Post by: steve dave on August 20, 2020, 10:34:18 PM
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 20, 2020, 11:03:05 PM
lil sd is 7 and plays baseball and is kind of good. he has competitive travel tryouts and if he gets in we have to commit just an incredible amount of time every week/all year to it and travel all over the place and he's 7 and just started 2nd grade (wtf). I played all the sports but I lived in a town of 1,400 people so fielding a full roster was the biggest challenge and we played only as many games as the white trash kids drunk dad could schedule us outside of regular school sports. this actual city stuff seems crazy. but he loves TF out of baseball suddenly (like ONLY last 4 months). the last thing I'm going to do is keep him from doing it if he wants to so we're all in no matter what. how do people deal with this? do you seriously commit a 7 year old to that amount of time/effort to one sport?
I mean if you like your kid and hanging out with him and you like baseball as well then it’s honestly probably a pretty great deal.
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Post by: michigancat on August 20, 2020, 11:27:04 PM
Does he like other sports? At 7, I'd encourage you/him to try everything in the least competitive/funnest way possible. Don't stress about being "left behind" as long as he's having fun. Just my $.02, but you'll be good with whatever.Also just one sport at a time if possible
Post by: Institutional Control on August 21, 2020, 07:36:29 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 21, 2020, 07:57:32 AM
My kid has been going to competitive cheer practices 6 days a week since 2nd grade. Overall, it's been a great experience for her but it's been a big pain in the ass for me. And it's very expensive.
my 4 year old is in "dance" and I can see this in my future. this is all just baffling to me as a cow farm raised person.
Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 08:40:59 AM
One of our daughters was asked to try out for the competitive dance troupe after a year of classes when she was like 5 and we just didn't tell her because we didn't want to pay the money or deal with competitive dance culture. We had her drop dance completely and just kept her busy with something else and she's happy.My kid has been going to competitive cheer practices 6 days a week since 2nd grade. Overall, it's been a great experience for her but it's been a big pain in the ass for me. And it's very expensive.
my 4 year old is in "dance" and I can see this in my future. this is all just baffling to me as a cow farm raised person.
We have friends with a daughter who was in the same class and is in "elite" ballet and she's like wanting to be privately home schooled for half of high school so she can do the ballet 24/7
Post by: ben ji on August 21, 2020, 08:53:48 AM
I never played travel ball but some of my friends did and they all grew to hate baseball, most quit playing by their senior year of HS.
Post by: Fedor on August 21, 2020, 10:35:16 AM
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 10:38:39 AM
I never thought there was much ROI in youth baseball. You spend more time and money on it than anything else and it is boring af.
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
There is no ROI in youth sports or kids in general
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Post by: Fedor on August 21, 2020, 11:31:45 AM
I never thought there was much ROI in youth baseball. You spend more time and money on it than anything else and it is boring af.
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
There is no ROI in youth sports or kids in general
My first sentence speaks to the never ending stream of time and money for equipment, travel, team memberships, tourney and coaching fees vs. the enjoyment of watching said sporting event. Even high school teams are pretty shitty.
I think everyone understands that having children does represent a net inflow of cash.
Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 11:44:01 AM
I never thought there was much ROI in youth baseball. You spend more time and money on it than anything else and it is boring af.
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
There is no ROI in youth sports or kids in general
My first sentence speaks to the never ending stream of time and money for equipment, travel, team memberships, tourney and coaching fees vs. the enjoyment of watching said sporting event. Even high school teams are pretty shitty.
I think everyone understands that having children does represent a net inflow of cash.
:thumbs: that's fair
I think the worst ROI when you factor in enjoyment that I know of is our ballet friend because like the only performances are the Nutcracker with the SF ballet and they have to pay like normal SF Ballet prices for them.
I went one year and she was a rat so I couldn't even tell where she was.
I've also sat through some unbearably shitty musical theater productions.
Post by: Trim on August 21, 2020, 11:59:53 AM
Post by: 8manpick on August 21, 2020, 12:00:10 PM
I never thought there was much ROI in youth baseball. You spend more time and money on it than anything else and it is boring af.
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
There is no ROI in youth sports or kids in general
My first sentence speaks to the never ending stream of time and money for equipment, travel, team memberships, tourney and coaching fees vs. the enjoyment of watching said sporting event. Even high school teams are pretty shitty.
I think everyone understands that having children does represent a net inflow of cash.
I mean, if your kids youth sports are somehow about your enjoyment rather than theirs, its pretty obvious there are going to be issues...
Post by: chum1 on August 21, 2020, 12:10:48 PM
In my experience, kids don't normally stick with something for very long. And when they do, and there's a big time commitment, being part of that little community of kids and parents can be fun. (And I'm not even a super social person and still kinda keep some distance.) There are a lot of really great people out there!
Post by: Fedor on August 21, 2020, 12:22:49 PM
It's all factored in, chief.I never thought there was much ROI in youth baseball. You spend more time and money on it than anything else and it is boring af.
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
There is no ROI in youth sports or kids in general
My first sentence speaks to the never ending stream of time and money for equipment, travel, team memberships, tourney and coaching fees vs. the enjoyment of watching said sporting event. Even high school teams are pretty shitty.
I think everyone understands that having children does represent a net inflow of cash.
I mean, if your kids youth sports are somehow about your enjoyment rather than theirs, its pretty obvious there are going to be issues...
Post by: 8manpick on August 21, 2020, 12:24:23 PM
What’s all factored in, pal?It's all factored in, chief.I never thought there was much ROI in youth baseball. You spend more time and money on it than anything else and it is boring af.
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
There is no ROI in youth sports or kids in general
My first sentence speaks to the never ending stream of time and money for equipment, travel, team memberships, tourney and coaching fees vs. the enjoyment of watching said sporting event. Even high school teams are pretty shitty.
I think everyone understands that having children does represent a net inflow of cash.
I mean, if your kids youth sports are somehow about your enjoyment rather than theirs, its pretty obvious there are going to be issues...
Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 12:27:51 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=should+kids+play+one+sport+or+multiple
yeah pretty much every kid would be better off playing multiple sports for their health, enjoyment, and overall athletic development.
I love the crap out of watching my kids. I hear other parents complain that it is boring and must acknowledge that maybe their kids are not as awesome as mine.
In my experience, kids don't normally stick with something for very long. And when they do, and there's a big time commitment, being part of that little community of kids and parents can be fun. (And I'm not even a super social person and still kinda keep some distance.) There are a lot of really great people out there!
agreed but swim meets are still pretty boring because it's mostly sitting around. But I like just reading a book for an afternoon!
Post by: Fedor on August 21, 2020, 12:44:19 PM
The enjoyment side of the equation, amigo.What’s all factored in, pal?It's all factored in, chief.I never thought there was much ROI in youth baseball. You spend more time and money on it than anything else and it is boring af.
Also not great if you have delusions of "paying for your education" The local super stud that had all the accolades you would ever want ended up at Cowley County.
There is no ROI in youth sports or kids in general
My first sentence speaks to the never ending stream of time and money for equipment, travel, team memberships, tourney and coaching fees vs. the enjoyment of watching said sporting event. Even high school teams are pretty shitty.
I think everyone understands that having children does represent a net inflow of cash.
I mean, if your kids youth sports are somehow about your enjoyment rather than theirs, its pretty obvious there are going to be issues...
I forgot to mention the games are played through the heat of the summer. If you are in a tourney you get to have a double header and get and play as soon as it is light and then again at 3 when it's 108°. Who signs up for this?
Post by: Institutional Control on August 21, 2020, 01:18:11 PM
Last year, she broke her hand, and I went through all that above to watch her stand in the back of the stage with a cast on her hand.
Post by: chum1 on August 21, 2020, 01:22:22 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on August 21, 2020, 01:24:02 PM
I don't usually sit there and watch when my kid isn't out there.
My daughter has to be at the competition 2 hours before they go on the mat. And then on the second day we have to hang around for the awards ceremony.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2020, 02:07:52 PM
I don't see any value to playing travel sports at that age. They certainly aren't getting any sustainable instructional advantage. At that age reps and building love of the sport and being around the team are the most important things they can get. My now 11 year old played rec soccer from 4-9, I coached her and she had fun playing and with her teammates. Last year we had her playing travel soccer. Professional coaches, individual instruction, uniforms even for practices, but she hated it. This very well may be different for girls than boys, but because of the pressure of always having to compete for your spot the social aspect of the team wasn't nearly as close. Also those travel teams have a high burn out rate. She is back to rec soccer this year. I just need to make sure she loves the sport enough to play when she gets to high school.
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Post by: Brock Landers on August 21, 2020, 03:32:05 PM
A married couple that I'm friends with basically vanished off the face of the planet for a few years while they took their daughter all over the midwest for travel teams. Between gymnastics/dance and softball it was year round for them. One of them always had a crappy part time job in the evenings to help pay for the expenses so forget about getting to socialize with them. Of course the daughter eventually got sick of it all and quit in her junior year. It's too bad because she was good at softball and could have easily had some scholarships.
Post by: meow meow on August 21, 2020, 03:44:29 PM
Popular topic, were olds, lol.
I don't see any value to playing travel sports at that age. They certainly aren't getting any sustainable instructional advantage. At that age reps and building love of the sport and being around the team are the most important things they can get. My now 11 year old played rec soccer from 4-9, I coached her and she had fun playing and with her teammates. Last year we had her playing travel soccer. Professional coaches, individual instruction, uniforms even for practices, but she hated it. This very well may be different for girls than boys, but because of the pressure of always having to compete for your spot the social aspect of the team wasn't nearly as close. Also those travel teams have a high burn out rate. She is back to rec soccer this year. I just need to make sure she loves the sport enough to play when she gets to high school.
agree on a lot of these points. i think it depends on what coach you get. my niece is in the same academy as my daughter and hated her coach last year, i saw who the coach was at tryouts this year and i can see why. my daughter's coach has an entirely different demeanor, and she has 3 other girls from a prior team on her team, so she's getting the fun social side, and they are already learning more than their previous parent coach was teaching them. it's definitely a hard decision, my hometown was smaller than steve dave's so wasn't something i had to deal with growing up. i think if they want to do it, and you have the $ and time, let them do it.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on August 21, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
1. why does your team have to travel? is it because your team can't find good competition locally? If you live in a reasonably populated city quit stacking your team with all the talent.
This will save everyone lots of time and money.
Don't tell me about how good lil weirdo is, if he needs more exposure in high school take him to some perfect game showcases.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2020, 04:09:58 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 04:16:39 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 21, 2020, 05:24:59 PM
Also and for a million reasons, yes to multiple sports if sports are something he’s kind of into.
Post by: Pete on August 21, 2020, 05:47:17 PM
I have two boys. One has played a ton of sports included traveling baseball his whole life and the other one played only one year of tball when he was in kindergarten. Why is that? One wanted to play all those different sports and the other absolutely did not. So here’s a hot take- if your kid wants to do competitive baseball and is good enough and you have the money and think it would be a decent time, then let him. If any of those things aren’t true then don’t.
Also and for a million reasons, yes to multiple sports if sports are something he’s kind of into.
Mostly, I agree with Rick. But, I guess I'd just add that if one kid is super into an activity that requires way more investment and time from parents than the other kid, just watch out for building future resentments in the other kid who might feel neglected despite all the while saying "i'm cool with it."
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Post by: steve dave on August 21, 2020, 08:31:25 PM
Traveling as in you have to go to Chicago or traveling as in you just play a crap ton of tournaments in Omaha and KC? My son is in an academy system in the KC metro and just played in a league in OP and we played about 5 or 6 tournaments around the Metro. My parents used to follow my brother all over the damn country playing baseball it was nuts.Tournaments in Omaha is not traveling as I live here. Traveling to KC is traveling. I think ours is mostly the Omaha/KC/Des Moin (sp) and surrounding areas but not sure.
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Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 08:44:33 PM
Traveling as in you have to go to Chicago or traveling as in you just play a crap ton of tournaments in Omaha and KC? My son is in an academy system in the KC metro and just played in a league in OP and we played about 5 or 6 tournaments around the Metro. My parents used to follow my brother all over the damn country playing baseball it was nuts.Tournaments in Omaha is not traveling as I live here. Traveling to KC is traveling. I think ours is mostly the Omaha/KC/Des Moin (sp) and surrounding areas but not sure.
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I didn't realize kids that young traveled that far for baseball. fwiw, I know you're committed if he makes the team, but I don't think you would be doing him a disservice if you told him he had to stick to the local leagues for a season or two. Especially considering he's only been into it for a few months.
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Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 08:58:57 PM
He’s played awhile now but not every single day we have to be out doing BP and me hitting him grounders and all that. He even watches every single royals game and has told me he’s an Astros fan despite everyone hating them and him having hung out with George Brett a dozen times.That sounds awesome, so why change it up? It sounds way better than hauling him to a professional coach a few times a week who will just be throwing him bp and hitting him grounders instead of you.
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Post by: steve dave on August 21, 2020, 09:01:32 PM
He’s played awhile now but not every single day we have to be out doing BP and me hitting him grounders and all that. He even watches every single royals game and has told me he’s an Astros fan despite everyone hating them and him having hung out with George Brett a dozen times.That sounds awesome, so why change it up? It sounds way better than hauling him to a professional coach a few times a week who will just be throwing him bp and hitting him grounders instead of you.
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yeah, it's awesome now. I have FOMO.
Post by: KST8FAN on August 21, 2020, 10:16:56 PM
You can hit him and a couple kids grounders and simulate game situations and he gets 25-30 reps. Or you can drive to Des Moines and maybe see him field 5 balls in a weekend.
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Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2020, 11:24:13 PM
I have two boys. One has played a ton of sports included traveling baseball his whole life and the other one played only one year of tball when he was in kindergarten. Why is that? One wanted to play all those different sports and the other absolutely did not. So here’s a hot take- if your kid wants to do competitive baseball and is good enough and you have the money and think it would be a decent time, then let him. If any of those things aren’t true then don’t.
Also and for a million reasons, yes to multiple sports if sports are something he’s kind of into.
Honest question, no judgement from me to anyone posting here but at 7 did your kid play travel sports instead of rec sports and if so, how did they make the distinction? Don't kids at that age just want to play with their friends?
Post by: nicname on August 22, 2020, 02:53:34 AM
I have two boys. One has played a ton of sports included traveling baseball his whole life and the other one played only one year of tball when he was in kindergarten. Why is that? One wanted to play all those different sports and the other absolutely did not. So here’s a hot take- if your kid wants to do competitive baseball and is good enough and you have the money and think it would be a decent time, then let him. If any of those things aren’t true then don’t.
Also and for a million reasons, yes to multiple sports if sports are something he’s kind of into.
Honest question, no judgement from me to anyone posting here but at 7 did your kid play travel sports instead of rec sports and if so, how did they make the distinction? Don't kids at that age just want to play with their friends?
The last sentence is the saddest part. Most kids don’t really play anymore. They don’t run around. They don’t play sandlot sports or pickup. They don’t learn all the social crap they need to learn and sort out on their own. Most basically sit at home and get shuffled from activity to activity. Imo kids need to be free range to an extent. The old “get out of here after lunch and don’t come back until dinner.”
Post by: Pete on August 22, 2020, 07:32:38 AM
Keep hitting him grounder and throwing BP to him SD. When I was coaching the coaches I listened to said kids under 10 should be 2;1 practice to games. Unfortunately we have become tournament crazy.
You can hit him and a couple kids grounders and simulate game situations and he gets 25-30 reps. Or you can drive to Des Moines and maybe see him field 5 balls in a weekend.
Tom
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This is smart.
Post by: ben ji on August 22, 2020, 07:37:45 AM
Des Moines weekends will always be there with money from you and drive from little SD but playing catch with dad will not
Great quote here. "Des Moines weekends will always be there" :)
Post by: nicname on August 22, 2020, 08:35:38 AM
Keep hitting him grounder and throwing BP to him SD. When I was coaching the coaches I listened to said kids under 10 should be 2;1 practice to games. Unfortunately we have become tournament crazy.
You can hit him and a couple kids grounders and simulate game situations and he gets 25-30 reps. Or you can drive to Des Moines and maybe see him field 5 balls in a weekend.
Tom
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This is smart.
Yep. This is it to a T.
Man, 7 is young, but if lil sd loves it and wants to do it, go ahead. That is unless the time and travel commitment is too much.
But imo, like Tom said, reps with dad are where the kid can really learn to love the game. Tons of low pressure reps playing catch, taking grounders, hitting soft toss and bp. Play wiffle ball, stickball whatever. Introduce it all to him and his buddies. What’s best is if you can get two or three of his buddies to join and for them to actually want to go to the field or backyard and ask you to go, not the other way around.
Nicname JR made our towns “top” 12u team this year, which was really surprising to us as he isn’t a standout athlete and only going to be 11 next summer.
Tryouts or “skills evaluation” was last weekend and we didn’t even know what it was for. We just hoped he wouldn’t embarrass himself and feel bad.
Our “competitive” team though is just regular league double headers once a week + 4-5 weekend tournaments. All the league games are in Hutch, Newton, Mac or Buhler. I don’t know where the tournaments are but I imagine they are pretty local (Salina, Wichita, Hutch, Russell, etc.).
Burnout is real though, and for every kid that intense travel sports help, imo there are 10 that it destroys their love and passion for sports and being part of a team. Imo, the most important thing is love for your teammates and passion for the games. Imo club sports are inherently self centered and focused on the player not the group. It’s can I get to the next level? How can I maximize my kid’s potential. Is this the right coach or group of kids for my kid? That’s all ass backward.
Post by: nicname on August 22, 2020, 08:40:16 AM
Post by: nicname on August 22, 2020, 08:59:31 AM
Tball thread
https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37660.0
Kids sports thread
https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37870.msg1591089#msg1591089
Kid football + bad person coach dads thread
https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=28384.0
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Post by: KST8FAN on August 22, 2020, 04:41:39 PM
I bought one of these used and farm engineered the crap out of it. Got us thru 5-6 grade for basic BP.
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Post by: nicname on August 22, 2020, 05:59:08 PM
I make little sd hit whiffle balls in the yard all the time but make him use his game bat. we also bought the big hitting net for soft toss and so he can throw at it when I'm working and can't catch him.
Those big 7x7 nets are the best.
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2020, 09:46:12 PM
I make little sd hit whiffle balls in the yard all the time but make him use his game bat. we also bought the big hitting net for soft toss and so he can throw at it when I'm working and can't catch him.
and just for clarification I never MAKE him do any of this stuff, I make him hit whiffle balls instead of actual baseballs which he was hitting before I instituted the whiffle ball only rule.
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2020, 09:46:50 PM
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Post by: Fedor on August 24, 2020, 11:57:52 AM
One final tidbit, and I am sure this is not unique to baseball. When the coaches let everyone know what you owe for the tournament, uniforms, or whatever needs paid for, you are for sure subsidizing the coaches kids share.
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Except Sunday for a double header when I was a lvl 6 hungover and it was 100 degrees and I was backstop/throw the ball back to the pitcher guy and I almost died.
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Gah.
BTW, is this coach pitch?
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Yes, we start kid pitch in fall
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How's your BP?
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Post by: IPA4Me on August 24, 2020, 04:54:35 PM
Back to travel ball discussion.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 24, 2020, 07:59:35 PM
Post by: pissclams on August 24, 2020, 09:01:37 PM
at lil sd’s age I cannot help but believe his time would be better spent with sd rather than stanky jim the travel 7 yr old kid baseball coach
Post by: chum1 on August 25, 2020, 08:45:57 AM
I wonder about maybe trying a different approach with my second kid, who just started 4th grade. Maybe I'll just be like, "Swimming or tennis? Pick one." And just force him to go to lessons and competitions for the next 4-5 years with the idea that he'll do it in high school because I'll basically force him to.
I'll probably just do the same as I did with the first kid. I do wonder about it, though.
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2020, 08:52:06 AM
kids travel sports just seem to be money making operations
yeah thinking about it the only people who would benefit from U8 travel baseball are paid travel coaches and tournament operators and suburban Des Moines hoteliers.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 25, 2020, 09:28:26 AM
My first kid did a variety of different sports and activities, none for very long or taken very seriously. When she got into jr high, she picked something new on her own and LOVES it. It's totally her thing and obviously will be throughout high school. I feel like that worked out really well.
I wonder about maybe trying a different approach with my second kid, who just started 4th grade. Maybe I'll just be like, "Swimming or tennis? Pick one." And just force him to go to lessons and competitions for the next 4-5 years with the idea that he'll do it in high school because I'll basically force him to.
I'll probably just do the same as I did with the first kid. I do wonder about it, though.
Your second kid will never play in Wimbledon with that attitude.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2020, 12:04:27 PM
I have two boys. One has played a ton of sports included traveling baseball his whole life and the other one played only one year of tball when he was in kindergarten. Why is that? One wanted to play all those different sports and the other absolutely did not. So here’s a hot take- if your kid wants to do competitive baseball and is good enough and you have the money and think it would be a decent time, then let him. If any of those things aren’t true then don’t.
