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« Reply #5725 on: January 27, 2023, 12:41:11 PM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!
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« Reply #5726 on: January 27, 2023, 01:00:02 PM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.

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« Reply #5727 on: January 27, 2023, 01:02:17 PM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast. 

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« Reply #5728 on: January 27, 2023, 01:07:37 PM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast.

what website tells you that there is a market for US F-16s?  Like, in what 45+ BMI world is that a thing people believe?

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« Reply #5729 on: January 27, 2023, 02:18:26 PM »
I can't wait to buy me an Abrams off this blackmarket. May pick up a couple HIMARS depending on if I can get a deal.

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« Reply #5730 on: January 27, 2023, 02:50:17 PM »
I can't wait to buy me an Abrams off this blackmarket. May pick up a couple HIMARS depending on if I can get a deal.

Yup.  The US has no way to keep track once it leaves our country

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« Reply #5731 on: January 27, 2023, 02:51:31 PM »
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« Reply #5732 on: January 27, 2023, 03:21:36 PM »
I can't wait to buy me an Abrams off this blackmarket. May pick up a couple HIMARS depending on if I can get a deal.

Yup.  The US has no way to keep track once it leaves our country

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« Reply #5733 on: January 27, 2023, 04:21:52 PM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast.

what website tells you that there is a market for US F-16s?  Like, in what 45+ BMI world is that a thing people believe?

The list of posts consists of discussions about F-16's and Tanks, I was talking about the tanks.  #slowduggin

Also  :lol: :lol: knowing how I've discussed and it's been and it's been documented but entities like CBS News (browbeatin into taking down their story by the #neocons) about how for months, the U.S. wasn't tracking anything once it hit Ukraine, and they still aren't tracking it very well.  With crap literally being picked up by people in cars and carried off to FSM knows where. 

It's in this blog.


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« Reply #5734 on: January 28, 2023, 07:31:52 AM »

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« Reply #5735 on: January 28, 2023, 08:38:07 AM »
LMAO

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« Reply #5736 on: January 28, 2023, 10:25:44 AM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast.

what website tells you that there is a market for US F-16s?  Like, in what 45+ BMI world is that a thing people believe?

The list of posts consists of discussions about F-16's and Tanks, I was talking about the tanks.  #slowduggin

Also  :lol: :lol: knowing how I've discussed and it's been and it's been documented but entities like CBS News (browbeatin into taking down their story by the #neocons) about how for months, the U.S. wasn't tracking anything once it hit Ukraine, and they still aren't tracking it very well.  With crap literally being picked up by people in cars and carried off to FSM knows where. 

It's in this blog.

I will wager you that not a single tank or F-16 is sold on the black market and used against the US or its allies as a result of these new deployments.  There isn't a dollar amount that I won't take.  Name it.  Money goes to our charity of choice

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« Reply #5737 on: January 28, 2023, 01:22:03 PM »
Good pod with updates about the tanks and F16s plus discussion of Russia embracing shithole nation status:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bulwark-podcast/id1447684472?i=1000596802368
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« Reply #5738 on: January 28, 2023, 08:19:34 PM »
i think we have to admit that putin's partial mobilization more or less worked.  the long-term economic cost of emigrants, cripples and deaths tbd, but russia stabilized their lines and halted ukrainian advances.  it's been a slow deadly slog from there, but i think it's likely that russia losing low-value mobilniks and convicts while ukraine loses higher quality soldiers has been to russia's advantage.
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« Reply #5739 on: January 28, 2023, 08:30:25 PM »
i think we have to admit that putin's partial mobilization more or less worked.  the long-term economic cost of emigrants, cripples and deaths tbd, but russia stabilized their lines and halted ukrainian advances.  it's been a slow deadly slog from there, but i think it's likely that russia losing low-value mobilniks and convicts while ukraine loses higher quality soldiers has been to russia's advantage.

Agreed but it also stimulated the real stuff from the west and they cannot handle that smoke

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« Reply #5740 on: January 29, 2023, 06:28:04 AM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast.

what website tells you that there is a market for US F-16s?  Like, in what 45+ BMI world is that a thing people believe?

The list of posts consists of discussions about F-16's and Tanks, I was talking about the tanks.  #slowduggin

Also  :lol: :lol: knowing how I've discussed and it's been and it's been documented but entities like CBS News (browbeatin into taking down their story by the #neocons) about how for months, the U.S. wasn't tracking anything once it hit Ukraine, and they still aren't tracking it very well.  With crap literally being picked up by people in cars and carried off to FSM knows where. 

