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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: _33 on January 13, 2022, 09:14:47 AM
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I don't have anyone specific in mind. My main qualification has always been that they are not oscar Weber.
What names do you guys like?
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They have to be good and fun
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Jerome Tang
KT Turner
oscar Pearl
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They have to be good and fun
You are hired
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Thad Matta
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Archie Miller
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always has been a hard pass for me but...
Mark Turdgeon
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oscar's three daughters.
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Family Octagon
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Rick Pitino
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Anthony Grant
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Get out of here, chum.
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Kim English
Alvin Brooks
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What if we just hired Bill Self :dunno:
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Jacob Pullen
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who is the best recruiter in Texas/the midwest? go with them
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who is the best recruiter in Texas/the midwest? go with them
Hard to beat Tang for that criteria
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who is the best recruiter in Texas/the midwest? go with them
Hard to beat Tang for that criteria
yep. weird he's been at baylor so long tbh
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I can say this.
oscar now has a .175 conference winning percentage the last 3 seasons.
Next worst for a single coach over 3 years was Frank Root (.250) from 1934-36.
Then Jack Gardner (.267) from 1940-42.
Then Wooly (.292) from 2001-03.
Then Asbury (.295) from 1995-97.
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He's going to be my TT for hoops.
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Shane Southwell :bball:
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Cuonzo available
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Jerome Tang
KT Turner
oscar Pearl
Interesting names. Don't think Pearl is a realistic possibility, nor do I think gene would even consider him.
The other two are intriguing. I have incredibly LHBBC iq. Has anyone even offered Tang? How has he skated by for 19 years and no one gives him a sniff.
KT Turner...ill be honest....didn't even know he was from Manhattan (again, LHBBC iq). Both Tang and Turner seem like solid choices to me.
I do know one thing.....gene won't hire anyone mentioned in this thread. I want oscar gone, but then I come back to the question of who are we gonna hire, and then I just kinda give up. Also sad that Southwell and Kelly will be gone as well.
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Jerome Tang
KT Turner
oscar Pearl
Interesting names. Don't think Pearl is a realistic possibility, nor do I think gene would even consider him.
The other two are intriguing. I have incredibly LHBBC iq. Has anyone even offered Tang? How has he skated by for 19 years and no one gives him a sniff.
KT Turner...ill be honest....didn't even know he was from Manhattan (again, LHBBC iq). Both Tang and Turner seem like solid choices to me.
I do know one thing.....gene won't hire anyone mentioned in this thread. I want oscar gone, but then I come back to the question of who are we gonna hire, and then I just kinda give up. Also sad that Southwell and Kelly will be gone as well.
I just threw in oscar for Chingon. I think Gene will go for a SLTH like he did for football. I haven’t kept up with the current top tier SLTH contenders so truthfully have no idea who they might be.
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Gene will hire someone he’s worked with
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Jerome Tang
KT Turner
oscar Pearl
Interesting names. Don't think Pearl is a realistic possibility, nor do I think gene would even consider him.
The other two are intriguing. I have incredibly LHBBC iq. Has anyone even offered Tang? How has he skated by for 19 years and no one gives him a sniff.
KT Turner...ill be honest....didn't even know he was from Manhattan (again, LHBBC iq). Both Tang and Turner seem like solid choices to me.
I do know one thing.....gene won't hire anyone mentioned in this thread. I want oscar gone, but then I come back to the question of who are we gonna hire, and then I just kinda give up. Also sad that Southwell and Kelly will be gone as well.
I just threw in oscar for Chingon. I think Gene will go for a SLTH like he did for football. I haven’t kept up with the current top tier SLTH contenders so truthfully have no idea who they might be.
Klieman was an out of the box hire that was risky as hell and widely questioned, not a SLTH. Neal Brown and Matt Wells were SLTH's, not Klieman.
I still think he'll hire a SLTH for basketball because who cares, it's basketball.
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Darian DeVries
Nico Medved
Kim English
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Gene will hire someone he’s worked with
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You have morphed into the king of shitposting in the sports threads. This is stupid.
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I still think he'll hire a SLTH for basketball because who cares, it's basketball.
Why do you have to say mean things?
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I would love Kim English but I think Missouri is likely to get him
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I still think he'll hire a SLTH for basketball because who cares, it's basketball.
Why do you have to say mean things?
It's very hard not to hire a SLTH in basketball, particularly in a power conference.
Look at this list, they're all SLTHs other than Beard, English, and Mike Woodson.
https://athlonsports.com/college-basketball/college-basketball-top-head-coaching-hires-2021-22
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I would love Kim English but I think Missouri is likely to get him
I was having this convo on twitter but listening to KC sports talk, I get the impression that the powers that be there are giving the impression they don't think he's ready.
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I would love Kim English but I think Missouri is likely to get him
I was having this convo on twitter but listening to KC sports talk, I get the impression that the powers that be there are giving the impression they don't think he's ready.
I hope so. I wish he had more coaching experience but am OK with him learning a bit on the job. I also would expect that his energy recruiting could cover some coaching inexperience in the meantime.
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I would love Kim English but I think Missouri is likely to get him
I was having this convo on twitter but listening to KC sports talk, I get the impression that the powers that be there are giving the impression they don't think he's ready.
I hope so. I wish he had more coaching experience but am OK with him learning a bit on the job. I also would expect that his energy recruiting could cover some coaching inexperience in the meantime.
Gary Parish talks about this all the time, that either you can do the job or you can't. He was a high level assistant for 6 years before getting the George Mason job, I can't imagine he needs much more seasoning.
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I thought he was younger than that but it probably has more to do with me not realizing how old I am.
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As long as Gene Keady can help.
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The problem with hiring Kim English if Missouri doesn't, is they'll always be there when the next coach doesn't work out.
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The problem with hiring Kim English if Missouri doesn't, is they'll always be there when the next coach doesn't work out.
If a guy is good enough that other schools want him, that’s still good for us.
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The problem with hiring Kim English if Missouri doesn't, is they'll always be there when the next coach doesn't work out.
We aren’t a destination job so that’s true for anyone worth a damn.
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It was pretty bold to hire Bob Huggins, and then Frank. And it was awesome. Those hire'rs aren't around anymore.
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The problem with hiring Kim English if Missouri doesn't, is they'll always be there when the next coach doesn't work out.
Agreed. We shouldn't hire anyone that someone else might want someday.
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Don't be an idiot
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Darian DeVries
Nico Medved
Kim English
I've seen Nico Medved mentioned several times. As far as I can tell he is barely above .500 overall and has never sniffed an NCAA tournament. What's so great about this guy?
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David Richman. Seriously.
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The thing that sucks about Kim English to Missouri is that Missouri seemingly has to hire a new coach every 2-3 years. Not that it should be a deterrent to hiring him.
I don't think it would be a given he would leave us for Missouri. It would be a lateral move and if he wants to coach at a blue blood, it's unnecessary. Alma Mater jobs are best for coaches approaching retirement, not 30-somethings with more upside.
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The thing that sucks about Kim English to Missouri is that Missouri seemingly has to hire a new coach every 2-3 years. Not that it should be a deterrent to hiring him.
I don't think it would be a given he would leave us for Missouri. It would be a lateral move and if he wants to coach at a blue blood, it's unnecessary. Alma Mater jobs are best for coaches approaching retirement, not 30-somethings with more upside.
This is pretty much what I was getting at.
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As a university, the Mizzou Kim English played at is a far cry from the Mizzou today.
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What about Mark Pope?
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Wildcard to watch:
Todd Golden
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Outside of his auburn ties what do you like about this dude
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He has the right style for KSU.
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Eric Henderson's South Dakota State teams play fast and win with efficient offense. He learned under TJ Otzelberger at SDSU. There is a Dakota connection. His teams don't seem to play much defense tho.
Dunno about his recruiting.
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He has the right style for KSU.
What style is that?
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He has the right style for KSU.
What style is that?
Sex.
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I'm in for Kim English although I have no idea how good he's been as a coach. I just like the guy.
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Imagine the recruiting powerhouse he would assemble here
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we should keep oscar weber.
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Darian DeVries
Nico Medved
Kim English
I've seen Nico Medved mentioned several times. As far as I can tell he is barely above .500 overall and has never sniffed an NCAA tournament. What's so great about this guy?
Look at the programs he's gotten to .500. He's taken three bad jobs with no historical success and built those programs into tournament programs and he's recruited very well.
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David Richman. Seriously.
If Gene wanted to do that he had several opportunities before this year. Richman hasn't been to the tournament in at least 5 years.
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What about Mark Pope?
Sure, why not.
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Hire the dirtiest guy possible.
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Here is a few from an athletic article earlier this year on up and comers and retreads (link for those with a sub)
https://theathletic.com/2887254/2021/11/01/college-basketball-coaches-to-watch-in-2021-22-warming-seats-mid-majors-moving-up-assistants-on-the-cusp/?source=user_shared_article) (https://theathletic.com/2887254/2021/11/01/college-basketball-coaches-to-watch-in-2021-22-warming-seats-mid-majors-moving-up-assistants-on-the-cusp/?source=user_shared_article))
Eric Konkol, Louisiana Tech. The 44-year-old hasn’t had a losing season in six years in Ruston, and he’ll have one of the nation’s low-key best players in Kenneth Lofton Jr. this year. A nice setup to capture some spotlight.
Grant McCasland, North Texas. He’s 44, he’s not had a losing season in five years as a head coach, he’s led the Mean Green to a Conference USA regular-season title and tournament title in the last two seasons, respectively, he engineered a first-round upset of Purdue in March and that Baylor line on his resume looks better and better.
Niko Medved, Colorado State. If the Rams are indeed a top 25-ish outfit this year, that’ll clinch two strong rebuilds at Furman and Colorado State for Medved. That should be an attention-getter for a power-league school needing a jolt.
Roger Powell, Gonzaga. While Brian Michaelson is now the longest-tenured Mark Few aide and well-prepared himself, Powell is viewed internally as also perfectly ready for a head coach gig. Some recruiting wins lately just add to the allure.
Marvin Menzies, former UNLV coach. He’s not done yet, and even though his tenure in Las Vegas couldn’t withstand an administration change, he did lead New Mexico State to five NCAA Tournament bids.
Archie Miller, former Indiana coach. Does a year away prompt Miller to explore offensive innovation and be a little more tuned-in to relationship building with the modern college player? If so, a guy with one losing season as a coach is an intriguing option.
Sean Miller, former Arizona coach. Once there’s clarity from the NCAA — and goodness knows that could happen anytime between next month and the apocalypse — someone will employ Sean Miller (career winning percentage of .730) again.
Steve Prohm, former Iowa State coach. Results the last two seasons were … not great. But Prohm banked enough wins previously in Ames and at Murray State to cut the profile of a guy who gets another opportunity at a mid-major.
Steve Wojciechowski, former Marquette coach. He won 57 percent of his games with the Golden Eagles but dipped to sub-.500 finishes in the Big East the last two seasons. Wojciechowski will get refreshed this season and might be a coach who really thrives in a second job with a clean slate.
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mike beasley
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I don't think our program is ready for Kim yet. We need to get the car started before we can hand the keys to Dale Jr
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mike beasley
#WETHEMONES
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Can we get a coach through The Portal? Or is that a "players only" thing?
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Here is a few from an athletic article earlier this year on up and comers and retreads (link for those with a sub)
https://theathletic.com/2887254/2021/11/01/college-basketball-coaches-to-watch-in-2021-22-warming-seats-mid-majors-moving-up-assistants-on-the-cusp/?source=user_shared_article) (https://theathletic.com/2887254/2021/11/01/college-basketball-coaches-to-watch-in-2021-22-warming-seats-mid-majors-moving-up-assistants-on-the-cusp/?source=user_shared_article))
Eric Konkol, Louisiana Tech. The 44-year-old hasn’t had a losing season in six years in Ruston, and he’ll have one of the nation’s low-key best players in Kenneth Lofton Jr. this year. A nice setup to capture some spotlight.
Grant McCasland, North Texas. He’s 44, he’s not had a losing season in five years as a head coach, he’s led the Mean Green to a Conference USA regular-season title and tournament title in the last two seasons, respectively, he engineered a first-round upset of Purdue in March and that Baylor line on his resume looks better and better.
Niko Medved, Colorado State. If the Rams are indeed a top 25-ish outfit this year, that’ll clinch two strong rebuilds at Furman and Colorado State for Medved. That should be an attention-getter for a power-league school needing a jolt.
Roger Powell, Gonzaga. While Brian Michaelson is now the longest-tenured Mark Few aide and well-prepared himself, Powell is viewed internally as also perfectly ready for a head coach gig. Some recruiting wins lately just add to the allure.
Marvin Menzies, former UNLV coach. He’s not done yet, and even though his tenure in Las Vegas couldn’t withstand an administration change, he did lead New Mexico State to five NCAA Tournament bids.
Archie Miller, former Indiana coach. Does a year away prompt Miller to explore offensive innovation and be a little more tuned-in to relationship building with the modern college player? If so, a guy with one losing season as a coach is an intriguing option.
Sean Miller, former Arizona coach. Once there’s clarity from the NCAA — and goodness knows that could happen anytime between next month and the apocalypse — someone will employ Sean Miller (career winning percentage of .730) again.
Steve Prohm, former Iowa State coach. Results the last two seasons were … not great. But Prohm banked enough wins previously in Ames and at Murray State to cut the profile of a guy who gets another opportunity at a mid-major.
Steve Wojciechowski, former Marquette coach. He won 57 percent of his games with the Golden Eagles but dipped to sub-.500 finishes in the Big East the last two seasons. Wojciechowski will get refreshed this season and might be a coach who really thrives in a second job with a clean slate.
After Medved this list is ass. It's still very possible that Miller could get a show cause.
If we get a retread like Wojo I'm gonna lose my crap.
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Hire the dirtiest guy possible.
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I refuse to believe we couldn’t woo Kelvin Sampson away from Houston. He’ll be in the big12 in the next couple years anyway, might as well be in lavender with a firm assurance from gene that the athletic department will be relentless and unflinching when it comes to turning a blind eye and looking the other way
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He's older than oscar, homeboy will be 67 at the start of next season.
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Sean Miller, former Arizona coach. Once there’s clarity from the NCAA — and goodness knows that could happen anytime between next month and the apocalypse — someone will employ Sean Miller (career winning percentage of .730) again.
Would take if he gets his crap straight
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We've hired four coaches this century and three of the four (Wooly, Huggins, Oscar) were retreads.
Time to bring Mark Fox home.
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No
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Could we get Shaka ?
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Here is a few from an athletic article earlier this year on up and comers and retreads (link for those with a sub)
https://theathletic.com/2887254/2021/11/01/college-basketball-coaches-to-watch-in-2021-22-warming-seats-mid-majors-moving-up-assistants-on-the-cusp/?source=user_shared_article) (https://theathletic.com/2887254/2021/11/01/college-basketball-coaches-to-watch-in-2021-22-warming-seats-mid-majors-moving-up-assistants-on-the-cusp/?source=user_shared_article))
Eric Konkol, Louisiana Tech. The 44-year-old hasn’t had a losing season in six years in Ruston, and he’ll have one of the nation’s low-key best players in Kenneth Lofton Jr. this year. A nice setup to capture some spotlight.
Grant McCasland, North Texas. He’s 44, he’s not had a losing season in five years as a head coach, he’s led the Mean Green to a Conference USA regular-season title and tournament title in the last two seasons, respectively, he engineered a first-round upset of Purdue in March and that Baylor line on his resume looks better and better.
Niko Medved, Colorado State. If the Rams are indeed a top 25-ish outfit this year, that’ll clinch two strong rebuilds at Furman and Colorado State for Medved. That should be an attention-getter for a power-league school needing a jolt.
Roger Powell, Gonzaga. While Brian Michaelson is now the longest-tenured Mark Few aide and well-prepared himself, Powell is viewed internally as also perfectly ready for a head coach gig. Some recruiting wins lately just add to the allure.
Marvin Menzies, former UNLV coach. He’s not done yet, and even though his tenure in Las Vegas couldn’t withstand an administration change, he did lead New Mexico State to five NCAA Tournament bids.
Archie Miller, former Indiana coach. Does a year away prompt Miller to explore offensive innovation and be a little more tuned-in to relationship building with the modern college player? If so, a guy with one losing season as a coach is an intriguing option.
Sean Miller, former Arizona coach. Once there’s clarity from the NCAA — and goodness knows that could happen anytime between next month and the apocalypse — someone will employ Sean Miller (career winning percentage of .730) again.
Steve Prohm, former Iowa State coach. Results the last two seasons were … not great. But Prohm banked enough wins previously in Ames and at Murray State to cut the profile of a guy who gets another opportunity at a mid-major.
Steve Wojciechowski, former Marquette coach. He won 57 percent of his games with the Golden Eagles but dipped to sub-.500 finishes in the Big East the last two seasons. Wojciechowski will get refreshed this season and might be a coach who really thrives in a second job with a clean slate.
After Medved this list is ass. It's still very possible that Miller could get a show cause.
If we get a retread like Wojo I'm gonna lose my crap.
not a single man on this list that I want here
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Could we get Shaka ?
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Zero chance, absolutely none. Marquette is a way better program than K-State, in pretty much every way. We don't even have the good before anyone was alive advantage over them. They have a better history, better arena, more money, better recruiting home base. Manhattan is a better place to live than shitty Milwaukee, and K-State has a better campus, that's it for us.
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Buzz went to Virgina Tech
He's a weird dude though
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A few more from the article. From the up and comer category….assistants
Kellen Sampson, Houston. He’s been at the forefront of Houston’s player development. So it’s either wait to take over for his father — who shows no outward signs of slowing down — or cash in on the Cougars’ success to run his own show for a bit.
Darren Savino, UCLA.The Bruins’ associate head coach has worked with Cronin for 14 years across three stops. Here’s guessing it’s a matter of finding the perfect fit, which is an understandable bar to set — but also possibly cause for a long wait.
Jerome Tang, Baylor. He’s been at Scott Drew’s side for nearly two decades, and we know why: My colleague CJ Moore’s story on Drew’s coaching tree describes the dynamic as Tang being extremely selective about fit. That piece provides all the insight you need on the circumstances that would spring Tang to his own top job.