Also and for a million reasons, yes to multiple sports if sports are something he’s kind of into.
Honest question, no judgement from me to anyone posting here but at 7 did your kid play travel sports instead of rec sports and if so, how did they make the distinction? Don't kids at that age just want to play with their friends?
The last sentence is the saddest part. Most kids don’t really play anymore. They don’t run around. They don’t play sandlot sports or pickup. They don’t learn all the social crap they need to learn and sort out on their own. Most basically sit at home and get shuffled from activity to activity. Imo kids need to be free range to an extent. The old “get out of here after lunch and don’t come back until dinner.”
Mir response- age seven was his first year of travel baseball. There were two travel teams in mhk for that age. Seven boys (his closest friends) in his grade school class played on one of those two teams, five on his team and two kids played on the other team. So yeah he was playing with his friends. My kid made the team because he was pretty athletic and I knew the dad putting it together. Anybody can play city league. Traveling you either have to try out or know someone. Usually both. Hilariously enough, they had a hostile take over by one of the parents at the end of the year. three kids got cut, the team changed names and old coach was out. Mine was one that got cut. He just ended up going and playing for the other team. Little kid travel baseball is hilariously serious and I was not prepared for the weirdness of it all all. About 1/2 of baseball parents are rough ridin' insane. Overall it’s been pretty great though. It allowed him to meet and play and hangout with a million kids his age from all over town and even outside of town at an early age. Every year I warn him that he’s going to have to start taking it more seriously and improve if he wants to keep playing traveling ball because his bat is on the weak side and hitting is a fairly important part of baseball. He keeps making traveling teams though and keeps wanting to play so I indulge him on it. At some point in time though his good won’t be good enough and baseball will be over. I’m guessing 10th grade but who knows. It’s mainly a social thing for him and I think there’s also some mhk street cred that comes with playing traveling ball but who knows. From a personal standpoint I am old with not a ton of close friends in mhk and almost non existent hobbies so the tournaments on a weekend don’t really bother me like it would some parents.
Nickname response- idk. I personally don’t see that. At least not with my kids or their bros in our neighborhood. Not to say that it isn’t true to a larger extent but even when my kids were young they had friends and would be outside and going from house to house and yard to yard 24/7. Reminded me exactly of my youth/
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
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Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2020, 02:14:18 PM
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
You shouldn't take our thoughts as attacks on what you did - you know your son and situation better than we ever could and I'm sure you made good choices. But I don't think it's dorky to stop and look at the dynamic SD and Lil sd have now and wonder why you would change that Who gains what? What's lost if they wait a year or two?
Also having a bunch of friends on the team is a pretty good reason to join a more competitive team. Our daughter that's into swim took a summer off, then came back and her good friends in the group got promoted up and now she never wants to take any time off of swimming at all so I totally get it
Also also I bet there's a pretty wide range in travel team commitments and sd might have been exaggerate the commitment requirement juuuuust a bit.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on August 25, 2020, 03:41:00 PM
Post by: nicname on August 25, 2020, 03:52:51 PM
@RD - yeah, I know it isn’t all neighborhoods. I just wish I saw more of it. Free, unsupervised play, whether sports or just doing whatever outside is where kids get a lot of development.
The absolute worst thing to see is coach/dad ruining the sport for their own kid by being too serious.
A big part of me feels bad that nicname jr didn’t grow up in a small town like sd, I and others did. It takes most of the bs out of it. You just play on the team (all your bros anyway) or don’t. No better feeling as a kid imo.
@MakeItRain is spot on. Pay for play imo is generally terrible for a bazillion reasons.
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2020, 04:27:22 PM
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2020, 04:33:19 PM
I ran around more when I was a kid in a small town but also outside of summer baseball there weren't really organized sports in my town until junior high. Kids where I live start organized soccer at like 4 and get overscheduled early and also parents are really worried about their kids getting kidnapped and molested at the local park.
#savethechildren
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2020, 04:35:51 PM
most people have limited time to dedicate to kids sports but not rowdy boy rick daris i guess is the point of that post
The point was that it made/makes sense for him/us. My other kid doesn’t play a single sport at all and never has. that also makes sense for him/us.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2020, 04:53:25 PM
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
You shouldn't take our thoughts as attacks on what you did - you know your son and situation better than we ever could and I'm sure you made good choices. But I don't think it's dorky to stop and look at the dynamic SD and Lil sd have now and wonder why you would change that Who gains what? What's lost if they wait a year or two?
Also having a bunch of friends on the team is a pretty good reason to join a more competitive team. Our daughter that's into swim took a summer off, then came back and her good friends in the group got promoted up and now she never wants to take any time off of swimming at all so I totally get it
Also also I bet there's a pretty wide range in travel team commitments and sd might have been exaggerate the commitment requirement juuuuust a bit.
I didn’t take anything as an attack at all. Overall it’s been a positive for him and for the most part I’ve enjoyed it as well. I don’t take it seriously either though. It’s a fun hobby for he and I, but he’ll be pretty lucky to even make the high school team based on his skill and level of give a crap.
I was just saying that it doesn’t have to be either/or. Too many people were talking like you could either continue to play catch with your kid and do stuff with them or get super serious and hand them over to some nazi travel team and never interact with them again. That’s silly. He’s also done a billion other sports and has started and stopped all of them at some point in time except baseball. Tackle football for two years then stopped. No football for two. Then flag football for one. Wrestled for two and then stopped for two and then wrestled again last year. He plays if he wants and doesn’t it he doesn’t. Not my life so I have no real opinion.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 25, 2020, 04:59:35 PM
Not to mention those little bastards bike all over this town
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
You shouldn't take our thoughts as attacks on what you did - you know your son and situation better than we ever could and I'm sure you made good choices. But I don't think it's dorky to stop and look at the dynamic SD and Lil sd have now and wonder why you would change that Who gains what? What's lost if they wait a year or two?
Also having a bunch of friends on the team is a pretty good reason to join a more competitive team. Our daughter that's into swim took a summer off, then came back and her good friends in the group got promoted up and now she never wants to take any time off of swimming at all so I totally get it
Also also I bet there's a pretty wide range in travel team commitments and sd might have been exaggerate the commitment requirement juuuuust a bit.
I didn’t take anything as an attack at all. Overall it’s been a positive for him and for the most part I’ve enjoyed it as well. I don’t take it seriously either though. It’s a fun hobby for he and I, but he’ll be pretty lucky to even make the high school team based on his skill and level of give a crap.
I was just saying that it doesn’t have to be either/or. Too many people were talking like you could either continue to play catch with your kid and do stuff with them or get super serious and hand them over to some nazi travel team and never interact with them again. That’s silly. He’s also done a billion other sports and has started and stopped all of them at some point in time except baseball. Tackle football for two years then stopped. No football for two. Then flag football for one. Wrestled for two and then stopped for two and then wrestled again last year. He plays if he wants and doesn’t it he doesn’t. Not my life so I have no real opinion.
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2020, 05:19:49 PM
I was just saying that it doesn’t have to be either/or. Too many people were talking like you could either continue to play catch with your kid and do stuff with them or get super serious and hand them over to some nazi travel team and never interact with them again. That’s silly.
of course it's not a 100% either/or but increasing the amount of time dedicated to "serious" practice will likely change the dynamic in some way and that's worth considering. also clams' stanky jim the baseball coach post was funny
Post by: nicname on August 25, 2020, 06:28:01 PM
I ran around more when I was a kid in a small town but also outside of summer baseball there weren't really organized sports in my town until junior high. Kids where I live start organized soccer at like 4 and get overscheduled early and also parents are really worried about their kids getting kidnapped and molested at the local park.
Word. It sucks.
Post by: nicname on August 25, 2020, 06:31:06 PM
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
You shouldn't take our thoughts as attacks on what you did - you know your son and situation better than we ever could and I'm sure you made good choices. But I don't think it's dorky to stop and look at the dynamic SD and Lil sd have now and wonder why you would change that Who gains what? What's lost if they wait a year or two?
Also having a bunch of friends on the team is a pretty good reason to join a more competitive team. Our daughter that's into swim took a summer off, then came back and her good friends in the group got promoted up and now she never wants to take any time off of swimming at all so I totally get it
Also also I bet there's a pretty wide range in travel team commitments and sd might have been exaggerate the commitment requirement juuuuust a bit.
I didn’t take anything as an attack at all. Overall it’s been a positive for him and for the most part I’ve enjoyed it as well. I don’t take it seriously either though. It’s a fun hobby for he and I, but he’ll be pretty lucky to even make the high school team based on his skill and level of give a crap.
I was just saying that it doesn’t have to be either/or. Too many people were talking like you could either continue to play catch with your kid and do stuff with them or get super serious and hand them over to some nazi travel team and never interact with them again. That’s silly. He’s also done a billion other sports and has started and stopped all of them at some point in time except baseball. Tackle football for two years then stopped. No football for two. Then flag football for one. Wrestled for two and then stopped for two and then wrestled again last year. He plays if he wants and doesn’t it he doesn’t. Not my life so I have no real opinion.
I think you make really good distinction between the types of “club” teams there are and the different types of experience. I hope my word diarrhea didn’t come of as either or.
Post by: nicname on August 25, 2020, 06:34:06 PM
Not to mention those little bastards bike all over this town
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
You shouldn't take our thoughts as attacks on what you did - you know your son and situation better than we ever could and I'm sure you made good choices. But I don't think it's dorky to stop and look at the dynamic SD and Lil sd have now and wonder why you would change that Who gains what? What's lost if they wait a year or two?
Also having a bunch of friends on the team is a pretty good reason to join a more competitive team. Our daughter that's into swim took a summer off, then came back and her good friends in the group got promoted up and now she never wants to take any time off of swimming at all so I totally get it
Also also I bet there's a pretty wide range in travel team commitments and sd might have been exaggerate the commitment requirement juuuuust a bit.
I didn’t take anything as an attack at all. Overall it’s been a positive for him and for the most part I’ve enjoyed it as well. I don’t take it seriously either though. It’s a fun hobby for he and I, but he’ll be pretty lucky to even make the high school team based on his skill and level of give a crap.
I was just saying that it doesn’t have to be either/or. Too many people were talking like you could either continue to play catch with your kid and do stuff with them or get super serious and hand them over to some nazi travel team and never interact with them again. That’s silly. He’s also done a billion other sports and has started and stopped all of them at some point in time except baseball. Tackle football for two years then stopped. No football for two. Then flag football for one. Wrestled for two and then stopped for two and then wrestled again last year. He plays if he wants and doesn’t it he doesn’t. Not my life so I have no real opinion.
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Post by: nicname on August 25, 2020, 06:46:18 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2020, 07:09:07 AM
Not to mention those little bastards bike all over this town
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
You shouldn't take our thoughts as attacks on what you did - you know your son and situation better than we ever could and I'm sure you made good choices. But I don't think it's dorky to stop and look at the dynamic SD and Lil sd have now and wonder why you would change that Who gains what? What's lost if they wait a year or two?
Also having a bunch of friends on the team is a pretty good reason to join a more competitive team. Our daughter that's into swim took a summer off, then came back and her good friends in the group got promoted up and now she never wants to take any time off of swimming at all so I totally get it
Also also I bet there's a pretty wide range in travel team commitments and sd might have been exaggerate the commitment requirement juuuuust a bit.
I didn’t take anything as an attack at all. Overall it’s been a positive for him and for the most part I’ve enjoyed it as well. I don’t take it seriously either though. It’s a fun hobby for he and I, but he’ll be pretty lucky to even make the high school team based on his skill and level of give a crap.
I was just saying that it doesn’t have to be either/or. Too many people were talking like you could either continue to play catch with your kid and do stuff with them or get super serious and hand them over to some nazi travel team and never interact with them again. That’s silly. He’s also done a billion other sports and has started and stopped all of them at some point in time except baseball. Tackle football for two years then stopped. No football for two. Then flag football for one. Wrestled for two and then stopped for two and then wrestled again last year. He plays if he wants and doesn’t it he doesn’t. Not my life so I have no real opinion.
Haha. I’ve probably had five different adults come up to me and tell me that they saw little daris on his bike down by the mall or something and act surprised and definitely look down on me and the fact that I would let him have free range of the town with his bros on their bikes.
Post by: nicname on August 26, 2020, 10:23:50 AM
Not to mention those little bastards bike all over this town
Also, some of you guys are dorks. Most traveling Baseball teams are just run by dads who like their kids and like baseball. Also, you don’t have to sign a contract stating that you will no longer play catch with your kid or show interest in them if they belong to a team. My kid is 13, baseball was done with over a month ago and we just went outside the other day and played catch for a good thirty minutes. Good grief on this either/or stuff.
You shouldn't take our thoughts as attacks on what you did - you know your son and situation better than we ever could and I'm sure you made good choices. But I don't think it's dorky to stop and look at the dynamic SD and Lil sd have now and wonder why you would change that Who gains what? What's lost if they wait a year or two?
Also having a bunch of friends on the team is a pretty good reason to join a more competitive team. Our daughter that's into swim took a summer off, then came back and her good friends in the group got promoted up and now she never wants to take any time off of swimming at all so I totally get it
Also also I bet there's a pretty wide range in travel team commitments and sd might have been exaggerate the commitment requirement juuuuust a bit.
I didn’t take anything as an attack at all. Overall it’s been a positive for him and for the most part I’ve enjoyed it as well. I don’t take it seriously either though. It’s a fun hobby for he and I, but he’ll be pretty lucky to even make the high school team based on his skill and level of give a crap.
I was just saying that it doesn’t have to be either/or. Too many people were talking like you could either continue to play catch with your kid and do stuff with them or get super serious and hand them over to some nazi travel team and never interact with them again. That’s silly. He’s also done a billion other sports and has started and stopped all of them at some point in time except baseball. Tackle football for two years then stopped. No football for two. Then flag football for one. Wrestled for two and then stopped for two and then wrestled again last year. He plays if he wants and doesn’t it he doesn’t. Not my life so I have no real opinion.
Haha. I’ve probably had five different adults come up to me and tell me that they saw little daris on his bike down by the mall or something and act surprised and definitely look down on me and the fact that I would let him have free range of the town with his bros on their bikes.
You’re an awesome dad, rd.
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Post by: nicname on August 26, 2020, 10:15:59 PM
Probably just a pretty average dad. That kid does ride the crap out of his bike though. Yla was not fabricating that gE content.
I’m no authority, but place great value in parents trusting kids to operate unsupervised.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2020, 10:30:36 PM
Probably just a pretty average dad. That kid does ride the crap out of his bike though. Yla was not fabricating that gE content.
I’m no authority, but place great value in parents trusting kids to operate unsupervised.
That's real different if you have young girls. It's also different if you have kids who are reckless a.f., like totally oblivious to the world. I have one of those.
Post by: michigancat on August 26, 2020, 10:46:28 PM
Post by: nicname on August 27, 2020, 07:52:42 AM
Probably just a pretty average dad. That kid does ride the crap out of his bike though. Yla was not fabricating that gE content.
I’m no authority, but place great value in parents trusting kids to operate unsupervised.
That's real different if you have young girls. It's also different if you have kids who are reckless a.f., like totally oblivious to the world. I have one of those.
For me, I don’t think it would make much difference. I could be wrong in that assumption.
I also tend to maybe oversimplify the world as a safe place for kids, because my world (pop. 2000 North Central KS town) was basically a playground for kids of any age to do anything.
It’s gotten me into trouble as an adult. For instance dropping my 7 year old son off at the pool by himself while I ran errands (I planned to go back and join him in a couple hours). The pool here didn’t allow unsupervised kids under 9 at the pool. My kid simply left, walked to his grandmas beauty salon several blocks away, and I caught endless crap — rightfully so.
Note: I carried this confidence to explore elsewhere as well, always wandering off in malls and stores, getting “lost” and freaking my relatives out as a 12 year old wandering the streets of SF.
Post by: nicname on August 27, 2020, 08:06:39 AM
We let our daughters ride bikes wherever they wanted to at 11 or 12. Kinda depended on strength and responsibility of them. They also started riding the city bus at that age at least within town which I'm kinda jealous that they have (or at least had when they could go places)
Reminds me of Jonathan Haidt telling Joe Rogan he lets his 8-year-old daughter run around Greenwich Village on her own and blowing Joe’s mind.
Similarly, when my dad was 10-11, he would go around SF, making money sharpening knives for people, then use it to buy bus or train tickets to Candlestick
then using the rest for a ticket to Giants games, which he attended alone or with his little brother.
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Post by: Kat Kid on August 27, 2020, 08:47:16 AM
There was a thread on shaggy once about a guy asking if he was a bad parent because he went to the grocery store and left his 11yr old daughter home alone (security system on of course) and the responses were about equally mixed and I was pretty shocked because I started coming home to an empty house after school in first grade.
my kids are riding the bus this year, 3rd and 1st grade.
Post by: Institutional Control on August 27, 2020, 09:25:39 AM
There was a thread on shaggy once about a guy asking if he was a bad parent because he went to the grocery store and left his 11yr old daughter home alone (security system on of course) and the responses were about equally mixed and I was pretty shocked because I started coming home to an empty house after school in first grade.
And look how you turned out.
j/k
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Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2020, 10:05:28 AM
Have you ever noticed that about 95% of the people who post pics of paddles and belts on Facebook and brag that their parents beat the crap out of them when they were kids and they turned out "just fine" are really kind of mumped up mental cases?
I think people that post about parenting on social media in general are weirdos. Unless it’s asking for advice or something like that.
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2020, 10:07:49 AM
There was a thread on shaggy once about a guy asking if he was a bad parent because he went to the grocery store and left his 11yr old daughter home alone (security system on of course) and the responses were about equally mixed and I was pretty shocked because I started coming home to an empty house after school in first grade.
And look how you turned out.
j/k
I know!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 27, 2020, 10:20:38 AM
Probably just a pretty average dad. That kid does ride the crap out of his bike though. Yla was not fabricating that gE content.Yeah.. I think it's awesome. I've had buddies tell me they spot them and they thinks its great as well.
Post by: nicname on August 27, 2020, 04:45:10 PM
Have you ever noticed that about 95% of the people who post pics of paddles and belts on Facebook and brag that their parents beat the crap out of them when they were kids and they turned out "just fine" are really kind of mumped up mental cases?
I think people that post about parenting on social media in general are weirdos. Unless it’s asking for advice or something like that.
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I’m a blah, blah, but most of all I’m a DAD and a HUSBAND who loves his family!!!!!!!!!
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What was baseball guy dad sayingYelling at our junior ump (18’ish yo girl) about calls, yelling “why this if last inning that!?”, pushing the boundaries of 6/7 yo baseball rules. I’m definitely a “have fun” dad which probably doesn’t bode well for my son’s competitive future though.
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Post by: nicname on August 29, 2020, 05:10:57 PM
That thing is a monster
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Yes, it’s a little too long 31 inches, but it’s only -10 and he will grow into the length. I thought it prob most practical to get like a 30/22 or 29/21, but who care about transitioning to -5 in 2 years anyway? I want him to have as much fun hitting now as possible.
His previous bat was the crappy USA Baseball certified, which are specifically designed to mimick Wood bats (smaller sweet spot, less pop, less forgiving). All the other kids on his team had regular usssa bats and were ripping liners off the end and knob all the time. I had no idea when I bought it.
Usssa bats average about 3.5% more exit velocity and 15-20 feet more distance on contact.
Post by: nicname on August 29, 2020, 05:18:43 PM
What was baseball guy dad sayingYelling at our junior ump (18’ish yo girl) about calls, yelling “why this if last inning that!?”, pushing the boundaries of 6/7 yo baseball rules. I’m definitely a “have fun” dad which probably doesn’t bode well for my son’s competitive future though.
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Find out what actual league/organizations there are. Little League, Pony Baseball all those kind. Might be more fun.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on August 29, 2020, 09:18:07 PM
We lost in the semi final today for spring ball(delayed season obv). Had a “baseball dad” coach on the other team. Main ump had to come in from the complex and make him stfu. Lotta that in my future I assume. Not my scene at all. May kick his entire ass when not in front of kids and families and grandparents though.
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post pictures of guys like this and lets see what interesting patterns develop, you will encounter plenty
Post by: steve dave on August 29, 2020, 09:21:44 PM
We lost in the semi final today for spring ball(delayed season obv). Had a “baseball dad” coach on the other team. Main ump had to come in from the complex and make him stfu. Lotta that in my future I assume. Not my scene at all. May kick his entire ass when not in front of kids and families and grandparents though.
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post pictures of guys like this and lets see what interesting patterns develop, you will encounter plenty
wish I would have gotten one. will next time. :thumbs:
Post by: steve dave on August 29, 2020, 09:25:04 PM
That thing is a monster
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Yes, it’s a little too long 31 inches, but it’s only -10 and he will grow into the length. I thought it prob most practical to get like a 30/22 or 29/21, but who care about transitioning to -5 in 2 years anyway? I want him to have as much fun hitting now as possible.
