Possible oscar Weber Replacements Thread

[DQ12]

I don’t really think it’s oscar’s fault that people aren’t showing up.  At least not if he’s winning at an acceptable rate.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don’t really think it’s oscar’s fault that people aren’t showing up.  At least not if he’s winning at an acceptable rate.

I think people tuned in at the start of the season, figured we would finish last in the Big 12, and don't even check the scores to see that we actually aren't last, but are a middling team in the bottom half of the standings.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Y'all might think I'm crazy but even if he makes the tournament I'm still not sure he's safe. This program has zero buzz, tickets went tonight for $6. There's no one going to these games and that matters to Gene. I think he still retires Bill in '18 even if he beats Iowa State and I don't know if oscar is out of the woods.

I agree. Its a bummer to see so many empty seats but that doesn't happen in a vacuum, that's a result of several consecutive years middling and generally non-competitive, non-entertaining basketball that can't even get us an NIT bid. When we started conference play 0-4 everyone was comfortable with the idea of oscar being gone at the end of the season but even in the last page of this thread i'm seeing stunted fall into the trap of what so many of our fans do where we try to find some silver lining and some reason to be optimistic about next year and basically what that means is we MIGHT be semi-competitive as long as a lot of pieces fall exactly into place and ofcourse, not every single one of those pieces fall into place and we are right back where we were.

Aside from a deep run in the NCAA tourney (as in Elite 8 or better) i think its very reasonable that oscar is not out of the woods. Even with the E8 season 4 years ago, its been a coach who has been to the tournament about 50% of the time, and only 1 of those times made it out of the round of 64. If that resume is acceptable, then yeah we should expect to see the place 3/4 empty. If we expect better attendance then we are going to need to expect better from a head coach. 

[catastrophe]

I don’t really think it’s oscar’s fault that people aren’t showing up.  At least not if he’s winning at an acceptable rate.

I think people tuned in at the start of the season, figured we would finish last in the Big 12, and don't even check the scores to see that we actually aren't last, but are a middling team in the bottom half of the standings.

This was pretty much me. If I didn’t get final score ESPN alerts, I would have completely forgotten it was bball season until mid March.

[stunted]

What trap, we are 6-3 the last 9 conference games.

We really just have 1 player to replace. I think we could improve on Massoud, Bradford, Kasubke, even Miguel through the portal. This is a really good situation for a transfer to come into, just need some depth. Getting a new coach is a huge crapshoot. Might as well delay the crapshoot when we’re looking at 2 good to potentially really good seasons. Also our offense is looking good and scoring points. What more can you ask for in a rebuild year? That being said, keeping Pack and Nowell is the most important thing.

Before the season I predicted and would be happy with being on the bubble, and here we are, right on the bubble.

[MakeItRain]

What trap, we are 6-3 the last 9 conference games.

We really just have 1 player to replace. I think we could improve on Massoud, Bradford, Kasubke, even Miguel through the portal. This is a really good situation for a transfer to come into, just need some depth. Getting a new coach is a huge crapshoot. Might as well delay the crapshoot when we’re looking at 2 good to potentially really good seasons. Also our offense is looking good and scoring points. What more can you ask for in a rebuild year? That being said, keeping Pack and Nowell is the most important thing.

Bless your heart with your roster optimism.

Also there is no such thing as a rebuilding year in college basketball, you especially don't get one when you've hit on exactly three high school recruits, one of which got progressively worse in his time here, in 5 years.

I hope Selton stays but if he transfers I don't think we'll get a better player. It's pretty obvious Logan Landers isn't a long term solution.

[stunted]

we got 2 players a lot better than miguel through the portal. say we were to pick up 3 selton miguels and lose some combo of bradford/kasubke/miguel/other, i think we'd be looking good for next year.

[MakeItRain]

Bless your heart

[stunted]

You’ll see 😤😤

[CHONGS]

From ESPN:

The Wildcats have exceeded expectations this season, although a 19-point loss at Kansas on Tuesday dropped them 14-13 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12. oscar Weber hasn't led Kansas State to the NCAA tournament since 2019, when the Wildcats won a share of the Big 12 regular-season title. They're just 13-38 in league play since. Weber's buyout is $1 million and it drops to $500,000 after April 1. Weber, 65, could also opt to step down on his own. In terms of potential names if the job opens, there could be a long list. McCasland, Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Missouri State's Dana Ford, New Mexico State's Chris Jans and some high-major assistants have all been mentioned as possibilities.

[420seriouscat69]

Those names suck. WOOF!

[pissclams]

Several really good opportunities listed by ESPN, I’m surprised that they think we could land some of those coaches. 

