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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #150 on: December 01, 2022, 11:26:16 AM »
K-State beating a #5 ranked, 10-2 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl would have incredible significance for our program and the history of K-State football.

Claiming it doesn't matter with the opinion of an Alabama fan is completely irrelevant.

Would absolutely matter for recruiting, we'll tell every 'cruit on the trail about the win and flash that crap in their faces
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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #151 on: December 01, 2022, 11:31:43 AM »
It's good for recuriting for about 1 cycle.  As long as you regularly compete well in bowls, it's a pride thing, kids watch but everyone understands that its a showcase.  High level athletes are used to and know all about showcases, and they know that win or lose it's about showing out well but that's about it.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #152 on: December 01, 2022, 11:53:28 AM »
Winning the next 2 would be huge for this program. Here are some random stats for the almost no tradition nu-est big 12. Some relevent, some not so much, but still talking/recruiting points I guess.

Pre-computers/playoff National Championships
TCU and BYU

CFP Appearances
Cincy

Big 12 Championships
Baylor: 3
K-State: 2
OSU: 1
TCU: 1

Bowl Coalition/Bowl Alliance/BCS/NY6
WVU: 3 wins (4 appearances)
Baylor: 2 wins (5 appearances)
TCU: 2 wins (3 appearances)
OSU: 2 wins (3 appearances)
UCF: 2 wins (3 appearances)
K-State: 1 win (3 appearances)
Iowa St: 1 win (1 appearance)
KU: 1 win (1 appearance)
Cincy: 0 wins (4 appearances)
TTech: 0 wins (2 appearances)
BYU: 0 wins (0 appearances)
Houston: 0 wins (0 appearances)

10 or more win seasons
BYU: 18
TCU: 16
OSU: 10
Houston: 9
WVU: 8
K-State: 8
Cincy: 8
Baylor: 7
UCF: 7
TTech: 6
KU: 3
Iowa St: 0

K-State has 10 seasons of 10 or more wins, not 8. 
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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #153 on: December 01, 2022, 11:55:50 AM »
As a kazzuu cats fan, my outlook is I'm very excited that the portal is a thing.  Feel like where in the past after losing some key components after a good(great?) season we should be able to pickup some immediate plug and play playaz.  And honestly if there is one thing that a playa wants to do it's play.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #154 on: December 01, 2022, 11:58:48 AM »
this is just my personal ranking

1. cfp
2. conf champ
3. 10 win season




4. victory in some specific bowl

I need clarification here but are you talking about a 12 team CFP or a 4 team CFP?

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #155 on: December 01, 2022, 01:23:03 PM »
this is just my personal ranking

1. cfp
2. conf champ
3. 10 win season




4. victory in some specific bowl

I need clarification here but are you talking about a 12 team CFP or a 4 team CFP?

4-team.

here would be my personal ranking in the 12-team CFP era:

1. cfp champ
2. conf champ
3. losing in cfp champ game
4. losing in cfp semifinal
5. 10 win season
6. qualifying for 12-team cfp




7. victory in some specific bowl

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #156 on: December 01, 2022, 01:37:05 PM »
I'm guessing these are what recruits care about. So it's what I care about

1. Playoff National Championship
2. Pre playoff National Championship
3. 4 Team Playoff Appearance
4. Conference Championship
5. 12 Team Playoff/NY6 (non-CFP)/BCS/Bowl Alliance/Bowl Coalition Appearance
6. 10 win season

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #157 on: December 01, 2022, 01:49:32 PM »
this is just my personal ranking

1. cfp
2. conf champ
3. 10 win season




4. victory in some specific bowl

I need clarification here but are you talking about a 12 team CFP or a 4 team CFP?

4-team.

here would be my personal ranking in the 12-team CFP era:

1. cfp champ
2. conf champ
3. losing in cfp champ game
4. losing in cfp semifinal
5. 10 win season
6. qualifying for 12-team cfp




7. victory in some specific bowl

I agree with all of this but I'd swap 6 and 7. Winning your last game matters and I'd bet the players would rather win the Bahamas Bowl rather than losing in the cold. If this were our 7th playoff appearance or whatever they say we would have had, I'm sure the fans would not think making it and being bounced early 5 out of 7 times, would be the least bit meaningful.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #160 on: December 01, 2022, 02:09:23 PM »
1. cfp champ
2. conf champ
3. losing in cfp champ game
4. losing in cfp semifinal
5. 10 win season
6. qualifying for 12-team cfp




7. victory in some specific bowl

I agree with all of this but I'd swap 6 and 7. Winning your last game matters and I'd bet the players would rather win the Bahamas Bowl rather than losing in the cold. If this were our 7th playoff appearance or whatever they say we would have had, I'm sure the fans would not think making it and being bounced early 5 out of 7 times, would be the least bit meaningful.

that's probably true

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #161 on: December 01, 2022, 02:11:04 PM »
https://twitter.com/mattbrowncfb/status/1598352946479222785
That’s analogous to making like a Sweet 16 appearance? Odds definitely are at least making a title game under that system. Sucks for us.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #162 on: December 01, 2022, 02:13:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/mattbrowncfb/status/1598352946479222785
I like our chances of at least 1 natty, daddy!

I think the '98 team, maybe the '00 team were the only ones good enough to win it.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #163 on: December 01, 2022, 02:16:31 PM »
‘98 would have brought it home. Tripped on their dicks against aTm, timely wake up call and then just woodshedding all the way to a natty

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2022, 03:00:24 PM »
https://twitter.com/mattbrowncfb/status/1598352946479222785
I like our chances of at least 1 natty, daddy!

I think the '98 team, maybe the '00 team were the only ones good enough to win it.

The healthy 2003 team the destroyed OU would have been fun in a 12 team playoff

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #165 on: December 03, 2022, 08:30:31 PM »
All bowl game results that aren't the cfp are meaningless
Agree but I do think getting to double digit W's is meaningful, which the bowl game can help with
Double digit wins aren't meaningful

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #167 on: December 31, 2022, 04:07:45 PM »
Now that it is complete, where does this season rank all-time for you Cat football fans? In terms of overall enjoyment. I'd put it behind 1998 and maybe 1997. Maybe a hair behind 2012.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #168 on: December 31, 2022, 04:13:40 PM »
A very nice surprise. 

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #169 on: December 31, 2022, 04:21:39 PM »
Thought I'll just put this here:                                                                                                                           .
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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #170 on: December 31, 2022, 04:47:53 PM »
A great season. A flag will fly for the B12 Title.

My biggest fear was not that Bama's offense would be that good. My fear was their DLine would kill us. To my surprise, our line acquitted themselves well.


Outlook is sunny with a breeze at my back.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #171 on: December 31, 2022, 04:52:23 PM »
Thought I'll just put this here:                                                                                                                           .
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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #172 on: December 31, 2022, 04:53:24 PM »
A great season. A flag will fly for the B12 Title.

My biggest fear was not that Bama's offense would be that good. My fear was their DLine would kill us. To my surprise, our line acquitted themselves well.


Outlook is sunny with a breeze at my back.
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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #173 on: December 31, 2022, 04:57:58 PM »
Yes, even with the massive gap in recruited talent, we made them fight for about three quarters.

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Re: What's your K-State FB outlook?
« Reply #174 on: December 31, 2022, 05:20:57 PM »
We came a long way this year, but to take the next step we need upgrade at WR. I think we'll be better with transfers and recruits. Also for top-level offenses, probably need to be deeper at CB. Again, I think we're making strides there.  Just my opinion; feel free to critique.