Thought provoking question: Most overrated cat fballer??

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Jesse Ertz

If by overrated you mean underrated then yes.

Yes

I will wait for the data to support this.

[mocat]

Josh Freeman was certainly overrated by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

[EMAWzifried]

Marcus Watts

hated

Was this a widely held belief or just yours?  I remember him as being a fan favorite.

Fair question. Didn't he like peak as a sophomore and be pretty frustrating after that?

Never was the same after dislocating his hip. Stud before that injury, tho.

[ben ji]

Was Thomas Clayton the Prince Era running back that transferred in from FSU and had biceps the size of bowling balls? He played alot but never seemed to do anything.

[steve dave]

Was Thomas Clayton the Prince Era running back that transferred in from FSU and had biceps the size of bowling balls? He played alot but never seemed to do anything.

Yes! His nickname was Hollywood! He actually played under Snyder too!

[ben ji]

Was Thomas Clayton the Prince Era running back that transferred in from FSU and had biceps the size of bowling balls? He played alot but never seemed to do anything.

Yes! His nickname was Hollywood!

Just read his wiki page and it brought back some memories. He was actually a Snyder recruit/transfer, orginally the #8RB recruit in the nation...was leading the nation in rushing after 3 weeks in 2005 before he got in a fight with a university parking attendant and was suspended for a while, ended up with 650 yards in 2005.

Left the team after 4 games in 2006 and was still drafted in the 6th round of the 2007 draft.

[michigancat]

you realize that was a returner, right?

also, this thread sucks and i hate it

Josh Freeman had 61 NFL starts, not Josh Scobey

[michigancat]

Was Thomas Clayton the Prince Era running back that transferred in from FSU and had biceps the size of bowling balls? He played alot but never seemed to do anything.

Yes! His nickname was Hollywood! He actually played under Snyder too!

I think he's a decent one. Also remember I was going through the 2006 media guide?

[ben ji]

Was Thomas Clayton the Prince Era running back that transferred in from FSU and had biceps the size of bowling balls? He played alot but never seemed to do anything.

Yes! His nickname was Hollywood! He actually played under Snyder too!

I think he's a decent one. Also remember I was going through the 2006 media guide?

YES! I have no memory of what he looked like but as soon as I saw that photo I immediately knew #5 was Thomas Clayton.

[MakeItRain]

Jesse Ertz

Since youtube censored me, let me say briefly, eat a big ol veiny dick.

[MakeItRain]

Josh Freeman is the clear answer

[8manpick]

you realize that was a returner, right?

also, this thread sucks and i hate it

Josh Freeman had 61 NFL starts, not Josh Scobey

Number 61 was the best!

[8manpick]

Every class one or two of the top rated QBs play in the nfl, if you think freeman was overrated, the problem was your expectation

[schreds21]

Jeff Simoneau

[nicname]

Freeman was appropriately rated by most of our fanbase. Everyone was aware of his shortcomings.

Waters, while very good, was overrated by our fan base (underrated by gE, and myself in the moment). Tyler Lockett, Tramaine Thompson and Co. contributed largely to this mystique.

Jarrod Cooper was appropriately rated, if not underrated by the end of his career. Cooper was excellent at what he was recruited here to do, stop the run. Did he have deficiencies in coverage? Yes, but when he was brought here because Ricky Williams and Troy Davis were running for a gazillion yards, Nebraska winning national titles running the option out of the I.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Was Thomas Clayton the Prince Era running back that transferred in from FSU and had biceps the size of bowling balls? He played alot but never seemed to do anything.

Yes! His nickname was Hollywood! He actually played under Snyder too!

I think he's a decent one. Also remember I was going through the 2006 media guide?

YES! I have no memory of what he looked like but as soon as I saw that photo I immediately knew #5 was Thomas Clayton.

I had a class with him that I believe he attended maybe twice. He had nice penmanship and the spiderweb tattoo he had on his elbow was pretty sexy

[420seriouscat69]

Every class one or two of the top rated QBs play in the nfl, if you think freeman was overrated, the problem was your expectation

And his results. He was drafted on “potential” just like Jordan Love. Not his results in college, which were underwhelming.

[420seriouscat69]

He never even felt like a true cat to me.

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[Paul Moscow]

lmao, he started 61 games in the nfl.

he started 35 for the qatz, never once made first, second or third team all big 12, won offensive player of the week like once, never placed on a preseason watchlist, 0-9 against KU, Nebraska, Missouri and never won a bowl game. he was never great for k-state and it seemed (to me at least) that k-state fans expected that he'd be really good to great. this isn't his fault of course, fans + media put wildly unrealistic expectations on young players and he also had ron prince as his coach and like brandon banks running crosses

[DaBigTrain]

To answer the OP. Nobody. All cats have been awesome and they continue to be awesome. WTF is the matter with you?

[nicname]

lmao, he started 61 games in the nfl.

he started 35 for the qatz, never once made first, second or third team all big 12, won offensive player of the week like once, never placed on a preseason watchlist, 0-9 against KU, Nebraska, Missouri and never won a bowl game. he was never great for k-state and it seemed (to me at least) that k-state fans expected that he'd be really good to great. this isn't his fault of course, fans + media put wildly unrealistic expectations on young players and he also had ron prince as his coach and like brandon banks running crosses

He had Jordy rough ridin' Nelson running crosses.

[Hurricane Cat]

overrated where definition is incoming hype > on-field performance

josh freeman
lamark brown
clinkscales
smoke patterson
marvin simmons
rashaad norwood
daniel davis
bryce brown
demarcus robinson
gary chandler

This is a great list of over hyped recruits that never really played much / lived up to expectations as Cats. Replace Freeman with Matt Boss.
Freeman belongs on the list of Cats that actually played a lot and were still highly overrated.

[stunted]

i take this thread to mean players majority of cat fans think were good but in hindsight overhyped.

what's up with jonathan beasley and ell roberson's completion %? beasley was below 50% and roberson was barely above in their senior seasons. different times? i remember thinking of beasley as being solid but not great (think thompson/waters) and roberson near the level of bishop. still won a lot of games

[420seriouscat69]

i take this thread to mean players majority of cat fans think were good but in hindsight overhyped.

what's up with jonathan beasley and ell roberson's completion %? beasley was below 50% and roberson was barely above in their senior seasons. different times? i remember thinking of beasley as being solid but not great (think thompson/waters) and roberson near the level of bishop. still won a lot of games

K-State fans love the eff out of athletic, mobile QB's, so they blackout during the passing game.