Jason Williford, Virginia. Another longtime aide to one very successful coach, who may not ever leave his home state. But there’s also nothing left to prove in Charlottesville. Williford can run his own show.
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Buzz went to Virgina Tech
He's a weird dude though
Yeah and Frank Haith went from Mizzou to Tulsa. In both cases they were job resets. Buzz did it again when he went from Tech to A&M, homeboy went from a average job in the ACC to the worst job in the SEC. Buzz and Mike Anderson are the kings of the job reset
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I fully expect oscar to beat TTU today.
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Based on name alone, it needs to be Tang.
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I fully expect oscar to beat TTU today.
Based on the score now he has this thing locked up 100%
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Could we get Shaka ?
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Zero chance, absolutely none. Marquette is a way better program than K-State, in pretty much every way. We don't even have the good before anyone was alive advantage over them. They have a better history, better arena, more money, better recruiting home base. Manhattan is a better place to live than shitty Milwaukee, and K-State has a better campus, that's it for us.
I agree, but I'd add that I'd much rather live in Milwaukee than Manhattan KS. It's great. I lived there for a couple years.
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I fully expect oscar to beat TTU today.
Based on the score now he has this thing locked up 100%
Really? lol, look at you pissing in the wind
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I fully expect oscar to beat TTU today.
Based on the score now he has this thing locked up 100%
Really? lol, look at you pissing in the wind
:dunno:
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Let’s give him a raise !
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Let’s give him a raise !
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oscar Weber Family Coliseum has a nice ring to it
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I fully expect oscar to beat TTU today.
Based on the score now he has this thing locked up 100%
Really? lol, look at you pissing in the wind
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Well done on the predicto, I'm never doing that with this team until the game is over. Did you see they were still trying to break a press by inbounding the ball to the corner?
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
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We'd hire Lowery and the players would stay. Duh.
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
This was the most perfect and sad answer possible. lol
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you know how long it takes to build an extraordinarily successful college basketball program from the ground up? like 4 minutes. If anything a fresh start would be a positive. out with the old, in with the new. how dang exciting will that be.
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you know how long it takes to build an extraordinarily successful college basketball program from the ground up? like 4 minutes. If anything a fresh start would be a positive. out with the old, in with the new. how dang exciting will that be.
Even easier with the transfer portal. A hotshot new coach could have a brand new starting 5, all with previous major college experience, before they can change the office name plate.
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Sean Miller, former Arizona coach. Once there’s clarity from the NCAA — and goodness knows that could happen anytime between next month and the apocalypse — someone will employ Sean Miller (career winning percentage of .730) again.
Would take if he gets his crap straight
if he gets his crap straight, he loses his only competitive advantage...terrible X/Os guy...archie no better
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
This was the most perfect and sad answer possible. lol
I thought y'all like Curtis Kelly and Shane Southwell? We don't care about them either?
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Sean Miller, former Arizona coach. Once there’s clarity from the NCAA — and goodness knows that could happen anytime between next month and the apocalypse — someone will employ Sean Miller (career winning percentage of .730) again.
Would take if he gets his crap straight
if he gets his crap straight, he loses his only competitive advantage...terrible X/Os guy...archie no better
I don't want the dude, but he won 8 conference championships and had 3 elite 8s in 12 seasons at Arizona. Those last three years were real rough tho.
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Sean Miller, former Arizona coach. Once there’s clarity from the NCAA — and goodness knows that could happen anytime between next month and the apocalypse — someone will employ Sean Miller (career winning percentage of .730) again.
Would take if he gets his crap straight
if he gets his crap straight, he loses his only competitive advantage...terrible X/Os guy...archie no better
I don't want the dude, but he won 8 conference championships and had 3 elite 8s in 12 seasons at Arizona. Those last three years were real rough tho.
ya, cuz he was cheating his azz off...those numbers are not at all impressive, given the caliber of players he bought
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
This was the most perfect and sad answer possible. lol
I thought y'all like Curtis Kelly and Shane Southwell? We don't care about them either?
Look, everyone agrees that the Huggs/Frank players were wonderful, and the oscar players were not. Those are facts that are not being debated here.
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you know how long it takes to build an extraordinarily successful college basketball program from the ground up? like 4 minutes. If anything a fresh start would be a positive. out with the old, in with the new. how dang exciting will that be.
Even easier with the transfer portal. A hotshot new coach could have a brand new starting 5, all with previous major college experience, before they can change the office name plate.
This should actually be the first question in our interview process. "Who are you brining with you?" It certainly was for Tim Weiser, god rest his soul.
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The punishment for getting caught "cheating" in college basketball is identical to the reward for "doing things the right way" in college basketball.
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The punishment for getting caught "cheating" in college basketball is identical to the reward for "doing things the right way" in college basketball.
yeah, there's a bunch of coaches who took a bit of a spanking, but almost everyone's worked their way back.
exceptions that come to mind: dave bliss and donnie tyndall
edit: altho of course i'm sure all kinds of assistants have been shitcanned all to hell
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
This was the most perfect and sad answer possible. lol
I thought y'all like Curtis Kelly and Shane Southwell? We don't care about them either?
I am all for taking a flyer on Shane!
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
This was the most perfect and sad answer possible. lol
I thought y'all like Curtis Kelly and Shane Southwell? We don't care about them either?
Look, everyone agrees that the Huggs/Frank players were wonderful, and the oscar players were not. Those are facts that are not being debated here.
So you liked them as players for Frank but not as assistants for oscar? Help me understand.
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A lot of oscar players have been great, the premise is flawed.
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
This was the most perfect and sad answer possible. lol
I thought y'all like Curtis Kelly and Shane Southwell? We don't care about them either?
Look, everyone agrees that the Huggs/Frank players were wonderful, and the oscar players were not. Those are facts that are not being debated here.
So you liked them as players for Frank but not as assistants for oscar? Help me understand.
Who is an assistant for oscar?
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anyway, oscar has now won against 2 ranked teams in a row, so he’s not going anywhere. I will check in again next year to see if this looks promising.
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anyway, oscar has now won against 2 ranked teams in a row, so he’s not going anywhere. I will check in again next year to see if this looks promising.
Probably will be 3 in a row when he Bruces the hawks at home.
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
You may be right, Manhattan is a Mecca for future all-Americans. They flock there.
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anyway, oscar has now won against 2 ranked teams in a row, so he’s not going anywhere. I will check in again next year to see if this looks promising.
Guess we are about to find out how bad Brucey wants to keep cashing 3 million worth of checks from kstate every year.
Probably will be 3 in a row when he Bruces the hawks at home.
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If Weber gets canned at the end of the year, we will get a new coach and many new players. Better or worse with the transfer portal? Will 1 or 2 or 7 current players leave? Just asking.
Then we can root for them while playing for other teams like everybody did for Angel. Can’t wait, there will be so many other games to watch!!!
I'll field this one...
First of all, no one gives a eff about the program now, so whatever happens to whomever the players are on the current squad is really no big deal.
Second, if these players can be recruited and signed by oscar rough ridin' Weber, the new dude can convince them to stay (assuming he wants them). EASILY.
You may be right, Manhattan is a Mecca for future all-Americans. They flock there.
They did for a little while.
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anyway, oscar has now won against 2 ranked teams in a row, so he’s not going anywhere. I will check in again next year to see if this looks promising.
He's never leaving, is he? :bawl:
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Winning basketball games is really fun. Winning Big 12 basketball games is really really fun. Winning Big 12 road games is really really rough ridin' fun.
I want oscar gone, but I also want to win every single basketball game we play.
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Winning basketball games is really fun. Winning Big 12 basketball games is really really fun. Winning Big 12 road games is really really rough ridin' fun.
I want oscar gone, but I also want to win every single basketball game we play.
I don't think we can have both.
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If oscar makes the tournament he can and should stay.
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NO! No..No..No..No..No!
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He has his five conference wins, he's safe
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Nijel beating KU at the piss barn and propelling the cats to a tourney berth would be especially tasty
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Nijel beating KU at the piss barn and propelling the cats to a tourney berth would be especially tasty
would take
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We won't beat KU in L-dog but we're gonna get our first conference tournament title since 1980.
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Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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It's not fun because we don't win enough. I'd love oscar if he won more. He wins some, but not enough.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7XF7_SQ2HE
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Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, tht's the problem.
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Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
and you know that a lot of our disdain for oscar has little to do with his coaching
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Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know nothing about bball coaching so I can safely say that’s not my problem. I don’t like oscar because under him our best regular season teams have flopped in the tournament and every time I’ve made peace with us sucking as part of a transition to a new coach we squeak into the tournament and threaten a deep run.
I only loved Frank because we were practically guaranteed a tournament spot and first round win every year. Made each game more fun to me at least instead of feeling like the results are all randomized somehow.
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Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, tht's the problem.
When people struggle with enjoying fun wins, that's certainly the problem.
Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know nothing about bball coaching so I can safely say that’s not my problem. I don’t like oscar because under him our best regular season teams have flopped in the tournament and every time I’ve made peace with us sucking as part of a transition to a new coach we squeak into the tournament and threaten a deep run.
I only loved Frank because we were practically guaranteed a tournament spot and first round win every year. Made each game more fun to me at least instead of feeling like the results are all randomized somehow.
When LHC Bill Snyder was winning 7 games a year and going to bowl games every year, the same people were saying they'd rather our program be like TCU's with high highs and low lows. It's not hypocrisy but it's certainly inconsistent based on never being happy with what you've got.
People also bitched about playing style under Frank and he frequently needed late season runs to get into the tournament. He never under played a seed but he only over played a seed once, when we beat USC.
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King oscar continues to surprise and upset his most ardent haters.
this team is very frustrating and fun.
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I think I've said it before but oscar has earned the right to retire at KSU
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Frank has 2 20-win seasons in a decade 🤮
I don’t know what to think of this team. We look as good or better than every team but Baylor in our conference games. Pretty good for a rebuilding year. Too bad our record is crap from covid and doing dumb things. Our stars are better than expected but depth is worse. Dunno if I’d fire or keep oscar, but I just hope Nijel sticks around.
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If you think about it, Nijel probably is more valuable than most coaches except the elite, if we’re talking a 2 year time frame. Would you rather have Nijel or Beard for 2 years?
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Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, tht's the problem.
When people struggle with enjoying fun wins, that's certainly the problem.
Imagine not being able to have fun watching sports because you don't like a 65 year old man because he doesn't coach basketball like you want him to. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know nothing about bball coaching so I can safely say that’s not my problem. I don’t like oscar because under him our best regular season teams have flopped in the tournament and every time I’ve made peace with us sucking as part of a transition to a new coach we squeak into the tournament and threaten a deep run.
I only loved Frank because we were practically guaranteed a tournament spot and first round win every year. Made each game more fun to me at least instead of feeling like the results are all randomized somehow.
When LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder was winning 7 games a year and going to bowl games every year, the same people were saying they'd rather our program be like TCU's with high highs and low lows. It's not hypocrisy but it's certainly inconsistent based on never being happy with what you've got.
People also bitched about playing style under Frank and he frequently needed late season runs to get into the tournament. He never under played a seed but he only over played a seed once, when we beat USC.
I don’t necessarily disagree with any of this but I will say my opinion of oscar would be pretty different if he consistently made the tournament, so it’s not exactly fair to me even to compare him to a consistent 7 win FB season type coach.
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If you think about it, Nijel probably is more valuable than most coaches except the elite, if we’re talking a 2 year time frame. Would you rather have Nijel or Beard for 2 years?
Beard. I think he could coach every single team in the conference into the tournament.
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we kicked his ass
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we kicked his ass
We split with them and you might want to check the standings.
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If you think about it, Nijel probably is more valuable than most coaches except the elite, if we’re talking a 2 year time frame. Would you rather have Nijel or Beard for 2 years?
Beard. I think he could coach every single team in the conference into the tournament.
Do you think he could coach K-State into the tournament without Pack? I know that's not what you said, but the question made me think of this. I don't think he could. We'll see if we can get to the tournament with Pack and without Beard.
I do think that if you put Pack on any team in the conference, they would be in the tournament (assuming OK St was eligible).
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I hate oscar being our coach but saturday ruled except for the start and the last possession.
I never follow pressers but did anyone explain WTF happened on that last possession? Just nowell not knowing the clock?
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I hate oscar being our coach but saturday ruled except for the start and the last possession.
I never follow pressers but did anyone explain WTF happened on that last possession? Just nowell not knowing the clock?
I looked at the post-game quotes on Kstatesports and didn't see anybody ask about it.
I think Nowell knew the clock and just really wanted the shot, particularly with little risk in a tie game. He has to be smarter than that though. It's one thing if he wants a 3 in that situation but he's too small to be able to just stand there and launch one over a defender at the end of the clock. He has to work a little more if he's going to get that off.
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If you think about it, Nijel probably is more valuable than most coaches except the elite, if we’re talking a 2 year time frame. Would you rather have Nijel or Beard for 2 years?
Beard. I think he could coach every single team in the conference into the tournament.
Do you think he could coach K-State into the tournament without Pack? I know that's not what you said, but the question made me think of this. I don't think he could. We'll see if we can get to the tournament with Pack and without Beard.
I do think that if you put Pack on any team in the conference, they would be in the tournament (assuming OK St was eligible).
Yes, I do think he could coach K-State, without Pack, into the tournament. Look at the rosters he had at Tech, hell look at the roster he has now, those aren't star players. He had one elite player, Jarrett Culver, and he was one shot away from winning a national championship.
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eff it let's run this crap back another 2 years :bball:
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Win 3 more Big 12 games and we will run it back next year
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even if we win 2 and miss the ncaas i'd feel good about next year. if we have a similar portal haul as last year, i think we'll be solidly top 4. then probably the top team nijel's senior year. and then oscar can ride into the sunset
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crap tons of holes on this roster and next year you have to replace a guy averaging a double double and probably Miguel. Pack and Nowell is a super fun guard combo tho and if they make the tournament and can play the portal right could have another bubble team next year as well.
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Y'all might think I'm crazy but even if he makes the tournament I'm still not sure he's safe. This program has zero buzz, tickets went tonight for $6. There's no one going to these games and that matters to Gene. I think he still retires Bill in '18 even if he beats Iowa State and I don't know if oscar is out of the woods.
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crap tons of holes on this roster and next year you have to replace a guy averaging a double double and probably Miguel. Pack and Nowell is a super fun guard combo tho and if they make the tournament and can play the portal right could have another bubble team next year as well.
I also think Selton is transferring and next year's roster is going to be a mess, whether Pack returns or not.
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Wouldn’t upset me at all if he gets forced out even after making the tourney. Not feeling too confident in oscar’s ability to land a replacement level player for Mark Smith next year or develop one of the bigs on the roster into a P5 caliber post player.
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I hate oscar being our coach but saturday ruled except for the start and the last possession.
I never follow pressers but did anyone explain WTF happened on that last possession? Just nowell not knowing the clock?
I looked at the post-game quotes on Kstatesports and didn't see anybody ask about it.
I think Nowell knew the clock and just really wanted the shot, particularly with little risk in a tie game. He has to be smarter than that though. It's one thing if he wants a 3 in that situation but he's too small to be able to just stand there and launch one over a defender at the end of the clock. He has to work a little more if he's going to get that off.
Nowell admitted to waving off the play and the timeout from the bench.
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we'll have 3-4 cracks at a decent replacement. also it's a much better situation than last year.
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Y'all might think I'm crazy but even if he makes the tournament I'm still not sure he's safe. This program has zero buzz, tickets went tonight for $6. There's no one going to these games and that matters to Gene. I think he still retires Bill in '18 even if he beats Iowa State and I don't know if oscar is out of the woods.
This is where I’m at.
No one was there tonight (students were good) and you’d think huggy would bring some people in. Winnable conference games should draw.
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I don’t really think it’s oscar’s fault that people aren’t showing up. At least not if he’s winning at an acceptable rate.
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I don’t really think it’s oscar’s fault that people aren’t showing up. At least not if he’s winning at an acceptable rate.
I think people tuned in at the start of the season, figured we would finish last in the Big 12, and don't even check the scores to see that we actually aren't last, but are a middling team in the bottom half of the standings.
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Y'all might think I'm crazy but even if he makes the tournament I'm still not sure he's safe. This program has zero buzz, tickets went tonight for $6. There's no one going to these games and that matters to Gene. I think he still retires Bill in '18 even if he beats Iowa State and I don't know if oscar is out of the woods.
I agree. Its a bummer to see so many empty seats but that doesn't happen in a vacuum, that's a result of several consecutive years middling and generally non-competitive, non-entertaining basketball that can't even get us an NIT bid. When we started conference play 0-4 everyone was comfortable with the idea of oscar being gone at the end of the season but even in the last page of this thread i'm seeing stunted fall into the trap of what so many of our fans do where we try to find some silver lining and some reason to be optimistic about next year and basically what that means is we MIGHT be semi-competitive as long as a lot of pieces fall exactly into place and ofcourse, not every single one of those pieces fall into place and we are right back where we were.
Aside from a deep run in the NCAA tourney (as in Elite 8 or better) i think its very reasonable that oscar is not out of the woods. Even with the E8 season 4 years ago, its been a coach who has been to the tournament about 50% of the time, and only 1 of those times made it out of the round of 64. If that resume is acceptable, then yeah we should expect to see the place 3/4 empty. If we expect better attendance then we are going to need to expect better from a head coach.
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I don’t really think it’s oscar’s fault that people aren’t showing up. At least not if he’s winning at an acceptable rate.
I think people tuned in at the start of the season, figured we would finish last in the Big 12, and don't even check the scores to see that we actually aren't last, but are a middling team in the bottom half of the standings.
This was pretty much me. If I didn’t get final score ESPN alerts, I would have completely forgotten it was bball season until mid March.
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What trap, we are 6-3 the last 9 conference games.
We really just have 1 player to replace. I think we could improve on Massoud, Bradford, Kasubke, even Miguel through the portal. This is a really good situation for a transfer to come into, just need some depth. Getting a new coach is a huge crapshoot. Might as well delay the crapshoot when we’re looking at 2 good to potentially really good seasons. Also our offense is looking good and scoring points. What more can you ask for in a rebuild year? That being said, keeping Pack and Nowell is the most important thing.