[_33]

I think I want Matt McMahon now.  Unless someone tells me someone better and then I'll want them probably.

[MakeItRain]

From ESPN:

The Wildcats have exceeded expectations this season, although a 19-point loss at Kansas on Tuesday dropped them 14-13 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12. oscar Weber hasn't led Kansas State to the NCAA tournament since 2019, when the Wildcats won a share of the Big 12 regular-season title. They're just 13-38 in league play since. Weber's buyout is $1 million and it drops to $500,000 after April 1. Weber, 65, could also opt to step down on his own. In terms of potential names if the job opens, there could be a long list. McCasland, Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Missouri State's Dana Ford, New Mexico State's Chris Jans and some high-major assistants have all been mentioned as possibilities.

I thought he was staying, CHONGS? I'm fine with any of those except for Jans, we aren't hiring him anyway so it's whatever. I don't know much about Linder but the eye on college basketball podcast talked about him extensively earlier this week.

Several really good opportunities listed by ESPN, I’m surprised that they think we could land some of those coaches. 

[CHONGS]

Oh he's staying, I was just happy to see Todd mentioned.  He might be just ready enough for us in about three years.

[MakeItRain]

From ESPN:

The Wildcats have exceeded expectations this season, although a 19-point loss at Kansas on Tuesday dropped them 14-13 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12. oscar Weber hasn't led Kansas State to the NCAA tournament since 2019, when the Wildcats won a share of the Big 12 regular-season title. They're just 13-38 in league play since. Weber's buyout is $1 million and it drops to $500,000 after April 1. Weber, 65, could also opt to step down on his own. In terms of potential names if the job opens, there could be a long list. McCasland, Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Missouri State's Dana Ford, New Mexico State's Chris Jans and some high-major assistants have all been mentioned as possibilities.

Here's an extended list of job candidates from the same article. I'd rather keep oscar than get any of the scrubs from the getting back in section.

High-profile names to watch
Mick Cronin, UCLA: Cronin is the wild card for Louisville. If he has real interest in the job, he should be a no-brainer hire. But he's already led the Bruins to a Final Four, is making $4 million a year and enjoys the West Coast, by all accounts. Cronin taking Louisville could really set in motion a wild carousel.

Andy Enfield, USC: Enfield was linked very quickly with the Maryland job, given his ties to the area and his time spent in College Park getting his MBA. His name has continued to linger for the opening, too, and he's very much a legitimate candidate.

Ed Cooley, Providence: Cooley is a national coach of the year candidate after leading the Friars to the top 10 and a potential Big East regular-season title. He's also near the top of Maryland's list, although most indications point to him preferring to stay at Providence -- and possibly signing a lucrative deal.

Kevin Willard, Seton Hall: Willard has been mentioned with jobs for the past few cycles, but Maryland could really have some legs. He, like Enfield, was linked to the opening almost immediately and has remained in the mix. If he doesn't get the job, could Seton Hall look to give him a new deal?

Steve Forbes, Wake Forest: Wake Forest won six games in Forbes' first season in Winston-Salem -- and the Demon Deacons are now 21-7 in his second season, squarely in the mix for the NCAA tournament. He's won everywhere he's been, both as an assistant and head coach, and could be a sneaky option for bigger jobs that open.

Nate Oats, Alabama: As mentioned, Maryland made overtures early in the process -- and it wouldn't be a surprise if other programs do too, given his success at Buffalo and the way he's turned around Alabama. But his buyout is still $10.4 million and drops to $9.8 million in a few weeks.

Mike Boynton, Oklahoma State: Boynton did one of the best coaching jobs in the country last season, guiding the Cowboys to a 4-seed in the NCAA tournament led by No. 1 draft pick Cade Cunningham. They've fallen back to the pack this season, just 13-14 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12, but he could still be a name at South Carolina. However, his buyout is still very high after signing a lucrative new deal last April.

Rick Pitino, Iona: Pitino rumors will never die. He's already been mentioned with the Maryland job, and he will 100% be connected to at least one or two more jobs before the carousel stops spinning. In two years at Iona, he went to the NCAA tournament and won a regular-season title and is clearly one of the best coaches of his generation. But it's hard to take the majority of Pitino rumors too seriously.

Mike White, Florida: I honestly think White gets a bit of a bad rap from Florida fans simply because he's not Billy Donovan. He hasn't led the Gators to the heights of the previous regime, but he's gone to four straight NCAA tournaments -- and won at least one game in all four appearances, including the Elite Eight run in 2017. That said, Tuesday's loss to Arkansas leaves them on the wrong side of the bubble and he'll likely be feeling some heat next season. Could he look to get out early?

