also listen to "The Remnant" with Jonah Goldberg? He says this all the time.

No

[CNS]

Primaries are what has driven both sides so far to the fringes.  If smoky backrooms get us more moderate, I might be willing to listen. 

[MakeItRain]

Primaries are what has driven both sides so far to the fringes.  If smoky backrooms get us more moderate, I might be willing to listen.

Only one party has moved away from the middle and that party has only made that move post 2016. The Republican party and their policy positions were nothing like this, particularly socially, when Dubya was in office. He wasn't calling for mass deportation, wasn't actively looking to overturn Roe, not looking to overturn no fault divorce. They didn't propose elimination the department of education, epa, irs, and other cabinets, departments, and agencies. I could go on an on without even mentioning further movement to the extreme by project 2025.

Since Clinton/Bush/Obama have the dems moved left on anything other than gay rights?

[sonofdaxjones]

The left moving fascistic:

-Censorship
-Embracing once hated alphabet agencies (as long as they're going after perceived political enemies, and making the cause for perpetual war )
-Welcoming the anti-Trump neocons with open arms

The Left moving farther left:
-Violent marches based on domestic happenings - mostly in generational #blueanon strongholds, expected to ratchet back up again if Trump is elected
-Sexing up the kids
-Welcoming gender mutilation of minors
-Using the fabric of unelected bureaucracy to weave in far left policies (On the state legislative level - the California legislature, for example, and Newsom have gone completely off the rails)
-Ridiculous open borders policies that play straight into the hands of cartels and traffickers. Made even more weird considering that the sitting President called open borders an evil rich Republican plot a decade and half ago and vowing to nip it in the bud
-Using absolutely insane conspiracy theories and huge disinformation campaigns to whip up the #blueanon masses
-The perplexing observation of #blueanon screaming for women's rights, while telling female athletes to piss off and shut up if they have to compete against a dude

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[MakeItRain]

The left moving fascistic:

-Censorship
-Embracing once hated alphabet agencies (as long as they're going after perceived political enemies )
-Welcoming the anti-Trump neocons with open arms

The Left moving farther left:
-Violent marches based on domestic happenings - mostly in generational #blueanon strongholds, expected to ratchet back up again if Trump is elected
-Sexing up the kids
-Welcoming gender mutilation of minors
-Using the fabric of unelected bureaucracy to weave in far left policies (On the state level - the California legislature and Newsom have gone completely off the rails)
-Ridiculous open borders policies that play straight into the hands of cartels and traffickers. Made even more weird considering that the sitting President called open borders an evil rich Republican plot a decade and half ago and vowing to nip it in the bud
-Using absolutely insane conspiracy theories and huge disinformation campaigns to whip up the #blueanon masses
-The perplexing observation of #blueanon screaming for women's rights, while telling female athletes to piss off and shut up if they have to compete against a dude

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When you find that server space maybe add some actual policy positions on here instead of message board and social media talking points. Not a single thing you listed represents a policy position, some of the things you mention on here are either completely fabricated or things that happened far before your cult leader told you they were bad. Even if "welcoming gender mutilation of minors" were a policy position, it happened under Bush/Obama and Trump for that matter. The question was about policy positions that moved left, not things the cult doesn't like, either made up or real.

[Skipper44]

Primaries are what has driven both sides so far to the fringes.  If smoky backrooms get us more moderate, I might be willing to listen.

Only one party has moved away from the middle and that party has only made that move post 2016. The Republican party and their policy positions were nothing like this, particularly socially, when Dubya was in office. He wasn't calling for mass deportation, wasn't actively looking to overturn Roe, not looking to overturn no fault divorce. They didn't propose elimination the department of education, epa, irs, and other cabinets, departments, and agencies. I could go on an on without even mentioning further movement to the extreme by project 2025.

Since Clinton/Bush/Obama have the dems moved left on anything other than gay rights?

you are correct that the GOP at the top was not extremist until Trump but at sizeable portion of the local party in KS has been crazy for decades. 

