Farmageddon Thread

[catastrophe]

Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.

His decision making needs a lot of improvement

That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.

In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?

I’d need to see some stats but it’s not like he was tucking and running a lot or lighting defenses up with an amazing QBR before Colorado. So I don’t really get the insistence on that narrative.

[XocolateThundarr]

Most disappointing season in a long time. Just gross all around.

[kstater]

Rushing the field for winning 10 games has to be the most Iowa thing ever right?

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[I_have_purplewood]

He can't beat Matt Campbell..  Let that sink in a little.

[_33]

Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.

His decision making needs a lot of improvement

That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.

In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?

All his best games came after CU so I don't think so.

[Katpappy]

Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.

His decision making needs a lot of improvement

That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.

NEW OC

Agreed, but CK has a hard time getting rid of his friends.

[catastrophe]

Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.

His decision making needs a lot of improvement

That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.

In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?

No, i was kinda just giving you crap. I do think that changed him. But this offensive philosophy is doing him no favors. He's so obviously an instinctive player. Why does he look like he's doing calculus everytime he's in the pocket? IMO that's coaching.

It’s definitely coaching. I think part of it is development but I also just think we’re doing a horrible job of drawing up a scheme that fits his skill set. We badly need a new OC.

[michigancat]

Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.

His decision making needs a lot of improvement

That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.

In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?

I’d need to see some stats but it’s not like he was tucking and running a lot or lighting defenses up with an amazing QBR before Colorado. So I don’t really get the insistence on that narrative.

I thought he was just slower and less nimble

[michigancat]

Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.

His decision making needs a lot of improvement

That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.

In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?

No, i was kinda just giving you crap. I do think that changed him. But this offensive philosophy is doing him no favors. He's so obviously an instinctive player. Why does he look like he's doing calculus everytime he's in the pocket? IMO that's coaching.

Yeah I'd agree with that

[Super PurpleCat]

This season was yuck.  I have little confidence in the people running this thing. 

[nicname]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.

Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.

https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df

[doom]

Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.

His decision making needs a lot of improvement

That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.

In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?

I’d need to see some stats but it’s not like he was tucking and running a lot or lighting defenses up with an amazing QBR before Colorado. So I don’t really get the insistence on that narrative.

Last year he was though. He's been told to tuck and slide like a bitch. He's a stallion and he needs to run. eff the consequences.

[michigancat]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it.

Yeah I want people to be more positive (or at least less "oh God we're the biggest losers ever"-y) but I understand why they are sad

[Benja]

In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).

[I_have_purplewood]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it.

Yeah I want people to be more positive (or at least less "oh God we're the biggest losers ever"-y) but I understand why they are sad

You would fit well posting on the 'phog' board but thank you for understanding the sadness here. 

[nicname]

Last 4 regular season games:
2019 2-2, 8-4
2020 0-4, 4-6
2021 2-2, 7-5
2022 3-1, 9-3
2023 2-2, 8-4
2024 1-3, 8-4

Stumble down the stretch to 8-4.  That’s our MO.

Pretty gross when you look at it like that.

[TaqMan]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.

Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.

https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df

I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.

[tdaver]

Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.

even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state

I bet Klieman has already lost more times to Iowa State than Bill did in both his tenures combined.

No one needs to double check this.

1.0 13-4, retired after back to back losses in 04 and 05
2.0 9-1, retired after loss in 18

[nicname]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.

Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.

https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df

I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.

The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.

In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).

[Benja]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.

Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.

https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df

I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.

The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.

In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).

Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.

[nicname]

That’s not to crap on AJ either. He could prob be his same smiling/ stoic self leading a successful offense, but this offensive staff didn’t do him any favors. The production wasn’t great, but the aesthetics of this offense were ass most of the season. Part of the reason why the season was so frustrating.

[nicname]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.

Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.

https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df

I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.

The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.

In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).

Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.

I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense.

[Benja]

Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.

Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.

https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df

I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.

The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.

In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).

Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.

I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense.

I know right?

[michigancat]

Warrior spirit LMAO nerds

[Benja]

Warrior spirit LMAO nerds