Possible WW3 thread

[sonofdaxjones]

The alleged leader of the free world ladies and gentleman . . .

https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1507405803443077135?s=20&t=0FQFVJV5I2rDM38a2uZMWA

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/AlexandruC4/status/1507473089952718851

[catastrophe]

Absolutely awful what the US & Ukraine are putting these people through.

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/AlexandruC4/status/1507473089952718851

Crazy story. People started noticing he went missing and asking questions. Then, a couple days ago, he was out of the blue spotted on video during call with Putin and others. But his video feed didn't look like it was live and looked like it was maybe video from a previous call. Now, "heart attack."

[Cire]

His heart was attacked by poison


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[sonofdaxjones]

I know #neoconGe is all chubbed up about this war and completely enjoying the death and destruction in Ukraine while swallowing every ounce of propaganda they can handle, while NGAF about the indiscriminate transfer of weapons into the most corrupt country on the planet.

We are also finding out that thankfully the mentally incapacitated old man who poses as our President has enough good sense to listen to the Pentagon and not the arm chair NeoCons he has in the state department or as his NSA (a war loving Clintonite).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-bombers-could-devastate-ukraine-but-he-s-holding-back-here-s-why/ar-AAVnuAJ?ocid=EMMX

‘I know it’s hard … to swallow that the carnage and destruction could be much worse than it is,’ says the DIA analyst. ‘But that’s what the facts show. This suggests to me, at least, that Putin is not intentionally attacking civilians, that perhaps he is mindful that he needs to limit damage in order to leave an out for negotiations.'”


“The heart of Kyiv has barely been touched. And almost all of the long-range strikes have been aimed at military targets.”

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/Greg_Palast/status/1506302164301332487?s=20&t=fidIzw_6VFzPztAbpuc7hw

[Dugout DickStone]

Time to surrender Vlad.  You have just humiliated yourself and murdered too many children

[CNS]

It’s fascinating that we are witnessing the possible end of things like tanks and heavy vehicles being vital to military might. This war could be a huge teachable moment for all the major military powers and may cause large retooling of forces away from such things. They could be nearly instantly flipped from a huge advantage to something that is a negative.  That could be a huge leveling event for some of the world’s militaries. It’s interesting

[Dugout DickStone]

It’s fascinating that we are witnessing the possible end of things like tanks and heavy vehicles being vital to military might. This war could be a huge teachable moment for all the major military powers and may cause large retooling of forces away from such things. They could be nearly instantly flipped from a huge advantage to something that is a negative.  That could be a huge leveling event for some of the world’s militaries. It’s interesting

Leave it to the Russians to taze themselves into changing warfare.  What absolute orcs

[Dugout DickStone]

They screwed up nuclear power and now this.

Losers

[sonofdaxjones]

I was just at Ft. Benning a couple of weeks ago.   Tanks aren't going anywhere.

Sadly, our military-industrial complex has managed to convince a bunch of derps for decades that the United States is always just a half a step out in front of everyone else and so that means the US has to spend-spend-spend.     In the 80's the DOD used to publish these magnificent full color guides which outlined all of the Soviet Union's weapons systems and compared them to what the U.S. had and they would always over embellish the capabilities of the Soviets in order to keep the defense spending up. 

That said, I've seen several videos of Russian hypersonic missiles in action, and we better figure out how to defend that very quickly.

[sys]

not to ignore the (often very interesting) points that have been made about corruption, technological limitations under mafia rule, the need for nco's in a professional army, the importance of tire maintenance and the like, but i think most of the russian army's poor performance probably comes down to this.  russia is a poor country that has tried to maintain a military it could not afford.  cutting corners was probably inevitable.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1507688340069527552

[sys]

which, at least to me, leads back to one of the most glaring deficiencies in mearsheimer's analysis.  it postulates that the world should accede to russian demands without even testing whether russia has any capacity to enforce those demands.

[steve dave]

we may complain a lot about our massive military budget but when it's dick swinging time you pull your dick out.

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1507817666601435138

metaphorically. if we literally did it could be a provocation.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1507817666601435138

metaphorically. if we literally did it could be a provocation.

there you go again, trying to start ww3...

[Kat Kid]

which, at least to me, leads back to one of the most glaring deficiencies in mearsheimer's analysis.  it postulates that the world should accede to russian demands without even testing whether russia has any capacity to enforce those demands.

What does this mean? If you think we should go to war here you should declare that. If not then what do you think should be done differently.

[sys]

i thought it was clear from what has been posted here re. mearsheimer that he thinks ukraine's allies should have not led it to believe that they had any chance of joining the nato, the eu or of turning towards "europe" more generally and that he currently does not think that they should aid it in resisting russia's attempt to conquer them.

i disagree with all of those things.

[wetwillie]

So call russias bluff because they wont use a nuke?

[sys]

So call russias bluff because they wont use a nuke?

not sure i understand this question.


we have done/are doing all those things and they haven't nuked us yet.

[catastrophe]

Nukes are a great deterrent for being invaded. But in this situation it makes just as much sense to nuke a country for helping resist an invasion as it does to nuke a country imposing sanctions or hell even tariffs. Putin can’t be just Karen-ing around the Eastern hemisphere demanding free stuff because he has nukes.

I think the “bluff” sys is referencing is that resistance is futile and will only result in suffering. Ukraine’s resistance so far has definitely not been futile.

[steve dave]

Putin is looking bloated and bald and sickly as crap. I wouldn’t put it past the butcher to throw a nuke out there for spite as he fades to black. Autocracy’s are scary as crap without people saying no. Thank god a required amount of our military and intelligence was able to tell trump to eff right off about most things.

[sonofdaxjones]

LMAO

Steve Dave Uber NeoCon is so pissed Trump didn’t invade anybody.

[sonofdaxjones]

BTW, the US is the only country in history to nuke another country and internally talked about using nukes in Korea and Vietnam.