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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2150 on: June 18, 2021, 04:34:34 PM »
I'm extremely liberal, if not down right socialist when it comes to things like real and beneficial infrastructure projects.

That's what we pay the government to do.

That is the smartest post you've ever made.

lol, all he said was "I like when the government spends money on projects I deem worthy, like that wall to keep Mexicans out." His view on infrastructure is the same as anyone else, even libertarians.
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Presents that jewel of a post. 

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« Reply #2151 on: June 18, 2021, 04:50:03 PM »
I went Juco route and then graduated from K-State knew exactly what I wanted to major in and what no and never changed. Also only took out $5k in student loans throughout the whole thing. But I do feel bad for the kid that changes his mind and then adds another year or two onto his education or whatnot. It's a lot to ask of a young person to say figure out what you want to do for the rest of your life. Some know right off the bat others don't. Understand why most of the pre-reqs are first couple years but also a lot of fluff stuff you shouldn't have to do.

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« Reply #2152 on: June 18, 2021, 04:52:53 PM »
I went Juco route and then graduated from K-State knew exactly what I wanted to major in and what no and never changed. Also only took out $5k in student loans throughout the whole thing. But I do feel bad for the kid that changes his mind and then adds another year or two onto his education or whatnot. It's a lot to ask of a young person to say figure out what you want to do for the rest of your life. Some know right off the bat others don't. Understand why most of the pre-reqs are first couple years but also a lot of fluff stuff you shouldn't have to do.

why do you feel bad for them?

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« Reply #2153 on: June 18, 2021, 04:52:54 PM »
I feel bad for the kids spending 300$ a credit at KSU And ku when I paid like 80$/credit


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« Reply #2154 on: June 18, 2021, 04:54:16 PM »
A lot of those kids don't think of the repercussions and are paying on those school loans for forever. But we are pushed by adults to get that paper and figure crap out at 18. THink more should work for a year or two. Just my opinion bros
Very #blessed that me and the wifey don't have any school loans

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« Reply #2155 on: June 18, 2021, 04:56:36 PM »
sd is right and getting a bachelor's degree is still an extremely good investment for those that only care about that aspect.
They need to alter costs & fix the way they do federal loans. The system is a joke. I could do a whole recap on how the system is rigged, but you guys don’t give a crap if this is your feeling on the free market and college.

A lot of those kids don't think of the repercussions and are paying on those school loans for forever. But we are pushed by adults to get that paper and figure crap out at 18. THink more should work for a year or two. Just my opinion bros
Very #blessed that me and the wifey don't have any school loans
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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2156 on: June 18, 2021, 04:58:28 PM »
A lot of those kids don't think of the repercussions and are paying on those school loans for forever. But we are pushed by adults to get that paper and figure crap out at 18. THink more should work for a year or two. Just my opinion bros
Very #blessed that me and the wifey don't have any school loans

yeah, that's certainly on parents there if they are pushing something on a kid and forcing them to reap it. but I'm personally for giving these young adults the opportunity to make their decisions and whatnot. I don't feel like that's a knock on the system, financing options, etc. and we shouldn't restrict any of that just because of it imo.

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« Reply #2157 on: June 18, 2021, 04:59:53 PM »
They need to alter costs & fix the way they do federal loans. The system is a joke. I could do a whole recap on how the system is rigged, but you guys don’t give a crap if this is your feeling on the free market and college.

I'd certainly be open to hearing it and taking something from it

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« Reply #2158 on: June 18, 2021, 05:02:59 PM »
I think it's unfair that a teenager can take out a $100k loan and not discharge it to bankruptcy. Lenders should hold some of the risk in a loan.

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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2159 on: June 18, 2021, 05:04:54 PM »
They need to alter costs & fix the way they do federal loans. The system is a joke. I could do a whole recap on how the system is rigged, but you guys don’t give a crap if this is your feeling on the free market and college.

I'd certainly be open to hearing it and taking something from it
:thumbs: Heading to a happy hour, but I would love to help educate some of the things that help certain individuals in the system. I think college is great! But the federal loan setup is a joke and the ROI of some of these degrees are criminal too. I’ll try and find sometime and articulate it soon on here.

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« Reply #2160 on: June 18, 2021, 05:10:25 PM »
I think it's unfair that a teenager can take out a $100k loan and not discharge it to bankruptcy. Lenders should hold some of the risk in a loan.

The market for student loans would go down 99%
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« Reply #2161 on: June 18, 2021, 05:12:20 PM »
I think it's unfair that a teenager can take out a $100k loan and not discharge it to bankruptcy. Lenders should hold some of the risk in a loan.

you are then asking the lender to underwrite the terms and accept/reject some students. that's against the entire point of the program.

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« Reply #2162 on: June 18, 2021, 05:38:07 PM »
]They need to alter costs & fix the way they do federal loans. The system is a joke.

wacky, i'm all for improving our education system, including how we allocate costs, but let's dispense with the woebegonen victim crap.  from what i gather of your life, you easily are easily in the top 10 or top 20% income decile in the united states.  whatever you've paid in student loans has been well worth it for you and your family.

and i don't think the federal govt should retroactively subsidize your education.  you, along with almost everyone else that posts on this message board, is massively fortunate with our lot in life and the govt should be taking from us and spending it to help others join us in our success.
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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2163 on: June 18, 2021, 05:42:38 PM »
I think we all agree that college should be free

Public schools should be more expensive than they are.
This is a take.

