competitive little kid sports

[steve dave]

also I can buy about two strikes a game from blues that are slow to make a pitch call by loudly hooting and or hollering when one pours in there. it's all about timing.

[Spracne]

How do you decide when to hoot versus holler, and when to both hoot and holler?

[Stupid Fitz]

How do you decide when to hoot versus holler, and when to both hoot and holler?

In my experience, hoots are more positive than hollers.

[steve dave]

How do you decide when to hoot versus holler, and when to both hoot and holler?

My body just does it. Fully reflex.


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[Dugout DickStone]

college age little league coach stone would quickly yell "boom" or "bang" to get that call

[Dugout DickStone]

daughter's team lost their middle school league championship yesterday on a 3 pointer with only a few seconds left (they had a 2 point lead).  from thinking they had won it (against an undefeated team that had previously beaten them) to that crushing realization they lost, there was a lot of tears, and i think it's harder/more nerve wrecking on the parents.

Pretty sure I have FB friends who had their girls in that game because boy did my feed have videos of a girls bball game ending on a 3

[meow meow]

daughter's team lost their middle school league championship yesterday on a 3 pointer with only a few seconds left (they had a 2 point lead).  from thinking they had won it (against an undefeated team that had previously beaten them) to that crushing realization they lost, there was a lot of tears, and i think it's harder/more nerve wrecking on the parents.

Pretty sure I have FB friends who had their girls in that game because boy did my feed have videos of a girls bball game ending on a 3

it was a great game to be honest. 

[steve dave]

In your face CF3


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[steve dave]

college age little league coach stone would quickly yell "boom" or "bang" to get that call

"THERE WE GO PEYTON!!!" is kinda how I do it. then if the ball call is given I give an "OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH LOOKED GOOD PEYTON KEEP DEALIN" I can't overuse it though. Buy at max 2 a game.

[Kat Kid]

The good thing about being the coach is I get to yell whatever I want up to and including swear words


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[Kat Kid]

Can I get some posts in the chat about what you guys say during games?

Nothing?

Only encouragement?

I know it is bad and I only do it a bit but I do yell a few directions/cues for my kid during soccer.

Something like “get to the line!”
“Take him!”
“Drop early!”
“Pressure!”

Am I a monster? Probably.

Good question. I keep pretty quiet for the most part and I think that is how it should be. It drives me nuts hearing parents scream at their kid the whole game. I remember a guy last year during a baseball game yelling, "watch it all the way in" every pitch for every player. It was enraging after like the first inning. For the rec stuff, which is all of Lil SFs sports outside of baseball, I will yell out every once in a while. Baseball is an absolute no no. Our coach is great and he sees things before me anyway, but we all know not to get involved during the game outside of encouragement. He is very positive and doesn't want any negativity regardless, let alone from dumbass parents.

Prologue:
My phone case has Icarus on it, which I try to use as a reminder for myself but may be doing a hubris here...

But there are sooooooo many soccer parents that do not understand basic rules. The basics. And once we venture into tactics and what the players are being asked to do, there are a handful that just absolutely want to play a primordial form of soccer that is some sort of distant whisper of their block headed ancestors Booting it and running and dribbling and kicking it. There is a parent on our team that absolutely loses it every time we give away a ball building from the back and then demands long goal kicks and punts despite the fact the keeper is not his kid and I hate him.

[michigancat]

When I coached basketball and soccer I was very much a roll the ball out and let the kids play while I mostly sat and cheered during games and boy oh boy some parents do NOT care for that

[schreds21]

And yet they never volunteered to take your place

[nicname]

For football I mostly yell the same crap I do during ksu games aside from just yelling at the top of my lungs on defense.

For basketball it’s lots of “compete!” “ball pressure” “dead” and loud attaboys whenever they make good plays. I try to explore effort.

[Kat Kid]

For football I mostly yell the same crap I do during ksu games aside from just yelling at the top of my lungs on defense.

For basketball it’s lots of “compete!” “ball pressure” “dead” and loud attaboys whenever they make good plays. I try to explore effort.

Absolutely. My favorite thing to do.

[_33]

When I coached basketball and soccer I was very much a roll the ball out and let the kids play while I mostly sat and cheered during games and boy oh boy some parents do NOT care for that

Many, MANY more youth coaches should take the same approach. Even some middle school and high school basketball coaches should do WAY more sitting.

[steve dave]

When I coached basketball and soccer I was very much a roll the ball out and let the kids play while I mostly sat and cheered during games and boy oh boy some parents do NOT care for that

Many, MANY more youth coaches should take the same approach. Even some middle school and high school basketball coaches should do WAY more sitting.

hard disagree here for competitive or middle school+

[michigancat]

When I coached basketball and soccer I was very much a roll the ball out and let the kids play while I mostly sat and cheered during games and boy oh boy some parents do NOT care for that

Many, MANY more youth coaches should take the same approach. Even some middle school and high school basketball coaches should do WAY more sitting.

hard disagree here for competitive or middle school+

I was definitely coaching t-shirt rec leagues when the parents got pissed but I was the same on competitive teams and I didn't get any crap. IMO a competitive middle school+ basketball team shouldn't need a coach telling the players where to stand every possession. The kids either can't hear or will be too slow if they need to wait for the coach to tell them where to go.  jmo though

[steve dave]

Even College basketball kids need coaching. It’s not “cool” to be cool for the aesthetic.