His previous bat was the crappy USA Baseball certified, which are specifically designed to mimick Wood bats (smaller sweet spot, less pop, less forgiving). All the other kids on his team had regular usssa bats and were ripping liners off the end and knob all the time. I had no idea when I bought it.
Usssa bats average about 3.5% more exit velocity and 15-20 feet more distance on contact.
also congrats on exactly cloning yourself.
bet he hits bombs with it.
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Holy crap, spitting image
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 30, 2020, 09:38:07 PM
That thing is a monster
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Yes, it’s a little too long 31 inches, but it’s only -10 and he will grow into the length. I thought it prob most practical to get like a 30/22 or 29/21, but who care about transitioning to -5 in 2 years anyway? I want him to have as much fun hitting now as possible.
His previous bat was the crappy USA Baseball certified, which are specifically designed to mimick Wood bats (smaller sweet spot, less pop, less forgiving). All the other kids on his team had regular usssa bats and were ripping liners off the end and knob all the time. I had no idea when I bought it.
Usssa bats average about 3.5% more exit velocity and 15-20 feet more distance on contact.
I have a barely used cat7 30inch drop 8 sitting in my garage that I paid $150 for ten months ago and would give to you for free if you come by my house in mhk to pick it up sometime. Also a very sexy barely used Rawlings Quattro 29inch drop 11.
Post by: nicname on August 30, 2020, 11:38:48 PM
That thing is a monster
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Yes, it’s a little too long 31 inches, but it’s only -10 and he will grow into the length. I thought it prob most practical to get like a 30/22 or 29/21, but who care about transitioning to -5 in 2 years anyway? I want him to have as much fun hitting now as possible.
His previous bat was the crappy USA Baseball certified, which are specifically designed to mimick Wood bats (smaller sweet spot, less pop, less forgiving). All the other kids on his team had regular usssa bats and were ripping liners off the end and knob all the time. I had no idea when I bought it.
Usssa bats average about 3.5% more exit velocity and 15-20 feet more distance on contact.
I have a barely used cat7 30inch drop 8 sitting in my garage that I paid $150 for ten months ago and would give to you for free if you come by my house in mhk to pick it up sometime. Also a very sexy barely used Rawlings Quattro 29inch drop 11.
For real, I’d make that trip. PM me your address.
Post by: nicname on August 30, 2020, 11:40:57 PM
@stevedave
:lol: :lol:
I must have the strongest recessive genes ever. :dunno:
Post by: nicname on August 30, 2020, 11:57:23 PM
We were the home team today, and heading into the bottom of the first and I look down and like every kid on the team is outside of the dugout with their own bat “timing” the pitcher on his warmup pitches. I was like wtf is this? I’ve been to a million games and never seen anything like it.
Post by: steve dave on August 31, 2020, 09:06:27 AM
If anyone else has gear like this available please let me know!That thing is a monster
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Yes, it’s a little too long 31 inches, but it’s only -10 and he will grow into the length. I thought it prob most practical to get like a 30/22 or 29/21, but who care about transitioning to -5 in 2 years anyway? I want him to have as much fun hitting now as possible.
His previous bat was the crappy USA Baseball certified, which are specifically designed to mimick Wood bats (smaller sweet spot, less pop, less forgiving). All the other kids on his team had regular usssa bats and were ripping liners off the end and knob all the time. I had no idea when I bought it.
Usssa bats average about 3.5% more exit velocity and 15-20 feet more distance on contact.
I have a barely used cat7 30inch drop 8 sitting in my garage that I paid $150 for ten months ago and would give to you for free if you come by my house in mhk to pick it up sometime. Also a very sexy barely used Rawlings Quattro 29inch drop 11.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 31, 2020, 10:04:42 AM
Also, hilarious thing at nicname jr’s (Max) first fall ball game today.serious clark?
We were the home team today, and heading into the bottom of the first and I look down and like every kid on the team is outside of the dugout with their own bat “timing” the pitcher on his warmup pitches. I was like wtf is this? I’ve been to a million games and never seen anything like it.
Post by: michigancat on August 31, 2020, 10:30:44 AM
Post by: nicname on August 31, 2020, 11:30:52 AM
Also, hilarious thing at nicname jr’s (Max) first fall ball game today.serious clark?
We were the home team today, and heading into the bottom of the first and I look down and like every kid on the team is outside of the dugout with their own bat “timing” the pitcher on his warmup pitches. I was like wtf is this? I’ve been to a million games and never seen anything like it.
Yes, Mrs nicname and I were very confused. I think it’s supposed to be a team unity/intimidation thing, but just seemed very dorky to me.
Post by: KST8FAN on August 31, 2020, 04:17:47 PM
JK... I carry this thing around like Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men. It helps me think
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Post by: KST8FAN on August 31, 2020, 05:12:06 PM
Hitting fungos, especially flies, is a delicate art. Fine to practice tho. Got myself a Mizuno elite a few months back.Our other assistant was a magician... he coached hs jv for 20 years. He could hit a ball straight up in the air at home plate for catchers at will.
Tom
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 01, 2020, 12:02:48 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 01, 2020, 11:47:51 AM
That fungo is hot, tomYeah it is. I always got the shorter fungo and was pinpoint accurate with it
Post by: steve dave on September 22, 2020, 06:51:25 PM
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Post by: nicname on September 22, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Check out this hot POA
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Oh good god damn, the Cat 9! That wood looking bat nicname jr has is just a fancy painted Cat8. Isn’t that thing like $350?? Maybe not for the lil kid version.
Literally no bat sounds cooler than a Cat.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/GQtwr-80KdA[/youtube]
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2020, 10:23:51 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 22, 2020, 10:38:32 PM
Btw, the baseball bat bro’s YouTube channel is great and super addictiveYes, lil sd will watch this 24/7/365. Also this is the best job.
the kid one doesn't cost $350. iirc I got it for like $225. Still expensive but I'm coaching the team again next year and all the kids can swing it (assuming virus free in spring).
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Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2020, 04:12:17 PM
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Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2020, 05:38:36 PM
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Post by: nicname on September 23, 2020, 06:31:03 PM
@stevedave check out YouTube channel Ultimate baseball training. The vids are great and easy for kids to digest. The coaches are great as well.
[youtube] https://youtu.be/WdbqY-glNxA[/youtube]
[youtube] https://youtu.be/7xgsFdgbaMI[/youtube]
Post by: nicname on September 23, 2020, 11:53:33 PM
They have an app too
Post by: MakeItRain on September 25, 2020, 12:14:53 AM
Check out this hot POA
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Oh good god damn, the Cat 9! That wood looking bat nicname jr has is just a fancy painted Cat8. Isn’t that thing like $350?? Maybe not for the lil kid version.
Literally no bat sounds cooler than a Cat.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/GQtwr-80KdA[/youtube]
Why is that [redacted] screaming? Jesus Christ.
Post by: steve dave on October 07, 2020, 12:55:43 PM
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 07, 2020, 02:22:53 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 07, 2020, 10:49:07 PM
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Post by: steve dave on October 07, 2020, 10:54:09 PM
holy crap.. also I think you could fit like 4 racquetballs in one of those just fyilmao
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Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 11:02:35 PM
:surprised:
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Looks incred. Bat bros don’t love the performance tho.
Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
nicname, your kid currently plays 1b for the Yankees. FYI
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https://youtu.be/viQcNyegAuY
This dood? I can see the resemblance. Lol. Would take!
Post by: steve dave on October 07, 2020, 11:16:15 PM
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Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 11:20:02 PM
Luke Voit. Was watching them with lil sd today.
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Lol, Lil nicname will have to beef up to match that dude. I’ll check back in a couple years when puberty hits.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2020, 08:42:43 PM
:surprised:
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:love: :love: :love: I think every team I played on had that bat
Post by: 8manpick on October 08, 2020, 10:16:03 PM
nicname, your kid currently plays 1b for the Yankees. FYILuke Voit is definitely a very tall and jacked Nicname doppelgänger
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Post by: steve dave on October 09, 2020, 07:43:04 AM
nicname, your kid currently plays 1b for the Yankees. FYILuke Voit is definitely a very tall and jacked Nicname doppelgänger
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YES!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 09, 2020, 09:00:44 AM
:surprised:
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:love: :love: :love: I think every team I played on had that bat
I owned that bat. My parents might still have it in their garage.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2020, 08:37:21 PM
Post by: SleepFighter on July 09, 2021, 02:10:35 PM
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2021, 02:35:46 PM
My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...Gah!
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
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Post by: michigancat on July 09, 2021, 02:42:32 PM
Post by: SleepFighter on July 09, 2021, 02:46:39 PM
My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...Gah!
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
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This is on top of the fact that there is only one other team in his league from our city (Austin). So even the rest of the year half the games are in Dallas/Houston/San Antonio + 1 trip to Oklahoma.
Post by: SleepFighter on July 09, 2021, 02:47:50 PM
I'm taking a 14 year old to a water polo tournament in Orange County in a few weeks! And the team kinda SUCKS!!!
How big is the youth water polo scene?
Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2021, 02:54:00 PM
That is wild. I bet your kid whips ass at baseball.My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...Gah!
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
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This is on top of the fact that there is only one other team in his league from our city (Austin). So even the rest of the year half the games are in Dallas/Houston/San Antonio + 1 trip to Oklahoma.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 09, 2021, 03:07:36 PM
My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
Is that at the complex outside of Cary?
Post by: SleepFighter on July 09, 2021, 03:11:19 PM
That is wild. I bet your kid whips ass at baseball.My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...Gah!
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
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This is on top of the fact that there is only one other team in his league from our city (Austin). So even the rest of the year half the games are in Dallas/Houston/San Antonio + 1 trip to Oklahoma.
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Oops. I guess I didn't post the sport.
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Post by: SleepFighter on July 09, 2021, 03:13:50 PM
My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
Is that at the complex outside of Cary?
North of Greensboro.
Post by: michigancat on July 09, 2021, 03:22:17 PM
I'm taking a 14 year old to a water polo tournament in Orange County in a few weeks! And the team kinda SUCKS!!!
How big is the youth water polo scene?
It is by far more popular in California than anywhere else but it isn't a crazy big scene even here and it was really hurt by pool access during covid. There were ~16 girls' teams in the Junior Olympic Zone qualifiers which basically covered the Bay Area. Boys probably had double the number of teams because girls started playing relatively recently.
It's a really cool sport, I'm going to watch all the women's games in the Olympics. It's rough, there's room for creativity with the ball, and they have a shot clock even for little kids so it's always back and forth. I could sit and watch competitive games all afternoon.
Post by: SleepFighter on July 09, 2021, 03:30:17 PM
I'm taking a 14 year old to a water polo tournament in Orange County in a few weeks! And the team kinda SUCKS!!!
How big is the youth water polo scene?
It is by far more popular in California than anywhere else but it isn't a crazy big scene even here and it was really hurt by pool access during covid. There were ~16 girls' teams in the Junior Olympic Zone qualifiers which basically covered the Bay Area. Boys probably had double the number of teams because girls started playing relatively recently.
It's a really cool sport, I'm going to watch all the women's games in the Olympics. It's rough, there's room for creativity with the ball, and they have a shot clock even for little kids so it's always back and forth. I could sit and watch competitive games all afternoon.
It seems like a really tough sport to play. I mean, if you're trying to rest a little it's going to be pretty obvious that suddenly you're doing a back float.
Post by: Spracne on July 09, 2021, 03:35:59 PM
That is wild. I bet your kid whips ass at baseball.My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...Gah!
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
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This is on top of the fact that there is only one other team in his league from our city (Austin). So even the rest of the year half the games are in Dallas/Houston/San Antonio + 1 trip to Oklahoma.
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Oops. I guess I didn't post the sport.
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And in this photo we can see the moment where little Jimmy received his concussion.
Post by: SleepFighter on July 09, 2021, 03:38:31 PM
Post by: mocat on July 09, 2021, 04:02:28 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on July 09, 2021, 05:43:25 PM
That is wild. I bet your kid whips ass at baseball.My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...Gah!
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
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This is on top of the fact that there is only one other team in his league from our city (Austin). So even the rest of the year half the games are in Dallas/Houston/San Antonio + 1 trip to Oklahoma.
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Oops. I guess I didn't post the sport.
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And in this photo we can see the moment where little Jimmy received his concussion.
lol
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2021, 07:28:36 PM
Ha, my bad for assuming. But I bet he whips ass at soccer.That is wild. I bet your kid whips ass at baseball.My oldest kid is 15, which isn't exactly little anymore, but anyway...Gah!
He's been in North Carolina this week for the Boys ECNL National "Champions League", where 64 teams go and play in 16 round robin groups. His team won their group, and then a knock-out game today. The prize for that is he is going to St. Louis for an 8 team knock-out style tournament in two weeks.
Then he gets a week off before training for the next season starts.
This sort of seems like a lot...
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This is on top of the fact that there is only one other team in his league from our city (Austin). So even the rest of the year half the games are in Dallas/Houston/San Antonio + 1 trip to Oklahoma.
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Oops. I guess I didn't post the sport.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 17, 2021, 01:10:53 PM
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Post by: Skipper44 on July 17, 2021, 02:24:38 PM
Post by: Justwin on July 17, 2021, 02:39:31 PM
It sucks to see the youth sports industrial complex price so many kids out.
What's your alternative?
Post by: pissclams on July 17, 2021, 03:24:31 PM
lil sd just turned 8 and did tryouts for a new select team and made it and he starts practicing 2-3 days a week in late August going straight through winter at the indoor facility for the 2022 season. This is probably a normal thing for people who didn’t grow up in Meade Kansas but it seems pretty wild to me that they do this crap. It’s not even majors. Like, I guess you are just a baseball kid now bud. Hope you don’t burn out and do heavy drugs I guess.congratulations to lil’ sd!!
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Post by: nicname on July 17, 2021, 05:06:58 PM
Post by: steve dave on July 17, 2021, 05:11:32 PM
Lil sd gonna rock the baseball mullet?I mean, he he might
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 17, 2021, 05:24:06 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on July 17, 2021, 08:03:53 PM
It sucks to see the youth sports industrial complex price so many kids out.
What's your alternative?
Well we can do one of two things that work in literally every single country in the world.
We can have the NGBs completely run the sports all the way down to the grassroots level. We are partially there anyway, I have youth sports certifications from US Soccer, USA Basketball, and USA Archery. The NGBs absolutely have influence over the sports and the ability to bring costs way down but they are profiting as well and in this country we've valued greed over equity.
Another thing that's much easier to do, again the NGBs could completely control, is to localize these sports. There is literally nothing to be gained by youth athletes playing in national or even regional events. It does nothing to develop the young athletes, it's just a cash grab for organizers and a glory grab for adults. We put that carrot in front of the kids and of course they want it but if it wasn't there the kids wouldn't be effected in any way. The cost of those national and regional competitions are supplemented through all levels and ages of the youth teams that participate in them. You can say the same thing for the uniforms and the coaches salaries, all of it completely unnecessary.
One other fix is that the professional teams really need to be running these youth sports throughout the country. We let these teams play in taxpayer funded facilities, built on land that we give the owners tax breaks on, then we have ridiculous tax code that owners use loopholes in to pay microscopic tax rates. Again pro sports teams run youth academies in every other country and those teams and owners aren't playing in taxpayer funded facilities.
It's not that we can't cut the profits out of youth sports, they've only existed for 10-20 years, it's just that, like everything else mumped up in this country tied to money, we simply don't want to.
Post by: MakeItRain on July 17, 2021, 08:07:14 PM
When you were a kid did you ever for a minute think that youth coaches would be getting paid a living wage except for your HS football coach who only actually got paid to be a gym teacher and crush brews at Bullwinkles? Well they do now!
I was an unpaid assistant for a paid head coach for soccer this past year. The head coach literally didn't know the rules for offside, I had to explain it to him more than once. This is the second different club we paid for that had paid coaches and in both cases they were nothing more than a parent who played a sport in high school but the parent was connected to the board.
Post by: SleepFighter on July 19, 2021, 05:28:47 PM
lil sd just turned 8 and did tryouts for a new select team and made it and he starts practicing 2-3 days a week in late August going straight through winter at the indoor facility for the 2022 season. This is probably a normal thing for people who didn’t grow up in Meade Kansas but it seems pretty wild to me that they do this crap. It’s not even majors. Like, I guess you are just a baseball kid now bud. Hope you don’t burn out and do heavy drugs I guess.
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That's starting a little younger than what my kids have done with soccer, but not by a lot. As a parent you become the proverbial frog in a pot of hot water. Things get ratcheted up a little at a time until you find yourself doing things that you never would have imagined that you were willing to sign up for just a few years later.
Having said that, I've seen kids have a lot of fun doing this kind of stuff. Good luck to little SD.
Post by: SleepFighter on July 19, 2021, 05:32:14 PM
USSoccer is a complete mess. Saying that we should let them control everything is a hilariously bad idea.
The incentives for a professional club lead them to try and find and develop the small number of kids that may turn into a professional athlete some day. If you think that the pressure to specialize is high now, wait until you see what happens when a club is truly in charge.
Post by: Cire on July 19, 2021, 06:26:57 PM
Maybe even more so but it seems like they majority of competitive sports chuds fall into the MAGA demo.
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Post by: MakeItRain on July 20, 2021, 01:58:41 AM
I've seen what USSoccer was trying to do at the youth level from the inside since lil' SF played in the US Development Academy for a couple of years before it dissolved. And I know a bunch of kids that are playing for the Austin FC academy team. Neither of those solutions is any solution at all for the vast majority of kids.
USSoccer is a complete mess. Saying that we should let them control everything is a hilariously bad idea.
The incentives for a professional club lead them to try and find and develop the small number of kids that may turn into a professional athlete some day. If you think that the pressure to specialize is high now, wait until you see what happens when a club is truly in charge.
Yeah, it was never designed with the intent that US Soccer would completely run any level of youth soccer, including the development academies, the supports were never built in place. It's why it was so easy for them to cede the development academies to MLS.
Yes, in the cases where the mls clubs are running youth soccer development the pressure to specialize is absolutely there, but that's a conflation of the issues. We were discussing how to control the cost of youth soccer.
Post by: MakeItRain on July 20, 2021, 02:08:15 AM
If you don't want to spend a ton of money on a sport, then don't. Almost every single sport is played competitively in middle school anyway. You spending $2000 a season on your 11 year old to compete with some suburban club team doesn't get nearly the returns you think it would. Getting reps for the kid and making sure they keep the love for the sport until they get to high school when their bodies develop is far more important than making sure they are playing in some regional tournament in a mega complex somewhere. If your kid is good as a high school athlete, they will be found. If they are good enough for some club to drool over and the kid wants to play, someone will foot that bill. If the kid isn't good enough, they aren't and that's fine too.
Yeah, the pay to play model sucks because it's just a grift at the end of the day, but the bottom line is that kids can play sports from ages 2-18 and never ever enter the play to play model and be completely fine.
Post by: chum1 on July 20, 2021, 07:47:59 AM
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1417279302417125379
Post by: chum1 on July 20, 2021, 07:52:29 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on July 20, 2021, 11:40:07 AM
Heh
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1417279302417125379
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The high price of playing on competitive squads is the chief criticism of youth soccer in the U.S., with costs including club and tournament fees and increasingly distant travel. The Mewises spent between $10,000-$12,000 a year on the girls’ soccer starting in their mid-teens.
To afford that investment, Bob supplemented the income from his full-time work for a firm that estimated costs for construction projects. He took on weekend jobs building, roofing or framing houses, joining his athletic daughters in soreness and fatigue.
It's completely unnecessary. The Gold Cup match on Sunday began between USA and Canada on Sunday had something like 13 of the 22 players on the field who played college soccer. America's hottest young player, Daryl Dike didn't play in the development academy, he just played at his local club and his big brother and sister are professional soccer players.
I love Astead Wesley, it would be great if people told the story of the hundreds of successful American athletes who's parents didn't burn tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars chasing glory.
If you're good you'll be found.
Post by: Cire on July 20, 2021, 12:11:37 PM
But gen x parents think they can pay their way to an edge and the clubs let them believe it across all sports. I have friends that have middle schoolers who aren’t playing middle school sports for their schools because the teams aren’t good/as good and they just keep playing club.
My wife coaches high school bball and they struggle to get 3 full high school teams. Softball and basketball are dying for girls. Volleyball soccer are doing fine
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Post by: MakeItRain on July 20, 2021, 03:13:12 PM
I agree with everything you say.
But gen x parents think they can pay their way to an edge and the clubs let them believe it across all sports. I have friends that have middle schoolers who aren’t playing middle school sports for their schools because the teams aren’t good/as good and they just keep playing club.
My wife coaches high school bball and they struggle to get 3 full high school teams. Softball and basketball are dying for girls. Volleyball soccer are doing fine
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Yeah, we're doing the complete opposite. Now that my daughter is in middle school club sports are over. Cross Country in the fall, basketball in the winter, soccer in the spring. I'm so happy to be liberated from club sports, until the 2 year old gets old enough anyway.