Before the season I predicted and would be happy with being on the bubble, and here we are, right on the bubble.
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What trap, we are 6-3 the last 9 conference games.
We really just have 1 player to replace. I think we could improve on Massoud, Bradford, Kasubke, even Miguel through the portal. This is a really good situation for a transfer to come into, just need some depth. Getting a new coach is a huge crapshoot. Might as well delay the crapshoot when we’re looking at 2 good to potentially really good seasons. Also our offense is looking good and scoring points. What more can you ask for in a rebuild year? That being said, keeping Pack and Nowell is the most important thing.
Bless your heart with your roster optimism.
Also there is no such thing as a rebuilding year in college basketball, you especially don't get one when you've hit on exactly three high school recruits, one of which got progressively worse in his time here, in 5 years.
I hope Selton stays but if he transfers I don't think we'll get a better player. It's pretty obvious Logan Landers isn't a long term solution.
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we got 2 players a lot better than miguel through the portal. say we were to pick up 3 selton miguels and lose some combo of bradford/kasubke/miguel/other, i think we'd be looking good for next year.
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Bless your heart
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You’ll see 😤😤
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From ESPN:
The Wildcats have exceeded expectations this season, although a 19-point loss at Kansas on Tuesday dropped them 14-13 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12. oscar Weber hasn't led Kansas State to the NCAA tournament since 2019, when the Wildcats won a share of the Big 12 regular-season title. They're just 13-38 in league play since. Weber's buyout is $1 million and it drops to $500,000 after April 1. Weber, 65, could also opt to step down on his own. In terms of potential names if the job opens, there could be a long list. McCasland, Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Missouri State's Dana Ford, New Mexico State's Chris Jans and some high-major assistants have all been mentioned as possibilities.
:gocho:
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Those names suck. WOOF!
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Several really good opportunities listed by ESPN, I’m surprised that they think we could land some of those coaches.
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I think I want Matt McMahon now. Unless someone tells me someone better and then I'll want them probably.
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From ESPN:
The Wildcats have exceeded expectations this season, although a 19-point loss at Kansas on Tuesday dropped them 14-13 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12. oscar Weber hasn't led Kansas State to the NCAA tournament since 2019, when the Wildcats won a share of the Big 12 regular-season title. They're just 13-38 in league play since. Weber's buyout is $1 million and it drops to $500,000 after April 1. Weber, 65, could also opt to step down on his own. In terms of potential names if the job opens, there could be a long list. McCasland, Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Missouri State's Dana Ford, New Mexico State's Chris Jans and some high-major assistants have all been mentioned as possibilities.
:gocho:
I thought he was staying, CHONGS? I'm fine with any of those except for Jans, we aren't hiring him anyway so it's whatever. I don't know much about Linder but the eye on college basketball podcast talked about him extensively earlier this week.
Several really good opportunities listed by ESPN, I’m surprised that they think we could land some of those coaches.
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Oh he's staying, I was just happy to see Todd mentioned. He might be just ready enough for us in about three years.
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From ESPN:
The Wildcats have exceeded expectations this season, although a 19-point loss at Kansas on Tuesday dropped them 14-13 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12. oscar Weber hasn't led Kansas State to the NCAA tournament since 2019, when the Wildcats won a share of the Big 12 regular-season title. They're just 13-38 in league play since. Weber's buyout is $1 million and it drops to $500,000 after April 1. Weber, 65, could also opt to step down on his own. In terms of potential names if the job opens, there could be a long list. McCasland, Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Missouri State's Dana Ford, New Mexico State's Chris Jans and some high-major assistants have all been mentioned as possibilities.
:gocho:
Here's an extended list of job candidates from the same article. I'd rather keep oscar than get any of the scrubs from the getting back in section.
High-profile names to watch
Mick Cronin, UCLA: Cronin is the wild card for Louisville. If he has real interest in the job, he should be a no-brainer hire. But he's already led the Bruins to a Final Four, is making $4 million a year and enjoys the West Coast, by all accounts. Cronin taking Louisville could really set in motion a wild carousel.
Andy Enfield, USC: Enfield was linked very quickly with the Maryland job, given his ties to the area and his time spent in College Park getting his MBA. His name has continued to linger for the opening, too, and he's very much a legitimate candidate.
Ed Cooley, Providence: Cooley is a national coach of the year candidate after leading the Friars to the top 10 and a potential Big East regular-season title. He's also near the top of Maryland's list, although most indications point to him preferring to stay at Providence -- and possibly signing a lucrative deal.
Kevin Willard, Seton Hall: Willard has been mentioned with jobs for the past few cycles, but Maryland could really have some legs. He, like Enfield, was linked to the opening almost immediately and has remained in the mix. If he doesn't get the job, could Seton Hall look to give him a new deal?
Steve Forbes, Wake Forest: Wake Forest won six games in Forbes' first season in Winston-Salem -- and the Demon Deacons are now 21-7 in his second season, squarely in the mix for the NCAA tournament. He's won everywhere he's been, both as an assistant and head coach, and could be a sneaky option for bigger jobs that open.
Nate Oats, Alabama: As mentioned, Maryland made overtures early in the process -- and it wouldn't be a surprise if other programs do too, given his success at Buffalo and the way he's turned around Alabama. But his buyout is still $10.4 million and drops to $9.8 million in a few weeks.
Mike Boynton, Oklahoma State: Boynton did one of the best coaching jobs in the country last season, guiding the Cowboys to a 4-seed in the NCAA tournament led by No. 1 draft pick Cade Cunningham. They've fallen back to the pack this season, just 13-14 overall and 6-9 in the Big 12, but he could still be a name at South Carolina. However, his buyout is still very high after signing a lucrative new deal last April.
Rick Pitino, Iona: Pitino rumors will never die. He's already been mentioned with the Maryland job, and he will 100% be connected to at least one or two more jobs before the carousel stops spinning. In two years at Iona, he went to the NCAA tournament and won a regular-season title and is clearly one of the best coaches of his generation. But it's hard to take the majority of Pitino rumors too seriously.
Mike White, Florida: I honestly think White gets a bit of a bad rap from Florida fans simply because he's not Billy Donovan. He hasn't led the Gators to the heights of the previous regime, but he's gone to four straight NCAA tournaments -- and won at least one game in all four appearances, including the Elite Eight run in 2017. That said, Tuesday's loss to Arkansas leaves them on the wrong side of the bubble and he'll likely be feeling some heat next season. Could he look to get out early?
Jason Hart, G-League Ignite: Hart developed a reputation as one of the best assistant coaches on the West Coast during his time under Enfield at USC, but couldn't land a head-coaching job. So he left to take over the G League Ignite team, and he's impressed people who have been around the club this season. If a job opens out West this spring -- or if Enfield leaves for another job -- Hart will be near the top of the list.
Mid-major names to monitor
Dennis Gates, Cleveland State: Gates was linked to nearly every high-major job available last spring after guiding Cleveland State to the NCAA tournament, but returned to the Vikings and promptly won the Horizon League title again. He has high-major experience as an assistant coach under Leonard Hamilton at Florida State and will be involved with a slew of jobs again.
Niko Medved, Colorado State: Medved has had plenty of regular season success at Furman, Drake and now Colorado State -- but the one thing that's been missing from his résumé is an NCAA tournament appearance. That should change this season, as the Rams are 21-4 overall and 11-4 in the Mountain West. He's from Minnesota, but spent a significant amount of time in the Southeast.
Matt McMahon, Murray State: The Racers have been maybe the best mid-major team in the country this season, sitting inside the top 25 at 26-2 overall and 16-0 in the Ohio Valley Conference with two games remaining. McMahon has been to two NCAA tournaments in his seven seasons, including a win over Marquette in 2019 with Ja Morant running the show.
Lamont Paris, Chattanooga: Paris' name started buzzing among industry sources last summer as someone who could really boost his stock and get involved in high-major jobs this spring -- and he now has Chattanooga atop the Southern Conference heading down the stretch. He's been at Chattanooga for five seasons, but his seven seasons as an assistant at Wisconsin are crucial, too.
Grant McCasland, North Texas: McCasland has done a tremendous job with North Texas this season, after the Mean Green were picked sixth in the preseason Conference USA poll. They're going to win the league after going to the NCAA tournament and beating Purdue there last season. McCasland also has high-major experience from his time at Baylor, where he was an assistant under Scott Drew from 2011 to 2016.
Mark Pope, BYU: The Cougars are struggling down the stretch of the season and will need to win some games in the WCC tournament to hear their name on Selection Sunday -- but Pope's reputation is good enough to get him in the mix regardless. He's won at least 20 games in each of the past four seasons and he's on track to do it again this season.
Drew Valentine, Loyola Chicago: He's only been at Loyola Chicago for one season, but the Ramblers would be in the NCAA tournament if the season ended today. Valentine was an assistant under Porter Moser at Loyola the past four seasons and also spent time under Greg Kampe as an assistant and under Tom Izzo as a GA.
Eric Henderson, South Dakota State: Henderson has quietly been one of the most successful mid-major coaches over the past three years, winning at least a share of three consecutive Summit League regular-season titles -- and now leading the Jackrabbits to a 16-0 record in conference play. He's missing an NCAA tournament appearance, though, which could change very soon.
Todd Golden, San Francisco: Golden has a reputation in the industry as a really sharp, young coach -- and after struggling last season, bounced back with 22 wins so far this season. The Dons seem poised for the NCAA tournament, too. Only 36 years old, Golden also spent two seasons as an assistant coach at Auburn.
Bashir Mason, Wagner: Mason was one of the hottest coaches in the country early in his tenure at Wagner, but then went through a couple of down seasons -- before bouncing back with a 13-5 NEC record last season and a 13-1 campaign this season. Despite being in charge of the Seahawks for 10 seasons, he's still only 38 years old.
Jeff Linder, Wyoming: Before last week's loss at New Mexico, Linder had Wyoming inside the top 25 and on track for the Mountain West regular-season title. Given that the Cowboys were picked eighth in the preseason, that's a wildly impressive feat. Linder has turned things around quickly in Laramie, just as he did in four seasons at Northern Colorado.
James Jones, Yale: All Jones does is win, even if he's rarely linked to bigger jobs -- with the exception of St. John's a few years back. But Yale has a half-game lead on Princeton in the Ivy standings with two games remaining. If the Bulldogs win their final two games, it will be Jones' fifth conference title in the past seven Ivy seasons and potentially their fourth NCAA tournament appearance over that stretch.
Terrence Johnson, Texas State: Two years as a head coach, two Sun Belt regular-season titles. Johnson took over Texas State on an interim basis last season, guided the Bobcats to a league title before being named permanent head coach -- and then went out and won the regular-season title again this season. He's well-connected and experienced in the New Orleans and Houston high school and AAU scenes and is a name on the rise.
Bob Richey, Furman: The one thing keeping Richey below some of the other names on this list is his lack of a title, either regular season or postseason. But he won 73 games his first three seasons at Furman, finished near the top of the SoCon last season and is just behind Chattanooga in the league again this season. If he gets to the NCAA tournament, his stock could skyrocket.
Jeff Boals, Ohio: Boals was involved at Penn State last season after leading the Bobcats to the NCAA tournament and then upsetting Virginia in the first round. He has Ohio back in the conference title hunt this season, tied for first with Toledo with three games remaining. Boals has achieved head-coaching success at two different mid-majors and also has loads of experience as an assistant under Thad Matta at Ohio State.
John Becker, Vermont: At some point, Becker has to get a bigger job, right? He's been linked with jobs for years, given his outrageous levels of success with the Catamounts. Becker has won at least a share of six straight regular-season titles in the America East and has also won four conference tournaments during his tenure.
Jared Grasso, Bryant: After developing a reputation as a terrific recruiter during his time as an assistant coach under Tim Cluess at Iona, Grasso struggled for a couple seasons as the head coach at Bryant. But he's found his footing and has the Bulldogs on Wagner's heels in the NEC. He's recruiting transfers at a high level and is well-connected in the Northeast.
Others who could move: Casey Alexander, Belmont; Matt Langel, Colgate; Darian DeVries, Drake; Chris Jans, New Mexico State; Dustin Kerns, Appalachian State; Dana Ford, Missouri State; Ritchie McKay, Liberty; Preston Spradlin, Morehead State; Robert Jones, Norfolk State; Austin Claunch, Nicholls
Getting back in?
Archie Miller: Miller was one of the hottest coaches in the country after four straight NCAA tournaments at Dayton, but he didn't get to the tournament in any of his four seasons at Indiana and was sacked last spring. His name was briefly linked to Cincinnati when it opened and it will likely be mentioned several times again this spring.
Sean Miller: As mentioned, Archie's older brother is likely going to be the top candidate whenever Pittsburgh opens -- but he's also been linked to the Maryland job. He had plenty of success at Arizona and Xavier, but it's unclear if any school will hire him before the NCAA reaches a decision on any potential punishments stemming from its investigation into Arizona.
Thad Matta: Matta's name has been floating around a few coaching cycles now, including last season when he was linked to Penn State and Indiana before he became Indiana's associate athletic director for men's basketball administration. If he does want to get back into coaching, Butler could be a potential opening.
Steve Wojciechowski: After seven seasons with Marquette, Wojciechowski was fired last spring. He went to a pair of NCAA tournaments with the Golden Eagles, and has 15 years as an assistant at Duke under his belt. I don't imagine he would take a job just to take a job, but his name could pop up around openings.
Steve Prohm: Prohm was fired by Iowa State last season after an 0-18 Big 12 campaign, but he did go to three NCAA tournaments in his six seasons in Ames. Before that, he was highly successful in four seasons at Murray State. He's already been linked to Illinois State and potentially East Carolina if it opens.
Paul Hewitt: Hewitt hasn't coached in college since 2015, when he was let go by George Mason, but there's been some talk he's looking to get back in. He was linked to the St. John's job before they hired Mike Anderson. Hewitt spent 18 years as a head coach at Siena, Georgia Tech and George Mason, then joined the LA Clippers organization as a scout. He also coached their G League team last year.
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@MakeItRain if you had to choose between Kim English or KT Turner who you goin with
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@MakeItRain if you had to choose between Kim English or KT Turner who you goin with
Eh, I don't know if there's a significant difference between the two. I think really plugged in K-State basketball fans would really be excited about Kim and he's the most likely of the two that would instantly energize the fan base. However, there would definitely be a vocal minority that just couldn't handle him being a Mizzou grad and they'd start chirping the first time he didn't land a recruit or transfer target.
I'd go with Kim if I had to choose but both are complete dice rolls, as is anyone else we'd hire who isn't Rick Pitino.
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Kim would just be fun. Win or lose. I'm kinda ready for some silliness in my life.
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He’s got a stud wing he could bring from George Mason too
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We should all be emailing Gene and telling him it's Pitino or else.
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Remember when like half the fan base wanted to hire Doug gottlieb?
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Pitino
Mack
Kim English
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Remember when like half the fan base wanted to hire Doug gottlieb?
Yes I do in fact remember that.
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Let's keep oscar.
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if we hire dana ford we will have officially announced our intention to never care about or invest in college basketball again. and I'm fine with that because I'm way ahead of you KSU.
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Keep oscar.
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Keep oscar.
:ROFL:
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Let's keep oscar.
Your repetitiveness with this is becoming daxian. Can we just have a conversation without shitposts?
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i think it’s an honest observation, oscar is the best we’re going to get
what has gene done that inspires confidence that he would hire anything but average
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it’s time for a truce with oscar
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Chris Mack? Bro's idea, but why the eff not?
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Let's keep oscar.
Your repetitiveness with this is becoming daxian. Can we just have a conversation without shitposts?
Not a shitpost. I'd rather keep oscar than hire who's been rumored to be our target.
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Remember when like half the fan base wanted to hire Doug gottlieb?
:lol:
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i think it’s an honest observation, oscar is the best we’re going to get
what has gene done that inspires confidence that he would hire anything but average
His football hire has been better than average. If someone told me the next guy was going to be an 8 year SLTH, I'd take it
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Let's keep oscar.
Your repetitiveness with this is becoming daxian. Can we just have a conversation without shitposts?
Not a shitpost. I'd rather keep oscar than hire who's been rumored to be our target.
I hadn't heard Dana Ford before you mentioned him, but how have you convinced yourself that
1, he's the top target and 2, he'd be worse than any other young G5 shot in the dark we're likely to hire. Everybody was slobbering over Porter Mosier, he had a final four, and now OU is going to miss the tournament for the first time since 2017.
I can't take this board and this fan base shitting on the hire before he's interviewed. We just had a decade of people cheering to eventually be right, I'd love to get just a single year break from that.
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I liked the Klieman hire. I've only disliked one hire KSU has made in my lifetime.
I'm sorry I'm not pumped right now about a .500 MVC coach. If we hire him, maybe they'll convince me, I'll give them a chance I swear.
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Plus I don't like his connection to Gregggg, a coach I really dislike but that's pretty petty of me.
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Amazing
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Plus I don't like his connection to Gregggg, a coach I really dislike but that's pretty petty of me.
Gregggg's a piece of crap. But this guy was just an employee
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Who is the Gregggg tree coach being referenced here
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I refuse to believe the Dana ford stuff. Like, no way. I mean maybe way but seriously like no way.
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Wait people think we are going to hire a dude with zero total years of P5 coaching experience?
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Wait people think we are going to hire a dude with zero total years of P5 coaching experience?
I FOR rough ridin' SURE HOPE NOT!
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Shane Southwell, we’re a project School… take a chance
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Just hire Kim English and let him recruit GRCOAT 2.0 and let’s see if he can tactician against self and drew
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kim english would be the hire that I believe most of us would get behind
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I refuse to believe the Dana ford stuff. Like, no way. I mean maybe way but seriously like no way.
Where is this coming from, KSO? There's no way Gene is interviewing coaches still in season.
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Wait people think we are going to hire a dude with zero total years of P5 coaching experience?
I FOR rough ridin' SURE HOPE NOT!
That makes 2 smart people (u and me)!
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Mack/English train
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HIBBQ posters... is Chris Mack a realistic option? I would be on-board.
Tom
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Idk but he needs a job and to prove himself again.