Jason Hart, G-League Ignite: Hart developed a reputation as one of the best assistant coaches on the West Coast during his time under Enfield at USC, but couldn't land a head-coaching job. So he left to take over the G League Ignite team, and he's impressed people who have been around the club this season. If a job opens out West this spring -- or if Enfield leaves for another job -- Hart will be near the top of the list.


Mid-major names to monitor
Dennis Gates, Cleveland State: Gates was linked to nearly every high-major job available last spring after guiding Cleveland State to the NCAA tournament, but returned to the Vikings and promptly won the Horizon League title again. He has high-major experience as an assistant coach under Leonard Hamilton at Florida State and will be involved with a slew of jobs again.

Niko Medved, Colorado State: Medved has had plenty of regular season success at Furman, Drake and now Colorado State -- but the one thing that's been missing from his résumé is an NCAA tournament appearance. That should change this season, as the Rams are 21-4 overall and 11-4 in the Mountain West. He's from Minnesota, but spent a significant amount of time in the Southeast.

Matt McMahon, Murray State: The Racers have been maybe the best mid-major team in the country this season, sitting inside the top 25 at 26-2 overall and 16-0 in the Ohio Valley Conference with two games remaining. McMahon has been to two NCAA tournaments in his seven seasons, including a win over Marquette in 2019 with Ja Morant running the show.

Lamont Paris, Chattanooga: Paris' name started buzzing among industry sources last summer as someone who could really boost his stock and get involved in high-major jobs this spring -- and he now has Chattanooga atop the Southern Conference heading down the stretch. He's been at Chattanooga for five seasons, but his seven seasons as an assistant at Wisconsin are crucial, too.

Grant McCasland, North Texas: McCasland has done a tremendous job with North Texas this season, after the Mean Green were picked sixth in the preseason Conference USA poll. They're going to win the league after going to the NCAA tournament and beating Purdue there last season. McCasland also has high-major experience from his time at Baylor, where he was an assistant under Scott Drew from 2011 to 2016.

Mark Pope, BYU: The Cougars are struggling down the stretch of the season and will need to win some games in the WCC tournament to hear their name on Selection Sunday -- but Pope's reputation is good enough to get him in the mix regardless. He's won at least 20 games in each of the past four seasons and he's on track to do it again this season.

Drew Valentine, Loyola Chicago: He's only been at Loyola Chicago for one season, but the Ramblers would be in the NCAA tournament if the season ended today. Valentine was an assistant under Porter Moser at Loyola the past four seasons and also spent time under Greg Kampe as an assistant and under Tom Izzo as a GA.

Eric Henderson, South Dakota State: Henderson has quietly been one of the most successful mid-major coaches over the past three years, winning at least a share of three consecutive Summit League regular-season titles -- and now leading the Jackrabbits to a 16-0 record in conference play. He's missing an NCAA tournament appearance, though, which could change very soon.

Todd Golden, San Francisco: Golden has a reputation in the industry as a really sharp, young coach -- and after struggling last season, bounced back with 22 wins so far this season. The Dons seem poised for the NCAA tournament, too. Only 36 years old, Golden also spent two seasons as an assistant coach at Auburn.

Bashir Mason, Wagner: Mason was one of the hottest coaches in the country early in his tenure at Wagner, but then went through a couple of down seasons -- before bouncing back with a 13-5 NEC record last season and a 13-1 campaign this season. Despite being in charge of the Seahawks for 10 seasons, he's still only 38 years old.

Jeff Linder, Wyoming: Before last week's loss at New Mexico, Linder had Wyoming inside the top 25 and on track for the Mountain West regular-season title. Given that the Cowboys were picked eighth in the preseason, that's a wildly impressive feat. Linder has turned things around quickly in Laramie, just as he did in four seasons at Northern Colorado.

James Jones, Yale: All Jones does is win, even if he's rarely linked to bigger jobs -- with the exception of St. John's a few years back. But Yale has a half-game lead on Princeton in the Ivy standings with two games remaining. If the Bulldogs win their final two games, it will be Jones' fifth conference title in the past seven Ivy seasons and potentially their fourth NCAA tournament appearance over that stretch.

Terrence Johnson, Texas State: Two years as a head coach, two Sun Belt regular-season titles. Johnson took over Texas State on an interim basis last season, guided the Bobcats to a league title before being named permanent head coach -- and then went out and won the regular-season title again this season. He's well-connected and experienced in the New Orleans and Houston high school and AAU scenes and is a name on the rise.