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Post by: nicname on September 20, 2021, 10:28:17 PM
I'm 95% to a decision.
Post by: bucket on September 20, 2021, 10:36:50 PM
Would you skip your kid's 6th grad fball game (I've never missed a single game in like a gazillion games, btw. well, maybe like some indoor soccer game or something years ago) to watch the Cats play OU in two weeks, especially if we're still undefeated?
I'm 95% to a decision.
I'd bring a portable radio.
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2021, 05:12:40 AM
Would you skip your kid's 6th grad fball game (I've never missed a single game in like a gazillion games, btw. well, maybe like some indoor soccer game or something years ago) to watch the Cats play OU in two weeks, especially if we're still undefeated?
I'm 95% to a decision.
Absolutely not, unless there is some reason for going beyond the Cats, like you're going with friends you haven't seen in years or the kid got you tickets as a gift or something.
I mean, the Cats are gonna get smoked. Plus I'm guessing you own a phone, stream it during halftime or a series he isn't on the field.
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2021, 05:16:23 AM
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Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2021, 06:57:11 AM
I would not miss my kids game but I wouldn’t judge you if you did (and I’m not saying michigancat is, because he’s not). You are a good and supportive father. Doing something that you love that’s important to you is good and everything requires trade offs.
Absolutely
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 21, 2021, 08:04:55 AM
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Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2021, 08:09:55 AM
Sell the ticket(unless going with someone) turn your phone off all day, tell those around if cats fans not to tell you the score, record the game, buy fat steaks for the fam, grill and watch the game together.
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Pretty good advice here. Can suck if you need to keep your phone on and people start texting during an upset but you can manage
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2021, 08:54:12 AM
Would you skip your kid's 6th grad fball game (I've never missed a single game in like a gazillion games, btw. well, maybe like some indoor soccer game or something years ago) to watch the Cats play OU in two weeks, especially if we're still undefeated?
I'm 95% to a decision.
I watched the '19 Cats upset of OU on my phone from the sidelines of a 10U soccer tournament.
The good news for you is this is the last year you have to worry about Saturday football, I'm assuming he'll play in school next year.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2021, 08:58:50 AM
Sell the ticket(unless going with someone) turn your phone off all day, tell those around if cats fans not to tell you the score, record the game, buy fat steaks for the fam, grill and watch the game together.
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And I was coaching U11 last year and this is how I watched the OU game. I thought I saw a score on the bottom line after I turned the tv on but before I got the DVR fired up, so it was an extra special surprise when we didn't blow the lead that I thought we did.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2021, 09:08:50 AM
crap is frustrating.
Post by: nicname on September 21, 2021, 09:51:48 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on September 21, 2021, 08:34:02 PM
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Post by: Institutional Control on September 21, 2021, 09:15:57 PM
I’m sorry man, that sounds stressful as hell. I just had one of my first talks with my son because one of his friends is a complete idiot so can only imagine the many tougher conversations to come. I think one thing I have learned in my limited experience is just leveling with your daughter and sharing your feelings and that she is so important to you that you are scared for her safety and want to protect her. Whatever you decide I think telling her that would be good.Thanks, bud. That’s good advice.
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Post by: Institutional Control on September 21, 2021, 09:25:13 PM
It sounds like the coaches are being extremely reckless and irresponsible and putting kids in danger but I don't know the sport. Are there other, maybe less intense club options?Because of my daughters back injury she wasn’t at this practice so we don’t know exactly how it happened and the coaches have not really offered up much information. I feel that at the very least they need to let everyone know what happened and what they’re going to do to prevent something like this from happening again. We’ll see.
There are definitely lower risk options. She could drop down to a lower level team. It would be hard after 10’years of going to the gym 5-6 days week to improve your skills to move up to just move down a couple of levels. I’m pretty sure she would opt for the free time she would gain w/o practices over leveling down.
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2021, 10:14:34 PM
It sounds like the coaches are being extremely reckless and irresponsible and putting kids in danger but I don't know the sport. Are there other, maybe less intense club options?
It isn't the coaches, it's the sport
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For high school girls and college women, cheerleading is far more dangerous than any other sport, according to a new report that adds several previously unreported cases of serious injuries to a growing list.
High school cheerleading accounted for 65.1 percent of all catastrophic sports injuries among high school females over the past 25 years, according to an annual report released Monday by the National Center for Catastrophic Sports Injury Research.
The new estimate is up from 55 percent in last year's study. The researches say the true number of cheerleading injuries appears to be higher than they had previously thought. And these are not ankle sprains. The report counts fatal, disabling and serious injuries.
The statistics are equally grim in college, where cheerleading accounted for 66.7 percent of all female sports catastrophic injuries, compared to the past estimate of 59.4 percent.
That being said IC, I have a daughter just starting cheer, non competitive at this point. We're aware of the dangers and we're going to let her do it as much as she wants. She's a dancer so I hope she ditches cheer for dance but she'll make that choice. She's very tall and muscular so she won't be doing aerials, so that's helpful too.
If she's good at it and it's a spark for her, don't take it away, there's risk in everything and she won't have a lifetime of what ifs. If it becomes too dangerous for her to handle, she'll make the decision herself.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 21, 2021, 10:52:13 PM
Would you skip your kid's 6th grad fball game (I've never missed a single game in like a gazillion games, btw. well, maybe like some indoor soccer game or something years ago) to watch the Cats play OU in two weeks, especially if we're still undefeated?
I'm 95% to a decision.
2011 CF3 would go to the Cats game. 2021 CF3 would go to the 6th grade fball game. I have had to miss kid stuff (soccer games, piano stuff etc) for work a few times, but that's life. I did skip a lil CF3 basketball game a few years ago to attend a Chiefs playoff game. It wasn't a big deal to lil CF3 but I probably would choose to skip the Chiefs if it happens again.
Anytime I have missed a game or an event, I ALWAYS do a special time with Dad afterwards. A dinner, an arcade, a trip to the zoo, etc. So if you do go to the Cats game, give nicname jr plenty of extra time afterwards.
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 05:26:50 AM
I mean, there could be a bunch of irresponsible coaches.It sounds like the coaches are being extremely reckless and irresponsible and putting kids in danger but I don't know the sport. Are there other, maybe less intense club options?
It isn't the coaches, it's the sportQuoteFor high school girls and college women, cheerleading is far more dangerous than any other sport, according to a new report that adds several previously unreported cases of serious injuries to a growing list.
High school cheerleading accounted for 65.1 percent of all catastrophic sports injuries among high school females over the past 25 years, according to an annual report released Monday by the National Center for Catastrophic Sports Injury Research.
The new estimate is up from 55 percent in last year's study. The researches say the true number of cheerleading injuries appears to be higher than they had previously thought. And these are not ankle sprains. The report counts fatal, disabling and serious injuries.
The statistics are equally grim in college, where cheerleading accounted for 66.7 percent of all female sports catastrophic injuries, compared to the past estimate of 59.4 percent.
That being said IC, I have a daughter just starting cheer, non competitive at this point. We're aware of the dangers and we're going to let her do it as much as she wants. She's a dancer so I hope she ditches cheer for dance but she'll make that choice. She's very tall and muscular so she won't be doing aerials, so that's helpful too.
If she's good at it and it's a spark for her, don't take it away, there's risk in everything and she won't have a lifetime of what ifs. If it becomes too dangerous for her to handle, she'll make the decision herself.
Anecdotally, we have a good friend who's been in high-level ballet for several years. The family poured a ton of time and money into training or whatever at the San Francisco ballet. She/they thought she was on track to getting picked up by a professional ballet in high school or something, it was basically this kid's life for the last 5 or so years.
This year, San Francisco didn't invite her back, so she ended up "stepping down" to Berkeley Ballet, and she's absolutely loving it. San Francisco was like a job, but Berkeley is fun for her - she's actually showing her parents steps she learned which she never did at SF and is just really enjoying ut.
Obviously you (IC) know your daughter's situation best, but sometimes a change of scenery isn't necessarily a bad thing, even if it's less competitive.
Post by: SleepFighter on September 22, 2021, 10:16:21 AM
Our younger two were okay with everything, and sort of relished the ridiculous amount of time that they now had to play video games (which drove me crazy, a year on after the vaccine we have them back in activities again). The oldest one, without soccer, was absolutely despondent. After about a month and a half after consulting with our pediatrician we decided to let him go back to playing. The change in his demeanor was immediate and striking. We could actually be around him again.
All that is to say is that there are no obviously correct answers. There are risks and costs to all of this, both in doing some of these things, but in not doing them as well.
Post by: SleepFighter on September 22, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
While we're discussing this, it's amazing how little middle school administrators care about middle school sports. Club sports definitely go harder. My daughter has had back to back cross country meets cancelled on total bullshit. Last Thursday she couldn't run because their bus was cancelled. They didn't give parents the option of taking our own kids to the meet. Yesterday the meet was cancelled by the host school because of a thunderstorm watch. Not thunder, not rain, not a thunderstorm warning, just a watch. It ended up raining for 10 minutes, an hour and a half before the meet was scheduled to start. The Ames coaches didn't practice after the cancellation.
crap is frustrating.
Unsurprisingly, middle school football here in Texas gets taken pretty seriously. Maybe volleyball too (I don't have any girls, so I'm not sure). Middle school basketball was an okay, but not great experience for my kid. And middle school soccer is an absolute utter complete joke in our district.
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2021, 10:41:10 AM
Would you skip your kid's 6th grad fball game (I've never missed a single game in like a gazillion games, btw. well, maybe like some indoor soccer game or something years ago) to watch the Cats play OU in two weeks, especially if we're still undefeated?
I'm 95% to a decision.
2011 CF3 would go to the Cats game. 2021 CF3 would go to the 6th grade fball game. I have had to miss kid stuff (soccer games, piano stuff etc) for work a few times, but that's life. I did skip a lil CF3 basketball game a few years ago to attend a Chiefs playoff game. It wasn't a big deal to lil CF3 but I probably would choose to skip the Chiefs if it happens again.
Anytime I have missed a game or an event, I ALWAYS do a special time with Dad afterwards. A dinner, an arcade, a trip to the zoo, etc. So if you do go to the Cats game, give nicname jr plenty of extra time afterwards.
Good suggestion. Ty
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2021, 11:18:43 AM
Would you skip your kid's 6th grad fball game (I've never missed a single game in like a gazillion games, btw. well, maybe like some indoor soccer game or something years ago) to watch the Cats play OU in two weeks, especially if we're still undefeated?
I'm 95% to a decision.
2011 CF3 would go to the Cats game. 2021 CF3 would go to the 6th grade fball game. I have had to miss kid stuff (soccer games, piano stuff etc) for work a few times, but that's life. I did skip a lil CF3 basketball game a few years ago to attend a Chiefs playoff game. It wasn't a big deal to lil CF3 but I probably would choose to skip the Chiefs if it happens again.
Anytime I have missed a game or an event, I ALWAYS do a special time with Dad afterwards. A dinner, an arcade, a trip to the zoo, etc. So if you do go to the Cats game, give nicname jr plenty of extra time afterwards.
Good suggestion. Ty
Go to the kid's game, man. You're going spend the whole time thinking about how he's doing then more time convincing yourself you did the right thing by not going to his game. If he did something awesome and you missed it you'll hate that too. I missed one of my daughter's soccer games ever, it was for work, she got her first hat trick.
Go to his game, watch the cats game with him after, come up to Manhattan to farmageddon and mock flood aggie fans.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2021, 11:26:47 AM
I mean, there could be a bunch of irresponsible coaches.It sounds like the coaches are being extremely reckless and irresponsible and putting kids in danger but I don't know the sport. Are there other, maybe less intense club options?
It isn't the coaches, it's the sportQuoteFor high school girls and college women, cheerleading is far more dangerous than any other sport, according to a new report that adds several previously unreported cases of serious injuries to a growing list.
High school cheerleading accounted for 65.1 percent of all catastrophic sports injuries among high school females over the past 25 years, according to an annual report released Monday by the National Center for Catastrophic Sports Injury Research.
The new estimate is up from 55 percent in last year's study. The researches say the true number of cheerleading injuries appears to be higher than they had previously thought. And these are not ankle sprains. The report counts fatal, disabling and serious injuries.
The statistics are equally grim in college, where cheerleading accounted for 66.7 percent of all female sports catastrophic injuries, compared to the past estimate of 59.4 percent.
That being said IC, I have a daughter just starting cheer, non competitive at this point. We're aware of the dangers and we're going to let her do it as much as she wants. She's a dancer so I hope she ditches cheer for dance but she'll make that choice. She's very tall and muscular so she won't be doing aerials, so that's helpful too.
If she's good at it and it's a spark for her, don't take it away, there's risk in everything and she won't have a lifetime of what ifs. If it becomes too dangerous for her to handle, she'll make the decision herself.
Anecdotally, we have a good friend who's been in high-level ballet for several years. The family poured a ton of time and money into training or whatever at the San Francisco ballet. She/they thought she was on track to getting picked up by a professional ballet in high school or something, it was basically this kid's life for the last 5 or so years.
This year, San Francisco didn't invite her back, so she ended up "stepping down" to Berkeley Ballet, and she's absolutely loving it. San Francisco was like a job, but Berkeley is fun for her - she's actually showing her parents steps she learned which she never did at SF and is just really enjoying ut.
Obviously you (IC) know your daughter's situation best, but sometimes a change of scenery isn't necessarily a bad thing, even if it's less competitive.
I know you aren't meaning to do so but chalking up cheer injuries to reckless coaching is very reductive. We don't do that with any sport, why are we doing it here? Of course there are going to be some knuckleheads, like with anything else, but cheer is a very dangerous sport. I mean we're talking about quickly stacking and unstacking bodies and throwing and catching humans.
That being said there are very real and deep seeded issues with cheers governing body, they have the ability to make the sport safer on and off the mat but they refuse to do so.
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 11:40:08 AM
But I definitely don't know cheer and will defer to people who know more.
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2021, 11:56:15 AM
Anyway, back to the more interesting discussion surrounding competitive cheer. <——— not gEing
Post by: SleepFighter on September 22, 2021, 12:05:42 PM
I'm pretty sure I've criticized youth football coaching as a factor in concussions on this blog, and there's definitely been talk of baseball coaches ruining the throwing arms of kids from overuse.
But I definitely don't know cheer and will defer to people who know more.
It seems obvious to me that cheer can be dangerous relative to other sports, and that poor coaching can make injuries more likely in an already hazardous activity.
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 12:47:36 PM
I'm pretty sure I've criticized youth football coaching as a factor in concussions on this blog, and there's definitely been talk of baseball coaches ruining the throwing arms of kids from overuse.
But I definitely don't know cheer and will defer to people who know more.
It seems obvious to me that cheer can be dangerous relative to other sports, and that poor coaching can make injuries more likely in an already hazardous activity.
Yes both can absolutely be true
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2021, 02:34:41 PM
I'm pretty sure I've criticized youth football coaching as a factor in concussions on this blog, and there's definitely been talk of baseball coaches ruining the throwing arms of kids from overuse.
But I definitely don't know cheer and will defer to people who know more.
It seems obvious to me that cheer can be dangerous relative to other sports, and that poor coaching can make injuries more likely in an already hazardous activity.
Yes both can absolutely be true
100% agree, we just don't know from IC's story if the injuries are due to coaching negligence. If y'all didn't watch the video he posted, competitive cheer is much different than what you see on sidelines or courtside of High School X in 99% of schools across the country.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2021, 02:42:42 PM
@MakeItRain I’m going to nicnamejr’s game, which was the way I was leaning the whole time. Actually refreshing to see gE be basically unanimous here. I didn’t expect it. And wouldn’t expect it would be the same on most “fan” boards.
Anyway, back to the more interesting discussion surrounding competitive cheer. <——— not gEing
The best thing about this board is the absence of performative masculinity, the stereotypical masculinity cosplay competition that permeates the internet. Most people in their position would go and watch their kids, it's just that other places, the people feel like they have to lie about doing it. Supporting the joy of your progeny isn't a weakness, I'm glad we don't have to act like it here.
See you at Farmageddon in 2.5 weeks.
Post by: KST8FAN on September 23, 2021, 05:34:47 PM
#2 sent that to me this morning. Guilty as charged I guess.
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Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2021, 06:52:50 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 23, 2021, 07:32:46 PM
Post by: nicname on September 23, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMRpBgDDm/
#2 sent that to me this morning. Guilty as charged I guess.
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Lmao.
x 1000
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2022, 10:21:35 AM
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2022, 10:28:43 AM
One final tidbit, and I am sure this is not unique to baseball. When the coaches let everyone know what you owe for the tournament, uniforms, or whatever needs paid for, you are for sure subsidizing the coaches kids share.
was revisiting this thread and want to report that this is for sure not the case with our program
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2022, 10:29:39 AM
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Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2022, 11:31:34 AM
Cat9 Two Piece Composite 28/18 in special American Flag livery because in THIS house we salute old glory and we tear up when Lee Greenwood hits his crescendo.
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Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2022, 11:37:04 AM
:excited:
Post by: SleepFighter on January 07, 2022, 11:38:46 AM
I would therefore suggest having a heavy willing to use your new bat on kneecaps if required.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2022, 11:42:29 AM
On top of being assistant baseball coach I'm also team accountant and social media coordinator for lil sd's baseball team. because apparently I can't quit volunteering for crap. do any of you accountant or team accountant cats have an excel file example of a good format for a team budget? will have to track personal and corporate donations and fees and stuff for 12 kids/parents and facility fees, touney fees, gear, cages, all that stuff. I'm sure I can put something together very easily but I'm not an accountant and thought I'd ask first. TY.
Can y'all not spring for quickbooks? It's super easy to use and does all of that without you having to finagle with excel. If you don't or can't do that I'm sure you can find a nerd that can make a functional spreadsheet for you.
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2022, 11:44:45 AM
On top of being assistant baseball coach I'm also team accountant and social media coordinator for lil sd's baseball team. because apparently I can't quit volunteering for crap. do any of you accountant or team accountant cats have an excel file example of a good format for a team budget? will have to track personal and corporate donations and fees and stuff for 12 kids/parents and facility fees, touney fees, gear, cages, all that stuff. I'm sure I can put something together very easily but I'm not an accountant and thought I'd ask first. TY.
Can y'all not spring for quickbooks? It's super easy to use and does all of that without you having to finagle with excel. If you don't or can't do that I'm sure you can find a nerd that can make a functional spreadsheet for you.
probably, but I'm asking for option 2 itt.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 07, 2022, 12:09:26 PM
Post by: nicname on January 07, 2022, 12:26:13 PM
NSFW
Cat9 Two Piece Composite 28/18 in special American Flag livery because in THIS house we salute old glory and we tear up when Lee Greenwood hits his crescendo.
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So hot. Kid on our team had one last season. No bat has a better sound than the CAT bats.
Post by: nicname on January 07, 2022, 12:29:56 PM
One final tidbit, and I am sure this is not unique to baseball. When the coaches let everyone know what you owe for the tournament, uniforms, or whatever needs paid for, you are for sure subsidizing the coaches kids share.
was revisiting this thread and want to report that this is for sure not the case with our program
Not at all. I've always ended up paying more than my fair share whenever I've coached any team. It's part of the gig.
Post by: KST8FAN on January 07, 2022, 06:15:53 PM
Search online templates for statement of account
Two templates come up but they're very similar
Simple ledger. Add a column for entity/person otherwise it got date, descr, Dr, Cr, balance
Anything you want to report you pivot table or SUMIF or SUMIFS it.
Tom
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Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2022, 08:57:07 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 07, 2022, 10:41:41 PM
Yeah, I already lazily built it after NONE OF YOU CHUDS did it for me in the first hour after I posted.
Wow, check out this malaka.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 08, 2022, 12:00:38 PM
He is that nerd :DOn top of being assistant baseball coach I'm also team accountant and social media coordinator for lil sd's baseball team. because apparently I can't quit volunteering for crap. do any of you accountant or team accountant cats have an excel file example of a good format for a team budget? will have to track personal and corporate donations and fees and stuff for 12 kids/parents and facility fees, touney fees, gear, cages, all that stuff. I'm sure I can put something together very easily but I'm not an accountant and thought I'd ask first. TY.
Can y'all not spring for quickbooks? It's super easy to use and does all of that without you having to finagle with excel. If you don't or can't do that I'm sure you can find a nerd that can make a functional spreadsheet for you.
Post by: KST8FAN on January 08, 2022, 03:37:40 PM
Tom
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 08, 2022, 10:02:36 PM
:lol:He is that nerd :DOn top of being assistant baseball coach I'm also team accountant and social media coordinator for lil sd's baseball team. because apparently I can't quit volunteering for crap. do any of you accountant or team accountant cats have an excel file example of a good format for a team budget? will have to track personal and corporate donations and fees and stuff for 12 kids/parents and facility fees, touney fees, gear, cages, all that stuff. I'm sure I can put something together very easily but I'm not an accountant and thought I'd ask first. TY.