It's in this blog.

I will wager you that not a single tank or F-16 is sold on the black market and used against the US or its allies as a result of these new deployments.  There isn't a dollar amount that I won't take.  Name it.  Money goes to our charity of choice
Oh dug you’re just adorable.  I was talking about the tanks and it’s not like they take weapons and just post them on a Craigslist of weapons online.

I don’t know why you get so worked up about the UkroNazi’s.  It’s one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Yet another list of politicians in Ukraine just got busted for corruption. Zekensky himself just openly admitted that BlackRock and Goldman Sachs are going to be heavily involved in Ukraine which means that corruption is going to be even more rampant. 

Like I keep telling you, even Barack Obama openly talked about how Ukraine wasn’t worth it and that’s why he never sent them lethal aid. 

Simple question, why are the Biden’s (and others) so far up Ukraine’s ass?  Why was Joe taking trips there even on his last days as VPOTUS when even the Ukrainian national media was openly asking why TF is this guy here. 
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« Reply #5741 on: January 29, 2023, 08:33:21 AM »
Part of the grift here is that it appears they’re going to manufacture new tanks in order for politicians to keep the M1 line in Ohio operating. 

When there’s literally 1000’s of M1 tanks sitting around including all of the thousands of M1’s the Marines turned over to the Army.

The one time I drove by the Anniston depot about 1.5 miles East of BHAM there were M1’s and Bradley’s stacked up like cordwood

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« Reply #5742 on: January 29, 2023, 08:37:48 AM »
I haven’t followed the war as closely recently, but Putin is considering throwing another 20,000 Russians in to the meat grinder with another “partial deployment.”

I read another report that said that the US really wants Ukraine to take the fight South and force the Russians to defend Crimea. The Ukrainians don’t want to concede Bakhmut and withdraw.

My guess is we will not see much effect from the tanks for awhile so it will be a critical stage this spring and summer.

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« Reply #5743 on: January 29, 2023, 09:01:57 AM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast.

what website tells you that there is a market for US F-16s?  Like, in what 45+ BMI world is that a thing people believe?

The list of posts consists of discussions about F-16's and Tanks, I was talking about the tanks.  #slowduggin

Also  :lol: :lol: knowing how I've discussed and it's been and it's been documented but entities like CBS News (browbeatin into taking down their story by the #neocons) about how for months, the U.S. wasn't tracking anything once it hit Ukraine, and they still aren't tracking it very well.  With crap literally being picked up by people in cars and carried off to FSM knows where. 

It's in this blog.

I will wager you that not a single tank or F-16 is sold on the black market and used against the US or its allies as a result of these new deployments.  There isn't a dollar amount that I won't take.  Name it.  Money goes to our charity of choice
Oh dug you’re just adorable.  I was talking about the tanks and it’s not like they take weapons and just post them on a Craigslist of weapons online.

I don’t know why you get so worked up about the UkroNazi’s.  It’s one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Yet another list of politicians in Ukraine just got busted for corruption. Zekensky himself just openly admitted that BlackRock and Goldman Sachs are going to be heavily involved in Ukraine which means that corruption is going to be even more rampant. 

Like I keep telling you, even Barack Obama openly talked about how Ukraine wasn’t worth it and that’s why he never sent them lethal aid. 

Simple question, why are the Biden’s (and others) so far up Ukraine’s ass?  Why was Joe taking trips there even on his last days as VPOTUS when even the Ukrainian national media was openly asking why TF is this guy here.

So you are scared to take the bet.  should have known

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« Reply #5744 on: January 29, 2023, 09:52:11 AM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast.

what website tells you that there is a market for US F-16s?  Like, in what 45+ BMI world is that a thing people believe?

The list of posts consists of discussions about F-16's and Tanks, I was talking about the tanks.  #slowduggin

Also  :lol: :lol: knowing how I've discussed and it's been and it's been documented but entities like CBS News (browbeatin into taking down their story by the #neocons) about how for months, the U.S. wasn't tracking anything once it hit Ukraine, and they still aren't tracking it very well.  With crap literally being picked up by people in cars and carried off to FSM knows where. 

It's in this blog.