[sonofdaxjones]

The left moving fascistic:

-Censorship
-Embracing once hated alphabet agencies (as long as they're going after perceived political enemies )
-Welcoming the anti-Trump neocons with open arms

The Left moving farther left:
-Violent marches based on domestic happenings - mostly in generational #blueanon strongholds, expected to ratchet back up again if Trump is elected
-Sexing up the kids
-Welcoming gender mutilation of minors
-Using the fabric of unelected bureaucracy to weave in far left policies (On the state level - the California legislature and Newsom have gone completely off the rails)
-Ridiculous open borders policies that play straight into the hands of cartels and traffickers. Made even more weird considering that the sitting President called open borders an evil rich Republican plot a decade and half ago and vowing to nip it in the bud
-Using absolutely insane conspiracy theories and huge disinformation campaigns to whip up the #blueanon masses
-The perplexing observation of #blueanon screaming for women's rights, while telling female athletes to piss off and shut up if they have to compete against a dude

(more server space will be needed)

When you find that server space maybe add some actual policy positions on here instead of message board and social media talking points. Not a single thing you listed represents a policy position, some of the things you mention on here are either completely fabricated or things that happened far before your cult leader told you they were bad. Even if "welcoming gender mutilation of minors" were a policy position, it happened under Bush/Obama and Trump for that matter. The question was about policy positions that moved left, not things the cult doesn't like, either made up or real.

You have used the words of a think tank and declared them to be "Republican Party Policy Positions".

The rest of your post is absolute deflection. No one cares what W did 20 years again relative to how these policies impact us now..

For example, we can unabashedly say the United States Government under Joe Biden and #blueanon sympathizers prior ratcheted up their censorship effort in the last 5 years. The trail of alphabet agency meetings, contacts and NGO's engaged in that process is extensive and undeniable. Nothing has changed relative to the desire to invoke those policies.  Your DHS dude tried to foist a censorship czar on us several years back.

The lack of control on the border and immigration policy is 1000% under the control of this current administration and keep the border as it is now or worse, is an avowed position of many in the Democratic party who want to see it continue forward into 2024 and beyond. Weird considering some of the elders were once part of the "you can't just jump over a river" junta.

This administration has never met a conflict they didn't fuel, that is policy.

Going after perceived political enemies with alphabet agencies is policy. Using alphabet agencies to protect your own, policy.

Dumbing down gender mutilation with words like "gender affirming care" is a directed policy and bureaucratically driven by this administration.

[star seed 7]

The middle has moved left more than the democrats but Republicans have sprinted far right. Just look at how radicalized dax is and realize he's now a mainstream republican where during Obama he was a fringe nut job.

[sonofdaxjones]

It's very radical when someone talks about the fascistic proclivities and love of war of my political party and its leaders . . . (StalkerBot.7)

I belong to a political movement that once upon a time hated the alphabet agencies, protested against any measures to censor speech and protested against wars . . . we now love the government, love the alphabet agencies (as long as they're on our side) and we welcome #neocons in right and left as long as they say they hate one guy. But we haven't changed at all, tho (Stalkerbot.7)

[sonofdaxjones]

Just BAU kids

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1815224189931909567

[michigancat]

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1815093065406898421

How the eff can someone say something this openly racist and have zero backlash? Matt Walsh is someone who most pubs would say represent accurately represent their party, yeah? Or do they consider him an extremist?

It's pretty much in line with the mainstream republican party. Most of the DEI backlash is more dog-whistley than Walsh's tweet, but most republicans are aligned with the spirit of it.

Did not click the article but the headline is enough...Why do you think he picked Mother Teresa and Oprah and Gandhi?

https://x.com/FoxNews/status/1815460518657720811

[sonofdaxjones]

Tell us why, cRusty

Are you and MIR going to meltdown over every Tweet you don't like?

The best part out all of this, per your movement, no one is allowed to question what is going on. We're all just supposed to sit back and accept that a dude that was proclaimed to be a rocket ship of energy just 3 months back, is now unable to run for President.

How mad are you guys that Joe bowed out on . . . . X/Twitter? Got to be pretty frustrating.

Imagine the sitting POTUS, eligible to run for a 2nd term and then bowing out of the race on . . . social media. Not exactly an LBJ level "I will not seek, nor will I accept" moment.

[sonofdaxjones]

Takes one to know one . . . 

https://twitter.com/realBlagojevich/status/1815066451868295220

[michigancat]

Tell us why, cRusty

Are you and MIR going to meltdown over every Tweet you don't like?

I personally would encourage more republicans to tell us what they REALLY think about Harris. Don't hold back! Own it!