He 100% believes it too. These idiots think we're falling behind the rest of the world in education because it isn't exclusive enough. Never mind the fact we already have the least equitable education system than every other country above us.

Sap more resources from the poor and disadvantaged then they'll just quit and we won't have to count them.

Going to college is very little about education and primarily about signaling.  It is wasteful to be spending so much money as a society on college education.  Differences in education between countries, especially at the college level, explains little in terms of differences in income per person between countries.

The poor and disadvantaged would be much better off in a society where a bachelor's degree is not considered the bare minimum for so many jobs.  If college was much more expensive (not so heavily subsidized for everyone), then I would guess enrollment at universities would drop 50-60%.  This would make for a much better society for the poor and disadvantaged to get ahead in.

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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2164 on: June 18, 2021, 06:24:20 PM »
Make freshman classes cheaper and upperclassmen classes more expensive.

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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2165 on: June 18, 2021, 07:09:20 PM »
]They need to alter costs & fix the way they do federal loans. The system is a joke.

wacky, i'm all for improving our education system, including how we allocate costs, but let's dispense with the woebegonen victim crap.  from what i gather of your life, you easily are easily in the top 10 or top 20% income decile in the united states.  whatever you've paid in student loans has been well worth it for you and your family.

and i don't think the federal govt should retroactively subsidize your education.  you, along with almost everyone else that posts on this message board, is massively fortunate with our lot in life and the govt should be taking from us and spending it to help others join us in our success.
Fair. I did have to really hustle for it. Finding a company that covered most of my MBA costs made me feel better about my negligence at K-State, made me feel better about the debt I had in whole.

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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2166 on: June 18, 2021, 07:36:25 PM »
Lol, love you Wacks, but didn't you actively participate in and profit from saddling poor students with significant student debt based on the hopes of obtaining practically worthless degrees?


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« Reply #2167 on: June 18, 2021, 07:52:59 PM »
Lol, love you Wacks, but didn't you actively participate in and profit from saddling poor students with significant student debt based on the hopes of obtaining practically worthless degrees?
Yes. This is why I know so much about this stuff. Also, I thought it was a great Avenue at the time for parents who had kids early in their lives and never had a chance at furthering their education. Many people I helped recruit to some of these organizations have a good life now. Night school/online stuff helped them get a ACCREDITED degree. Most of them got grants too due to their situation. That’s why the system is flawed. Guy who was in massive debt took a job, to help pay his loans, while furthering his education, but also putting people in the same situation I was in. I still get messages from previous students thanking me for believing in them. I gave them my cell, so when times were tough with life & school, I tried to motivate them that they could do it. When I joined that field, there was no incentive for how many students you recruited, but it was a huge mess about that stuff previous to 2011.

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« Reply #2168 on: June 18, 2021, 08:02:05 PM »
I also got paid peanuts when I look back at it too. I honestly learned more through my 18 month MBA program at University of Phoenix than I did at K-State in my 5 years there. I got so close with the journalism school & was a ambassador there too. Because my professors loved me, they game me a pass for my horrid grammatical crap at the time. Life is literally who you know, are you likable, etc. when I’m trying to hire a dentist these days, the field barely looks at their CV or where they went for school. They want to know about their experience first.

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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2169 on: June 18, 2021, 08:42:34 PM »
Make freshman classes cheaper and upperclassmen classes more expensive.

I like this idea.

I also like the idea of not making architects take Chem or English majors take college algebra, etc.

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Re: The Biden (interim) Dictator
« Reply #2170 on: June 18, 2021, 08:56:11 PM »
Make freshman classes cheaper and upperclassmen classes more expensive.

I like this idea.

I also like the idea of not making architects take Chem or English majors take college algebra, etc.
I prefer a well rounded education. You should know more than your field of study.

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« Reply #2171 on: June 18, 2021, 09:41:49 PM »
Make freshman classes cheaper and upperclassmen classes more expensive.

I like this idea.

I also like the idea of not making architects take Chem or English majors take college algebra, etc.
Here for all of this. It’s an old broke ass system

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« Reply #2172 on: June 18, 2021, 10:00:22 PM »
the market is efficient fellas and fellettes

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« Reply #2173 on: June 18, 2021, 10:07:02 PM »
the market is efficient fellas and fellettes
How much student loans did you pay for, bud?

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« Reply #2174 on: June 18, 2021, 10:10:05 PM »
I think it's unfair that a teenager can take out a $100k loan and not discharge it to bankruptcy. Lenders should hold some of the risk in a loan.

you are then asking the lender to underwrite the terms and accept/reject some students. that's against the entire point of the program.
I think I’m with Rage on this one. School loans have practically become a predatory business. I’m not sure why we don’t treat them more like payday lending.

Like MIR said the whole system is only out rottened by healthcare in the US. I think the federal government could do a lot to overhaul the system starting with free community college and actually negotiating tuition prices in addition to subsidizing loans.