I will wager you that not a single tank or F-16 is sold on the black market and used against the US or its allies as a result of these new deployments.  There isn't a dollar amount that I won't take.  Name it.  Money goes to our charity of choice
Oh dug you’re just adorable.  I was talking about the tanks and it’s not like they take weapons and just post them on a Craigslist of weapons online.

I don’t know why you get so worked up about the UkroNazi’s.  It’s one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Yet another list of politicians in Ukraine just got busted for corruption. Zekensky himself just openly admitted that BlackRock and Goldman Sachs are going to be heavily involved in Ukraine which means that corruption is going to be even more rampant. 

Like I keep telling you, even Barack Obama openly talked about how Ukraine wasn’t worth it and that’s why he never sent them lethal aid. 

Simple question, why are the Biden’s (and others) so far up Ukraine’s ass?  Why was Joe taking trips there even on his last days as VPOTUS when even the Ukrainian national media was openly asking why TF is this guy here.

So you are scared to take the bet.  should have known
I’ll put $100 bucks on the GAO’s final audit of weapons to Ukraine.  They account for all M1’s I’ll donate $100 to the Fatty Fund.

Great job of avoiding discussing the latest $400 million dollar Ukraine grift . . . As expected.

Edit:  Also as expected you didn’t answer my question. 
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« Reply #5745 on: January 29, 2023, 10:03:39 AM »
Dear Ukraine- Your stripped down tanks will be there in 6 to 8 months

(Normal crew training is 5 months with 2 additional months of field stuff).

Bring on the F-16's!!!

Probably not yet.  if the orcs start teaching combat air skills at the convicted pedophile prisons we may dust a few off.
Got to strip them down to lower the value so the UkroGrifters are less inclined to black market TF outta those things to pay for another villa on the Croatian coast.

what website tells you that there is a market for US F-16s?  Like, in what 45+ BMI world is that a thing people believe?

The list of posts consists of discussions about F-16's and Tanks, I was talking about the tanks.  #slowduggin

Also  :lol: :lol: knowing how I've discussed and it's been and it's been documented but entities like CBS News (browbeatin into taking down their story by the #neocons) about how for months, the U.S. wasn't tracking anything once it hit Ukraine, and they still aren't tracking it very well.  With crap literally being picked up by people in cars and carried off to FSM knows where. 

It's in this blog.

I will wager you that not a single tank or F-16 is sold on the black market and used against the US or its allies as a result of these new deployments.  There isn't a dollar amount that I won't take.  Name it.  Money goes to our charity of choice
Oh dug you’re just adorable.  I was talking about the tanks and it’s not like they take weapons and just post them on a Craigslist of weapons online.

I don’t know why you get so worked up about the UkroNazi’s.  It’s one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Yet another list of politicians in Ukraine just got busted for corruption. Zekensky himself just openly admitted that BlackRock and Goldman Sachs are going to be heavily involved in Ukraine which means that corruption is going to be even more rampant. 

Like I keep telling you, even Barack Obama openly talked about how Ukraine wasn’t worth it and that’s why he never sent them lethal aid. 

Simple question, why are the Biden’s (and others) so far up Ukraine’s ass?  Why was Joe taking trips there even on his last days as VPOTUS when even the Ukrainian national media was openly asking why TF is this guy here.

So you are scared to take the bet.  should have known
I’ll put $100 bucks on the GAO’s final audit of weapons to Ukraine.  They account for all M1’s I’ll donate $100 to the Fatty Fund.

Great job of avoiding discussing the latest $400 million dollar Ukraine grift . . . As expected.

That is a stupid bet but since by proposing it you admit any other talking point about tanks being lost to the black market only to be used later against us is for morons and moron adjace I will ACCEPT.  Because that is such a pittance I am not going to get lost in the weeds about how a winner will be determined.  We will have to work on the honor system with the board to decide.

Do you understand what a stipulation is?  It is where someone admits something as an accepted fact so everyone involved can stop crying about that accepted fact because that is not productive.  I feel like there are several things that could be stipulated to so you can't continually be confused at what most of us think about this and other topics.

For example, I would stipulate that there is likely a portion of the equipment we are sending to the Ukraine that will be diverted, sold for profit and possible used for nefarious purposes.  Now this is an accepted fact and can be moved past.

Now I would posit my OPINION that regardless of that accepted fact, sending this aid is worthwhile in numerous respects and also that the stipulated fact has not actually come to any negative fruition in past examples.

