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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4175 on: September 28, 2022, 04:44:09 PM »
Friendly reminder that peace was a legitimate option in April, but squelched by Boris Johnson/US.
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4176 on: September 28, 2022, 04:45:36 PM »
Friendly reminder that Russia can stop this war at any time
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4177 on: September 28, 2022, 04:52:12 PM »
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4178 on: September 28, 2022, 04:56:11 PM »
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4179 on: September 28, 2022, 05:11:24 PM »
Friendly reminder that Russia can stop this war at any time

Yes, they obviously can. It would save countless lives. Unfortnately, it’s unlikely Ukraine and Russia can come to agreeable peace terms in the eyes of the US/NATO — not Russia and Ukraine. I’ve yet to hear a strong argument as to why peace isn’t the No. 1 priority for the US in this conflict.
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4180 on: September 28, 2022, 05:17:36 PM »
What the
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4181 on: September 28, 2022, 05:33:50 PM »
What the

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4182 on: September 28, 2022, 05:36:29 PM »
Nic. Come back. Come back, my dude. We're all here for you. Hugs galore.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4183 on: September 28, 2022, 05:38:59 PM »
Someone please tell me why my statement is unfounded or unreasonable. emojis aren't going to cut it.
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4184 on: September 28, 2022, 05:48:44 PM »
Someone please tell me why my statement is unfounded or unreasonable. emojis aren't going to cut it.

one country and leader has responsibility for starting this invasion of a sovereign nation. and the war on its people could only have been ended by that country and leader or their defeat (seems like Ukraine has decided on doing the later).

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4185 on: September 28, 2022, 05:58:59 PM »
What the

icarus flew too close to the tulsi and his brain melted

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4186 on: September 28, 2022, 05:59:24 PM »
Friendly reminder that peace was a legitimate option in April, but squelched by Boris Johnson/US.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4187 on: September 28, 2022, 05:59:36 PM »
well, technically ukraine could also have ended the war by just immediately surrendering to russia's invasion and letting them overrun their country/people and loot/rape/kill at will.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4188 on: September 28, 2022, 06:02:31 PM »
well, technically ukraine could also have ended the war by just immediately surrendering to russia's invasion and letting them overrun their country/people and loot/rape/kill at will.

it does make sense to me that the two parties at war would have enhanced abilities to end hostilities compared to countries not involved in fighting the war, yeah.
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4189 on: September 28, 2022, 06:06:38 PM »
well, technically ukraine could also have ended the war by just immediately surrendering to russia's invasion and letting them overrun their country/people and loot/rape/kill at will.

it does make sense to me that the two parties at war would have enhanced abilities to end hostilities compared to countries not involved in fighting the war, yeah.


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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4190 on: September 28, 2022, 06:13:16 PM »
My favorite argument in favor of a strong resistance to Russia is the argument that says the world should push back vehemently against regimes that invade other nations…especially when the invader is actively torturing and exterminating civilians and has a long and terrible history of human rights violations.

Put another way, nicname sounds like Neville Chamberlain in 1938 after the Munich agreement, and the free world would prefer to not repeat that portion of history.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4191 on: September 28, 2022, 06:45:42 PM »
Pete, I am also in favor of that.


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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4192 on: September 28, 2022, 07:01:18 PM »
Yeah same
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4193 on: September 28, 2022, 07:03:31 PM »
Someone please tell me why my statement is unfounded or unreasonable. emojis aren't going to cut it.

Ukraine wants its land back and some atonement for the raping torture looting and we get to bleed out the Russian bear without firing a shot.  This is inevitable now

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4194 on: September 28, 2022, 07:08:10 PM »
Someone please tell me why my statement is unfounded or unreasonable. emojis aren't going to cut it.

Ukraine wants its land back and some atonement for the raping torture looting and we get to bleed out the Russian bear without firing a shot.  This is inevitable now
Win win in my book

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4195 on: September 28, 2022, 07:13:50 PM »
My favorite argument in favor of a strong resistance to Russia is the argument that says the world should push back vehemently against regimes that invade other nations…especially when the invader is actively torturing and exterminating civilians and has a long and terrible history of human rights violations.

Put another way, nicname sounds like Neville Chamberlain in 1938 after the Munich agreement, and the free world would prefer to not repeat that portion of history.
The best counter to my argument is “why don’t we do that for all the invaded African, South American, and Asian counties?   IMO, the answer is that if we had infinite resources, then we should do that help every invaded country. Obviously we don’t. So we pick the most impactful places to use our resources, and places that are meaningful to our country and other free democratic societies.

Just because we cannot do it for everyone, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it for some. This isn’t 1st grade treats.

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« Reply #4196 on: September 28, 2022, 07:15:04 PM »
I'm not absolving Russia/Putin of responsibility. If Russia never invaded Ukraine. That said, there are a number of other factors that have lead to this conflict, and other actors that could have, and could still work to foster peace in the region. Yet here we are with the US as a co-belligerent in what essentially started out as a border dispute in a region where nations (people) have often not matched the official borders for one reason or another.

I'm of the opinion that the billions upon billions of US dollars used in this conflict could have been better used at home with the US brokering a peace between the Russians and Ukrainians.

There would be fewer dead Ukrainians, Russians both fighting men and civilians. We wouldn't be exhilarating the inflation of our dollar. We would be farther from nuclear conflict. Yet, here we are with billions wasted, countless deaths and the explicit threat of nuclear strikes.

How long will we continue to pour billions of dollars and countless arms into this conflict? How many have to die? And what for?

So one set of leaders has a more preferred border situation than the other? That's not worth it to me.




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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #4197 on: September 28, 2022, 07:18:18 PM »
Oh, now it’s a cost issue. lmao


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« Reply #4198 on: September 28, 2022, 07:19:24 PM »
Someone please tell me why my statement is unfounded or unreasonable. emojis aren't going to cut it.

Ukraine wants its land back and some atonement for the raping torture looting and we get to bleed out the Russian bear without firing a shot.  This is inevitable now

This is a valid argument, though one I don't agree with. The deaths of countless soldiers, many of whom will undoubtedly be conscripted, as well as more and more civilians just isn't worth it for me.

What's the appropriate amount of death and destruction for you Pete?
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« Reply #4199 on: September 28, 2022, 07:20:03 PM »
Oh, now it’s a cost issue. lmao


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It's absolutely part of it. Far less than human death and destruction.
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.