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HIBBQ posters... is Chris Mack a realistic option? I would be on-board.
Tom
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No he is not, Gene and co are going to want to run a clean program and he has all kinds of baggage.
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Didn’t we hire a guy that was fired previously?
Now people want a guy that was fired mid season? Woof
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Didn’t we hire a guy that was fired previously?
Now people want a guy that was fired mid season? Woof
First of all wetwillie is 100% correct. Secondly, he was not fired, he legitimately quit. CBB writers close to him have said he's probably going to take a year off.
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Didn’t we hire a guy that was fired previously?
Now people want a guy that was fired mid season? Woof
First of all wetwillie is 100% correct. Secondly, he was not fired, he legitimately quit. CBB writers close to him have said he's probably going to take a year off.
Quitting mid-season is very slightly better than being fired mid-season to me
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Didn’t we hire a guy that was fired previously?
Now people want a guy that was fired mid season? Woof
First of all wetwillie is 100% correct. Secondly, he was not fired, he legitimately quit. CBB writers close to him have said he's probably going to take a year off.
Quitting mid-season is very slightly better than being fired mid-season to me
It got real toxic there, yes, it was a situation that Mack created but it was pretty bad. Also the Louisville AD sucks ballsacks and taints.
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Cats bball needs some buzz, big time. I don't want to learn to speak chinese (sorry Jin) so give me English
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Ah, the ol' "reverse Altman". Nice.
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Another name maybe worth thinking about is old friend Erik Pastrana
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Eye on College Basketball speculating that Mike White might be doing the old job reset.
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https://meangreensports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/grant-mccasland/264
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Midwestern State Mustangs (Lone Star Conference) (2009–2011)
2009–10 Midwestern State 30–3 10–2 1st NCAA Division II Elite Eight
2010–11 Midwestern State 25–9 9–5 2nd NCAA Division II Elite Eight
Midwestern State: 55–12 (.821) 19–7 (.735)
Arkansas State Red Wolves (Sun Belt Conference) (2016–2017)
2016–17 Arkansas State 20–12 11–7 T–3rd
Arkansas State: 20–12 (.625) 11–7 (.611)
North Texas Mean Green (Conference USA) (2017–present)
2017–18 North Texas 20–18 8–10 T–7th CBI Champions
2018–19 North Texas 21–12 8–10 T–9th
2019–20 North Texas 20–11 14–4 1st Postseason Cancelled
2020–21 North Texas 18–10 9–5 3rd (West) NCAA Division I Round of 32
2021–22North Texas 22–4 15–1 1st (West)
North Texas: 101–55 (.647) 54–30 (.643)
Total: 176–79 (.690)
COACHING EXPERIENCE:
• 1999-2001 Texas Tech, director of operations
• 2001-03 Northeastern JC, assistant coach
• 2004-09 Midland College, head coach
• 2009-11 Midwestern State, head coach
• 2011-16 Baylor, assistant coach
• 2016-17 Arkansas State, head coach
• 2017-pres. North Texas, head coach
POSTSEASON EXPERIENCE
• 2004-05 NJCAA, Elite Eight (Midland)
• 2006-07 NJCAA, National Champions (Midland)
• 2008-09 NJCAA, Finals (Midland)
• 2009-10 NCAA Division II, Elite Eight (Midwestern State)
• 2010-11 NCAA Division II, Elite Eight (Midwestern State)
• 2011-12 NCAA, Elite Eight (Baylor)
• 2012-13 NIT, champions (Baylor)
• 2013-14 NCAA, Sweet 16 (Baylor)
• 2014-15 NCAA, First Round (Baylor)
• 2015-16 NCAA, First Round (Baylor)
• 2017-18 CBI Champions (North Texas)
• 2020-21 NCAA Tournament, Round of 32 (North Texas)
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Head coaching experience, B12 experience, and recruiting history in the region sound pretty good to me.
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https://meangreensports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/grant-mccasland/264
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Midwestern State Mustangs (Lone Star Conference) (2009–2011)
2009–10 Midwestern State 30–3 10–2 1st NCAA Division II Elite Eight
2010–11 Midwestern State 25–9 9–5 2nd NCAA Division II Elite Eight
Midwestern State: 55–12 (.821) 19–7 (.735)
Arkansas State Red Wolves (Sun Belt Conference) (2016–2017)
2016–17 Arkansas State 20–12 11–7 T–3rd
Arkansas State: 20–12 (.625) 11–7 (.611)
North Texas Mean Green (Conference USA) (2017–present)
2017–18 North Texas 20–18 8–10 T–7th CBI Champions
2018–19 North Texas 21–12 8–10 T–9th
2019–20 North Texas 20–11 14–4 1st Postseason Cancelled
2020–21 North Texas 18–10 9–5 3rd (West) NCAA Division I Round of 32
2021–22North Texas 22–4 15–1 1st (West)
North Texas: 101–55 (.647) 54–30 (.643)
Total: 176–79 (.690)
COACHING EXPERIENCE:
• 1999-2001 Texas Tech, director of operations
• 2001-03 Northeastern JC, assistant coach
• 2004-09 Midland College, head coach
• 2009-11 Midwestern State, head coach
• 2011-16 Baylor, assistant coach
• 2016-17 Arkansas State, head coach
• 2017-pres. North Texas, head coach
POSTSEASON EXPERIENCE
• 2004-05 NJCAA, Elite Eight (Midland)
• 2006-07 NJCAA, National Champions (Midland)
• 2008-09 NJCAA, Finals (Midland)
• 2009-10 NCAA Division II, Elite Eight (Midwestern State)
• 2010-11 NCAA Division II, Elite Eight (Midwestern State)
• 2011-12 NCAA, Elite Eight (Baylor)
• 2012-13 NIT, champions (Baylor)
• 2013-14 NCAA, Sweet 16 (Baylor)
• 2014-15 NCAA, First Round (Baylor)
• 2015-16 NCAA, First Round (Baylor)
• 2017-18 CBI Champions (North Texas)
• 2020-21 NCAA Tournament, Round of 32 (North Texas)
SOLD
Good Find dax
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Head coaching experience, B12 experience, and recruiting history in the region sound pretty good to me.
If you told me he was bringing Alvin BrooksIII as AHC/first chair assistant I’d be beating the drum as loud as Dax for this guy.
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I’m not that big of a Stan for this guy. But I think he’s a solid candidate if that’s the direction they head.
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I’d still prefer Kim English but I wouldn’t melt down if it was McCasland.
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the important question no one seems to be asking is who does gene keady like??
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the important question no one seems to be asking is who does gene keady like??
Your mom!
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I’d still prefer Kim English but I wouldn’t melt down if it was McCasland.
is Kim English a good coach? he's been a head coach for all of 1 season, is 8th in the A-10 with a 7-8 conference record. does not sound like a P5 ready coach to me
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I’d still prefer Kim English but I wouldn’t melt down if it was McCasland.
is Kim English a good coach? he's been a head coach for all of 1 season, is 8th in the A-10 with a 7-8 conference record. does not sound like a P5 ready coach to me
Yes he is a good coach. UNT finished 9th and 7th in CUSA first two years under McCasland and now he’s whipping ass.
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I’d still prefer Kim English but I wouldn’t melt down if it was McCasland.
is Kim English a good coach? he's been a head coach for all of 1 season, is 8th in the A-10 with a 7-8 conference record. does not sound like a P5 ready coach to me
Yes he is a good coach. UNT finished 9th and 7th in CUSA first two years under McCasland and now he’s whipping ass.
right but no one was trying to hire mccasland 3 yrs ago. why would we hire english when he hasn't proven much yet
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I’d still prefer Kim English but I wouldn’t melt down if it was McCasland.
is Kim English a good coach? he's been a head coach for all of 1 season, is 8th in the A-10 with a 7-8 conference record. does not sound like a P5 ready coach to me
Yes he is a good coach. UNT finished 9th and 7th in CUSA first two years under McCasland and now he’s whipping ass.
right but no one was trying to hire mccasland 3 yrs ago. why would we hire english when he hasn't proven much yet
Because he’s a lights out recruiter and we are in the high risk high reward tier of the P5 pecking order. I’d take Underwood, Forbes, Mack or Miller but we are likely going to have to take a chance on someone who is not a sure thing.
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I’d still prefer Kim English but I wouldn’t melt down if it was McCasland.
is Kim English a good coach? he's been a head coach for all of 1 season, is 8th in the A-10 with a 7-8 conference record. does not sound like a P5 ready coach to me
Yes he is a good coach. UNT finished 9th and 7th in CUSA first two years under McCasland and now he’s whipping ass.
right but no one was trying to hire mccasland 3 yrs ago. why would we hire english when he hasn't proven much yet
Because he’s a lights out recruiter and we are in the high risk high reward tier of the P5 pecking order. I’d take Underwood, Forbes, Mack or Miller but we are likely going to have to take a chance on someone who is not a sure thing.
English feels like a bit too much of a reach for me right now. But, would be happier w him than keeping oscar.
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the important question no one seems to be asking is who does gene keady like??
Your mom!
Hey bud, that's my schtick but good one! :drool: (ftp://:drool:)
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This article, lol SMDH
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2022/03/03/if-k-state-moves-on-from-oscar-weber-three-notables-names-should-be-debated-considered/
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This article, lol SMDH
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2022/03/03/if-k-state-moves-on-from-oscar-weber-three-notables-names-should-be-debated-considered/
Joe Matthieu is a total dipshit
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massive chud
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Believing there's a chance that Brad comes home is slightly less delusional than hoping BV was going to replace Snyder. Right?
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I think he wants to but we aren’t going to pay his market value and buyout
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Believing there's a chance that Brad comes home is slightly less delusional than hoping BV was going to replace Snyder. Right?
That wasn't the objectional part of the column
I think he wants to but we aren’t going to pay his market value and buyout
Now's the time for Garth Gardiner to put his money where his mouth is. I believe we have the donors to get it done, it's just a matter of whether or not they will and if he truly wants to come back.
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Should be a good number of fired coaches to choose from next week and Gene will wait until April to save that half mill. Book it
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crap, he better, the final four wouldn't even have started by April 1st.
There's legitimately no coach who could get fired between now and the final four that I'd want, not a single damn one.
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crap, he better, the final four wouldn't even have started by April 1st.
There's legitimately no coach who could get fired between now and the final four that I'd want, not a single damn one.
You’re not kidding. What school would hire a coach that got fired between the end of the season and the final four?
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crap, he better, the final four wouldn't even have started by April 1st.
There's legitimately no coach who could get fired between now and the final four that I'd want, not a single damn one.
You’re not kidding. What school would hire a coach that got fired between the end of the season and the final four?
https://youtu.be/rQ6N-sb7SVQ
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I’ll never not want Brad. It’s an absolute joke he’ll probably never coach here. Hugely disappointing. Worse than Venables by a large magnitude.
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I’ll never not want Brad. It’s an absolute joke he’ll probably never coach here. Hugely disappointing. Worse than Venables by a large magnitude.
Yeah :frown:
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I don't see K-State paying a men's basketball coach $1m+ more than the football coach. This unfortunately is why Brad Underwood will never come back.
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i get the sense Brad wants to be at k-state 100x more than BV ever did, but i doubt it will end up mattering
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I would not be surprised if we get a Huggins-to-WV like opportunity to get Brad down the road.
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Risky as all hell, but I think it'd be worth a shot:
https://auburntigers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/steven-pearl/3606
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I don't want anyone I like to come to KSU unless they're given absolute autonomy and independence from kstatesports as to running and marketing the program.
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Auburn just gave him a new contract.
But he's got that fanbase very fired up about basketball.
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I don't want anyone I like to come to KSU unless they're given absolute autonomy and independence from kstatesports as to running and marketing the program.
weirdo
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I would not be surprised if we get a Huggins-to-WV like opportunity to get Brad down the road.
the AD that hired Brad moving on will help so keep cheering against Bert
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Illinois will be happy to part with Brad when he starts sucking. Then, he'll be all ours!
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scott davenport.
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I would not be surprised if we get a Huggins-to-WV like opportunity to get Brad down the road.
This is what I'm hoping for. Brad's old enough that this might be his last chance to come home.
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How bad do you want brad?
Are you mad for brad?
Let’s get glad with brad.
Wouldn’t it be so rad?
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How bad do you want brad?
Are you mad for brad?
Let’s get glad with brad.
Wouldn’t it be so rad?
*snaps fingers*
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How bad do you want brad?
Are you mad for brad?
Let’s get glad with brad.
Wouldn’t it be so rad?
(https://i.imgur.com/XLPR2FF.gif?noredirect)
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https://twitter.com/RealPitino/status/1500616355590062080
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I would not be surprised if we get a Huggins-to-WV like opportunity to get Brad down the road.
This is what I'm hoping for. Brad's old enough that this might be his last chance to come home.
You guys saying Brad is a drunk?
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Oh sorry Huggs to WV not Huggs to K-State
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Maybe we can get Huggins back?!
Should be pretty cheap.
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I’d definitely take Brad but the dude is almost 60
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I’d definitely take Brad but the dude is almost 60
See, the Huggins set up! Might be the last chance to come home, if that's something he wants.
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I think brads crazy if he leaves Illinois, he has that program rolling.
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I think brads crazy if he leaves Illinois, he has that program rolling.
Yeah there's zero chance of that happening LMAO
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I think brads crazy if he leaves Illinois, he has that program rolling.
Yeah there's zero chance of that happening LMAO
Yes, the Brad-come-home thing kinda feels like Oklahoma State wanting Bill Self to come home.
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I think brads crazy if he leaves Illinois, he has that program rolling.
Yeah there's zero chance of that happening LMAO
Yes, the Brad-come-home thing kinda feels like Oklahoma State wanting Bill Self to come home.
Definetely
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i hope Bread is doing ok. go Illini
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Should see a oscar no longer works here announcement Friday I think. I imagine a new HC wont get named until a month from now, hopefully BSAC comes in to drop some nuggets. The Seth Litrell thread was really fun, hope we get something like that again.
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Should see a oscar no longer works here announcement Friday I think. I imagine a new HC wont get named until a month from now, hopefully BSAC comes in to drop some nuggets. The Seth Litrell thread was really fun, hope we get something like that again.
I doubt that timing for a couple of reasons.
1. The buyout date
2. The conference usually asks schools to embargo news like that during the tournament or large conference events. The last coach firing I can think of that was made during the conference tournament was Wooly and that was even thought of at the time as unusual.
If something is announced before the buyout date either oscar found another job, or we negotiated a buyout higher than it would be if we just wait two weeks to make an announcement.
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I think the thing about Brad is that he checks ALL of the boxes.
Cat... check.
Cool... check.
Actually good... check.
Huggs/Frank tree... check.
That, coupled w/ not nabbing him during oscar's first cratering, or early in oscar's second cratering makes his advancing age all the more infuriating.
He still checks all the boxes, despite his more advanced age. I'd kill for a decade-long run w/ Brad, who would almost assuredly turn over the reigns to a trusted assistant who bled EMAW. Now, despite my hopes and dreams, it's less and less feasible that he ever coaches here. It's very sad and infuriating.
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Should see a oscar no longer works here announcement Friday I think. I imagine a new HC wont get named until a month from now, hopefully BSAC comes in to drop some nuggets. The Seth Litrell thread was really fun, hope we get something like that again.
I doubt that timing for a couple of reasons.
1. The buyout date
2. The conference usually asks schools to embargo news like that during the tournament or large conference events. The last coach firing I can think of that was made during the conference tournament was Wooly and that was even thought of at the time as unusual.
If something is announced before the buyout date either oscar found another job, or we negotiated a buyout higher than it would be if we just wait two weeks to make an announcement.
Not that its going to happen, but our boy certainly knows what its like to get fired during a conference tournament.
https://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/9/2857008/oscar-weber-fired-illinois-basketball-shaka-smart-replacement
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I don't want anyone I like to come to KSU unless they're given absolute autonomy and independence from kstatesports as to running and marketing the program.
Imagine disliking marketing that gave us these beauties
https://twitter.com/ManhattanHell/status/1501738816465518597
https://twitter.com/petriKSU/status/1501743417986007042
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Talks for him to concede to retirement should start tonight. Get that cotton-haired loser the eff away from the program ASAP. Focus on the probably hopeless task of keeping Pack with a big NIL deal.
I'm afraid Gene is going to bring is some wishy-washy no name will finish off the cooling corpse oscar left behind.
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Talks for him to concede to retirement should start tonight. Get that cotton-haired loser the eff away from the program ASAP. Focus on the probably hopeless task of keeping Pack with a big NIL deal.
I'm afraid Gene is going to bring is some wishy-washy no name will finish off the cooling corpse oscar left behind.
It was you with the sign, wasn't it?
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https://twitter.com/BarstoolKState/status/1501741234171359233
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His hair has actually been fabulous this year imo
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If I remember right, Wooly got fired while taking a piss after a first-round Big 12 tourney loss. That's how it's done.
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Talks for him to concede to retirement should start tonight. Get that cotton-haired loser the eff away from the program ASAP. Focus on the probably hopeless task of keeping Pack with a big NIL deal.
I'm afraid Gene is going to bring is some wishy-washy no name will finish off the cooling corpse oscar left behind.
It was you with the sign, wasn't it?
I'm think I wish it were, but don't know what sign you're referencing.
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Should see a oscar no longer works here announcement Friday I think. I imagine a new HC wont get named until a month from now, hopefully BSAC comes in to drop some nuggets. The Seth Litrell thread was really fun, hope we get something like that again.
I doubt that timing for a couple of reasons.
1. The buyout date
2. The conference usually asks schools to embargo news like that during the tournament or large conference events. The last coach firing I can think of that was made during the conference tournament was Wooly and that was even thought of at the time as unusual.
If something is announced before the buyout date either oscar found another job, or we negotiated a buyout higher than it would be if we just wait two weeks to make an announcement.
Not that its going to happen, but our boy certainly knows what its like to get fired during a conference tournament.
https://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/9/2857008/oscar-weber-fired-illinois-basketball-shaka-smart-replacement
That press conference with his family was brutal.
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I don't want anyone I like to come to KSU unless they're given absolute autonomy and independence from kstatesports as to running and marketing the program.
