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Quote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 11:01:33 PMQuote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:57:05 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:51:44 PMQuote from: TaqMan on November 30, 2024, 10:43:21 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:26:44 PMMich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore. Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion. https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7dfI'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron. Quote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:37:27 PMIn all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over). Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense. I know right?
Quote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:57:05 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:51:44 PMQuote from: TaqMan on November 30, 2024, 10:43:21 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:26:44 PMMich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore. Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion. https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7dfI'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron. Quote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:37:27 PMIn all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over). Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense.
Quote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:51:44 PMQuote from: TaqMan on November 30, 2024, 10:43:21 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:26:44 PMMich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore. Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion. https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7dfI'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron. Quote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:37:27 PMIn all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over). Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.
Quote from: TaqMan on November 30, 2024, 10:43:21 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:26:44 PMMich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore. Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion. https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7dfI'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron. Quote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:37:27 PMIn all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
Quote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:26:44 PMMich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore. Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion. https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7dfI'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore. Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion. https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
Quote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 11:03:54 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 11:01:33 PMQuote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:57:05 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:51:44 PMQuote from: TaqMan on November 30, 2024, 10:43:21 PMQuote from: nicname on November 30, 2024, 10:26:44 PMMich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore. Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion. https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7dfI'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron. Quote from: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:37:27 PMIn all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over). Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense. I know right? For comparison, Klein's new team is 8-4 this season, also.
We went 8-4 with basically a partially healthy redshirt freshman QB. Good defensive effort. I love the Cats! Always will!
Quote from: CHONGS on November 30, 2024, 08:44:23 PMQuote from: pissclams on November 30, 2024, 08:41:00 PMQuote from: PurpleOil on November 30, 2024, 08:21:00 PMKleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.even ron prince had a winning record against iowa stateI bet Klieman has already lost more times to Iowa State than Bill did in both his tenures combined.No one needs to double check this.1.0 13-4, retired after back to back losses in 04 and 052.0 9-1, retired after loss in 18
Quote from: pissclams on November 30, 2024, 08:41:00 PMQuote from: PurpleOil on November 30, 2024, 08:21:00 PMKleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.even ron prince had a winning record against iowa stateI bet Klieman has already lost more times to Iowa State than Bill did in both his tenures combined.No one needs to double check this.
Quote from: PurpleOil on November 30, 2024, 08:21:00 PMKleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state
Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
Quote from: _33 on November 30, 2024, 09:35:57 PMAvery needs to stop spinning. Just run out of the pocket laterally.It is a pretty strange move that he seems to love dearly.
Avery needs to stop spinning. Just run out of the pocket laterally.
I’m choosing to believe this was a throw away season who’s only purpose was to get everyone experience for a run next year.