Can y'all not spring for quickbooks? It's super easy to use and does all of that without you having to finagle with excel. If you don't or can't do that I'm sure you can find a nerd that can make a functional spreadsheet for you.
Post by: nicname on January 10, 2022, 01:15:01 PM
Post by: steve dave on January 10, 2022, 01:29:44 PM
Congrats on sliding into that assistant role sd. Assistant is the sweet spot.It’s the max I’m qualified for. We have two coaches who played D1/professional ball and also happen to be incred dads and coaches. I’m along for the ride.
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Post by: wiley on March 30, 2022, 03:15:44 PM
had our first game last night, it was a blast. lil sd and I watched the Texas v. TTech game that went to extras the other day where the TTech guy stole home to end it. lil sd asked me on the way to the game if he got to third if he could take it if the pitcher wasn't paying attention and I told him absofuckinglutely not. anyway he barreled a double and then stole 3rd and then the catcher lost one in the dirt and he stole home. he was buzzing he was so jacked after the game. just felt good to finally play one after practicing non-stop indoors all winter and then having our first two games cancelled for weather. also one of our kids barfed at school and got sent home but still made it to the game. hope you aren't contagious you freak but love the energy!Way to go lil sd! Stealing home was always a fun experience. I learned early to not steal home when kids that were batting either didn’t know the signals or disregarded because they just want to hit dingers. I stole on a slow windup and the batter almost took my head off swinging for the fences.
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Post by: Spracne on March 30, 2022, 03:24:54 PM
had our first game last night, it was a blast. lil sd and I watched the Texas v. TTech game that went to extras the other day where the TTech guy stole home to end it. lil sd asked me on the way to the game if he got to third if he could take it if the pitcher wasn't paying attention and I told him absofuckinglutely not. anyway he barreled a double and then stole 3rd and then the catcher lost one in the dirt and he stole home. he was buzzing he was so jacked after the game. just felt good to finally play one after practicing non-stop indoors all winter and then having our first two games cancelled for weather. also one of our kids barfed at school and got sent home but still made it to the game. hope you aren't contagious you freak but love the energy!Way to go lil sd! Stealing home was always a fun experience. I learned early to not steal home when kids that were batting either didn’t know the signals or disregarded because they just want to hit dingers. I stole on a slow windup and the batter almost took my head off swinging for the fences.
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Is that you, Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez?
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2022, 03:47:43 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 30, 2022, 04:24:21 PM
had our first game last night, it was a blast. lil sd and I watched the Texas v. TTech game that went to extras the other day where the TTech guy stole home to end it. lil sd asked me on the way to the game if he got to third if he could take it if the pitcher wasn't paying attention and I told him absofuckinglutely not. anyway he barreled a double and then stole 3rd and then the catcher lost one in the dirt and he stole home. he was buzzing he was so jacked after the game. just felt good to finally play one after practicing non-stop indoors all winter and then having our first two games cancelled for weather. also one of our kids barfed at school and got sent home but still made it to the game. hope you aren't contagious you freak but love the energy!
technically this isn't a steal of home. this is advancing on a passed ball. I understand if you want to ban me now SD
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 01, 2022, 02:34:41 PM
had our first game last night, it was a blast. lil sd and I watched the Texas v. TTech game that went to extras the other day where the TTech guy stole home to end it. lil sd asked me on the way to the game if he got to third if he could take it if the pitcher wasn't paying attention and I told him absofuckinglutely not. anyway he barreled a double and then stole 3rd and then the catcher lost one in the dirt and he stole home. he was buzzing he was so jacked after the game. just felt good to finally play one after practicing non-stop indoors all winter and then having our first two games cancelled for weather. also one of our kids barfed at school and got sent home but still made it to the game. hope you aren't contagious you freak but love the energy!
technically this isn't a steal of home. this is advancing on a passed ball. I understand if you want to ban me now SD
could be a WP also, deinitely nopt a sb tho
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2022, 03:10:39 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2022, 06:41:19 PM
I just checked gamechanger and it was scored as a steal. Also I have admin access to gamechanger but that’s NOT relevant right now.
smh. I bet your team scores a ground ball to short with an overthrow to first base where the kid advances to third as a "triple."
Post by: catastrophe on April 01, 2022, 07:58:04 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2022, 11:21:00 AM
Observations:
1. JV and C team games are BITB. The coaches don't care that much about winning and they just coach and play ball. Not too many fans around.
2. Varsity games are intense. I've only done one, and man, that ball moves quick.
3. There is a cultural thing now where travel ball teams will bring a speaker to the field and play walk up music for their team. It is maybe the most annoying thing of all time.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2022, 11:33:31 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 13, 2022, 11:45:24 AM
https://twitter.com/peytonyager/status/1513938828242960384?s=20&t=nK92ZnYdcrT_c71i6NpXTQ
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2022, 11:46:58 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on April 13, 2022, 12:17:46 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 13, 2022, 01:43:39 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:00 PM
Last one take it to the signs of getting old thread. Thanks for umping though, they are going to die out with all the Karen and Chad parents/coaches unfortunately.
95% of people are cool- and its way worse at the 10/11/12 year old level than high school ball.
Sorry, the other comment is in the correct thread. I won't move it.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2022, 01:50:14 PM
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/41005abd-58ce-4ad3-b59e-6528e916a0e8Last one take it to the signs of getting old thread. Thanks for umping though, they are going to die out with all the Karen and Chad parents/coaches unfortunately.
95% of people are cool- and its way worse at the 10/11/12 year old level than high school ball.
Sorry, the other comment is in the correct thread. I won't move it.
don't think it's that big of a deal. 99% of them won't have walkup music playing for them any other time in life.
Post by: bucket on April 13, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
I saw a similar incident on Twitter yesterday where an ump shared a pic of her face with a healthy shiner after being punched by a player's parent. A little further down on that thread someone found that parent's mugshot and I kid you not her shirt said MOTHER OF THE YEAR on it.
https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1513942081663914009
Post by: OB_Won on April 13, 2022, 03:55:40 PM
3. There is a cultural thing now where travel ball teams will bring a speaker to the field and play walk up music for their team. It is maybe the most annoying thing of all time.They did this for my son's 5U T-ball team last year (dfw burbs). :facepalm: I guess on the bright side it helped the kids know who was up to bat, and got them excited to meander to home plate.
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2022, 03:57:07 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2022, 04:23:59 PM
3. There is a cultural thing now where travel ball teams will bring a speaker to the field and play walk up music for their team. It is maybe the most annoying thing of all time.They did this for my son's 5U T-ball team last year (dfw burbs). :facepalm: I guess on the bright side it helped the kids know who was up to bat, and got them excited to meander to home plate.
IMO walkup music is the least problematic aspect of travel baseball and probably the most kickass
Post by: Skipper44 on April 13, 2022, 04:38:33 PM
did the 5 year olds get to pick their song?3. There is a cultural thing now where travel ball teams will bring a speaker to the field and play walk up music for their team. It is maybe the most annoying thing of all time.They did this for my son's 5U T-ball team last year (dfw burbs). :facepalm: I guess on the bright side it helped the kids know who was up to bat, and got them excited to meander to home plate.
Post by: nicname on April 13, 2022, 04:48:22 PM
Made for a very fun atmosphere. This was for weekday league games obv, and not tournaments.
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2022, 05:02:26 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2022, 05:25:48 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
Be careful out there, CF3.
https://twitter.com/peytonyager/status/1513938828242960384?s=20&t=nK92ZnYdcrT_c71i6NpXTQ
It was the right call tho, the glove was even with the plate, not ahead of it.
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2022, 09:08:53 PM
My wife is going to have our 3 year old play baseball this summer and I want no part of it.
it's wild that for much of america the first sport any kid plays is baseball. It's the boringest, most complicated, most standing around sport in the world and THAT'S what we start kids with?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 13, 2022, 09:10:39 PM
My wife is going to have our 3 year old play baseball this summer and I want no part of it.Wtf?! No
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2022, 09:35:00 PM
My wife is going to have our 3 year old play baseball this summer and I want no part of it.
it's wild that for much of america the first sport any kid plays is baseball. It's the boringest, most complicated, most standing around sport in the world and THAT'S what we start kids with?
I actually think it’s a pretty good one because it’s so orderly. Soccer at little kid levels is chaos
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2022, 09:37:55 PM
My wife is going to have our 3 year old play baseball this summer and I want no part of it.
it's wild that for much of america the first sport any kid plays is baseball. It's the boringest, most complicated, most standing around sport in the world and THAT'S what we start kids with?
I actually think it’s a pretty good one because it’s so orderly. Soccer at little kid levels is chaos
Yeah I guess if your goal with youth sports is to teach kids to be "orderly" without having any fun then yeah baseball is probably the best first sport
Post by: OB_Won on April 13, 2022, 11:43:56 PM
Yes. They did it on an app. The kids all recorded an announcement and sent it to their coach ("Now batting, number x, SAMMYYYYYY SO-SOooo !"). It would then fade in/out to the song they picked. It also let you pick the duration and section of the song. Had a couple interesting ones. It was funny to see a 4-5 y/o walk up to the only clean part of an eminem, snoop or dre song.did the 5 year olds get to pick their song?3. There is a cultural thing now where travel ball teams will bring a speaker to the field and play walk up music for their team. It is maybe the most annoying thing of all time.They did this for my son's 5U T-ball team last year (dfw burbs). :facepalm: I guess on the bright side it helped the kids know who was up to bat, and got them excited to meander to home plate.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2022, 02:17:11 PM
My wife is going to have our 3 year old play baseball this summer and I want no part of it.
it's wild that for much of america the first sport any kid plays is baseball. It's the boringest, most complicated, most standing around sport in the world and THAT'S what we start kids with?
I actually think it’s a pretty good one because it’s so orderly. Soccer at little kid levels is chaos
Yeah I guess if your goal with youth sports is to teach kids to be "orderly" without having any fun then yeah baseball is probably the best first sport
Exactly. He'll start soccer this fall and she will coach him but I'll at least have fun watching him run around and push some kids around. He just got a baseball glove for his birthday and teaching him how to use that thing is miserable right now.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 14, 2022, 02:30:43 PM
wtf.. figured it'd be baby shark at 4 years oldYes. They did it on an app. The kids all recorded an announcement and sent it to their coach ("Now batting, number x, SAMMYYYYYY SO-SOooo !"). It would then fade in/out to the song they picked. It also let you pick the duration and section of the song. Had a couple interesting ones. It was funny to see a 4-5 y/o walk up to the only clean part of an eminem, snoop or dre song.did the 5 year olds get to pick their song?3. There is a cultural thing now where travel ball teams will bring a speaker to the field and play walk up music for their team. It is maybe the most annoying thing of all time.They did this for my son's 5U T-ball team last year (dfw burbs). :facepalm: I guess on the bright side it helped the kids know who was up to bat, and got them excited to meander to home plate.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2022, 02:40:29 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 14, 2022, 03:34:55 PM
tell 'em something
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 14, 2022, 03:38:18 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 14, 2022, 03:47:16 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2022, 04:01:22 PM
Post by: mocat on April 14, 2022, 04:05:09 PM
Some poor kid with liberal parents probably has to walk up to a Neil Young song.
it's better to burn out at age 13 from too many practices than it is to rust
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 14, 2022, 04:23:05 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2022, 04:26:06 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 14, 2022, 05:26:29 PM
Some poor kid with liberal parents probably has to walk up to a Neil Young song.Lol
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Post by: OB_Won on April 14, 2022, 05:49:28 PM
Walk up music for 4 year old is entirely driven by parents, so it makes sense that the parents would also be selecting their kid's favorite song.Bingo! It was pretty easy to tell who let their kid pick. There was a baby shark...remix. There was also one called "Snake Farm" that became a crowd fav by season's end, but probably more to do with the nice kid that picked it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgy7PLAgF-Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgy7PLAgF-Y)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2022, 08:27:40 PM
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2022, 08:03:40 AM
I will let pete regale you with our softball walkup songs from over 12 years ago but did you know that pete would play walk up songs for our opposition? Were they complimentary? no. Did they attempt to exploit that batters insecurities? definitely
We had quite a setup, and this was like 15 years ago...for adult softball in Shawnee. We had a large children's trailer that we would take to the game and in it we would store a full sized Onkyo receiver with like a bagillion watts per channel, two huge tower speakers, a 100 foot extension cord, a deep cycle marine battery and AC adapter (in case we didn't have access to a plug in), and an a first generation iPod. We had manually cut everyone's favorite walkup music down to clips from their songs as their own mp3 files, and had them all in the proper batting order and all that. Then, we cut a pretty stellar list of simp and teenage girl complaint rock music to use as the walkup music for the other team as well.
The other teams either absolutely loved playing against us, or hated us. I'm not sure anyone on our team had less than two 30 ounce beers in them before we played any game.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 19, 2022, 09:43:59 AM
I will let pete regale you with our softball walkup songs from over 12 years ago but did you know that pete would play walk up songs for our opposition? Were they complimentary? no. Did they attempt to exploit that batters insecurities? definitely
We had quite a setup, and this was like 15 years ago...for adult softball in Shawnee. We had a large children's trailer that we would take to the game and in it we would store a full sized Onkyo receiver with like a bagillion watts per channel, two huge tower speakers, a 100 foot extension cord, a deep cycle marine battery and AC adapter (in case we didn't have access to a plug in), and an a first generation iPod. We had manually cut everyone's favorite walkup music down to clips from their songs as their own mp3 files, and had them all in the proper batting order and all that. Then, we cut a pretty stellar list of simp and teenage girl complaint rock music to use as the walkup music for the other team as well.
The other teams either absolutely loved playing against us, or hated us. I'm not sure anyone on our team had less than two 30 ounce beers in them before we played any game.
the good old days.
Post by: ben ji on April 21, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
I will let pete regale you with our softball walkup songs from over 12 years ago but did you know that pete would play walk up songs for our opposition? Were they complimentary? no. Did they attempt to exploit that batters insecurities? definitely
We had quite a setup, and this was like 15 years ago...for adult softball in Shawnee. We had a large children's trailer that we would take to the game and in it we would store a full sized Onkyo receiver with like a bagillion watts per channel, two huge tower speakers, a 100 foot extension cord, a deep cycle marine battery and AC adapter (in case we didn't have access to a plug in), and an a first generation iPod. We had manually cut everyone's favorite walkup music down to clips from their songs as their own mp3 files, and had them all in the proper batting order and all that. Then, we cut a pretty stellar list of simp and teenage girl complaint rock music to use as the walkup music for the other team as well.
The other teams either absolutely loved playing against us, or hated us. I'm not sure anyone on our team had less than two 30 ounce beers in them before we played any game.
Mid-America? I've been playing out there for 5 years now is the D league of D leagues and pretty much every team brings a speaker to the game now. The protocol is that when your team is up you get to play your music, when you are in the field the opponent gets to play their music.
Probably alot easier now with Bluetooth speakers being so prevalent. They just remodeled the place over the last 2 years and the infields are now all field turf which helps slow down the piss missile's flying off the bat in the infield.
Also 32 oz busch lattes are only $6
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2022, 06:05:51 PM
I will let pete regale you with our softball walkup songs from over 12 years ago but did you know that pete would play walk up songs for our opposition? Were they complimentary? no. Did they attempt to exploit that batters insecurities? definitely
We had quite a setup, and this was like 15 years ago...for adult softball in Shawnee. We had a large children's trailer that we would take to the game and in it we would store a full sized Onkyo receiver with like a bagillion watts per channel, two huge tower speakers, a 100 foot extension cord, a deep cycle marine battery and AC adapter (in case we didn't have access to a plug in), and an a first generation iPod. We had manually cut everyone's favorite walkup music down to clips from their songs as their own mp3 files, and had them all in the proper batting order and all that. Then, we cut a pretty stellar list of simp and teenage girl complaint rock music to use as the walkup music for the other team as well.
The other teams either absolutely loved playing against us, or hated us. I'm not sure anyone on our team had less than two 30 ounce beers in them before we played any game.
Mid-America? I've been playing out there for 5 years now is the D league of D leagues and pretty much every team brings a speaker to the game now. The protocol is that when your team is up you get to play your music, when you are in the field the opponent gets to play their music.
Probably alot easier now with Bluetooth speakers being so prevalent. They just remodeled the place over the last 2 years and the infields are now all field turf which helps slow down the piss missile's flying off the bat in the infield.
Also 32 oz busch lattes are only $6
Yep, Mid America. I can confidently say we were the first to play walkup music there.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 21, 2022, 06:27:51 PM
I will let pete regale you with our softball walkup songs from over 12 years ago but did you know that pete would play walk up songs for our opposition? Were they complimentary? no. Did they attempt to exploit that batters insecurities? definitely
We had quite a setup, and this was like 15 years ago...for adult softball in Shawnee. We had a large children's trailer that we would take to the game and in it we would store a full sized Onkyo receiver with like a bagillion watts per channel, two huge tower speakers, a 100 foot extension cord, a deep cycle marine battery and AC adapter (in case we didn't have access to a plug in), and an a first generation iPod. We had manually cut everyone's favorite walkup music down to clips from their songs as their own mp3 files, and had them all in the proper batting order and all that. Then, we cut a pretty stellar list of simp and teenage girl complaint rock music to use as the walkup music for the other team as well.
The other teams either absolutely loved playing against us, or hated us. I'm not sure anyone on our team had less than two 30 ounce beers in them before we played any game.
Mid-America? I've been playing out there for 5 years now is the D league of D leagues and pretty much every team brings a speaker to the game now. The protocol is that when your team is up you get to play your music, when you are in the field the opponent gets to play their music.
Probably alot easier now with Bluetooth speakers being so prevalent. They just remodeled the place over the last 2 years and the infields are now all field turf which helps slow down the piss missile's flying off the bat in the infield.
Also 32 oz busch lattes are only $6
Yep, Mid America. I can confidently say we were the first to play walkup music there.
Yeah, no one had even thought of it. One of my bros bumped into an old GF and her nw husband. Turns out now husband used to play out there in our glory days and they absolutely worshipped us. Would look ahead to the schedule so that friends/family came out when they played us.
To put it in a technological timeframe perspective: we HAD TO HAVE a full 3 prong outlet to have any music. This was a very high power home stereo with woodgrain tower speakers from someone's home. We carried 100 ft of orange extension cord and ran it around fields to an outlet at the base of light towers. This was not a rough ridin' waterproof jawbone you put in your pocket. This was a goddam home stereo you could hear over at the rough ridin' ice rink
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2022, 08:14:15 PM
NSFWFirst game using this hot POA (because you can’t swing it if it’s under 65 degrees). 1 pitch, 1 smoked single to left field. Then almost immediately lightning cancellation because Spring sucks the big one.
Cat9 Two Piece Composite 28/18 in special American Flag livery because in THIS house we salute old glory and we tear up when Lee Greenwood hits his crescendo.
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 21, 2022, 09:18:03 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on April 21, 2022, 09:44:23 PM
So I was the cheap dad when it came to bats. #2 was the biggest kid on the team he ought to be able to hit it out with a broom stick.NSFWFirst game using this hot POA (because you can’t swing it if it’s under 65 degrees). 1 pitch, 1 smoked single to left field. Then almost immediately lightning cancellation because Spring sucks the big one.
Cat9 Two Piece Composite 28/18 in special American Flag livery because in THIS house we salute old glory and we tear up when Lee Greenwood hits his crescendo.
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The smallest kid on the team had like a $300 bat. I knew this because his dad protected that bat like it was made of gold. No one else could use it, kept in the bag under the bench. It didn't mingle with the other bats hanging from the chain link.
In one of our last games in 6th grade, late innings, #2 has managed to negotiate using this bat for one of his last at bats.
I am coaching 1st base, but I refrain from the wtf look when he comes to the plate.
Gets a fast ball knee high and turns on it. Deposited it over the LF wall and about 25 ft past that the ball bounces off the top of the concession stand.
#2 rounded first with a how do you like me now look.
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Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2022, 10:33:47 PM
Glove - actually kind of important. More about it being broken in right and kid confident in it.
Bat - mostly not important probably but the confidence boost of a hot POA in your hands probably fairly big
Shoes - any cleats will do. Soccer, football, etc.
Catchers gear - fit is the only thing that matters. If you make catchers gear it’s plenty high quality imo. But it has to fit.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 22, 2022, 12:43:44 PM
My 9 year old plays in a recreational soccer league and does the Ronaldo siiiiuuu celebration when he scores.
:love:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 26, 2022, 02:42:15 PM
imo on gear:
Glove - actually kind of important. More about it being broken in right and kid confident in it.
Bat - mostly not important probably but the confidence boost of a hot POA in your hands probably fairly big
Shoes - any cleats will do. Soccer, football, etc.
Catchers gear - fit is the only thing that matters. If you make catchers gear it’s plenty high quality imo. But it has to fit.
agreed. also helmet needs to fit. I think batting g's are pretty helpful too but not necessary for young kids.
