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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4900 on: November 03, 2022, 01:02:37 PM »
the path for russia to still win is pretty straightforward.

https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1588129623161839617
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4901 on: November 03, 2022, 01:18:13 PM »
They are as easily led as a dog on a leash at Westminster

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4902 on: November 03, 2022, 01:28:08 PM »
Is Tucker Carlson the most influential man in America?
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4903 on: November 03, 2022, 01:33:37 PM »
Is Tucker Carlson the most influential man in America?

He's second to Trump. He could get the republican nomination for president after Trump dies.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4904 on: November 03, 2022, 04:30:16 PM »
It's like if a an autocrat is hurt, it hurts them too.  :cry:

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4905 on: November 03, 2022, 06:41:56 PM »
Dax has always been a stalking horse for pub talking points.

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« Reply #4906 on: November 03, 2022, 06:43:44 PM »
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4907 on: November 03, 2022, 06:48:11 PM »
Is Tucker Carlson the most influential man in America?


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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4908 on: November 03, 2022, 06:49:49 PM »
I'd still eff that M&M, but I don't speak for all red-blooded Americans.
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4910 on: November 04, 2022, 07:58:16 AM »
It's likely only going to get worse

https://www.statista.com/chart/28652/share-of-people-in-energy-poverty-in-europe/

The Biden Administration - Wrecking Europe and #neocons/#neocongE love every second of it . . .


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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4911 on: November 04, 2022, 09:13:33 AM »
agreed we should support ukraine more so they can finish this thing off.


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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4913 on: November 04, 2022, 09:24:59 AM »
Where do the dollars originate from? I assume it’s from the military budget which has already been approved by Congress for this fiscal year.  If republicans take the house this go around I could see the next budget iteration cutting off Ukraine.
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« Reply #4914 on: November 04, 2022, 09:27:23 AM »
Where do the dollars originate from? I assume it’s from the military budget which has already been approved by Congress for this fiscal year.  If republicans take the house this go around I could see the next budget iteration cutting off Ukraine.

It is really just the maga crap birds.  Normal pubs have been pro-ukraine forever

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4915 on: November 04, 2022, 09:28:15 AM »
Where do the dollars originate from? I assume it’s from the military budget which has already been approved by Congress for this fiscal year.  If republicans take the house this go around I could see the next budget iteration cutting off Ukraine.

It is really just the maga crap birds.  Normal pubs have been pro-ukraine forever

The maga crap birds are the party's thought leaders.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4916 on: November 04, 2022, 09:36:58 AM »
Where do the dollars originate from? I assume it’s from the military budget which has already been approved by Congress for this fiscal year.  If republicans take the house this go around I could see the next budget iteration cutting off Ukraine.

It is really just the maga crap birds.  Normal pubs have been pro-ukraine forever

The maga crap birds are the party's thought leaders.

very unfortunate.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4917 on: November 04, 2022, 10:04:00 AM »
Where do the dollars originate from? I assume it’s from the military budget which has already been approved by Congress for this fiscal year.  If republicans take the house this go around I could see the next budget iteration cutting off Ukraine.

It is really just the maga crap birds.  Normal pubs have been pro-ukraine forever

The maga crap birds are the party's thought leaders.
This is true. Mitch McConnell and Jerry Moran are the only "establishment" Republicans left alive.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4918 on: November 04, 2022, 10:30:24 AM »
Neo-Libs/Neocons . . . birds of feather.

Once upon a time the long lost Prog-Libs would have had a triple decker crap fit at the amount of money we're sending Ukraine.  That movement is long dead, even the pretenders are just a parody at this point.

Barry publicly didn't want anything to do with those mega corrupt turds littered with neo-nazi's and ultra-nationalists.  Sadly, he let the CIA/DOD and Biden., McCain and Graham and elements in the State Department keep right on training them and supporting them.


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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4919 on: November 04, 2022, 10:48:51 AM »
Neo-Libs/Neocons . . . birds of feather.

Once upon a time the long lost Prog-Libs would have had a triple decker crap fit at the amount of money we're sending Ukraine.  That movement is long dead, even the pretenders are just a parody at this point.

Barry publicly didn't want anything to do with those mega corrupt turds littered with neo-nazi's and ultra-nationalists.  Sadly, he let the CIA/DOD and Biden., McCain and Graham and elements in the State Department keep right on training them and supporting them.

judging by the results, they are doing a great job at this

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4921 on: November 04, 2022, 02:23:14 PM »
Where do the dollars originate from? I assume it’s from the military budget which has already been approved by Congress for this fiscal year.  If republicans take the house this go around I could see the next budget iteration cutting off Ukraine.

congress has to appropriate money for us to be able to give aid to ukraine.  in most cases, that money is then given to the dept of defense and the dept of defense transfers weapons deemed to be worth that amount to ukraine.  the money allocated also has to pay for the transport and any refurbishing of the weapons.  and i'm pretty sure any non-materiel assistance we deliver like satellite intel is also charged to aid packages.

the weapons given are a mix of old stuff that we probably would never use again anyways and new stuff that is in active production.  in the former case, the actual value of that equipment to our military is almost quite a bit less than the paper value they realize when congress gives them money to send it to ukraine.


we also sometimes give ukraine money to purchase weapons themselves or pay other countries to deliver weapons to ukraine (like today it was announced that holland and the u.s. are going 50:50 on funds to help the czech republic refurbish and donate some old soviet tanks they have kicking around).  but i think those allocations are much smaller than what we send directly.


we've only sent like 18.9 billion in military aid.  it's not very much money.
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4922 on: November 04, 2022, 02:30:19 PM »
another neat recent video.  the hits on the vehicles have to be precision guided.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1588496002373521409
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4923 on: November 04, 2022, 02:35:44 PM »
the number of russian kia reported by ukraine this last week is sorta astounding given that there aren't, afaik, any significant offensives being undertaken by either side.

i think i was wrong about there not being any significant new offensives.  as best as i can tell, it seems like russians have probably been attacking around bahkmut and donetsk more intensely than they were before last week.

https://twitter.com/CinC_AFU/status/1588255352394391552

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4924 on: November 04, 2022, 02:42:38 PM »
Where do the dollars originate from? I assume it’s from the military budget which has already been approved by Congress for this fiscal year.  If republicans take the house this go around I could see the next budget iteration cutting off Ukraine.

congress has to appropriate money for us to be able to give aid to ukraine.  in most cases, that money is then given to the dept of defense and the dept of defense transfers weapons deemed to be worth that amount to ukraine.  the money allocated also has to pay for the transport and any refurbishing of the weapons.  and i'm pretty sure any non-materiel assistance we deliver like satellite intel is also charged to aid packages.

the weapons given are a mix of old stuff that we probably would never use again anyways and new stuff that is in active production.  in the former case, the actual value of that equipment to our military is almost quite a bit less than the paper value they realize when congress gives them money to send it to ukraine.


we also sometimes give ukraine money to purchase weapons themselves or pay other countries to deliver weapons to ukraine (like today it was announced that holland and the u.s. are going 50:50 on funds to help the czech republic refurbish and donate some old soviet tanks they have kicking around).  but i think those allocations are much smaller than what we send directly.


we've only sent like 18.9 billion in military aid.  it's not very much money.
Very good investment of US military $$.

Supporting an ally, strengthening NATO ties and totally wrecking Russia's military / exposing Russia's conventional forces as a paper tiger (which will weaken their future efforts to bully and intimidate their neighbors in Eastern Europe).