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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2020, 01:23:15 PM »
The offensive coordinator is always the inverse of the backup quarterback to fans in terms of popularity. Just think how good we'd be if we fired the OC and started Nick Ast.

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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2020, 01:28:57 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2020, 01:29:57 PM »
The offensive coordinator is always the inverse of the backup quarterback to fans in terms of popularity. Just think how good we'd be if we fired the OC and started Nick Ast.
Might as well just say coordinators.  I don't think it's exclusive to offense.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2020, 01:33:01 PM »
1993 lost 23-27 to a crappy unranked iowa state team.....we went into that game ranked no.18......a super weird stain on the beginning of the DOD.
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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2020, 01:33:31 PM »
Defense was OK until the covid/injury bug hit.

offense is awful and the style doesn't help recruit anyone.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2020, 01:35:08 PM »
Defense was OK until the covid/injury bug hit.

offense is awful and the style doesn't help recruit anyone.

If by anyone you mean future NFL WR I agree
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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2020, 01:35:47 PM »
The offensive coordinator is always the inverse of the backup quarterback to fans in terms of popularity. Just think how good we'd be if we fired the OC and started Nick Ast.
Might as well just say coordinators.  I don't think it's exclusive to offense.

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We've definitely had some DC's we like (heck we honestly like most of them) but I don't think KSU fans ever liked an OC.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2020, 01:37:21 PM »
I liked Dimel a lot back in 2012.

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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2020, 01:41:32 PM »
I liked Dimel a lot back in 2012.
Yeah and he was an idiot like the other 10 years he was here

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2020, 01:43:41 PM »
i liked dimel a lot but everything went out the door during that WVU game where we threw a fullback screen just before halftime that got pick 6'd or whatever.  that was a fireable offense ( ;) ).  after that moment i was done with him.

i like Mess tbh and think he's done a pretty good job.  I'll be excited to see what we look like with a good/competent OL in 2022.


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« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2020, 01:50:06 PM »
i liked dimel a lot but everything went out the door during that WVU game where we threw a fullback screen just before halftime that got pick 6'd or whatever.  that was a fireable offense ( ;) ).  after that moment i was done with him.

i like Mess tbh and think he's done a pretty good job.  I'll be excited to see what we look like with a good/competent OL in 2022.

After 2012 Dimel did some really creative things on offense, especially with some wild RPO's. My biggest problem was he used QB's as battering rams too much.

I think Mess is fine too. Can't do much with this OL

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2020, 01:51:47 PM »
Wonder how things would've played out had Holcombe stayed.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2020, 02:05:38 PM »
The offensive coordinator is always the inverse of the backup quarterback to fans in terms of popularity. Just think how good we'd be if we fired the OC and started Nick Ast.
Might as well just say coordinators.  I don't think it's exclusive to offense.

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We've definitely had some DC's we like (heck we honestly like most of them) but I don't think KSU fans ever liked an OC.
did we not like ron hudson? i thought we liked ron hudson...

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2020, 02:21:27 PM »
The offensive coordinator is always the inverse of the backup quarterback to fans in terms of popularity. Just think how good we'd be if we fired the OC and started Nick Ast.
Might as well just say coordinators.  I don't think it's exclusive to offense.

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We've definitely had some DC's we like (heck we honestly like most of them) but I don't think KSU fans ever liked an OC.
did we not like ron hudson? i thought we liked ron hudson...
LHOFHCBS was the OC in DoD 1.0 so there was no point in complaining about the OC

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2020, 02:50:30 PM »
Wonder how things would've played out had Holcombe stayed.

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that's a good point


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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2020, 02:57:02 PM »
The offensive coordinator is always the inverse of the backup quarterback to fans in terms of popularity. Just think how good we'd be if we fired the OC and started Nick Ast.
Might as well just say coordinators.  I don't think it's exclusive to offense.

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We've definitely had some DC's we like (heck we honestly like most of them) but I don't think KSU fans ever liked an OC.
did we not like ron hudson? i thought we liked ron hudson...

oh people hated him, we ran his ass to Kentucky after a Top 10 season

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2020, 02:57:50 PM »
people HATED ron hudson.


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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2020, 08:35:43 PM »
yes, messingham and his messfense is absolutely garbage.  Anything works when you have the best players on the field.
I mean, no one saw it coming.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2020, 08:42:20 PM »
yes, messingham and his messfense is absolutely garbage.  Anything works when you have the best players on the field.
I mean, no one saw it coming.

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He worked for Paul Rhodes, and we have K-State fans out here repeating flood aggie talking points. Where's your dignity?
Eh, essentially in the article it noted how he would have one amazing series/quarter and be super frustrating the rest of the way.  Feels like that part hasn't improved much.
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« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2020, 08:43:20 PM »
Defense was OK until the covid/injury bug hit.

offense is awful and the style doesn't help recruit anyone.

LOL, that offense has 3 NFL quarterbacks.

We've averaged 43 PPG against the best team in the conference, that offense is fine we need players to run it. And before anyone says something about OU's defense, only LSU scored more points in regulation against them in the last two years. We have the second and third highest regulation point totals against them since Klieman got here.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2020, 08:47:52 PM »
yes, messingham and his messfense is absolutely garbage.  Anything works when you have the best players on the field.
I mean, no one saw it coming.

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He worked for Paul Rhodes, and we have K-State fans out here repeating flood aggie talking points. Where's your dignity?
Eh, essentially in the article it noted how he would have one amazing series/quarter and be super frustrating the rest of the way.  Feels like that part hasn't improved much.

Cool. Who's the offensive coordinator that would get more points out of this team? I don't even like mess to be honest, but y'all acting like he's turned 2016 Texas Tech into Rice.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2020, 02:53:10 AM »
Ron Hudson got fired at Kentucky.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2020, 09:13:23 AM »
Maybe the ceiling against OU is obtainable with better fits/players but the floor needs to be raised as well.  Our offense will finish no better than 3rd to last in any statistical category in the Big 12.  We came out of a bye week, with a starting QB we've had for over a month, and couldn't score a point against Iowa State.

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2020, 09:17:03 AM »
We came out of a bye week, with a starting QB we've had for over a month, and couldn't score a point against Iowa State.

with a "generational player" (coach's own words) at RB

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Re: Worst K-State Qat Losses of The Modern Era?
« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2020, 09:27:40 AM »
Defense was OK until the covid/injury bug hit.

offense is awful and the style doesn't help recruit anyone.

LOL, that offense has 3 NFL quarterbacks.

We've averaged 43 PPG against the best team in the conference, that offense is fine we need players to run it. And before anyone says something about OU's defense, only LSU scored more points in regulation against them in the last two years. We have the second and third highest regulation point totals against them since Klieman got here.

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