I was at a big tournament over the weekend and saw kids even in 11U games wearing a sliding glove on the bases. I was like, you guys are all pigeons.
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2022, 02:45:02 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2022, 02:46:30 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 26, 2022, 02:54:04 PM
WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
Post by: nicname on April 26, 2022, 03:12:50 PM
WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
It’s all about being cool. Like every kid on our team has Canseco shades.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 26, 2022, 04:23:51 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2022, 05:54:54 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on April 26, 2022, 06:55:17 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2022, 06:57:40 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2022, 09:17:18 PM
LOL I'd never even heard of a sliding glove
Certainly you've seen them in major league games, it's that oven mitt looking thing they put on at first base.
Post by: ben ji on April 26, 2022, 09:44:38 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 26, 2022, 09:47:51 PM
I still play beer league softball out at Mid America and they recently replaced the entire field with field turf including the infield. Its actually pretty great for beer league softball since the field turf slow down the piss missile ground balls a bunch and reduced the wicked bounces from a dirt infield. Also makes it basically impossible for a game to get rained out.
Post by: nicname on April 26, 2022, 10:06:01 PM
Random question. Do any of the youth baseball fields have field turf?
I still play beer league softball out at Mid America and they recently replaced the entire field with field turf including the infield. Its actually pretty great for beer league softball since the field turf slow down the piss missile ground balls a bunch and reduced the wicked bounces from a dirt infield. Also makes it basically impossible for a game to get rained out.
Some of the rich people fields do, and a decent amount of high schools.
Best youth baseball fields I’ve ever seen are in Concordia, KS. Beautiful grass infields and nice grass outfields w/ ~220 walls not fences. Perfect for 10u. I think their 12u were like 225 down line and 240 in center.
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2022, 10:33:43 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on April 26, 2022, 11:31:27 PM
Topeka has a turf field youth complex at Lake Shawnee and Liberty MO has one tooThat's a nice complex in Topeka. Bettis Family fields for baseball youth thru high school.
Those fields at Mid America will get used for youth tournaments as we played there a couple of times.
Tom
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 27, 2022, 08:38:39 AM
Post by: meow meow on April 27, 2022, 10:15:13 AM
Are you allowed to chew seeds at these other facilities with turf? MHK locks it down and I got the need for seeds when at a baseball game.
also, what about entire cheeks filled with levi garrett?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 27, 2022, 11:33:35 AM
Are you allowed to chew seeds at these other facilities with turf? MHK locks it down and I got the need for seeds when at a baseball game.
You can't even chew seeds on college turf fields like at The Toint.
I hate turf.
Post by: meow meow on April 27, 2022, 12:23:32 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2022, 12:27:42 PM
last spring i was at my daughter's soccer game, on turf, i was chewing sunflower seeds. after the game, there were a bunch of shells around me on the turf, i was like i probably shouldn't have done that :dunno:
The liberty facility had seed nazis walking around during the tournament
Post by: ChiComCat on April 27, 2022, 12:39:08 PM
Post by: meow meow on April 27, 2022, 12:45:21 PM
Post by: nicname on April 27, 2022, 12:47:21 PM
They enforce it because it's better than cleaning up trash someone else spit out of their mouth. How hard is it not to chew sunflower seeds?
It’s a baseball tradition you dweeb.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 27, 2022, 12:53:56 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 27, 2022, 12:57:01 PM
Post by: meow meow on April 27, 2022, 12:59:18 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 27, 2022, 01:04:12 PM
make the players in the field play with a feed bag they can spit into, problem solved
Or they can clean up after themselves after the game, thus protecting the tradition
Post by: Spracne on April 27, 2022, 01:05:26 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 27, 2022, 01:19:05 PM
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Post by: nicname on April 27, 2022, 03:09:39 PM
Honestly if they don’t try seeds they’ll never get into chaw. No chaw equals no big leagues
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Or at least no giant Red Man spit rockets while pounding Busch Lights at rec league softball games.
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2022, 03:17:53 PM
Post by: nicname on April 27, 2022, 05:00:31 PM
Tons of people spit seeds into a plastic bottle like it’s Copenhagen at our facilities.
Do you have turf?
Post by: nicname on April 27, 2022, 05:02:46 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2022, 05:05:51 PM
Sorry, INDOOR facilities. So yes, obviously.Tons of people spit seeds into a plastic bottle like it’s Copenhagen at our facilities.
Do you have turf?
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2022, 05:07:13 PM
Btw, turf extends the life of a baseball by like x 1,000,000. Dry-ass dirt infields will chew up any leather ball in a few practices. About the only balls that can withstand the pounding of a shitty infield are the synthetic Diamond DBX balls, which are basically indestructible.I have 2 - 5 gal buckets of Rawlings crap balls that cannot be harmed by any weather event and also are incredibly shiny. We use them for all outdoor practices because leather baseballs are expensive AF.
These:
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Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2022, 05:09:17 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2022, 05:13:50 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.Most of the people around here that do this are like former major leaguers so I’ve got to find a different angle though…. :-(
Post by: ben ji on April 27, 2022, 05:45:18 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.Most of the people around here that do this are like former major leaguers so I’ve got to find a different angle though…. :-(
Reminds me of the old Mac & Seitz facility that was in JoCo growing up...run by former Royals Mike MacFarlane and Kevin Seitzer.
I used to go there and smoke some balls from the batting cage...They had "Slow" "Medium" "Fast"(which was like maybe 85mph or something).
Nothing like getting dared by your 12 year old bros to step into the "Fast" cage and being scared shitless.
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2022, 05:48:07 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.Most of the people around here that do this are like former major leaguers so I’ve got to find a different angle though…. :-(
Naw you can do it for sure, just hire an instructor to run crap. Gotta be a billion of them hanging around Omaha. There are tons of those places around KC.
Post by: nicname on April 27, 2022, 05:54:26 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.
Same.
Does your team have many scheduled practices? I ask because a dad on our team sends his younger son to Wichita for baseball. His kids go to catholic schools there. Anyway, they only have like 1 scheduled practice a week, but there is always someone at their facility available to work with and kid who comes in. Most of the team goes in 4-5 times a week in addition to “practice.”
Theory is that when it’s something they “can” do rather than something they “must” do they will want to and it will be fun and not like work.
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2022, 07:17:05 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 27, 2022, 11:07:05 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.Most of the people around here that do this are like former major leaguers so I’ve got to find a different angle though…. :-(
Yeah, literally all of the batting cages here are indoor cages at these facilities, it's annoying as eff for an old man who just wants to go rip some line drives on a Tuesday afternoon.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 28, 2022, 05:16:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 28, 2022, 07:24:19 PM
I know why they go to turf, but i hate it for baseball. Baseball should be on dirt and grass. Also- turf is crazy hot in summer.
The Word
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 28, 2022, 07:52:09 PM
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Post by: nicname on April 28, 2022, 08:41:13 PM
Nothing quite like sliding into second, ripping your pants on the kitty litter field with a fat raspberry on your hammy and ass
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And there is the problem w most natural grass/dirt youth fields. They’re rarely worked and watered down the way they should be.
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2022, 09:45:51 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.Most of the people around here that do this are like former major leaguers so I’ve got to find a different angle though…. :-(
Yeah, literally all of the batting cages here are indoor cages at these facilities, it's annoying as eff for an old man who just wants to go rip some line drives on a Tuesday afternoon.
My folks have so many massive shops/buildings/whatever you want to call them. Parked combines, tractor trailers, all kinds of bullshit in them and some just sat empty for a good part of the spring/summer. Full lighting, concrete floors, reasonably insulated from the weather. Like could set up a full court basketball court or dozens of batting cages and crap. Dad obviously never let me do it growing up. One of my primary motivations to buying a place a bit outside of town is to have this option and put batting cages in it and basketball hoops and heaters and all kinds of fun crap. my window for being able to A) afford this B) get anything out of it having kids still living with me, is very short (like the next 10 years only). I don't think it will happen and I'm sad about it.
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2022, 09:50:21 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.Most of the people around here that do this are like former major leaguers so I’ve got to find a different angle though…. :-(
Yeah, literally all of the batting cages here are indoor cages at these facilities, it's annoying as eff for an old man who just wants to go rip some line drives on a Tuesday afternoon.
oh, also the best deal going is the batting cage/pitching lane membership through our club. We have two massive warehouses with tons of lanes and cages. One of them has 4 or 5 pitching machine cages and I get up to 30 minutes a day free at any cage or lane with my membership ($6.25 every 15 minutes after that). Cages and lanes are all the same price so pitching machines are in that. We reserve them online up to a week in advance. They give you a giant bucket of balls when you check in if you don't have them and the golf ball pitching machine balls if you want to smoke those instead of baseballs. I can't remember what I pay for it but it's basically nothing. Like $150 for 6 months. So our team obviously all have it and we just each rent out 30 minute blocks in tons of the lanes/cages and do team hitting or team pitching twice a week off season and once in season. Also they have indoor quads that we rent for $80 for an hour. The good news is that it's some rando HS kid working the entire massive complex and we just show up and squat on a quad every saturday morning that we don't have a game. So we get it free. Sometimes we'll have the entire place to ourself and could play an indoor game in there when we pull the nets back. Our HC is on the "board" of the club so he gets the wink/nod when we show up if they aren't booked.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 28, 2022, 11:08:46 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 29, 2022, 10:15:46 PM
Also my retirement dream is to invest in a massive old warehouse and convert it to indoor baseball/football training and either run a club that trains out of it or lease it to one and just do baseball stuff all winter and smoke batting machine balls whenever I want.Most of the people around here that do this are like former major leaguers so I’ve got to find a different angle though…. :-(
Yeah, literally all of the batting cages here are indoor cages at these facilities, it's annoying as eff for an old man who just wants to go rip some line drives on a Tuesday afternoon.
My folks have so many massive shops/buildings/whatever you want to call them. Parked combines, tractor trailers, all kinds of bullshit in them and some just sat empty for a good part of the spring/summer. Full lighting, concrete floors, reasonably insulated from the weather. Like could set up a full court basketball court or dozens of batting cages and crap. Dad obviously never let me do it growing up. One of my primary motivations to buying a place a bit outside of town is to have this option and put batting cages in it and basketball hoops and heaters and all kinds of fun crap. my window for being able to A) afford this B) get anything out of it having kids still living with me, is very short (like the next 10 years only). I don't think it will happen and I'm sad about it.
Someone in my highschool's dad built a gym in an old building. It didn't have hardwood floors (had that rubbery stuff you see in elementary and middle schools), but it still ruled.
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2022, 10:50:13 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2022, 07:15:35 AM
What's an indoor quad?Just a big indoor astroturf space. If it’s big enough you can break it up into quads for 4 teams to practice at once. If the place is massive you can have games and tournaments inside.
Post by: stunted on May 01, 2022, 11:56:07 AM
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2022, 05:16:29 PM
Folks (from yesterday)WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
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Post by: wetwillie on May 04, 2022, 06:22:30 PM
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2022, 06:33:19 PM
Goddamn the face mask is really a thing nowIt’s been a requirement forever man
Post by: Justwin on May 04, 2022, 06:49:09 PM
Goddamn the face mask is really a thing nowIt’s been a requirement forever man
It's not a requirement everywhere.
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2022, 06:56:26 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on May 04, 2022, 07:25:06 PM
Goddamn the face mask is really a thing nowIt’s been a requirement forever man
Like under a certain age or even like 14U in Nebraska is sporting the full mask?
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2022, 07:27:19 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 04, 2022, 07:29:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2022, 11:00:18 PM
Folks (from yesterday)WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
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Is siding head first at that age no longer outlawed? When I played as a lil tyke siding head first was an automatic out.
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2022, 11:34:58 PM
No, it’s allowed. Our kids do it, sans oven mitt.Folks (from yesterday)WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
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Is siding head first at that age no longer outlawed? When I played as a lil tyke siding head first was an automatic out.
Post by: Tobias on May 05, 2022, 07:54:17 AM
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2022, 07:59:12 AM
field hockey?Irl the best sliding shorts for baseball are lacrosse shorts
Post by: MakeItRain on May 10, 2022, 05:39:19 PM
https://twitter.com/AccordingBoxing/status/1523508077235892225
Also, SD pull some strings and get me some time with Bud.
Post by: Cire on May 10, 2022, 06:26:30 PM
This girl is incredible
https://twitter.com/a_twice3/status/1522422487992184832?s=21&t=Mbm0WpfBzttZg_9ZASM8tg
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Post by: steve dave on May 10, 2022, 08:02:26 PM
Holy crap, luckily SD's 9 year old is a boy who plays baseball.Amaze
https://twitter.com/AccordingBoxing/status/1523508077235892225
Also, SD pull some strings and get me some time with Bud.
Post by: schreds21 on May 10, 2022, 09:08:21 PM
Lol at an 8 yr old wearing a sliding glove. Someone please tell him and his dad that he's wearing it on the wrong hand.Folks (from yesterday)WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
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Post by: MakeItRain on May 11, 2022, 09:53:35 AM
Lol at an 8 yr old wearing a sliding glove. Someone please tell him and his dad that he's wearing it on the wrong hand.Folks (from yesterday)WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
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lol didn't even notice that, maybe the coach wants them siding inside second base
Post by: Winters on May 11, 2022, 10:01:08 AM
Holy crap, luckily SD's 9 year old is a boy who plays baseball.That was awesome!
https://twitter.com/AccordingBoxing/status/1523508077235892225
Also, SD pull some strings and get me some time with Bud.
Post by: schreds21 on May 11, 2022, 02:55:50 PM
Well then his coach is dumb and should not be a coach any longer.Lol at an 8 yr old wearing a sliding glove. Someone please tell him and his dad that he's wearing it on the wrong hand.Folks (from yesterday)WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
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lol didn't even notice that, maybe the coach wants them siding inside second base
Post by: steve dave on May 11, 2022, 03:02:05 PM
Their coach is former Royal (minor league) player Dwayne Hosey! Though in his defense he predates sliding gloves by quite a bit.Well then his coach is dumb and should not be a coach any longer.Lol at an 8 yr old wearing a sliding glove. Someone please tell him and his dad that he's wearing it on the wrong hand.Folks (from yesterday)WE PLAYED A TEAM THE OTHER DAY IN 9U WITH A KID WITH A SLIDING GLOVE!
I've done probably 40 KSHAA games this year and seen maybe 2 or 3 kids use a sliding glove. Its pretty pointless IMO
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lol didn't even notice that, maybe the coach wants them siding inside second base
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Post by: schreds21 on May 11, 2022, 11:33:14 PM
Post by: nicname on May 11, 2022, 11:39:35 PM
That guy probably didn't even wear batting gloves.
George Brett never needed rough ridin' batting gloves.
Post by: schreds21 on May 11, 2022, 11:40:52 PM
Post by: schreds21 on May 11, 2022, 11:43:46 PM
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Post by: Spracne on May 21, 2022, 02:25:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 21, 2022, 04:00:23 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
Post by: steve dave on May 21, 2022, 04:59:56 PM
First time in Des Moines playing ball. Hyvees and Culver’s abound.lmao we played in an IA tourney a few weeks ago and took our team to a Culver’s between games
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2022, 05:12:49 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 21, 2022, 10:09:10 PM
First time in Des Moines playing ball. Hyvees and Culver’s abound.
I am real pissed you didn't message me, but I'm not there anyway.
Post by: Spracne on May 21, 2022, 10:15:00 PM
First time in Des Moines playing ball. Hyvees and Culver’s abound.
I am real pissed you didn't message me, but I'm not there anyway.
Hangin' in Chicago w/ dax?
Post by: MakeItRain on May 22, 2022, 11:41:39 AM
First time in Des Moines playing ball. Hyvees and Culver’s abound.
I am real pissed you didn't message me, but I'm not there anyway.
Hangin' in Chicago w/ dax?
lol, busted.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 28, 2022, 01:28:08 AM
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Post by: steve dave on May 31, 2022, 06:21:49 PM
https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1531773383024721920
Post by: wiley on May 31, 2022, 06:38:31 PM
least surprising thing in the world is this POS being that baseball parentIt’s shocking that he would be a witness to the most egregious call in little league history.
https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1531773383024721920
* i clicked the link and saw it was over 8 minutes and closed it. So if i missed something important can i get a TL;DR version?
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Post by: nicname on May 31, 2022, 06:42:05 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2022, 07:01:32 PM
least surprising thing in the world is this POS being that baseball parentLMAO
https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1531773383024721920
Post by: chum1 on May 31, 2022, 07:14:16 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2022, 07:18:15 PM
Highlights:
-90% of umpires in Nashville listen to his show
-Ump took a 10 minute bathroom break after half an inning
-Ump made a kid take off a chain
-Ump called out two batters for throwing their cats
-Kicked out for saying "you gotta be rough ridin' kidding me"
-Clay was there with his parents
-The umpire is being paid, therefore he is a professional that should be held to a professional standard
-"You're a loser" - Clay talking about the ump
-If they sent the tape to this loser's boss they definitely would have agreed that it was a bad call, like they do in the NFL when they miss calls
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2022, 07:19:31 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 31, 2022, 09:36:53 PM
I watched!
Highlights:
-90% of umpires in Nashville listen to his show
-Ump took a 10 minute bathroom break after half an inning
-Ump made a kid take off a chain
-Ump called out two batters for throwing their cats
-Kicked out for saying "you gotta be rough ridin' kidding me"
-Clay was there with his parents
-The umpire is being paid, therefore he is a professional that should be held to a professional standard
-"You're a loser" - Clay talking about the ump
-If they sent the tape to this loser's boss they definitely would have agreed that it was a bad call, like they do in the NFL when they miss calls
:D
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 01, 2022, 07:40:33 AM
least surprising thing in the world is this POS being that baseball parent
https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1531773383024721920
yup, that checks all of the boxes.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 01, 2022, 12:03:14 PM
That’s wild. I like the mask, seems like a no brainer to me. Ours wear the jaw extension now, mask will probably follow eventually.
just now catching up ITT but that's called a C flap, my man.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 01, 2022, 12:55:42 PM
I watched!
Highlights:
-90% of umpires in Nashville listen to his show
-Ump took a 10 minute bathroom break after half an inning
-Ump made a kid take off a chain
-Ump called out two batters for throwing their cats
-Kicked out for saying "you gotta be rough ridin' kidding me"
-Clay was there with his parents
-The umpire is being paid, therefore he is a professional that should be held to a professional standard
-"You're a loser" - Clay talking about the ump
-If they sent the tape to this loser's boss they definitely would have agreed that it was a bad call, like they do in the NFL when they miss calls
So will magas reject clay because they believe in respect and sportsmanship and that a little league game is the absolute last place a non-pos yells swears from the stands OR will they join him being a victim and whining like a total beta?
we shall see.
Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2022, 04:59:42 PM
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1532117611454074880
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2022, 05:16:05 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 02, 2022, 12:18:36 PM
https://twitter.com/JoeyMulinaro/status/1531992515410272256
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 06, 2022, 11:35:32 AM
1. The batter interference on a catcher's throw is a rule, although I've never seen it called in a game to my recollection. Just because you haven't seen a rule enforced doesn't mean it's incorrect.
2. Most complexes or leagues or tournaments have rules about throwing bats and jewelry. Most umpires are too lazy to enforce it, or choose not to as a way to avoid confrontations. I'm guessing this dude is a letter of the law type.
3. I can't really understand the mindset of Clay. All this makes him look is childish and unkind.
Post by: steve dave on June 06, 2022, 11:36:51 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2022, 08:07:34 AM
omg lmao. When he just kept naming coaches :lol:Right?!!! :love: :lol:
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Post by: steve dave on June 25, 2022, 06:08:17 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 25, 2022, 07:46:34 PM
Is it seriously called the slumpbusterSlumpbuster was a baseball term WELL before your gutter mind heard the term
Post by: steve dave on June 25, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on June 26, 2022, 01:36:43 AM
Is it seriously called the slumpbusterSlumpbuster was a baseball term WELL before your gutter mind heard the term
I listened to Mark Grace, on the Jim Rome show, in roughly 2002-03 describe the term slumpbuster as "the fattest, gnarliest chick you take home to lay the wood to, to get out of a slump."
Post by: michigancat on June 26, 2022, 07:44:34 AM
Is it seriously called the slumpbusterSlumpbuster was a baseball term WELL before your gutter mind heard the term
I listened to Mark Grace, on the Jim Rome show, in roughly 2002-03 describe the term slumpbuster as "the fattest, gnarliest chick you take home to lay the wood to, to get out of a slump."
Yeah I was a big Jim Rome fan back in the day and I'm pretty sure it was even earlier than 2002. (The tournament started in 2003.)
Hmmm
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Post by: MakeItRain on June 29, 2022, 07:16:39 AM
Is it seriously called the slumpbusterSlumpbuster was a baseball term WELL before your gutter mind heard the term
I listened to Mark Grace, on the Jim Rome show, in roughly 2002-03 describe the term slumpbuster as "the fattest, gnarliest chick you take home to lay the wood to, to get out of a slump."
