yeah, my daughter joined the swim team last summer. it was her first year. she wasn't nearly as good as a lot of them but not the worst either. was their #2 backstroke and #4 freestyle swimmer and it was fun to see where she was able to get points for the team even though she never finished first in a race. also in the little kids division you can get a lot of points just by finishing your butterfly or breast stroke and not DQ'ing. there are heats where 3/4 of the kids get DQd in the under 8 age division here.