Imagine disliking marketing that gave us these beauties
https://twitter.com/ManhattanHell/status/1501738816465518597
https://twitter.com/petriKSU/status/1501743417986007042
https://twitter.com/_TheDoyle/status/1501746176852250625
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Doing anything to hint at firing oscar before $500k shaved off his buyout would be the pinnacle of incompetence imo. Once that rolls around though, I’ll definitely be looking to make my first ever bball donation.
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When does his buyout go down?
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When does his buyout go down?
April 1st
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When does his buyout go down?
April 1st
Oh yea that’s definitely going to happen then. No brainer.
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https://twitter.com/GarthGardiner/status/1501740340474224642
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put your money where your mouth is garth.
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Yep
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I’ve got some bad news about how much money Garth actually has folks….
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MORE THAN ME! But, like, less than probably people think….
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If I remember right, Wooly got fired while taking a piss after a first-round Big 12 tourney loss. That's how it's done.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.upi.com/amp/Archives/2000/03/10/Asbury-resigns-at-Kansas-State/6811952664400/
Asbury too.
Tom
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https://twitter.com/garyparrishcbs/status/1501764914985283587?s=21
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Is anyone considering Big 12 might be poor after OU and Texas leave? We can’t afford $4.5m or more a year.
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https://twitter.com/garyparrishcbs/status/1501764914985283587?s=21
Welp, now I feel like a bastard for all my oscar hate
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I’ve got some bad news about how much money Garth actually has folks….
SD, as a fellow farming cat you should know that its not how much money you have but how much land you have.
What if Garth took advantage of the super low mortgage rates this summer, took out some huge loans on the family ranch when interest rates were rock bottom and put that in his "Brad Underwood or bust account"?
(I dont actually know how much land Garth's family owns but I'm trying to think positive about how we could possibly land Underwood)
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https://twitter.com/garyparrishcbs/status/1501764914985283587?s=21
Apparently the funeral he had for Bill Self at Illinois wasn't enough, he now informed us that the hair that KU fans, very ironically, thinks is funny, is a protest against Self not getting sanctioned by the NCAA. And he absolutely was talking about Bill Self and maybe Dana Altman and Will Wade, those are the only three coaches who haven't been fired or had their programs sanctioned yet.
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https://twitter.com/garyparrishcbs/status/1501764914985283587?s=21
Welp, now I feel like a bastard for all my oscar hate
The speech kinda sucked but the talking points were all good.
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The brand is built in the NCAA tournament.
With that said, Brad Underwood hasn't been the head coach of a team playing a game on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament. 0 for 5 (2 appearances vacated)
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The brand is built in the NCAA tournament.
With that said, Brad Underwood hasn't been the head coach of a team playing a game on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament. 0 for 5 (2 appearances vacated)
You can vacate a banner but you can't vacate memories.
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Leave it to 'dax to think Brad sucks, because he took a few garbage non P5 teams to the round of 32 and won a Big 10 title, but that 2nd weekend, man. He just doesn't have it in him. :ROFL: Dax's expectations in all things life is hilarious.
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Plane tracking starts in April then?
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I'd much rather have a retread than an up-and-coming SLTH.
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Plane tracking starts in April then?
Sounds like things are moving faster than anticipated. Going to need to get a bookmark on flightaware going stat.
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Leave it to 'dax to think Brad sucks, because he took a few garbage non P5 teams to the round of 32 and won a Big 10 title, but that 2nd weekend, man. He just doesn't have it in him. :ROFL: Dax's expectations in all things life is hilarious.
Only you believe that I'm saying that Brad sucks.
This is why I don't engage you anymore outside of the Pit, because you meltdown at every possible self perceived slight of everything you're a fanboy of . . .
Fire up multiple WackyTowny meltdown posts in 3-2-1 . . .
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Well what were you saying then?
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Well what were you saying then?
That Brad Underwood hasn't coached on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
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Pretty sure he was on the sideline coaching in 2009-2010 for the KSU cats in the elite 8
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Pretty sure he was on the sideline coaching in 2009-2010 for the KSU cats in the elite 8
With that said, Brad Underwood hasn't been the head coach of a team playing a game on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament. 0 for 5 (2 appearances vacated)
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Leave it to 'dax to think Brad sucks, because he took a few garbage non P5 teams to the round of 32 and won a Big 10 title, but that 2nd weekend, man. He just doesn't have it in him. :ROFL: Dax's expectations in all things life is hilarious.
Only you believe that I'm saying that Brad sucks.
This is why I don't engage you anymore outside of the Pit, because you meltdown at every possible self perceived slight of everything you're a fanboy of . . .
Fire up multiple WackyTowny meltdown posts in 3-2-1 . . .
lol
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Call List
(in alphabetical order)
Dana Ford, Missouri State head coach. The 37-year-old already has two successful rebuild jobs in the books. While Kansas State isn’t in dire need of a gut rehab, per se, it’s clear Ford can push the right buttons to bring a new energy into the building effectively. He also took Missouri State from 199th in adjusted offensive efficiency to 25th in four seasons. If the administration believes good offense is the way to counter the suffocating defenses in the Big 12, it could be a selling point.
Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa head coach. He’s a five-time Missouri Valley coach of the year, taking home the honors in two of the last three seasons, who’s won 61 percent of his games in his 16 seasons there. The Panthers won the league in both of those seasons, with the 2019-20 offense circling the top 25 in the efficiency rankings and this year’s attack rating just outside the top 50 nationally. He’s also just 51. Either Jacobson is content where he is forever, or he’s going to have to look hard at a power-conference gig like this at some point.
Tim Jankovich, SMU head coach. He was a four-year starter for the Wildcats and — albeit decades ago — spent a couple seasons on the sideline as an assistant. Ultimately, here’s guessing the 62-year-old Jankovich doesn’t want to wait around to see what the AAC looks like after realignment sends some of its programs to the Big 12. He’d have the momentum from his best season yet at SMU behind him. The question is whether other options look more appealing for the long term.
Grant McCasland, North Texas head coach. A 45-year-old Scott Drew protégé who has won 20 or more games in five out of six seasons as a head coach, coming off two straight NCAA Tournament berths for the Mean Green. That sounds like a pretty solid option for shaking up the vibe in Manhattan. North Texas fielded a top 20-level defense this winter, and playing at an elite level on that end is almost a prerequisite for Big 12 teams at this point.
Jerome Tang, Baylor associate head coach. At some point, the right job will come along for Tang, Scott Drew’s top lieutenant for the entirety of the rebuild in Waco. The ability to work the same recruiting footprint would be a plus. And it’s unlikely competing against his former boss would be a non-starter. The real question is whether Tang and the people advising him believe this is a good enough landing spot to give up a good thing at Baylor.
Mark Turgeon, former head coach, Maryland. It wouldn’t be easy for a former Kansas player and assistant to switch over to the other side, but power conference opportunities don’t come around that often, and Turgeon would be an excellent fit. His ties to the state also include a successful seven-year stint as head coach at Wichita State, and his Big 12 bona fides include his tenure at Texas A&M from 2007-11, before that school joined the SEC. The larger question for Turgeon may be whether he wants to jump back into the rat race following his difficult exit from Maryland. At the very least, Kansas State should give him a call.
The smart money is on…
McCasland. He has done an outstanding job in Denton, and his pedigree from Baylor provides additional luster. McCasland has shown at North Texas that he can beat teams with limited talent. He’ll have better players at Kansas State. — Seth Davis
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Well what were you saying then?
That Brad Underwood hasn't coached on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
Well what were you implying then?
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I’d kill 3 drifters to get G Mac. He is going to have multiple P5 offers as they say.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.additudemag.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-in-adults/amp/
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Call List
(in alphabetical order)
Dana Ford, Missouri State head coach. The 37-year-old already has two successful rebuild jobs in the books. While Kansas State isn’t in dire need of a gut rehab, per se, it’s clear Ford can push the right buttons to bring a new energy into the building effectively. He also took Missouri State from 199th in adjusted offensive efficiency to 25th in four seasons. If the administration believes good offense is the way to counter the suffocating defenses in the Big 12, it could be a selling point.
Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa head coach. He’s a five-time Missouri Valley coach of the year, taking home the honors in two of the last three seasons, who’s won 61 percent of his games in his 16 seasons there. The Panthers won the league in both of those seasons, with the 2019-20 offense circling the top 25 in the efficiency rankings and this year’s attack rating just outside the top 50 nationally. He’s also just 51. Either Jacobson is content where he is forever, or he’s going to have to look hard at a power-conference gig like this at some point.
Tim Jankovich, SMU head coach. He was a four-year starter for the Wildcats and — albeit decades ago — spent a couple seasons on the sideline as an assistant. Ultimately, here’s guessing the 62-year-old Jankovich doesn’t want to wait around to see what the AAC looks like after realignment sends some of its programs to the Big 12. He’d have the momentum from his best season yet at SMU behind him. The question is whether other options look more appealing for the long term.
Grant McCasland, North Texas head coach. A 45-year-old Scott Drew protégé who has won 20 or more games in five out of six seasons as a head coach, coming off two straight NCAA Tournament berths for the Mean Green. That sounds like a pretty solid option for shaking up the vibe in Manhattan. North Texas fielded a top 20-level defense this winter, and playing at an elite level on that end is almost a prerequisite for Big 12 teams at this point.
Jerome Tang, Baylor associate head coach. At some point, the right job will come along for Tang, Scott Drew’s top lieutenant for the entirety of the rebuild in Waco. The ability to work the same recruiting footprint would be a plus. And it’s unlikely competing against his former boss would be a non-starter. The real question is whether Tang and the people advising him believe this is a good enough landing spot to give up a good thing at Baylor.
Mark Turgeon, former head coach, Maryland. It wouldn’t be easy for a former Kansas player and assistant to switch over to the other side, but power conference opportunities don’t come around that often, and Turgeon would be an excellent fit. His ties to the state also include a successful seven-year stint as head coach at Wichita State, and his Big 12 bona fides include his tenure at Texas A&M from 2007-11, before that school joined the SEC. The larger question for Turgeon may be whether he wants to jump back into the rat race following his difficult exit from Maryland. At the very least, Kansas State should give him a call.
The smart money is on…
McCasland. He has done an outstanding job in Denton, and his pedigree from Baylor provides additional luster. McCasland has shown at North Texas that he can beat teams with limited talent. He’ll have better players at Kansas State. — Seth Davis
Other than Ford, McCasland, and Tang, this list can eff itself. Good thing that it's been established that Seth Davis doesn't know jack crap.
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Well what were you saying then?
That Brad Underwood hasn't coached on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
Well what were you implying then?
Did you skip the part where I discuss how a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney?
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.additudemag.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-in-adults/amp/
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:ROFL:
This is hilarious, great posting Cire.
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I did not. Your point isn’t very clear to me.
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The problem with certain people on this blog have is that if you mention a component of reality, and Brad Underwood's relative overall lack of success in the NCAA tourney to date is a factual reality. They immediately jump in and assume that I am saying Brad Underwood sucks. It's hard to pin down, but possibly a hybrid of OCD and Catastrophising on the part of these people.
I would be thrilled if Brad Underwood came to K-State, he's probably not going to, but that doesn't change the reality that Brad Underwood has not coached a single minute in the head coaching role during the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
I believe a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney. Schools can pile up conference titles all day long and twice on Sunday and the general college basketball fan DNGAF. Nor do many recruits.
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I don’t see how that takes away from his coaching ability. He’s only had 2 shots at it with p5 programs. He’s at least won some games.
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I don’t see how that takes away from his coaching ability. He’s only had 2 shots at it with p5 programs. He’s at least won some games.
We'll see, I like Brad, and cheer for him.
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https://twitter.com/garyparrishcbs/status/1501764914985283587?s=21
Apparently the funeral he had for Bill Self at Illinois wasn't enough, he now informed us that the hair that KU fans, very ironically, thinks is funny, is a protest against Self not getting sanctioned by the NCAA. And he absolutely was talking about Bill Self and maybe Dana Altman and Will Wade, those are the only three coaches who haven't been fired or had their programs sanctioned yet.
Glad I finally listened to that whole thing.
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The problem with certain people on this blog have is that if you mention a component of reality, and Brad Underwood's relative overall lack of success in the NCAA tourney to date is a factual reality. They immediately jump in and assume that I am saying Brad Underwood sucks. It's hard to pin down, but possibly a hybrid of OCD and Catastrophising on the part of these people.
I would be thrilled if Brad Underwood came to K-State, he's probably not going to, but that doesn't change the reality that Brad Underwood has not coached a single minute in the head coaching role during the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
I believe a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney. Schools can pile up conference titles all day long and twice on Sunday and the general college basketball fan DNGAF. Nor do many recruits.
When your whole posting persona is to point out everyone's deficiencies first, it's really hard to take you serious, but go off, King!
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go off, King!
Take it to the pet peeve thread
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:lol:
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https://twitter.com/kellisrobinett/status/1501979047542374401?s=21
oscar is still mad
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Someone should tag gottlieb so he can chime in
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Weber and gottlieb in a ft-shooting contest where the winner pays ben_ji’s bud.
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3 of Brad's appearances were at a mid-major and 1 was his first year after taking over for a fired coach. He overachieved by making the tournament with some of those teams and further overachieved by upsetting higher-seeded teams in the first round.
If he misses the second weekend this year, I can understand the criticism. So far, last year is really the only season that missing the Sweet 16 could be seen as disappointing.
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Weber and gottlieb in a ft-shooting contest where the winner pays ben_ji’s bud.
:lol:
oscar would wax them both
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https://gobison.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/david-richman-02-05-/1689
(https://i.gyazo.com/87ce7b1f2a801ca9c3bdc8c218e915e4.png)
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Weber and gottlieb in a ft-shooting contest where the winner pays ben_ji’s bud.
:lol:
oscar would wax them both
oscar could get the apparently long-desired satisfaction at beating gottlieb at something and gottlieb would have no escape to finally paying, with interest. Win-win.
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Weber and gottlieb in a ft-shooting contest where the winner pays ben_ji’s bud.
:lol:
oscar would wax them both
bet he shoots his FTs granny style
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The problem with certain people on this blog have is that if you mention a component of reality, and Brad Underwood's relative overall lack of success in the NCAA tourney to date is a factual reality. They immediately jump in and assume that I am saying Brad Underwood sucks. It's hard to pin down, but possibly a hybrid of OCD and Catastrophising on the part of these people.
I would be thrilled if Brad Underwood came to K-State, he's probably not going to, but that doesn't change the reality that Brad Underwood has not coached a single minute in the head coaching role during the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
I believe a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney. Schools can pile up conference titles all day long and twice on Sunday and the general college basketball fan DNGAF. Nor do many recruits.
When your whole posting persona is to point out everyone's deficiencies first, it's really hard to take you serious, but go off, King!
You are just focusing on yourself and aren’t following along.
That said.
Keep in mind that, to the surprise of no one.
You took my post as saying Brad Underwood “sucks” (direct quote). Which is 1000% on brand for the WackyTuck. Anything less than puppy dogs, pom-poms and unicorns for all the WackyTuck holds dear. Sends the WackyTuck into a rage.
Now back to discussing oscar Weber taking responsibility then 30 seconds later getting back to blaming everything and everyone else.
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Seeing the sports boards more active than the pit makes me happy. go cats :ksu:
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Seeing the sports boards more active than the pit makes me happy. go cats :ksu:
The last 3 years of Kstate sports has put everyone to sleep.
We needed a good ole fashioned coaching search to get things rolling again.
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The problem with certain people on this blog have is that if you mention a component of reality, and Brad Underwood's relative overall lack of success in the NCAA tourney to date is a factual reality. They immediately jump in and assume that I am saying Brad Underwood sucks. It's hard to pin down, but possibly a hybrid of OCD and Catastrophising on the part of these people.
I would be thrilled if Brad Underwood came to K-State, he's probably not going to, but that doesn't change the reality that Brad Underwood has not coached a single minute in the head coaching role during the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
I believe a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney. Schools can pile up conference titles all day long and twice on Sunday and the general college basketball fan DNGAF. Nor do many recruits.
When your whole posting persona is to point out everyone's deficiencies first, it's really hard to take you serious, but go off, King!
You are just focusing on yourself and aren’t following along.
That said.
Keep in mind that, to the surprise of no one.
You took my post as saying Brad Underwood “sucks” (direct quote). Which is 1000% on brand for the WackyTuck. Anything less than puppy dogs, pom-poms and unicorns for all the WackyTuck holds dear. Sends the WackyTuck into a rage.
Now back to discussing oscar Weber taking responsibility then 30 seconds later getting back to blaming everything and everyone else.
:lol: You're such a douche, bruh. I'll let you have the last word. I know you crave it. You never know how to walk away. Look into some meds with your constant grumpy ass.
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The problem with certain people on this blog have is that if you mention a component of reality, and Brad Underwood's relative overall lack of success in the NCAA tourney to date is a factual reality. They immediately jump in and assume that I am saying Brad Underwood sucks. It's hard to pin down, but possibly a hybrid of OCD and Catastrophising on the part of these people.
I would be thrilled if Brad Underwood came to K-State, he's probably not going to, but that doesn't change the reality that Brad Underwood has not coached a single minute in the head coaching role during the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
I believe a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney. Schools can pile up conference titles all day long and twice on Sunday and the general college basketball fan DNGAF. Nor do many recruits.
When your whole posting persona is to point out everyone's deficiencies first, it's really hard to take you serious, but go off, King!
You are just focusing on yourself and aren’t following along.
That said.
Keep in mind that, to the surprise of no one.
You took my post as saying Brad Underwood “sucks” (direct quote). Which is 1000% on brand for the WackyTuck. Anything less than puppy dogs, pom-poms and unicorns for all the WackyTuck holds dear. Sends the WackyTuck into a rage.
Now back to discussing oscar Weber taking responsibility then 30 seconds later getting back to blaming everything and everyone else.
:lol: You're such a douche, bruh. I'll let you have the last word. I know you crave it. You never know how to walk away. Look into some meds with your constant grumpy ass.
:dubious:
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Just wait for it, bud.