Yeah I was a big Jim Rome fan back in the day and I'm pretty sure it was even earlier than 2002. (The tournament started in 2003.)
Hmmm
It was 2003 https://deadspin.com/the-problem-with-mark-grace-and-sports-media-1844742710
https://www.stucknut.com/takebox/id/173
If they started the tournament in 2003, they almost certainly named the tournament based on what Grace said, particularly in Omaha where Rome was huge back then, even did a tour stop there.
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Post by: steve dave on July 03, 2022, 08:18:49 AM
Little dude(s) will be pumped to strut out with that pimp suit. Do any of the kids wear knee savers?
yeah, I'd say about half of the catchers wear them
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Time to retire the ol’ Posey 28. Nicname JR decided to stick with the one-piece alloy Cat8, which is the same bat as the Posey, just a different paint job.
Moved up from 31/21 to 31/26. He’s 5’8” now, but a stick at ~115. Looks like a baby giraffe half the time.
They’re super-cheap now and he was excited for the limited edition gold and black version (a proud Newtonian).
Lots of hits and great memories w/ the Posey.
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Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2022, 07:35:16 PM
Check out this hot POAUpdate
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Post by: nicname on August 24, 2022, 11:21:02 AM
any of your kids ever gone through a draft for little league? friend of mine says in his city for 7U boys (southeast state) they get all these kids together, let them field like 3 ground balls then take 3 swings, then run the bases. then all the coaches of each team pick their teams draft-style. had no idea this was a thing.
I’ve heard of youth basketball leagues doing this. They run into problems with “sandbagging” from time to time.
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2022, 12:02:57 PM
any of your kids ever gone through a draft for little league? friend of mine says in his city for 7U boys (southeast state) they get all these kids together, let them field like 3 ground balls then take 3 swings, then run the bases. then all the coaches of each team pick their teams draft-style. had no idea this was a thing.Yeah, my team growing up did. Meade would have 3’ish relatively evenly matched teams and Plains/Kismet would have two teams with one being great and the other being terrible and it would enrage everyone. Fowler of course would have only one terrible team. This is a thorough history of Meade County little league.
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Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2022, 12:03:46 PM
So, another one of my daughters cheer teammates suffered a terrible accident while cheering. She was dropped during a stunt and has been in the ICU since Monday evening. She has not gained consciousness yet.Awful. My 6 yo is in tumbling at some big cheer place here in Omaha and it terrifies me that she may want to pursue this stuff.
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 24, 2022, 12:08:39 PM
So, another one of my daughters cheer teammates suffered a terrible accident while cheering. She was dropped during a stunt and has been in the ICU since Monday evening. She has not gained consciousness yet.Awful. My 6 yo is in tumbling at some big cheer place here in Omaha and it terrifies me that she may want to pursue this stuff.
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Yeah, this girl is on one of the best competitive cheer teams in the world and she's a flyer. They throw those girls really high up in the air. She's just 15 years old.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 25, 2022, 12:11:42 PM
So, another one of my daughters cheer teammates suffered a terrible accident while cheering. She was dropped during a stunt and has been in the ICU since Monday evening. She has not gained consciousness yet.Awful. My 6 yo is in tumbling at some big cheer place here in Omaha and it terrifies me that she may want to pursue this stuff.
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6 and 7 are in competitive at Cheer Pit and they seem to be pretty safe but my middle for sure will be a flyer and that is scary.
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Post by: nicname on August 25, 2022, 03:49:52 PM
You know what’s almost as fun as little kid sports? When your kids are older and don’t really play sports anymore and you have like countless hours of time to do stuff or just not do stuff
Even when they play you just show up to games. Practice is over before dinner. School sports is awesome. Much more fun imo.
Post by: nicname on August 25, 2022, 03:54:23 PM
Can you explain how that is planned obsolescence? Isn’t that just a function of molded cleats being more practical to produce?
I wore the same pair of shoes for three seasons in high school. My feet were done growing after my sophomore year. Our school had big bags of replaceable cleats. You could also buy them for real cheap.
The shoes held up well and you just replaced the cleats as they wore down. When modern cleats wear down you have to replace with another $100+ shoe.
Post by: nicname on August 25, 2022, 03:58:01 PM
I had removable cleats and I’d change them a couple times a season. Mostly probably due to having to walk over the parking lot and back to the practice field imo.
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Yeah, it’s more of a high school thing.
Post by: wetwillie on August 25, 2022, 03:59:39 PM
Can you explain how that is planned obsolescence? Isn’t that just a function of molded cleats being more practical to produce?
I wore the same pair of shoes for three seasons in high school. My feet were done growing after my sophomore year. Our school had big bags of replaceable cleats. You could also buy them for real cheap.
The shoes held up well and you just replaced the cleats as they wore down. When modern cleats wear down you have to replace with another $100+ shoe.
The main body of your shoe held up for three years playing football? Those bad boys must be GOAT’d.
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Post by: steve dave on August 25, 2022, 09:11:21 PM
You know what’s almost as fun as little kid sports? When your kids are older and don’t really play sports anymore and you have like countless hours of time to do stuff or just not do stuff
I assistant coach (MAIN ASSISTANT NOT DAD ASSISTANT!) lil sd's travel baseball team as I've mentioned on here some. every single person I talk to tells me I'll miss it more than anything and I'll look back on it as the best days I ever had with my kids. but I'm also counting down the days because, folks, second full time job. right now we go 6 nights a week with football and baseball. we have friday's off thank god. and it's a grind. and I'm in peak "kind of important at irl work" years and it probably hurts that part of my life a bit. but I straight up told the person I report to that I'd quit today if they told me it was either asst coach my kids baseball team or my job (first world problems I realize). he was like "yeah obviously, work is pointless in the grand scheme of things" so my employer rules clearly. but man, it would be nice to talk to my wife at some point about something other than kid/work schedules. lil sd is mostly football/baseball but also plays basketball non-competively. lil girl sd is 6 and does swimming, gymnastics/cheer?, softball, soccer, volleyball. wtf with all this nonsense. but we have no idea what she will like so we just do all of it. I think I've made this same post once a year since we started doing kids sports but here's a 2022 update I guess. go cats.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 25, 2022, 10:02:27 PM
I think whatever is going on- a parent is going to look back and miss that time when their kids were young, and you should do whatever it takes to be as involved in your kids' lives as possible. 6 days a week with little kid practices? barf. its your kid? heaven.
Do what it takes to get special time when they're young. The drive to and from practice, the work for the piano recital, the working on the science project- don't take it for granted. Soak it up. Soak it the f up.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 29, 2022, 04:40:07 PM
Past few years the competitive swim and cheer parents have become pretty fun and the good news is they all have pools and have beer parties after meets and practice and I don't have to clean up empty claw cans after I just dip
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 30, 2022, 07:28:39 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on August 30, 2022, 10:50:03 PM
#2 is getting married this Friday. Three of his six groomsman are guys he played ball with from grade thru high school. Two more are college teammates. The last is his brother.
Keep grinding guys. I was a way better dad after I started coaching. I also remember the days when you just had to get to a 1-2 week off season to catch your breath and then go again.
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Post by: nicname on September 07, 2022, 08:56:09 PM
I’m like wtf? That’s like football coaching 101 at that level. Very young, first-year coach will learn. But he better learn fast.
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Post by: KST8FAN on September 07, 2022, 09:17:12 PM
7th grade football team already has 4 concussions. I ask nicname jr how often they work on form tackling and blocking technique. He tells me “we haven’t.”This is during games? Are these first year players?
I’m like wtf? That’s like football coaching 101 at that level. Very young, first-year coach will learn. But he better learn fast.
We had 1 concussion in 3 years coaching and that one the kid was ankle tackled, fell back, and bounced his head hard off the ground.
Tom
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Post by: nicname on September 07, 2022, 10:51:49 PM
7th grade football team already has 4 concussions. I ask nicname jr how often they work on form tackling and blocking technique. He tells me “we haven’t.”This is during games? Are these first year players?
I’m like wtf? That’s like football coaching 101 at that level. Very young, first-year coach will learn. But he better learn fast.
We had 1 concussion in 3 years coaching and that one the kid was ankle tackled, fell back, and bounced his head hard off the ground.
Tom
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Most have been playing for years. There are probably 7-8 new players. My son only started last year, but tells me they worked on form and hit all the time last season.
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2022, 06:47:19 PM
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Post by: Spracne on September 21, 2022, 07:46:59 PM
My baseball playing kid did one year of tackle football in 5th grade and got exposed athletically and it was enough for him to lose interest. I hope the same for you.
Really? I easily hid my lack of athleticism though middle school before hangin' 'em up. You're talking to former QB1 grades 4-8, here. My only real skill was remembering the plays.
Post by: Winters on September 22, 2022, 05:48:04 PM
lil sd is 9 and plays NFL Flag (7 on 7) through the same outfit that we play baseball through. it's MOSTLY a baseball organization but does do some football and some cheer. He's super small for his grade. plays CB mostly. I'm going to support him 100% if he decides to move to tackle (and it'll be whenever his friend/school group makes the move, probably next year) but I'm not looking forward to it. He's a catcher so he's tough AF but I just worry about it.Is he a speedster?
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2022, 08:42:14 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 22, 2022, 08:45:49 PM
School football is so much fun tho. By far the most fun and exhilarating to be a part of as a player.Yes, 100%
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Post by: steve dave on September 22, 2022, 08:46:29 PM
Nope. average. And given he has my genetics that average is probably the ceiling for speed.lil sd is 9 and plays NFL Flag (7 on 7) through the same outfit that we play baseball through. it's MOSTLY a baseball organization but does do some football and some cheer. He's super small for his grade. plays CB mostly. I'm going to support him 100% if he decides to move to tackle (and it'll be whenever his friend/school group makes the move, probably next year) but I'm not looking forward to it. He's a catcher so he's tough AF but I just worry about it.Is he a speedster?
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Post by: Spracne on September 23, 2022, 03:35:15 PM
I always pegged you as a bat man
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2022, 05:33:17 PM
you've barely pegged me at all irl
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you've barely pegged me at all irl
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I think I've said it before but baseball should be the very last sport we introduce kids to. How it became the first sport most kids in the country were introduced to is kind of mind-boggling.
(obv soccer is probably the first sport for most kids now but not in Kansas when I was a kid)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 07, 2022, 07:59:20 PM
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2022, 08:07:45 PM
Any elite kid sports coaches with recommendations /tips/resources about teaching kids to stop shooting a two handed push shot and start to shoot a basketball properly?
Not elite, but if they are young, don’t worry about it.
Offensively, Get them good at ball-handling, passing, cutting and screening, and especially driving! Lots of 1 v 1, 2 v 2, 3 v 3.
Teach them spacing 4-out or 5-out.
Post by: husserl on December 07, 2022, 10:04:07 PM
I'd recommend Brian Mccormick books to anybody doing any coaching.
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Post by: nicname on December 08, 2022, 12:08:07 AM
https://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/haefner/
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2022, 05:24:41 AM
Appropriately sized ball, short goal. Have them balance the ball/shoot one handed now and then until they get the basics of the motion. Generally though nicname is correct as far as emphasis goes, especially with early focus on ball handling and short sided games.
I'd recommend Brian Mccormick books to anybody doing any coaching.
Yes! Brian McCormick is the best basketball coaching resource there is and what he says really applies to all sports. His books are totally worth it and he's also an interesting Twitter follow.
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2022, 05:30:57 AM
Any elite kid sports coaches with recommendations /tips/resources about teaching kids to stop shooting a two handed push shot and start to shoot a basketball properly?Also what age and goal/ball are we talking here? If the league is third graders with a 10 foot goal I'd probably skip shooting form because they just aren't strong enough. If it's just a kid at home lower the goal and do a smaller ball and do one hand shooting really close to the basket to get started.
but if kids continue to play they generally seem to transition to proper form as they get stronger and taller.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 08, 2022, 08:33:07 AM
Thanks for the tips, folks.Any elite kid sports coaches with recommendations /tips/resources about teaching kids to stop shooting a two handed push shot and start to shoot a basketball properly?Also what age and goal/ball are we talking here? If the league is third graders with a 10 foot goal I'd probably skip shooting form because they just aren't strong enough. If it's just a kid at home lower the goal and do a smaller ball and do one hand shooting really close to the basket to get started.
but if kids continue to play they generally seem to transition to proper form as they get stronger and taller.
I have a 9yo player. This is her first year to do organized b-ball. She seems pretty motivated to work on her skills (moreso than her older sibs who have migrated to other sports). They will play their games on 10' goals with the same ball that HS girls use. We have an adjustable goal at home.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 08, 2022, 09:06:35 AM
FYI I coach my daughters 6u team irl. Co-ed league but our team is all girls and mostly the younger sisters of lil sd’s baseball team boys. They are absolutely tough as crap and have dominated every team we’ve played so far, mostly all boys. Having older brothers is like doing 15 years of steroids for little girls.
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I can't tell you how many times I've watched a little kid dominate and then figured out who her family is in the stands, and yep, she has an older bro.
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Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2022, 09:20:27 AM
Thanks for the tips, folks.Any elite kid sports coaches with recommendations /tips/resources about teaching kids to stop shooting a two handed push shot and start to shoot a basketball properly?Also what age and goal/ball are we talking here? If the league is third graders with a 10 foot goal I'd probably skip shooting form because they just aren't strong enough. If it's just a kid at home lower the goal and do a smaller ball and do one hand shooting really close to the basket to get started.
but if kids continue to play they generally seem to transition to proper form as they get stronger and taller.
I have a 9yo player. This is her first year to do organized b-ball. She seems pretty motivated to work on her skills (moreso than her older sibs who have migrated to other sports). They will play their games on 10' goals with the same ball that HS girls use. We have an adjustable goal at home.
it sounds like you're not coaching, but I would focus on layups and dribbling at that age (and defense against dribbling). As soon as you can try to get her dribbling with two balls - different sized balls is great! Between the legs and behind the back are essential skills (and not showboating like some small town KS coaches might think) and can also be done with two balls which is a fun skill.
if you need a drill, something like this is fantastic (don't spend much time doing layup lines or stressing about form IMO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RFDFy3o5rM
as are things like tag dribbling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G97jXWXi71k
and you can do a lot of variations of tag. I will echo the small-sided games comments: do 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 far more than 5v5. And any time you aren't doing some sort of scrimmage have as many kids either moving with a ball or defending someone with a ball as possible
Post by: husserl on December 08, 2022, 09:32:00 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 08, 2022, 09:33:19 AM
my experience is most youth games are a basically a prison rules with few fouls called so you want you players to take shots they can make with zero hesitation.
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2022, 09:40:22 AM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 08, 2022, 09:41:44 AM
The true worst part of coaching kids sportsdownside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Post by: Skipper44 on December 08, 2022, 09:45:10 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2022, 10:14:47 AM
also be honest with yourself on if coaching your own kid is best for your kid - it probably was not the best thing for me to coach my youngest
might as well try
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Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2022, 10:43:44 AM
For the last year or so I coached my kid's Y team. Lots of fun! But a few months ago we decided to play him up a year in a more advanced program where the head coach was already set. I'm assistant coaching but walking the tightrope between supporting the head coach and trying to influence practice design for the better has been a struggle. This past weekend dude implemented a new offense during the 3 minute pre-game warm up. They're in 3rd grade :flush:
oh lord. that sounds miserable
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 09, 2022, 08:30:57 AM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Been coaching 5th grade girls soccer since they were in Kinder. I never played soccer and my knowledge before coaching was basically "don't use your hands". It's one of my favorite parts of my life. In the fall we went 5-3 and they worked their butts off. My daughter could totally go "competitive" but we're waiting another year to do that and sticking with rec until middle school.
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Post by: steve dave on December 09, 2022, 09:14:14 AM
Pro tip: just because someone played a sport does not mean they can coach it worth a crapI know
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Post by: michigancat on December 09, 2022, 10:00:56 AM
My daughters basketball team are playing softball this spring together. Trying to find someone to coach them. No former softball players in the mom group. Trying to find a mom to latch onto that A) lives close and B) may be planning to coach one of our clubs competitive teams when her daughter is old enough in a couple years. It’s so strange doing stuff like this. But, we realized how much of it was happening when my son started playing competitive baseball and where we had missed opportunities the couple years before that. Thankfully my other basketball coach/mom played college volleyball and already works with one of our competitive volleyball programs and we’re latching into her for that. Not sure what sports my daughter will decide she actually likes (soccer eliminated this year) but trying to give her the best opportunities until she does. Not sure if this crap is healthy or not (probably not).
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What's the end goal?
Post by: Justwin on December 09, 2022, 10:51:06 AM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Been coaching 5th grade girls soccer since they were in Kinder. I never played soccer and my knowledge before coaching was basically "don't use your hands". It's one of my favorite parts of my life. In the fall we went 5-3 and they worked their butts off. My daughter could totally go "competitive" but we're waiting another year to do that and sticking with rec until middle school.
What is your goal such that you would go competitive in middle school, but not now? I understand why you would rather have it be more relaxed now, but what is the goal in going competitive?
Post by: steve dave on December 09, 2022, 10:55:45 AM
My daughters basketball team are playing softball this spring together. Trying to find someone to coach them. No former softball players in the mom group. Trying to find a mom to latch onto that A) lives close and B) may be planning to coach one of our clubs competitive teams when her daughter is old enough in a couple years. It’s so strange doing stuff like this. But, we realized how much of it was happening when my son started playing competitive baseball and where we had missed opportunities the couple years before that. Thankfully my other basketball coach/mom played college volleyball and already works with one of our competitive volleyball programs and we’re latching into her for that. Not sure what sports my daughter will decide she actually likes (soccer eliminated this year) but trying to give her the best opportunities until she does. Not sure if this crap is healthy or not (probably not).
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What's the end goal?
give her the best opportunity to be the best and keep up with her friends at what she decides she likes the most. I should note we don't push her to do anything. we ask her if she wants to do something and she asks which of her friends are doing it and we tell her and she says yes or no. she just told us she doesn't want to do soccer again and we are not signing up for that again.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 09, 2022, 11:04:28 AM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Been coaching 5th grade girls soccer since they were in Kinder. I never played soccer and my knowledge before coaching was basically "don't use your hands". It's one of my favorite parts of my life. In the fall we went 5-3 and they worked their butts off. My daughter could totally go "competitive" but we're waiting another year to do that and sticking with rec until middle school.
What is your goal such that you would go competitive in middle school, but not now? I understand why you would rather have it be more relaxed now, but what is the goal in going competitive?
Kind of weird question.
Let her play on better team against better competition. I don't look at playing sports as something with a "goal" at the end (play in HS or college etc) but we as a family look at the value of learning to compete, be a teammate, be active etc. I watch folks who start travel sports and whatnot at a young age and it's just not for us. But if daughter really likes soccer as a 7th or 8th grader I'm fine letting her try to get on a good team that plays more games with more coaching etc. This year a lot of her old team went "competitive" and my daughter is the best player left, some of the games were frustrating to have her not playing on team with similar skill from other teammates.
For our family dedicating entire weekends and thousands of dollars to travel ball and junk is not for us, at least yet.
Post by: nicname on December 09, 2022, 11:23:43 AM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Been coaching 5th grade girls soccer since they were in Kinder. I never played soccer and my knowledge before coaching was basically "don't use your hands". It's one of my favorite parts of my life. In the fall we went 5-3 and they worked their butts off. My daughter could totally go "competitive" but we're waiting another year to do that and sticking with rec until middle school.
What is your goal such that you would go competitive in middle school, but not now? I understand why you would rather have it be more relaxed now, but what is the goal in going competitive?
Kind of weird question.
Let her play on better team against better competition. I don't look at playing sports as something with a "goal" at the end (play in HS or college etc) but we as a family look at the value of learning to compete, be a teammate, be active etc. I watch folks who start travel sports and whatnot at a young age and it's just not for us. But if daughter really likes soccer as a 7th or 8th grader I'm fine letting her try to get on a good team that plays more games with more coaching etc. This year a lot of her old team went "competitive" and my daughter is the best player left, some of the games were frustrating to have her not playing on team with similar skill from other teammates.
For our family dedicating entire weekends and thousands of dollars to travel ball and junk is not for us, at least yet.
There is the rub.
The youth sports industrial complex is creating a generation of kids who are either highly trained, and often specialized, or just don’t play altogether because the quality and participation in “rec” sports just isn’t there.
Imo, the goal of youth sports should be to keep as many kids active and enjoying as many sports as possible for as long as possible.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
Post by: Justwin on December 09, 2022, 11:30:40 AM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Been coaching 5th grade girls soccer since they were in Kinder. I never played soccer and my knowledge before coaching was basically "don't use your hands". It's one of my favorite parts of my life. In the fall we went 5-3 and they worked their butts off. My daughter could totally go "competitive" but we're waiting another year to do that and sticking with rec until middle school.