Bob Richey, Furman: The one thing keeping Richey below some of the other names on this list is his lack of a title, either regular season or postseason. But he won 73 games his first three seasons at Furman, finished near the top of the SoCon last season and is just behind Chattanooga in the league again this season. If he gets to the NCAA tournament, his stock could skyrocket.

Jeff Boals, Ohio: Boals was involved at Penn State last season after leading the Bobcats to the NCAA tournament and then upsetting Virginia in the first round. He has Ohio back in the conference title hunt this season, tied for first with Toledo with three games remaining. Boals has achieved head-coaching success at two different mid-majors and also has loads of experience as an assistant under Thad Matta at Ohio State.

John Becker, Vermont: At some point, Becker has to get a bigger job, right? He's been linked with jobs for years, given his outrageous levels of success with the Catamounts. Becker has won at least a share of six straight regular-season titles in the America East and has also won four conference tournaments during his tenure.

Jared Grasso, Bryant: After developing a reputation as a terrific recruiter during his time as an assistant coach under Tim Cluess at Iona, Grasso struggled for a couple seasons as the head coach at Bryant. But he's found his footing and has the Bulldogs on Wagner's heels in the NEC. He's recruiting transfers at a high level and is well-connected in the Northeast.

Others who could move: Casey Alexander, Belmont; Matt Langel, Colgate; Darian DeVries, Drake; Chris Jans, New Mexico State; Dustin Kerns, Appalachian State; Dana Ford, Missouri State; Ritchie McKay, Liberty; Preston Spradlin, Morehead State; Robert Jones, Norfolk State; Austin Claunch, Nicholls

Getting back in?
Archie Miller: Miller was one of the hottest coaches in the country after four straight NCAA tournaments at Dayton, but he didn't get to the tournament in any of his four seasons at Indiana and was sacked last spring. His name was briefly linked to Cincinnati when it opened and it will likely be mentioned several times again this spring.

Sean Miller: As mentioned, Archie's older brother is likely going to be the top candidate whenever Pittsburgh opens -- but he's also been linked to the Maryland job. He had plenty of success at Arizona and Xavier, but it's unclear if any school will hire him before the NCAA reaches a decision on any potential punishments stemming from its investigation into Arizona.

Thad Matta: Matta's name has been floating around a few coaching cycles now, including last season when he was linked to Penn State and Indiana before he became Indiana's associate athletic director for men's basketball administration. If he does want to get back into coaching, Butler could be a potential opening.

Steve Wojciechowski: After seven seasons with Marquette, Wojciechowski was fired last spring. He went to a pair of NCAA tournaments with the Golden Eagles, and has 15 years as an assistant at Duke under his belt. I don't imagine he would take a job just to take a job, but his name could pop up around openings.

Steve Prohm: Prohm was fired by Iowa State last season after an 0-18 Big 12 campaign, but he did go to three NCAA tournaments in his six seasons in Ames. Before that, he was highly successful in four seasons at Murray State. He's already been linked to Illinois State and potentially East Carolina if it opens.

Paul Hewitt: Hewitt hasn't coached in college since 2015, when he was let go by George Mason, but there's been some talk he's looking to get back in. He was linked to the St. John's job before they hired Mike Anderson. Hewitt spent 18 years as a head coach at Siena, Georgia Tech and George Mason, then joined the LA Clippers organization as a scout. He also coached their G League team last year.

[wetwillie]

@MakeItRain if you had to choose between Kim English or KT Turner who you goin with

[MakeItRain]

@MakeItRain if you had to choose between Kim English or KT Turner who you goin with

Eh, I don't know if there's a significant difference between the two. I think really plugged in K-State basketball fans would really be excited about Kim and he's the most likely of the two that would instantly energize the fan base. However, there would definitely be a vocal minority that just couldn't handle him being a Mizzou grad and they'd start chirping the first time he didn't land a recruit or transfer target.

I'd go with Kim if I had to choose but both are complete dice rolls, as is anyone else we'd hire who isn't Rick Pitino.

[420seriouscat69]

Kim would just be fun. Win or lose. I'm kinda ready for some silliness in my life.

[wetwillie]

He’s got a stud wing he could bring from George Mason too

[Rage Against the McKee]

We should all be emailing Gene and telling him it's Pitino or else.

[KCFDcat]

Remember when like half the fan base wanted to hire Doug gottlieb?

[Cire]

Pitino
Mack
Kim English


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[Kat Kid]

Remember when like half the fan base wanted to hire Doug gottlieb?

Yes I do in fact remember that.

[CHONGS]

Let's keep oscar.