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
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The problem with certain people on this blog have is that if you mention a component of reality, and Brad Underwood's relative overall lack of success in the NCAA tourney to date is a factual reality. They immediately jump in and assume that I am saying Brad Underwood sucks. It's hard to pin down, but possibly a hybrid of OCD and Catastrophising on the part of these people.
I would be thrilled if Brad Underwood came to K-State, he's probably not going to, but that doesn't change the reality that Brad Underwood has not coached a single minute in the head coaching role during the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
I believe a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney. Schools can pile up conference titles all day long and twice on Sunday and the general college basketball fan DNGAF. Nor do many recruits.
When your whole posting persona is to point out everyone's deficiencies first, it's really hard to take you serious, but go off, King!
You are just focusing on yourself and aren’t following along.
That said.
Keep in mind that, to the surprise of no one.
You took my post as saying Brad Underwood “sucks” (direct quote). Which is 1000% on brand for the WackyTuck. Anything less than puppy dogs, pom-poms and unicorns for all the WackyTuck holds dear. Sends the WackyTuck into a rage.
Now back to discussing oscar Weber taking responsibility then 30 seconds later getting back to blaming everything and everyone else.
:lol: You're such a douche, bruh. I'll let you have the last word. I know you crave it. You never know how to walk away. Look into some meds with your constant grumpy ass.
The only douche here, is the douche who took my post and determined in their mumped up little head that I said Brad Underwood "sucks" (direct quote), and yes, as long you keep responding, I will happily keep responding.
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The problem with certain people on this blog have is that if you mention a component of reality, and Brad Underwood's relative overall lack of success in the NCAA tourney to date is a factual reality. They immediately jump in and assume that I am saying Brad Underwood sucks. It's hard to pin down, but possibly a hybrid of OCD and Catastrophising on the part of these people.
I would be thrilled if Brad Underwood came to K-State, he's probably not going to, but that doesn't change the reality that Brad Underwood has not coached a single minute in the head coaching role during the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tourney.
I believe a programs brand is built in the NCAA tourney. Schools can pile up conference titles all day long and twice on Sunday and the general college basketball fan DNGAF. Nor do many recruits.
When your whole posting persona is to point out everyone's deficiencies first, it's really hard to take you serious, but go off, King!
You are just focusing on yourself and aren’t following along.
That said.
Keep in mind that, to the surprise of no one.
You took my post as saying Brad Underwood “sucks” (direct quote). Which is 1000% on brand for the WackyTuck. Anything less than puppy dogs, pom-poms and unicorns for all the WackyTuck holds dear. Sends the WackyTuck into a rage.
Now back to discussing oscar Weber taking responsibility then 30 seconds later getting back to blaming everything and everyone else.
:lol: You're such a douche, bruh. I'll let you have the last word. I know you crave it. You never know how to walk away. Look into some meds with your constant grumpy ass.
:dubious:
:eye:
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If I was Gene Taylor this is what I would do
1. Casually call up Brad and mention the job is his if he wants it. If he doesn't say yes right away you follow him 24/7/365 talking about how great it would be to "Come Home" until he says yes or files a restraining order.
2. Call that North Texas guy McCashland and tell him to pack his bags because he's got a 1 way direct flight from DFW to MHK.
3. If that doesn't work maybe ask someone else who is also a good candidate but not a SLTH.
4. If all else fails hit Southwell with a "U up?" Text on March 30th.
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Grumblings on KSO that the money is there to get Brad here. It will be up to him to decide if KSU is really his dream job.
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Grumblings on KSO that the money is there to get Brad here. It will be up to him to decide if KSU is really his dream job.
Wheat prices at an all time high? CHECK
Oil Prices at an all time high? CHECK
Inflation whittling away Brad's Buyout? CHECK
THE STARS HAVE ALIGNED, COME HOME BRAD.
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Lol
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#bradsketball
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Hire Pitino!
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Grumblings on KSO that the money is there to get Brad here. It will be up to him to decide if KSU is really his dream job.
Wheat prices at an all time high? CHECK
Oil Prices at an all time high? CHECK
Inflation whittling away Brad's Buyout? CHECK
THE STARS HAVE ALIGNED, COME HOME BRAD.
Yes this is correct.
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If we rip brad away from Illinois seeing the smug wiped off their faces would be almost enough in and of itself. I'm glad you got out of their alive D-Lew
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Hire Pitino!
You just convinced me.
1. Brad
2a. Pitino
2b. McCashland
3. Someone I haven't been sold on yet
4. Texting Southwell "U Up?"
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Grumblings on KSO that the money is there to get Brad here. It will be up to him to decide if KSU is really his dream job.
Wheat prices at an all time high? CHECK
Oil Prices at an all time high? CHECK
Inflation whittling away Brad's Buyout? CHECK
THE STARS HAVE ALIGNED, COME HOME BRAD.
Yes this is correct.
Just give me one awesome Brad pump up speech at a football game or something like that before we're all killed in a nuclear holocaust.
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Brad is about to make Illinois pay him 6 million a year lmao, what amazing ride that dude has been on. Was making 400k at SFA six years ago.
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Hire Pitino!
You just convinced me.
1. Brad
2a. Pitino
2b. McCashland
3. Someone I haven't been sold on yet
4. Texting Southwell "U Up?"
Now we just need to fire up a fake resume so Gene will hire one of us to be his coaching search consultant.
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Unrealistic moonshot: Brad Underwood
Sensible and exciting: Jerome Tang
Very risky but possibly fun: Todd Golden
Burn it down: Jank/Turg/Miles
Puzzling (at least to me): Ford
Concerning based on pace of play, but willing to give a chance: McCasland
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
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If I was Gene Taylor this is what I would do
1. Casually call up Brad and mention the job is his if he wants it. If he doesn't say yes right away you follow him 24/7/365 talking about how great it would be to "Come Home" until he says yes or files a restraining order.
2. Call that North Texas guy McCashland and tell him to pack his bags because he's got a 1 way direct flight from DFW to MHK.
3. If that doesn't work maybe ask someone else who is also a good candidate but not a SLTH.
4. If all else fails hit Southwell with a "U up?" Text on March 30th.
(https://c.tenor.com/-UWqY6hVcaQAAAAM/perfect-chappelle.gif)
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Grumblings on KSO that the money is there to get Brad here. It will be up to him to decide if KSU is really his dream job.
Yeah, it's there, it's always been there. It's just convincing the money guys to pony up, then convincing the guy you're throwing it at to take the job.
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If it’s not Underwood it’s gotta be 2a) McCasland or 2b) Tang. Also, think of the potential Tang jokes.
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Brad is about to make Illinois pay him 6 million a year lmao, what amazing ride that dude has been on. Was making 400k at SFA six years ago.
If this happens we know he didn't want to come back and will never.
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are we really going to pay him more than klieman though?
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If that's what it takes we absolutely should. Way easier to build a winner in basketball. In basketball it's 100% about the head coach and advantages by blue bloods can be overcome, neither of those are true in football. Baylor has overtaken KU and Tech has pulled even with them, all due to having the right guy. The portal makes it even easier to build and win quickly.
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are we really going to pay him more than klieman though?
My opinion matters 0% as no one is calling me for money to make this happen, but I have no problem paying Brad more than CK. Ck was completely unproven as a FBS coach, and is making 10x what he did at NDSU.
CK is due 3.5m in '22, and 4.3m '23-26.
Brad's making 4.1m at Illinois raising to 4.5 in '26.
No clue what it would take to get Brad to come here, assuming it'd have to be a decent more than he's making now. Maybe start at 4.5m now up to 4.9 or something. Still don't think it's all that unreasonable.
All this is pointless though bc Brad's not leaving Illinois.
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Brad is about to make Illinois pay him 6 million a year lmao, what amazing ride that dude has been on. Was making 400k at SFA six years ago.
If this happens we know he didn't want to come back and will never.
Will be a tough pill to swallow for some
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Brad is about to make Illinois pay him 6 million a year lmao, what amazing ride that dude has been on. Was making 400k at SFA six years ago.
If this happens we know he didn't want to come back and will never.
Meh, could mean that timing was bad bc he has a program rolling in a more lucrative and more stable conference. Even if we offer more $ it may not be the best career move for that reason alone.
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I think the real question is does jrake think there is a better fit out there for KSU (football), or does he just want to be a negative nancy?
between FBS and FCS, there are roughly 260 head football coaches, 520 offensive and defensive coordinators, dozens of NFL coordinators, assistant head coaches, out-of-work former coaches, etc.
last year at KSO, someone in mid-october - username mobcat - suggested k-state hire seth LittreLL. he cited LittreLL's promising turnaround at UNT and his win-loss record, among other reasons (Big 12 ties, youth, offensive system, etc). others seemed intrigued by LittreLL, and he has been a constant potential candidate by fans in the many months since.
earlier this week, snyder officially announced his retirement. a national search for his replacement officially began (although it was surely already underway). and gene taylor's first choice is apparently ... seth LittreLL!
jon wefald/tim weiser embarked on a national search to find ron prince, and they did the same to get bob huggins (and also "moved heaven and earth" in trying to get him to stay).
gene taylor's first big search? eh, he came up with the same guy that mobcat did.
lol are we really going to do this again? is gene taylor's search firm going to once again land on another north texas coach, the same north texas coach that KSO identified as replacement #1 for the program? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Brad is about to make Illinois pay him 6 million a year lmao, what amazing ride that dude has been on. Was making 400k at SFA six years ago.
If this happens we know he didn't want to come back and will never.
Meh, could mean that timing was bad bc he has a program rolling in a more lucrative and more stable conference. Even if we offer more $ it may not be the best career move for that reason alone.
If he's a good coach his program will always be rolling, we wouldn't want to hire him if it weren't. As far as the conference stuff, this isn't football. The conference doesn't matter a single damn bit, but if it did the Big 12 is the best basketball conference in America and will stay in the top 3 for the foreseeable future. The three most decorated programs the last 5 years are Villanova, Baylor, and Gonzaga. You can win anywhere with the right guy.
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I think the real question is does jrake think there is a better fit out there for KSU (football), or does he just want to be a negative nancy?
between FBS and FCS, there are roughly 260 head football coaches, 520 offensive and defensive coordinators, dozens of NFL coordinators, assistant head coaches, out-of-work former coaches, etc.
last year at KSO, someone in mid-october - username mobcat - suggested k-state hire seth LittreLL. he cited LittreLL's promising turnaround at UNT and his win-loss record, among other reasons (Big 12 ties, youth, offensive system, etc). others seemed intrigued by LittreLL, and he has been a constant potential candidate by fans in the many months since.
earlier this week, snyder officially announced his retirement. a national search for his replacement officially began (although it was surely already underway). and gene taylor's first choice is apparently ... seth LittreLL!
jon wefald/tim weiser embarked on a national search to find ron prince, and they did the same to get bob huggins (and also "moved heaven and earth" in trying to get him to stay).
gene taylor's first big search? eh, he came up with the same guy that mobcat did.
lol are we really going to do this again? is gene taylor's search firm going to once again land on another north texas coach, the same north texas coach that KSO identified as replacement #1 for the program? :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm terrified the GT search firm pegs Henderson of South Dakota State. I've seen his name touted by some fans reluctantly parting with Oscar.
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Brad is about to make Illinois pay him 6 million a year lmao, what amazing ride that dude has been on. Was making 400k at SFA six years ago.
If this happens we know he didn't want to come back and will never.
Meh, could mean that timing was bad bc he has a program rolling in a more lucrative and more stable conference. Even if we offer more $ it may not be the best career move for that reason alone.
If he's a good coach his program will always be rolling, we wouldn't want to hire him if it weren't. As far as the conference stuff, this isn't football. The conference doesn't matter a single damn bit, but if it did the Big 12 is the best basketball conference in America and will stay in the top 3 for the foreseeable future. The three most decorated programs the last 5 years are Villanova, Baylor, and Gonzaga. You can win anywhere with the right guy.
It matters bc Kstate is pretty much mumped financially if the B12 goes under.
Power conferences are not as important as far as bball goes, but kstate will still need money to pay whatever salary he's making.
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
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I might be in the market of buying out a part owner of this board, who’s hated #Kstate from day 1 after Frank left, and graduated from KU law school and still has a chip on his shoulder. I will literally give you guys dumb $ to move on from him and revive this board. Let me know. Go cats!
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I think the real question is does jrake think there is a better fit out there for KSU (football), or does he just want to be a negative nancy?
between FBS and FCS, there are roughly 260 head football coaches, 520 offensive and defensive coordinators, dozens of NFL coordinators, assistant head coaches, out-of-work former coaches, etc.
last year at KSO, someone in mid-october - username mobcat - suggested k-state hire seth LittreLL. he cited LittreLL's promising turnaround at UNT and his win-loss record, among other reasons (Big 12 ties, youth, offensive system, etc). others seemed intrigued by LittreLL, and he has been a constant potential candidate by fans in the many months since.
earlier this week, snyder officially announced his retirement. a national search for his replacement officially began (although it was surely already underway). and gene taylor's first choice is apparently ... seth LittreLL!
jon wefald/tim weiser embarked on a national search to find ron prince, and they did the same to get bob huggins (and also "moved heaven and earth" in trying to get him to stay).
gene taylor's first big search? eh, he came up with the same guy that mobcat did.
lol are we really going to do this again? is gene taylor's search firm going to once again land on another north texas coach, the same north texas coach that KSO identified as replacement #1 for the program? :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm terrified the GT search firm pegs Henderson of South Dakota State. I've seen his name touted by some fans reluctantly parting with Oscar.
He's been really good, I have no idea why this would terrify you more than any other young coach from a one bid league, he's probably the most accomplished one out there. Are you really wigging out over the literal word Dakota?
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Brad is about to make Illinois pay him 6 million a year lmao, what amazing ride that dude has been on. Was making 400k at SFA six years ago.
If this happens we know he didn't want to come back and will never.
Meh, could mean that timing was bad bc he has a program rolling in a more lucrative and more stable conference. Even if we offer more $ it may not be the best career move for that reason alone.
If he's a good coach his program will always be rolling, we wouldn't want to hire him if it weren't. As far as the conference stuff, this isn't football. The conference doesn't matter a single damn bit, but if it did the Big 12 is the best basketball conference in America and will stay in the top 3 for the foreseeable future. The three most decorated programs the last 5 years are Villanova, Baylor, and Gonzaga. You can win anywhere with the right guy.
It matters bc Kstate is pretty much mumped financially if the B12 goes under.
Power conferences are not as important as far as bball goes, but kstate will still need money to pay whatever salary he's making.
The Big 12 isn't "going under" I don't even know how to address that, it's a nonstarter.
The entire conversation is contingent upon whether or not our donors are willing to, or if it's practical to meet his price because everyone has one.
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
Since oscar was hired we've hired at least one coach in every sport but volleyball and track, we've hired an athletic director, and two different university presidents. I think General Myers was the Doug Gottlieb of university presidents and it most definitely didn't work out. The new guy was definitely a traditional hire.
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MIR, can we be friends on this side from the board (non pit)? I think your fandom aligns a lot with me, but you’re smarter than me. Keep going!
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I'm an eternal optimist about the teams I cheer for, I legitimately don't get the point otherwise. Sports have made me sad, never pessimistic or miserable. If I felt I could no longer enjoy the teams I'd root for, I'd just quit and I wouldn't hang around to try to find company in my misery, I'd just remove the source of the misery.
It takes all kinds though, and as much as I talk crap to Pete, Trim, and sys on the sports boards, I don't think their outlook makes them bad people, I just don't get it but I don't have to either.
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
Since oscar was hired we've hired at least one coach in every sport but volleyball and track, we've hired an athletic director, and two different university presidents. I think General Myers was the Doug Gottlieb of university presidents and it most definitely didn't work out. The new guy was definitely a traditional hire.
I guess that was an inapplicable question because it's almost impossible to hire anyone relevant or difference-making (to me) in anything but football and mbb.
The last time anyone non-emaw/kansan talked to me about anything emaw was an uber driver in like 2015, and he thought we still had that basketball coach with the "crazy eyes."
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
Since oscar was hired we've hired at least one coach in every sport but volleyball and track, we've hired an athletic director, and two different university presidents. I think General Myers was the Doug Gottlieb of university presidents and it most definitely didn't work out. The new guy was definitely a traditional hire.
I guess that was an inapplicable question because it's almost impossible to hire anyone relevant or difference-making (to me) in anything but football and mbb.
The last time anyone non-emaw/kansan talked to me about anything emaw was an uber driver in like 2015, and he thought we still had that basketball coach with the "crazy eyes."
See the problem here is you're already cast your judgment on the football coach, you followed the exact formula I laid out. Klieman is looking like he's a SLTH and LittreLL would have been a disaster. You're already playing the wait it out game and instead of saying "yeah I was probably wrong about Klieman v. LittreLL" you'll just wait out the clock until he, like 95% of all coaches, gets fired then act like we didn't see what we saw.
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
Since oscar was hired we've hired at least one coach in every sport but volleyball and track, we've hired an athletic director, and two different university presidents. I think General Myers was the Doug Gottlieb of university presidents and it most definitely didn't work out. The new guy was definitely a traditional hire.
I guess that was an inapplicable question because it's almost impossible to hire anyone relevant or difference-making (to me) in anything but football and mbb.
The last time anyone non-emaw/kansan talked to me about anything emaw was an uber driver in like 2015, and he thought we still had that basketball coach with the "crazy eyes."
See the problem here is you're already cast your judgment on the football coach, you followed the exact formula I laid out. Klieman is looking like he's a SLTH and LittreLL would have been a disaster. You're already playing the wait it out game and instead of saying "yeah I was probably wrong about Klieman v. LittreLL" you'll just wait out the clock until he, like 95% of all coaches, gets fired then act like we didn't see what we saw.
Lol at LittreLL. That was just funny and posted loudly about because of Pete and the squat racks. I wanted Saban or Dabo. ;)
Anyway, Nets-Sixers time.
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Lol :facepalm:
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If we get Brad I’m going to get season tickets. I may only go to 4 games a year but eff it.
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Hire Pitino!
You just convinced me.