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[nicname]

When I coached basketball and soccer I was very much a roll the ball out and let the kids play while I mostly sat and cheered during games and boy oh boy some parents do NOT care for that

Many, MANY more youth coaches should take the same approach. Even some middle school and high school basketball coaches should do WAY more sitting.

hard disagree here for competitive or middle school+

I was definitely coaching t-shirt rec leagues when the parents got pissed but I was the same on competitive teams and I didn't get any crap. IMO a competitive middle school+ basketball team shouldn't need a coach telling the players where to stand every possession. The kids either can't hear or will be too slow if they need to wait for the coach to tell them where to go.  jmo though

At least in basketball, most of the emphasis should be on teaching kids how to play rather than how to run certain plays. Most of the coaching should literally be harping on them to sprint in transition, to swing/reverse the ball, getting low on defense, closing out, etc. Teach the basics of motion offense, put in a zone buster, and a press break (you learn to press this way too). Try to run man to man as much as possible w/ ball pressure and a hand in the passing lane.

All of those skills translate to whatever high-level concepts a high school and beyond coach will run.

[michigancat]

Even College basketball kids need coaching. It’s not “cool” to be cool for the aesthetic.


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Coaches at higher levels constantly directing traffic during a game are mostly doing it to look "cool" for parents/donors

[Sandstone Outcropping]

When I coached basketball and soccer I was very much a roll the ball out and let the kids play while I mostly sat and cheered during games and boy oh boy some parents do NOT care for that

Many, MANY more youth coaches should take the same approach. Even some middle school and high school basketball coaches should do WAY more sitting.

hard disagree here for competitive or middle school+

I was definitely coaching t-shirt rec leagues when the parents got pissed but I was the same on competitive teams and I didn't get any crap. IMO a competitive middle school+ basketball team shouldn't need a coach telling the players where to stand every possession. The kids either can't hear or will be too slow if they need to wait for the coach to tell them where to go.  jmo though

At least in basketball, most of the emphasis should be on teaching kids how to play rather than how to run certain plays. Most of the coaching should literally be harping on them to sprint in transition, to swing/reverse the ball, getting low on defense, closing out, etc. Teach the basics of motion offense, put in a zone buster, and a press break (you learn to press this way too). Try to run man to man as much as possible w/ ball pressure and a hand in the passing lane.

All of those skills translate to whatever high-level concepts a high school and beyond coach will run.

10/10

I was an assistant for my kid's team (11 and 12 yo's) a couple of years ago and enjoyed it a lot -- great group of kids, parents. Our head coach had tons of experience and was fun to work with but one thing that would happen was when the offense or BLOB plays weren't working, we would keep making the offense more complicated, adding new plays, etc. My impression was that the plays weren't working because the kids needed to set better screens, make hard purposeful cuts off of screens / set up their defender to get taken out by the screen, comfortably dribble the ball either right or left. Without the fundamentals, the more x's and o's are just confusing. Another thing that drove me nuts but I couldn't make headway on fixing was boxing out. A shot would go up and the kids would just wander under the bucket with their arms extended toward the sky rather than putting their body on another player to box out. Taller players can get away with this for awhile but will catch up with them eventually.

Agree that coaches owe it to their players to teach man to man defense. Zones often "work" to an extent against teams that can't shoot outside but it makes problems with boxing out and learning how to provide help in man to man defense worse.

[nicname]

A good way to teach better rebounding position is to use the idea of a “rebounding zone.” It’s basically an arc inside and along the borders of the paint. I tell them if you can get inside position along the arc, and keep the other guys out. Then we’re gonna get a lot of rebounds.”

I also like to emphasize putting your butt on the opponent and being physical with them. If they get a foul or two called for blocking out too hard, idc. I encourage it.


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[Sandstone Outcropping]

A good way to teach better rebounding position is to use the idea of a “rebounding zone.” It’s basically an arc inside and along the borders of the paint. I tell them if you can get inside position along the arc, and keep the other guys out. Then we’re gonna get a lot of rebounds.”

I also like to emphasize putting your butt on the opponent and being physical with them. If they get a foul or two called for blocking out too hard, idc. I encourage it.


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That's good. I totally failed to impart the concept that the "rebouding zone" is not directly under the bucket. Sometimes rebounding is a matter of good boxouts and sometimes it is like Charles Barkley (i think) said "just go get the effing ball..." When one of my kids played, she would never foul. We talked about introducing a bounty system for fouls -- speaking of fouls. One thing that drives me nuts is when players will reach in an slap at a ball that has obviously been secured by the other team after a rebound or turnover. Just a totally useless waste of a foul.

[Stupid Fitz]

Being an assistant coach rules in that I just sit back and or yell at them in certain situations while my buddy is the real coach. One of my absolute favorite things to watch is when he gets out the board to draw something up and maybe 2 kids are even paying attention. I normally will yell at them to pay attention, because that is sort of my role, but it makes me giggle and when they break the huddle I tell him that there is zero chance they will do the simple thing he just told them and every time he says, " I know" and we laugh about it.