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« Reply #5746 on: January 29, 2023, 10:21:18 AM »
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ukraine and Eastern Europe is a notorious black market for weapons.  This is irrefutable fact and is backed by entities like Interpol, who have already said they are still finding weapons from the conflict in the Balkans on the black market even today.

The DOD has an entire acquisition wing that specializes in acquiring non U.S. standard weapons and sending them to various worst people in the world types around the globe.  They source many of those weapons through Eastern Europe and I've documented on this blog their usage of 3rd party transport companies and entities like Bout himself to the end.

The GAO over the years has issued scathing audits of DOD acquisition, inventory and accounting.  In the last 20 years the DOD has literally "lost" billions of dollars worth of hardware and even cash in places like Iraq. 

There was a 4 to 5 month period last summer when the DOD didn't have the first rough ridin' clue where crap was going once it was in Ukraine, they admitted and the #neocons in Congress said in many words they didn't care. 

You want me to bet based on the standard proclamations by the usual sources which is just  :lol: :lol:

You won't discuss why Joe Biden's and the Biden's are all up Ukraine's ass, and you don't want to discuss the latest $400 million dollar plus grift on M1's when we literally have 1000's of the things just sitting around gathering dust right now.

As I type this the British Defense Ministry is making plans on how to handle if Challengers fall into the wrong hands.  Also of note, the British only have 60 battle ready Challengers right now . . .  which only affirms that lazy ass Europe/NATO members just lay on the comfy hammock of U.S. military protection which will cost over a trillion dollars this year alone once you add in all the non budgeted items for the UkroGrifters and beyond.


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« Reply #5747 on: January 29, 2023, 11:42:36 AM »
You want me to bet based on the standard proclamations by the usual sources
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #5748 on: January 29, 2023, 11:53:09 AM »
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ukraine and Eastern Europe is a notorious black market for weapons.  This is irrefutable fact and is backed by entities like Interpol, who have already said they are still finding weapons from the conflict in the Balkans on the black market even today.

The DOD has an entire acquisition wing that specializes in acquiring non U.S. standard weapons and sending them to various worst people in the world types around the globe.  They source many of those weapons through Eastern Europe and I've documented on this blog their usage of 3rd party transport companies and entities like Bout himself to the end.

The GAO over the years has issued scathing audits of DOD acquisition, inventory and accounting.  In the last 20 years the DOD has literally "lost" billions of dollars worth of hardware and even cash in places like Iraq. 

There was a 4 to 5 month period last summer when the DOD didn't have the first rough ridin' clue where crap was going once it was in Ukraine, they admitted and the #neocons in Congress said in many words they didn't care. 

You want me to bet based on the standard proclamations by the usual sources which is just  :lol: :lol:

You won't discuss why Joe Biden's and the Biden's are all up Ukraine's ass, and you don't want to discuss the latest $400 million dollar plus grift on M1's when we literally have 1000's of the things just sitting around gathering dust right now.

As I type this the British Defense Ministry is making plans on how to handle if Challengers fall into the wrong hands.  Also of note, the British only have 60 battle ready Challengers right now . . .  which only affirms that lazy ass Europe/NATO members just lay on the comfy hammock of U.S. military protection which will cost over a trillion dollars this year alone once you add in all the non budgeted items for the UkroGrifters and beyond.

Stipulated that oversight has been crap and that part of the globe, like literally every other place on the globe has unscrupulous criminals who will seek to steal high value items and sell.  We can move on.

Stipulated that the DOD also suffers from failings and definitely when caught off guard.  Biden was predicting the orc invasion/air conditioner blitzkreig years ago and they didn't set up the process to be ready when we did send arms in.  I tend to trust (maybe too much) our service men and women.  They will hopefully button down.  Regardless, this isn't time to be spineless/weak and try and give the groomers vast swaths of a sovereign nation.  they are falling upon the women and killing babies.

Also stipulated that a military develops contingency pans for literally everything ever.  I know the military is confusing to you but trust me, the US military has contingency plans for lizard men emerging from within the earth.  Planning to remotely shut down armaments that might be compromised is, uh, really really not surprising.

We are getting somewhere with these stipulations!  I feel like you are stepping outside of your comfort zone and really embracing new concepts.

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« Reply #5749 on: January 29, 2023, 02:05:49 PM »
did not anticipate that dax would be mad we’re not sending the fancy depleted uranium non-export armor m1s to the UkroNazi black hole