1. Brad
2a. Pitino
2b. McCashland
3. Someone I haven't been sold on yet
4. Texting Southwell "U Up?"
Update
1. Underwood
2a. Pitino
2b. McCashland
3. Kim English with southwell as his #1 assistant
4. Texting southwell "U Up?" On March 30th
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
Since oscar was hired we've hired at least one coach in every sport but volleyball and track, we've hired an athletic director, and two different university presidents. I think General Myers was the Doug Gottlieb of university presidents and it most definitely didn't work out. The new guy was definitely a traditional hire.
I guess that was an inapplicable question because it's almost impossible to hire anyone relevant or difference-making (to me) in anything but football and mbb.
The last time anyone non-emaw/kansan talked to me about anything emaw was an uber driver in like 2015, and he thought we still had that basketball coach with the "crazy eyes."
See the problem here is you're already cast your judgment on the football coach, you followed the exact formula I laid out. Klieman is looking like he's a SLTH and LittreLL would have been a disaster. You're already playing the wait it out game and instead of saying "yeah I was probably wrong about Klieman v. LittreLL" you'll just wait out the clock until he, like 95% of all coaches, gets fired then act like we didn't see what we saw.
Lol at LittreLL. That was just funny and posted loudly about because of Pete and the squat racks. I wanted Saban or Dabo. ;)
Anyway, Nets-Sixers time.
Simmons isn't even playing tho
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Who is the present day version of Guy Lewis? Let’s get whoever that guy is
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If we get Brad I’m going to get season tickets. I may only go to 4 games a year but eff it.
Yeah, it's a done deal for me too if that is the case.
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If we get Brad I will purchase season tix and then donate them as an auction item at FF book it
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if we set the benchmark as better than frank martin's time here, i think brad gets it 80% of the time. tang/unt more like 25%. we'd have to pay them 5 and 3 million respectively. does all the extra tickets make up that 2 mill? plus the lower chance at having to fire and pay a buyout. i dunno. it makes sense to me. let's get brad!
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I think it would be cool to win at basketball and I think Brad is the simplest way to do that.
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Are people who are saying they think we're have a shot at Brad in on some kind of joke I don't get?
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Are people who are saying they think we're have a shot at Brad in on some kind of joke I don't get?
I wouldn't expect NYCcat to understand that hayseed tater/wheat farmers are like 40% richer over the past year and that KS ranks 9th out of states in oil production.
Has Russia invading Ukraine finally given K-State the financial power to become a big time college athletics program?!? Talk about the monkeys paw.
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Are people who are saying they think we're have a shot at Brad in on some kind of joke I don't get?
Yes
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Are people who are saying they think we're have a shot at Brad in on some kind of joke I don't get?
Yes
Me and two emaws had a legit "brad is coming" discussion in the tmobile pissers tonight so I think it's kind of a lock.
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https://twitter.com/money23green/status/1502112741053526018?s=21
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Now that’s an inside joke that I don’t get
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Are people who are saying they think we're have a shot at Brad in on some kind of joke I don't get?
Everybody's got a price
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https://twitter.com/money23green/status/1502112741053526018?s=21
lol, my mans is wildin
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
Since oscar was hired we've hired at least one coach in every sport but volleyball and track, we've hired an athletic director, and two different university presidents. I think General Myers was the Doug Gottlieb of university presidents and it most definitely didn't work out. The new guy was definitely a traditional hire.
I guess that was an inapplicable question because it's almost impossible to hire anyone relevant or difference-making (to me) in anything but football and mbb.
The last time anyone non-emaw/kansan talked to me about anything emaw was an uber driver in like 2015, and he thought we still had that basketball coach with the "crazy eyes."
See the problem here is you're already cast your judgment on the football coach, you followed the exact formula I laid out. Klieman is looking like he's a SLTH and LittreLL would have been a disaster. You're already playing the wait it out game and instead of saying "yeah I was probably wrong about Klieman v. LittreLL" you'll just wait out the clock until he, like 95% of all coaches, gets fired then act like we didn't see what we saw.
Lol at LittreLL. That was just funny and posted loudly about because of Pete and the squat racks. I wanted Saban or Dabo. ;)
Anyway, Nets-Sixers time.
Simmons isn't even playing tho
Incredibly, tonight marked the next time a non-EMAW/Kansan talked to me about EMAW when the big 12 games were on another tv and I was asked if I’d heard that oscar Weber resigned.
Simmons being so happy chilling in his bright yellow was great. I hope Kyrie gets debilitating covid.
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That’s a pretty rough ridin' elite shoutout.
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Valentine is legit. Goddamn he’s young, but he’s for real. I bet he’ll be a big time coach before it is all said and done.
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This will tell us if, despite the changes in people, whether the mentality of the ultimate KSU decision-makers has changed at all since 2012.
You're going to believe what you want to believe regardless. (http://The university and athletic department have make several hires since oscar, there has been one single solitary fired retread hired, that's Pete Hughes.)
I can already write the script for your segment of the fan base.
1. Have a really narrow group of acceptable hires, in this case it's Kim English and Brad Underwood.
2. Bitch and whine about K-State athletics and Amy Button Renz when you don't get your way.
3. Voilà!
I've seen the script a thousand times, it's not K-State that needs to determine whether or not it's changed, I hate to tell you bud, but it's you.
Has there been anyone relevant or difference-making?
I personally don't know nearly enough about college basketball anymore to have any opinion on who would be good to hire.
Let's see what's prioritized in the hiring process/efforts.
Since oscar was hired we've hired at least one coach in every sport but volleyball and track, we've hired an athletic director, and two different university presidents. I think General Myers was the Doug Gottlieb of university presidents and it most definitely didn't work out. The new guy was definitely a traditional hire.
I guess that was an inapplicable question because it's almost impossible to hire anyone relevant or difference-making (to me) in anything but football and mbb.
The last time anyone non-emaw/kansan talked to me about anything emaw was an uber driver in like 2015, and he thought we still had that basketball coach with the "crazy eyes."
See the problem here is you're already cast your judgment on the football coach, you followed the exact formula I laid out. Klieman is looking like he's a SLTH and LittreLL would have been a disaster. You're already playing the wait it out game and instead of saying "yeah I was probably wrong about Klieman v. LittreLL" you'll just wait out the clock until he, like 95% of all coaches, gets fired then act like we didn't see what we saw.
Lol at LittreLL. That was just funny and posted loudly about because of Pete and the squat racks. I wanted Saban or Dabo. ;)
Anyway, Nets-Sixers time.
Simmons isn't even playing tho
Incredibly, tonight marked the next time a non-EMAW/Kansan talked to me about EMAW when the big 12 games were on another tv and I was asked if I’d heard that oscar Weber resigned.
Simmons being so happy chilling in his bright yellow was great. I hope Kyrie gets debilitating covid.
Probably too late for kyrie to get that COVID. I'd much rather the nets win the east other than the sixers or heat.
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I hate to interrupt your NBA talk, but getting back to the most likely coach Mean Green would hire I would bet it's an FCS coach. Those are the coaches he knows and I wouldn't be surprised if it's one from Missouri Valley.
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I hate to interrupt your NBA talk, but getting back to the most likely coach Mean Green would hire I would bet it's an FCS coach. Those are the coaches he knows and I wouldn't be surprised if it's one from Missouri Valley.
tired.
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https://twitter.com/strawny/status/1502132424507076610?s=21
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https://twitter.com/strawny/status/1502132424507076610?s=21
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Wait is that really Bob Strawn?
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I was not thinking of Valentine at all, and now I am one K-State fan who is very much hoping that he is in the mix.
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Word on the street is that kstate can make Brad a competitive-to-his-current-structure offer, but wouldn’t be able to compete if Illinois wants to dump crazy money on him (I would guess >5m and escalating), which apparently they can do.
Definitely worth a shot if Brad is serious about K S of U being his dream job.
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Word on the street is that kstate can make Brad a competitive-to-his-current-structure offer, but wouldn’t be able to compete if Illinois wants to dump crazy money on him (I would guess >5m and escalating), which apparently they can do.
Definitely worth a shot if Brad is serious about K S of U being his dream job.
Good for Brad either way, which pleases me.
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Brad coming here has to be about more than money. Illinois is better set up for success and will throw more money out.
I really want to see Brad coach Pack as I think he could become first team All-American for a team that runs an offense.
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The Washington Commanders called the Chiefs about Mahomes, there is no reason not to make the call and ask.
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Well informed article from someone who actually knows college basketball and is sourced and connected, unlike that hairdo in an empty suit, Seth Davis
https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/1502000807096508421
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didn't even mention Danny Manning, smdh
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Tad Boyle was a hot name last time. I don't know that's still the case tho.
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You know who would be fun? Michael Jordan!
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Tad Boyle was a hot name last time. I don't know that's still the case tho.
Do you realize how long he's been at Colorado?
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At least ten years
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12
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Who can we hire that will bring Doc Sadler along for the ride?
Oh he's still at Nubb
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Who can we hire that will bring Doc Sadler along for the ride?
Oh he's still at Nubb
It would be fun to hire the mayor.
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Crean is now available. And he fits in the mold of recent KSU hires!
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I want Mack.
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Looked like Brad's mind was elsewhere today....
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Crean is your new coach. Learn it. Know it. Live it.
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Dax was right. Can’t win the big game
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the universe knows Brad belongs at KSU
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From ESPN
Kansas State: There doesn't seem to be anything close to a clear favorite for this one, although North Texas' Grant McCasland would appear to check a lot of boxes. He led the Mean Green to a regular-season title in 2020, went to the NCAA tournament and upset 4-seed Purdue in 2021, and won another regular-season championship this season. He also spent five seasons at Baylor as an assistant coach.
Other names mentioned by industry sources include Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, Baylor assistant Jerome Tang, South Dakota State's Eric Henderson, New Mexico State's Chris Jans, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Illinois assistant Chester Frazier, Oral Roberts' Paul Mills and UAB's Andy Kennedy. It's unclear if Murray State's Matt McMahon would have interest, but he would be on the list too if he does.
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From ESPN
Kansas State: There doesn't seem to be anything close to a clear favorite for this one, although North Texas' Grant McCasland would appear to check a lot of boxes. He led the Mean Green to a regular-season title in 2020, went to the NCAA tournament and upset 4-seed Purdue in 2021, and won another regular-season championship this season. He also spent five seasons at Baylor as an assistant coach.
Other names mentioned by industry sources include Drake's Darian DeVries, Wyoming's Jeff Linder, Baylor assistant Jerome Tang, South Dakota State's Eric Henderson, New Mexico State's Chris Jans, San Francisco's Todd Golden, Illinois assistant Chester Frazier, Oral Roberts' Paul Mills and UAB's Andy Kennedy. It's unclear if Murray State's Matt McMahon would have interest, but he would be on the list too if he does.
Of course ESPN wouldn’t mention stone-cold lock Bradley Underwood. The media bias and agenda is APPARENT!!!
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the loser north texas coach (not LittreLL, the hoops one) just had a team put up 36 points in a six-point loss in the CUSA tourney. :lol:
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Jerome "Pun" Tang keeps sticking out to me if it's not "It's Brad!"
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Jerome "Pun" Tang keeps sticking out to me if it's not "It's Brad!"
Pootie
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Do they still make Tang? I would love to drink a crap ton of that if he's our coach if so.
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Do they still make Tang? I would love to drink a crap ton of that if he's our coach if so.
Yeah, it's ass
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Do they still make Tang? I would love to drink a crap ton of that if he's our coach if so.
Yeah, it's ass
Wa Da Tah
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Do they still make Tang? I would love to drink a crap ton of that if he's our coach if so.
Yeah, it's ass
Not sure what you expect government juice to taste like.
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Do they still make Tang? I would love to drink a crap ton of that if he's our coach if so.
Yeah, it's ass
Not sure what you expect government juice to taste like.
Was an answer in a crossword I did the other day tho.
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Jerome "Pun" Tang keeps sticking out to me if it's not "It's Brad!"
Pootie
so good
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I'm sold on PoonTang. Let's go get him. :driving:
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Pootie vs poon is a nice and easy way to out the browns imo
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Srsly, wuts not to like :dunno:
Drew's right hand man, known across the south so he can recruit, has coached Baylor in the absence of Drew. From what I have read the man is legit. Would he come to lowly KSU :dunno:
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Reading the current Mercury article on the athletic budget hit we would take to get Brad, and there is no way that’s happening. It basically says that brads buyout is $7.9, Bruces buyout is $1, and the min increase from What oscar’s sal would’ve been next season to Brad’s would get us to a $10.1 million increase in what the expected budget would have been before all this started. That’s effectively getting Brad here for one year.
We could hire north Texas and tang and have them do some sort of reality tv coach off, while being paid going rate, for the next couple years and come out ahead financially.
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Reading the current Mercury article on the athletic budget hit we would take to get Brad, and there is no way that’s happening. It basically says that brads buyout is $7.9, Bruces buyout is $1, and the min increase from What oscar’s sal would’ve been next season to Brad’s would get us to a $10.1 million increase in what the expected budget would have been before all this started. That’s effectively getting Brad here for one year.
We could hire north Texas and tang and have them do some sort of reality tv coach off, while being paid going rate, for the next couple years and come out ahead financially.
If our BMD’s want to blow 10 million to watch Brad coach the cats so be it. It isn’t going to come out of the AD’s pocket.
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It would be a hell of a feat but I’d support almost any budget hit to get Brad. Football is a dying sport. This could be a worthwhile time to invest in our athletic future.
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I'm just an unfrozen caveman lawyer, but why wouldn't you spend whatever it takes to get whomever you want?
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I posted this in another thread as well, but I’d like Mark Turgeon.
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I posted this in another thread as well, but I’d like Mark Turgeon.
big downside is that people would refer to him as Turd John on here
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It would be a hell of a feat but I’d support almost any budget hit to get Brad. Football is a dying sport. This could be a worthwhile time to invest in our athletic future.
lol. Wut?
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I posted this in another thread as well, but I’d like Mark Turgeon.
WTF? He'd be Oscar 2. A failed coach at a high-profile progrram who whose hiring would alienate half the fanbase.
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It would be a hell of a feat but I’d support almost any budget hit to get Brad. Football is a dying sport. This could be a worthwhile time to invest in our athletic future.
lol. Wut?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decline-of-football-is-real-and-its-accelerating/?sh=7db07ef52f37
Adapt or die MFer
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It would be a hell of a feat but I’d support almost any budget hit to get Brad. Football is a dying sport. This could be a worthwhile time to invest in our athletic future.
lol. Wut?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decline-of-football-is-real-and-its-accelerating/?sh=7db07ef52f37
Adapt or die MFer
You’re getting too close to Spracs, bud.
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sean sutton would win, at least untill this guy shows up again
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It would be a hell of a feat but I’d support almost any budget hit to get Brad. Football is a dying sport. This could be a worthwhile time to invest in our athletic future.
lol. Wut?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decline-of-football-is-real-and-its-accelerating/?sh=7db07ef52f37
Adapt or die MFer
You’re getting too close to Spracs, bud.
You literally quoted a 2020 article. I didn’t click on it, but guess what happened that year?!
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It would be a hell of a feat but I’d support almost any budget hit to get Brad. Football is a dying sport. This could be a worthwhile time to invest in our athletic future.
lol. Wut?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decline-of-football-is-real-and-its-accelerating/?sh=7db07ef52f37
Adapt or die MFer
You’re getting too close to Spracs, bud.
You literally quoted a 2020 article. I didn’t click on it, but guess what happened that year?!
Well I’m happy to give you some quick deets. The title is “The Decline Of Football Is Real And It’s Accelerating” and it was posted January 2020.
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But K-State’s shitty bowl game vs LSU had more viewers during that crap bowl, with everyone out during the contest. Than #KUbball had vs Texas, on Senior day, at home, to win the conference. Good stuff, bud!
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Football is still king no doubt. My point is that it makes fiscal sense to pump money into the only other revenue generating sport, which very well could jump football in 10 or 20 years.
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Basketball will never jump football in a million years. Never ever. I truly understand the sentiment, but it’s not happening in our lifetime.
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I’m also fine with over paying Brad. It would be a home run hire for Gene, but where this $ is coming from here to do so, is beyond me.
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I’m also fine with over paying Brad. It would be a home run hire for Gene, but where this $ is coming from here to do so, is beyond me.
basically the Ice and Johnson families have to decide that they want to pay a large chunk of the salary. If we have the money to ask, Gene already knows, he's had the conversations with them.
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I’m also fine with over paying Brad. It would be a home run hire for Gene, but where this $ is coming from here to do so, is beyond me.
basically the Ice and Johnson families have to decide that they want to pay a large chunk of the salary. If we have the money to ask, Gene already knows, he's had the conversations with them.
Definitely on board if capable.
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How loaded is this Ice guy? Google search shows his net worth is only like $3 million.
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How loaded is this Ice guy? Google search shows his net worth is only like $3 million.
lmao
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football is a dumb redneck sport and will be overtaken by basketball.
lol at a sport with 10 minutes of action in 3.5 hours. plus the assload of injuries in those 10 minutes.
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How loaded is this Ice guy? Google search shows his net worth is only like $3 million.
lmao
I want to know all about his empire.
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How loaded is this Ice guy? Google search shows his net worth is only like $3 million.
lmao
I want to know all about his empire.
no , i have no idea... i heard it was a surveillance and catering empire
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He invented ice. He's a gazzillionaire.
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ice is his nickname, you clowns. as in diamonds. the dude pisses only the highest quality stones.
carl rough ridin' ice
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Sometimes when I think about donors pissing away millions of dollars for a coaching hire, I get sad. Like on the overall grand scheme of things. It's just silly.- Emo Wacky
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Sometimes when I think about donors pissing away millions of dollars for a coaching hire, I get sad. Like on the overall grand scheme of things. It's just silly.- Emo Wacky
Cool story oscar
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I do not share those emotions
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Sometimes when I think about donors pissing away millions of dollars for a coaching hire, I get sad. Like on the overall grand scheme of things. It's just silly.- Emo Wacky
I am with you. What a silly waste of money but I'm happy they do it!
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Agreed
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staff:
hc: blake young
assistant coach: shane
assistant coach: freddy asprilla
grad assistant: ryan patzwald
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Looks like Missouri are using the same search firm as we are
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Patz would be a great 40 year-old grad assistant.
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Jason Sutherland, don't know if he even coaches, but at least we would get max effort against the Jayhawks.
Was always jealous of Norm's teams when they played KU.
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we should start a search firm. Seems pud and take millions from these ADs
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staff:
hc: blake young
assistant coach: shane
assistant coach: freddy asprilla
grad assistant: ryan patzwald
You get 3 bench coaches, we could probably get Darren Kent too
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we should start a search firm. Seems pud and take millions from these ADs
I would like to be part of this. No brainer. Isn't there a million (billion?) dollar idea thread?
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Looks like Missouri are using the same search firm as we are
what if they do a coach trade like the smith-gordon swap last year
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Looks like Missouri are using the same search firm as we are
what if they do a coach trade like the smith-gordon swap last year
We'd win that one too. Missouri is an absolute crap job, they haven't supported basketball since Norm left. I hope they don't offer Kim that job because I really like him and I think that would kill his career before he even turns 40.
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my dark horse
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He wants it bad, don’t think he’s far enough up Gene’s list to make it a reality though.
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He wants it bad, don’t think he’s far enough up Gene’s list to make it a reality though.
where has miles simon indicated that he wants the job?
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my dark horse
I couldn't stand this dude when he played at Arizona, no idea what he's up to these days.
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coaching the lakers d-league team
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I had no idea. Then again, 'clams definitely takes in more of the d-league than I do (because I don't).
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He wants it bad, don’t think he’s far enough up Gene’s list to make it a reality though.
where has miles simon indicated that he wants the job?
Sorry can’t reveal my sources
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Sometimes when I think about donors pissing away millions of dollars for a coaching hire, I get sad. Like on the overall grand scheme of things. It's just silly.- Emo Wacky
I am with you. What a silly waste of money but I'm happy they do it!
Agree. Especially the rich weirdos that require their name to be attached to the donation. Like, some schools have "The Stupid Fitz Foundation Head Football Coach", that has to be announced that way on everything. Its really dumb and while those people can do whatever the hell they want to with their money, it would be cool if they fed hungry kids or something. But, hey, maybe they do both!!!
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my dark horse
That smile :love: :love: :love:
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Rumblings that Andy Kennedy will be a fall back candidate
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Rumblings that Andy Kennedy will be a fall back candidate
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Looking at his Ole Miss numbers, he has SLTH written all over him. I hope there's a lot of options before we fall back.
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I sure hope we don't hire a coach that gets drunk and then beats up cabbies and calls them "bin laden."
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What’s the baggage with Chris Jans? I know he was on staff with Greggg at WSU so probably related to that.
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What’s the baggage with Chris Jans? I know he was on staff with Greggg at WSU so probably related to that.
Bowling Green fired him after he was caught on video getting drunk and sexually harassing a lady in public.
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What’s the baggage with Chris Jans? I know he was on staff with Greggg at WSU so probably related to that.
Bowling Green fired him after he was caught on video getting drunk and sexually harassing a lady in public.
That should be a hard pass then
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I think Brad and the Baylor dude are 1 and 1a
If we strike out there then it’s Andy Kennedy time
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Apparently we have contacted Tang, Jans, and Golden
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Brad is like guaranteed success. Tang is still a crapshoot, although higher than all the other options.
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We're going to hire Jans and everyone will be happy because he's going to get a sweet 16 as a double digit seed, and I'm going to be forced to cope.
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We're going to hire Jans and everyone will be happy because he's going to get a sweet 16 as a double digit seed, and I'm going to be forced to cope.
I’ll be really disappointed if we do that
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Jans's record as a head coach is really solid. I can't imagine hiring someone with his baggage to replace oscar though as it's sure to be plenty divisive.
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Jans looks like a scumbag. He's probably a great coach.
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on the surface he looks like just another boring midmajor coach but digging deeper you see some potential.
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We're going to hire Jans and everyone will be happy because he's going to get a sweet 16 as a double digit seed, and I'm going to be forced to cope.
I’ll be really disappointed if we do that
The biggest positive in my opinion would be that Gene is sending a clear signal that we’re playing to win. I definitely don’t love the baggage, though. I’m guessing he’d have to be pretty convincing with the “new man” type speech, which of course is a possibility. I’d actually feel much better about Jabs than someone like Pitino from an ethics perspective.
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Jans is from Iowa…
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on the surface he looks like just another boring midmajor coach but digging deeper you see some potential.
On the court I think he’s a solid candidate. The sexual assault stuff I’d rather not be a part of.
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on the surface he looks like just another boring midmajor coach but digging deeper you see some potential.
On the court I think he’s a solid candidate. The sexual assault stuff I’d rather not be a part of.
Aside from the whole drunk harasser thing, he does have Gregg Marshall stink on him too. I'm not saying Jans punched players, but he was definitely part of working in the margins like Marshall was.
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on the surface he looks like just another boring midmajor coach but digging deeper you see some potential.
On the court I think he’s a solid candidate. The sexual assault stuff I’d rather not be a part of.
https://youtu.be/4w3EHERtTHA
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https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-recruiting/article259393579.html
5-star GG Jackson’s interest in USC was heavily tied to Frank Martin. Now what?
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Team Golden Boy
I'll accept him, but that plodding low tempo game McCasland is going to drive me crazy when everyone talks about how good a defensive team we are when it won't really be true
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https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-recruiting/article259393579.html
5-star GG Jackson’s interest in USC was heavily tied to Frank Martin. Now what?
Any room for Frank on a Brad staff?
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Team Golden Boy
I'll accept him, but that plodding low tempo game McCasland is going to drive me crazy when everyone talks about how good a defensive team we are when it won't really be true
I’d take Valentine over Golden but English/Golden/Valentine are hopefully farther down the coaching search tier than we get
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I don’t want to do any homework. I want our avg score to be in the 70’s. I want to press and run a lot while being angry. Hire that guy, please.
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Team Golden Boy
I'll accept him, but that plodding low tempo game McCasland is going to drive me crazy when everyone talks about how good a defensive team we are when it won't really be true
I’d take Valentine over Golden but English/Golden/Valentine are hopefully farther down the coaching search tier than we get
I don't know if I'd take Valentine over English, given the two. Valentine inherited a much better team in a far less competitive conference.
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https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-recruiting/article259393579.html
5-star GG Jackson’s interest in USC was heavily tied to Frank Martin. Now what?
Any room for Frank on a Brad staff?
Lets get the whole crew back together for another run
HC - Brad
Assistant HC - Frank
Recruiting Coordinator - Delonte420k
Other assistant - Southwell
Right after I thought of this I googled Delonte420k to see what he had been up to and I cant figure out if he still works at southern miss or now works at SF Austin?
Wikipedia says he works for SF Austin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalonte_Hill
Southern Miss Still has his coaching page up
https://southernmiss.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/dalonte-hill/470
But it does look like he currently works for SF Austin
https://sfajacks.com/news/2021/6/18/mens-basketball-keller-adds-dalonte-hill-to-lumberjack-basketball-staff.aspx
On further review he is only able to join the staff if he can bring along one 5 star...maybe a solid 4 star recruit with him.
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the loser north texas coach (not LittreLL, the hoops one) is 3 mins away from being ready to hire! his north texas squad currently trails texas state by 8 pts, at home, as an 8-pt favorite, in the NIT.
they have scored 44 pts so far.
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Yikes
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They came back. Down 2, with 2.5 seconds left in the game and North Texas just got fouled and are shooting 3 free throws.
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OT
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Thanks for alerting me to this barn burner j rake
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yep, the soon-to-be-new k-state coach is one basket away from reaching 60 pts!
:ksu:
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It’s definitely more entertaining right now than anything else on, so I appreciate you!
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Coach McC survives! we must wait for k-state to hire this loser coach. darn!
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North Texas wins! He X’d and O’d Texas State’s asses at the end!
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It’s definitely more entertaining right now than anything else on, so I appreciate you!
Bruh, Jeff Linder is playing in the first four! He's a pretty fiery guy also has a little oscar in him getting on the floor, but he's getting after it. He reminds me of my high school coach.
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It’s definitely more entertaining right now than anything else on, so I appreciate you!
Bruh, Jeff Linder is playing in the first four! He's a pretty fiery guy also has a little oscar in him getting on the floor, but he's getting after it. He reminds me of my high school coach.
I definitely was watching it before j rake showed up. Turning it back now!
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I think I've decided that I'm going to cheer for Illinois to lose and I want them to lose in an embarrassing fashion.
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I think I've decided that I'm going to cheer for Illinois to lose and I want them to lose in an embarrassing fashion.
Every Man a Moc
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I think I've decided that I'm going to cheer for Illinois to lose and I want them to lose in an embarrassing fashion.
I picked against them in my bracket. Brad is going to take a dive.
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There isn't any need for worrying about pace and McCasland. He's not going to be the guy.
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Scoop?
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Is he getting the Missouri job?
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Is he getting the Missouri job?
It sounds like he's not talking to anyone right now, or his camp and whatever school he is talking to have kept it extremely quiet.
Also sounds like Mack back to Xavier is in play if not likely.
There are still discussions going on between K-State and Brad, but I'm not sure where that's at. He hasn't said no as far as I know as of yet.
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I figured Xavier pulled the cord today on their coach for Mack. Kinda odd to pull the string on a 3rd year Coach so quickly, who’s a 2 seed in the NIT and just advanced. Of course Riley Gates couldn’t put this together.
https://twitter.com/riley_gates/status/1504153040982528006?s=21
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A good friend of mine was college buds with McCasland and stays in contact. He doesn’t have any recent info but did say McCasland has strong personal ties to the state of Texas and it could be tough to pull him out of there. If so, he may be waiting awhile for a shot to move up.
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A good friend of mine was college buds with McCasland and stays in contact. He doesn’t have any recent info but did say McCasland has strong personal ties to the state of Texas and it could be tough to pull him out of there. If so, he may be waiting awhile for a shot to move up.
This makes me want him more. That sounds like such a sexy combo of discipline and confidence.
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First four officially counts. Looking forward to the counters.
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more like mcASSland
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BRAD'S OUT WE'RE mumped
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BRAD'S OUT WE'RE mumped
What?!
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start learning up on Tang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2JydpQSHhU
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KC Star had an article quoting Scott Drew. He was saying tang would be a great fit at KSU or MU and that he thinks if someone was to offer that the deal would be closed this week. Sounds like Scott is pressing for his guy to get more attention than he is, and also sounds like his guy really wants to be a Cat or Tiger. If Brad really is out, we could probably easily land Tang based on that.
Why else would Scott offer up such a blatant interview.
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Where is this Brad stuff coming from? Why would there be any resolution to this just a few hours before his first tournament game? Is this just from someone on KSO who has a source? The timing doesn't make the least bit of sense.
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wanted tang all along
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Where is this Brad stuff coming from? Why would there be any resolution to this just a few hours before his first tournament game? Is this just from someone on KSO who has a source? The timing doesn't make the least bit of sense.
kso post about potential pivot
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Brad was asked in his presser today and didn't really answer other than the typical "I love this team" platitudes so gotta be something other than that.
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it's definitely far from dead.
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I'm getting a bad feeling about this.
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I’m guessing Brad is going to see if Ill will go to $6m.
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I’m guessing Brad is going to see if Ill will go to $6m.
yep
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I think I've decided that I'm going to cheer for Illinois to lose and I want them to lose in an embarrassing fashion.
So far so good :excited:
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I think I've decided that I'm going to cheer for Illinois to lose and I want them to lose in an embarrassing fashion.
So far so good :excited:
Acting like a real palooka
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Do we even want him anymore? Let’s get Tang
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Do we even want him anymore? Let’s get Tang
Pootie is a good fallback
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I picked Chattanooga in this, partially to help you guys out, and partially because Silvio De Sousa plays for Chattanooga (stool fight guy formerly of KU)
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Man maybe Daris was right about this bum
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I picked Chattanooga in this, partially to help you guys out, and partially because Silvio De Sousa plays for Chattanooga (stool fight guy formerly of KU)
I'll never forgive him for making wildcat march
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Would be hypocritical to discount a coach for losing a 4 vs 13 game, and then want a different coach that also loses a 4 vs 13 game.
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every man a whatever chattanooga is.
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every man a whatever chattanooga is.
they are the Mocs, maybe the most sys of all mascots
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let's go snakes!
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some of it is ILL's defense, but CHAT doesn't even seem that good...
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well that sucked.
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Brads guard, #5. My goodness.
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Well, every single name tied to this position other than Darian DeVries and KT Turner have either been eliminated or have been hired elsewhere. We should have our coach, officially, within the next 48 hours.
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i’m happy to announce that i’ve officially endorsed and fully support tang for ksu head men’s basketball coach
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Well, every single name tied to this position other than Darian DeVries and KT Turner have either been eliminated or have been hired elsewhere. We should have our coach, officially, within the next 48 hours.
I expect Tang to be announced as the HC of the Katz tomorrow. Guessing the blue check marks on twitter will start chirping tonight of it being a done deal. I’m really excited about what he can bring, especially if he can pluck one of his fellow assistants from the Baylor staff to come with him.
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what’s his role on the baylor staff?
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what’s his role on the baylor staff?
They don't call him "bag man tang" for nothing...
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awesome, i think I love bag man tang already
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With Brad you already know what you’re getting. Solid, good coach. With Tang he’s a wildcard, he could be anything. He could even be a good coach.
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Hopefully Tang can crack the door to Sunrise Christian Academy, and recruit TX hard.
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Well, every single name tied to this position other than Darian DeVries and KT Turner have either been eliminated or have been hired elsewhere. We should have our coach, officially, within the next 48 hours.
I expect Tang to be announced as the HC of the Katz tomorrow. Guessing the blue check marks on twitter will start chirping tonight of it being a done deal. I’m really excited about what he can bring, especially if he can pluck one of his fellow assistants from the Baylor staff to come with him.
Wonder if he would bring Jakus with him. Alvin Brooks has already worked at kstate so who know what his thoughts would be on coming back.
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Well, every single name tied to this position other than Darian DeVries and KT Turner have either been eliminated or have been hired elsewhere. We should have our coach, officially, within the next 48 hours.
I expect Tang to be announced as the HC of the Katz tomorrow. Guessing the blue check marks on twitter will start chirping tonight of it being a done deal. I’m really excited about what he can bring, especially if he can pluck one of his fellow assistants from the Baylor staff to come with him.
Wonder if he would bring Jakus with him. Alvin Brooks has already worked at kstate so who know what his thoughts would be on coming back.
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Either would be a major coup. Jakus apparently has a child with medical issues that Baylor has been very accommodating to. Maybe Pastrana is in play as well.
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Is Brad now back in the mix with the loss or is this nothing but a tang thang?
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it's tang
kso grumblings: brad's people reached out even prior to k-state's season being over expressing interest, k-state matched what they were told it would take, but in hindsight appears to have been leverage for a raise at illinois (or maybe huge raise at k-state but that wasn't doable?)
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Kind of crappy of Brad if true given the history with KSU.
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This blog has been team Jerome from day one.
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This blog has been team Jerome from day one.
I'm not the blog but on the record as tang was my number two behind brad.
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This blog has been team Jerome from day one.
Would we picket an “it’s Brad” announcement at this point? I think so.
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it's tang
kso grumblings: brad's people reached out even prior to k-state's season being over expressing interest, k-state matched what they were told it would take, but in hindsight appears to have been leverage for a raise at illinois (or maybe huge raise at k-state but that wasn't doable?)
that's the kind of slimey crap that makes a good basketball coach (although the results today didn't show it).
if we were concerned about tang not being slimey enough, let's not forget he coached at baylor forever.
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:bball:
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If it were tang it would be leaked by now
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If it were tang it would be leaked by now
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Um check the Tang thread, dumbass
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Kind of crappy of Brad if true given the history with KSU.
No that's what anyone should do in his situation.
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Kind of crappy of Brad if true given the history with KSU.
No that's what anyone should do in his situation.
His situation is somewhat unique in that the leverage is based on the sentiment held by fans. KSU likely wasn’t willing to pay anyone what they offered Brad, so preemptively reaching out purely for leverage is a little bridge-burny to me.
That would be like if I had a great relationship with a former co-worker and then pursue getting an offer from their new gig based on that relationship (which I wouldn’t have been able to get without that relationship) just to leverage a raise.
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Kind of crappy of Brad if true given the history with KSU.
No that's what anyone should do in his situation.
His situation is somewhat unique in that the leverage is based on the sentiment held by fans. KSU likely wasn’t willing to pay anyone what they offered Brad, so preemptively reaching out purely for leverage is a little bridge-burny to me.
I bet KSU would pay quite a few coaches what they would offer Brad, but not many of the offers would be taken seriously enough to garner a raise.
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Who breaks the Tang news first? Smellis always seems to get the scoop.
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eff man they cut out Kellis and gave it to John.
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1505696945246986247?s=21
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https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1505696945246986247?t=FquGmLB2btvVquyVUlxbbg
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Goddamnit it wetwillie
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Just delete mine
No, you win this time
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Haha suck it Goodman
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I hope he got an ungodly assistant pool to bring in a killer staff. Daddy wants 5 stars again.
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we got the bag man, see how they run, goo goo a'joob
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Surely Tang can convince Pack to stay, right?
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:Woot:
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only tang can bring ksu fans together like this. cats!
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Just delete mine
No, you win this time
the real scoop
https://twitter.com/goEMAW/status/O35325325345463463?t=SIeWmiqxgk0wiyFawc (https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=43453.0)
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Tang needs to go full bore after the LSU decommits. Probably already recruited them.
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Wildcard to watch:
Todd Golden
(https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2020/06/11120340/GettyImages-1196432805-1024x683.jpg)
I'm very happy with Tang, but man Golden has turned Florida around.
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I found this list of all D1 CBB coaches pretty interesting. You can organize it by length of tenure.
Oakland's coach has been there for 40 seasons. Izzo is the second-longest tenured D1 coach (at MSU since 95-96). Drew and Self are both finishing their 21st season at Baylor and KU, respectively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_coaches (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_coaches)
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Would love 20 years of Tang.
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That would put him in his 70s!
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Would love 10 years of Tang
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Yes, if he can continue to recruit it'll be fun