What is your goal such that you would go competitive in middle school, but not now? I understand why you would rather have it be more relaxed now, but what is the goal in going competitive?
Kind of weird question.
Let her play on better team against better competition. I don't look at playing sports as something with a "goal" at the end (play in HS or college etc) but we as a family look at the value of learning to compete, be a teammate, be active etc. I watch folks who start travel sports and whatnot at a young age and it's just not for us. But if daughter really likes soccer as a 7th or 8th grader I'm fine letting her try to get on a good team that plays more games with more coaching etc. This year a lot of her old team went "competitive" and my daughter is the best player left, some of the games were frustrating to have her not playing on team with similar skill from other teammates.
For our family dedicating entire weekends and thousands of dollars to travel ball and junk is not for us, at least yet.
I understand just wanting to compete and not have a goal. I coach my daughter's U14 Girls team that won Division 2 of Heartland League in Kansas City (cross-post stud things thread). We will likely play Division 1 in the spring. It's a pretty remarkable accomplishment for a team from Manhattan. We homeschool, so my daughter won't be playing high school soccer and likely isn't going to try to play any college soccer, but we still like to see how high of a level she can play.
If you wait until 7th or 8th grade, you will be limiting the level your daughter is able to play at and the kind of team she is able to make at tryouts. Yes, there is catching up with the coaching and higher-level competition, but it takes a number of years to make up that gap. We had a girl that moved here from Utah and had never played soccer above a rec level. It has taken her a full year to really get up to speed with the rest of the girls and there are still some things where she can't play as intuitively as other girls. She was kind of lucky in moving to a place like Manhattan, because she was able to get on a high level team due to there not being many girls that tryout. If she had been somewhere like Kansas City, she would have been relegated to a much lower level team and not have developed nearly as much.
I'm not going to say you're making a mistake in waiting. I realize there are tradeoffs for everything and premier soccer can come with a large commitment of time and money. I'm just trying to give you a perspective of a coach and parent that would gently encourage you to consider playing competitive soccer sooner rather than later. I think it will give your daughter more of an opportunity to see what her ceiling is in terms of hitting her potential.
Post by: nicname on December 09, 2022, 11:32:56 AM
Step 1: Make sure to identify and scoop up the true talent, and get them in your program ASAP and however you need to. These are often underprivileged kids, but also kids with both parents being former collegiate athletes themselves.
Step 2: fill out your rosters and training sessions with anyone who is willing to pay.
Step 3: When the kids from step one start getting those scholarships, etc., use that as your selling point to all the suburban parents with all the money.
Step 4: Rinse, repeat and profit.
What you don’t tell them is the truth, that the kids getting scholarships and moving on to higher and higher levels were going to be doing that anyway once they got into school sports.
Post by: Justwin on December 09, 2022, 11:35:29 AM
If you have the ability, it’s not hard to make a really good living coaching youth sports or running a program/training center.
Step 1: Make sure to identify and scoop up the true talent, and get them in your program ASAP and however you need to. These are often underprivileged kids, but also kids with both parents being former collegiate athletes themselves.
Step 2: fill out your rosters and training sessions with anyone who is willing to pay.
Step 3: When the kids from step one start getting those scholarships, etc., use that as your selling point to all the suburban parents with all the money.
Step 4: Rinse, repeat and profit.
What you don’t tell them is the truth, that the kids getting scholarships and moving on to higher and higher levels were going to be doing that anyway once they got into school sports.
You can believe this if you want, but I don't think that is true. Some would, but some wouldn't.
Post by: steve dave on December 09, 2022, 11:44:32 AM
I coach my daughter's U14 Girls team that won Division 2 of Heartland League in Kansas City (cross-post stud things thread).
HELL YEAH!
Post by: nicname on December 09, 2022, 11:47:30 AM
If you have the ability, it’s not hard to make a really good living coaching youth sports or running a program/training center.
Step 1: Make sure to identify and scoop up the true talent, and get them in your program ASAP and however you need to. These are often underprivileged kids, but also kids with both parents being former collegiate athletes themselves.
Step 2: fill out your rosters and training sessions with anyone who is willing to pay.
Step 3: When the kids from step one start getting those scholarships, etc., use that as your selling point to all the suburban parents with all the money.
Step 4: Rinse, repeat and profit.
What you don’t tell them is the truth, that the kids getting scholarships and moving on to higher and higher levels were going to be doing that anyway once they got into school sports.
You can believe this if you want, but I don't think that is true. Some would, but some wouldn't.
What I’m saying is that the kids that are actually elite are going to make it anyway. They’re going to get the needed training and coaching anyway.
You’re absolutely right though, that untrained kids will continue to have a harder and harder time even making high school and even middle school teams.
The net result is fewer kids sticking with sports and gaining all the valuables that come from experience, but the highly-trained select few that remain being more skilled and competitive.
Post by: steve dave on December 09, 2022, 11:56:43 AM
Post by: nicname on December 09, 2022, 12:20:22 PM
Post by: Justwin on December 09, 2022, 12:32:21 PM
@Justwin I’d probably do the same as you, and have. I’m not questioning your parenting. I’m questioning the system and the trade-offs surrounding it.
I question the system a lot, too. In youth soccer I think there are a lot of problems with the number of kids that play lower-level competitive soccer. They would be better off just playing recreational soccer, but their parents love the idea that their kid plays on a competitive team. Heartland Soccer has 11 divisions in some age groups with 9-11 teams in each division. If you are playing in Division 5 or lower, you should really be asking why you are playing competitive soccer. If you are playing in Division 8 or lower (and are not moving up each season), you should not be playing competitive soccer.
Post by: michigancat on December 09, 2022, 12:44:36 PM
And there are 11??? It almost seems like rec isn't much of an option.
My kids soccer until like 3rd grade when "Rec" honestly became too competitive. For basketball, their "rec" league had kids that played AAU year round. It was a mess.
Post by: Kat Kid on December 09, 2022, 12:47:27 PM
@Justwin I’d probably do the same as you, and have. I’m not questioning your parenting. I’m questioning the system and the trade-offs surrounding it.
I question the system a lot, too. In youth soccer I think there are a lot of problems with the number of kids that play lower-level competitive soccer. They would be better off just playing recreational soccer, but their parents love the idea that their kid plays on a competitive team. Heartland Soccer has 11 divisions in some age groups with 9-11 teams in each division. If you are playing in Division 5 or lower, you should really be asking why you are playing competitive soccer. If you are playing in Division 8 or lower (and are not moving up each season), you should not be playing competitive soccer.
I have no idea what Division my kid is in but the better coaching was for sure the reason we left rec. I didn't want to coach and the level of coaching was really bad and my kid was the best kid in the rec league, he is average on his premier league team and is pretty far behind the better kids in terms of skill and touch. I thought it would be more of a pain in the fall, but it ended up being pretty fun and I like it now and think it is worth it.
Post by: michigancat on December 09, 2022, 12:49:19 PM
Post by: nicname on December 09, 2022, 12:49:48 PM
@Justwin I’d probably do the same as you, and have. I’m not questioning your parenting. I’m questioning the system and the trade-offs surrounding it.
I question the system a lot, too. In youth soccer I think there are a lot of problems with the number of kids that play lower-level competitive soccer. They would be better off just playing recreational soccer, but their parents love the idea that their kid plays on a competitive team. Heartland Soccer has 11 divisions in some age groups with 9-11 teams in each division. If you are playing in Division 5 or lower, you should really be asking why you are playing competitive soccer. If you are playing in Division 8 or lower (and are not moving up each season), you should not be playing competitive soccer.
Right on.
A buddy and I took our kids out of rec basketball after 3rd/4th grade because we saw how little the participation was for 5th and 6th graders. It was a good experience for the 10 that joined our new team (there wasn’t a local club to join), but definitely some guilt associated with contributing to the problem, especially when I’d see a kid that I’d helped coach and seemed to really enjoy playing and being part of a team — only to find out they weren’t playing at all anymore.
There is a program in Indiana where a lot of schools are fielding school teams starting in 5th grade. They have “A,” “B” and sometime “C” teams and are coached by teachers, parents and volunteers. They use school time/facilities for practice and games, just like JR High and HS. It’s pretty cool, because they keep participation high and allow all the kids to develop at their appropriate level.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 09, 2022, 01:11:54 PM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Been coaching 5th grade girls soccer since they were in Kinder. I never played soccer and my knowledge before coaching was basically "don't use your hands". It's one of my favorite parts of my life. In the fall we went 5-3 and they worked their butts off. My daughter could totally go "competitive" but we're waiting another year to do that and sticking with rec until middle school.
What is your goal such that you would go competitive in middle school, but not now? I understand why you would rather have it be more relaxed now, but what is the goal in going competitive?
Kind of weird question.
Let her play on better team against better competition. I don't look at playing sports as something with a "goal" at the end (play in HS or college etc) but we as a family look at the value of learning to compete, be a teammate, be active etc. I watch folks who start travel sports and whatnot at a young age and it's just not for us. But if daughter really likes soccer as a 7th or 8th grader I'm fine letting her try to get on a good team that plays more games with more coaching etc. This year a lot of her old team went "competitive" and my daughter is the best player left, some of the games were frustrating to have her not playing on team with similar skill from other teammates.
For our family dedicating entire weekends and thousands of dollars to travel ball and junk is not for us, at least yet.
I understand just wanting to compete and not have a goal. I coach my daughter's U14 Girls team that won Division 2 of Heartland League in Kansas City (cross-post stud things thread). We will likely play Division 1 in the spring. It's a pretty remarkable accomplishment for a team from Manhattan. We homeschool, so my daughter won't be playing high school soccer and likely isn't going to try to play any college soccer, but we still like to see how high of a level she can play.
If you wait until 7th or 8th grade, you will be limiting the level your daughter is able to play at and the kind of team she is able to make at tryouts. Yes, there is catching up with the coaching and higher-level competition, but it takes a number of years to make up that gap. We had a girl that moved here from Utah and had never played soccer above a rec level. It has taken her a full year to really get up to speed with the rest of the girls and there are still some things where she can't play as intuitively as other girls. She was kind of lucky in moving to a place like Manhattan, because she was able to get on a high level team due to there not being many girls that tryout. If she had been somewhere like Kansas City, she would have been relegated to a much lower level team and not have developed nearly as much.
I'm not going to say you're making a mistake in waiting. I realize there are tradeoffs for everything and premier soccer can come with a large commitment of time and money. I'm just trying to give you a perspective of a coach and parent that would gently encourage you to consider playing competitive soccer sooner rather than later. I think it will give your daughter more of an opportunity to see what her ceiling is in terms of hitting her potential.
That's fine with us. This particular kiddo does piano and basketball too. That's plenty for her age. If the price is she's on a lower division team when she's 14, that's fine.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 09, 2022, 01:17:15 PM
downside to reading McCormick is that a lot of youth coaches will tend to drive you insaneYes the solution is to coach yourself
Which leads to parents driving you insane
Been coaching 5th grade girls soccer since they were in Kinder. I never played soccer and my knowledge before coaching was basically "don't use your hands". It's one of my favorite parts of my life. In the fall we went 5-3 and they worked their butts off. My daughter could totally go "competitive" but we're waiting another year to do that and sticking with rec until middle school.
What is your goal such that you would go competitive in middle school, but not now? I understand why you would rather have it be more relaxed now, but what is the goal in going competitive?
Kind of weird question.
Let her play on better team against better competition. I don't look at playing sports as something with a "goal" at the end (play in HS or college etc) but we as a family look at the value of learning to compete, be a teammate, be active etc. I watch folks who start travel sports and whatnot at a young age and it's just not for us. But if daughter really likes soccer as a 7th or 8th grader I'm fine letting her try to get on a good team that plays more games with more coaching etc. This year a lot of her old team went "competitive" and my daughter is the best player left, some of the games were frustrating to have her not playing on team with similar skill from other teammates.
For our family dedicating entire weekends and thousands of dollars to travel ball and junk is not for us, at least yet.
There is the rub.
The youth sports industrial complex is creating a generation of kids who are either highly trained, and often specialized, or just don’t play altogether because the quality and participation in “rec” sports just isn’t there.
Imo, the goal of youth sports should be to keep as many kids active and enjoying as many sports as possible for as long as possible.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
Totally agree.
Post by: Justwin on December 11, 2022, 12:44:23 PM
when you say "divisions" is that like tiers?
And there are 11??? It almost seems like rec isn't much of an option.
My kids soccer until like 3rd grade when "Rec" honestly became too competitive. For basketball, their "rec" league had kids that played AAU year round. It was a mess.
Each division is typically 9 teams and those are the teams you play for your 8 league games each season. There is promotion and relegation between the divisions, so it is like the English soccer pyramid.
There are 11 Premier divisions. There are also some Rec divisions. Heartland Soccer is the largest youth soccer league in the country. There are over 30,000 players each season. There are teams from Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa and Arkansas in the league. At tournaments in Kansas City, we have played teams from those states plus South Dakota, Minnesota, Illinois and Oklahoma. I have seen teams in other divisions at tournaments from Texas, Arizona and Colorado. There are also probably teams from some other states, but I haven't seen them.
Post by: Justwin on December 11, 2022, 12:45:35 PM
@Justwin I’d probably do the same as you, and have. I’m not questioning your parenting. I’m questioning the system and the trade-offs surrounding it.
I question the system a lot, too. In youth soccer I think there are a lot of problems with the number of kids that play lower-level competitive soccer. They would be better off just playing recreational soccer, but their parents love the idea that their kid plays on a competitive team. Heartland Soccer has 11 divisions in some age groups with 9-11 teams in each division. If you are playing in Division 5 or lower, you should really be asking why you are playing competitive soccer. If you are playing in Division 8 or lower (and are not moving up each season), you should not be playing competitive soccer.
I have no idea what Division my kid is in but the better coaching was for sure the reason we left rec. I didn't want to coach and the level of coaching was really bad and my kid was the best kid in the rec league, he is average on his premier league team and is pretty far behind the better kids in terms of skill and touch. I thought it would be more of a pain in the fall, but it ended up being pretty fun and I like it now and think it is worth it.
Does your son play with Puma or SKV?
Post by: Kat Kid on December 11, 2022, 02:56:27 PM
@Justwin I’d probably do the same as you, and have. I’m not questioning your parenting. I’m questioning the system and the trade-offs surrounding it.
I question the system a lot, too. In youth soccer I think there are a lot of problems with the number of kids that play lower-level competitive soccer. They would be better off just playing recreational soccer, but their parents love the idea that their kid plays on a competitive team. Heartland Soccer has 11 divisions in some age groups with 9-11 teams in each division. If you are playing in Division 5 or lower, you should really be asking why you are playing competitive soccer. If you are playing in Division 8 or lower (and are not moving up each season), you should not be playing competitive soccer.
I have no idea what Division my kid is in but the better coaching was for sure the reason we left rec. I didn't want to coach and the level of coaching was really bad and my kid was the best kid in the rec league, he is average on his premier league team and is pretty far behind the better kids in terms of skill and touch. I thought it would be more of a pain in the fall, but it ended up being pretty fun and I like it now and think it is worth it.
Does your son play with Puma or SKV?
Puma
Post by: Justwin on December 13, 2022, 04:49:23 PM
@Justwin I’d probably do the same as you, and have. I’m not questioning your parenting. I’m questioning the system and the trade-offs surrounding it.
I question the system a lot, too. In youth soccer I think there are a lot of problems with the number of kids that play lower-level competitive soccer. They would be better off just playing recreational soccer, but their parents love the idea that their kid plays on a competitive team. Heartland Soccer has 11 divisions in some age groups with 9-11 teams in each division. If you are playing in Division 5 or lower, you should really be asking why you are playing competitive soccer. If you are playing in Division 8 or lower (and are not moving up each season), you should not be playing competitive soccer.
I have no idea what Division my kid is in but the better coaching was for sure the reason we left rec. I didn't want to coach and the level of coaching was really bad and my kid was the best kid in the rec league, he is average on his premier league team and is pretty far behind the better kids in terms of skill and touch. I thought it would be more of a pain in the fall, but it ended up being pretty fun and I like it now and think it is worth it.
Does your son play with Puma or SKV?
Puma
I would encourage you to learn what division his team is playing in and what levels of teams are available at other clubs.
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2022, 07:23:19 PM
I had the same coach for baseball and basketball from like 2nd-8th grade and he was great. This was basically rec league with some minor travel tournaments thrown in, he would always get some local company to sponsor our uniforms and did all of the coaching. (I still buy Art's Mexican Products at the grocery store because they were our sponsor for a couple of years)
3 Years ago I ran into him on the Vegas strip of all places and this conversation ensued
Ben Ji "Coach, hows it going! Cant remember the last time I saw you"
Coach "I know exactly, you made 2 free throws with no time left to send the championship game into overtime" (8th grade)
I had kind of forgotten about that game but definitely walked around with my chest sticking out the rest of the day. I'm also glad that he got that much satisfaction out of it that he still remembered it 15 years later.
Rick Reynolds was his name and he was a great coach growing up. Hope all of you coaches out there can have the same impact on these baby zoomers growing up.
Post by: steve dave on December 13, 2022, 08:36:45 PM
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 14, 2022, 09:19:18 AM
Just want to give a shout out to all of the kids team coaches here. When you are growing up as a kid you never really think about the extra time/BS your coach has to put up with.That's pretty cool. When I was in middle school (we called it Junior High in those days), I had the same coach for FB, BB and track both years. Coach also taught most of my 7th grade classes at Tinytown Junior High but he was just there because he liked coaching. He would talk with us about all sorts of stuff that happened to him in life and sports. He played a big role in my love for sports. He died from cancer a few years ago.
I had the same coach for baseball and basketball from like 2nd-8th grade and he was great. This was basically rec league with some minor travel tournaments thrown in, he would always get some local company to sponsor our uniforms and did all of the coaching. (I still buy Art's Mexican Products at the grocery store because they were our sponsor for a couple of years)
3 Years ago I ran into him on the Vegas strip of all places and this conversation ensued
Ben Ji "Coach, hows it going! Cant remember the last time I saw you"
Coach "I know exactly, you made 2 free throws with no time left to send the championship game into overtime" (8th grade)
I had kind of forgotten about that game but definitely walked around with my chest sticking out the rest of the day. I'm also glad that he got that much satisfaction out of it that he still remembered it 15 years later.
Rick Reynolds was his name and he was a great coach growing up. Hope all of you coaches out there can have the same impact on these baby zoomers growing up.
Before last month, I had always avoided coaching any of my kids' sports. The coach for my daughter's bball team (has tons of experience coaching BBall, volleyball and softball) asked me to be her assistant because she thought it would be good to have a male assistant (I don't know why she thought that). It has been a lot of fun so far and hopefully I haven't confused anyone too badly with my occasional teaching during drills / games.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 21, 2023, 07:44:01 PM
Props to all of you who are head coaches and do this stuff on a regular basis.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2023, 08:55:16 PM
Post by: steve dave on January 21, 2023, 08:58:51 PM
My 3 year old started basketball today. It's 2 months of skill building practice. The first 15 minutes of dribbling made me rethink all my life choices and he knows how to dribble. Chest passes, shooting, and defense were on point though.
we had our first session game today for our 6Us. crap IS WILD THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT!? but irl we are working at catching the ball/rebound with our hands and not our face/body.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2023, 10:07:36 PM
My 3 year old started basketball today. It's 2 months of skill building practice. The first 15 minutes of dribbling made me rethink all my life choices and he knows how to dribble. Chest passes, shooting, and defense were on point though.
we had our first session game today for our 6Us. crap IS WILD THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT!? but irl we are working at catching the ball/rebound with our hands and not our face/body.
He did 3 year old basketball, soccer, and t ball this year. I really don't believe in youth sports for kids this age but we gotta get this dude out of the house and in organized activities as much as we can, otherwise he'll tear the house up, he's got way too much chaotic energy. We literally call him mayhem.
I don't know if I can do 10 more years of this though, with these sports, it was way less stressful with the girls.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2023, 10:42:50 PM
Just want to give a shout out to all of the kids team coaches here. When you are growing up as a kid you never really think about the extra time/BS your coach has to put up with.
I had the same coach for baseball and basketball from like 2nd-8th grade and he was great. This was basically rec league with some minor travel tournaments thrown in, he would always get some local company to sponsor our uniforms and did all of the coaching. (I still buy Art's Mexican Products at the grocery store because they were our sponsor for a couple of years)
3 Years ago I ran into him on the Vegas strip of all places and this conversation ensued
Ben Ji "Coach, hows it going! Cant remember the last time I saw you"
Coach "I know exactly, you made 2 free throws with no time left to send the championship game into overtime" (8th grade)
I had kind of forgotten about that game but definitely walked around with my chest sticking out the rest of the day. I'm also glad that he got that much satisfaction out of it that he still remembered it 15 years later.
Rick Reynolds was his name and he was a great coach growing up. Hope all of you coaches out there can have the same impact on these baby zoomers growing up.
BIG fan of art's corn chips
Post by: Cire on January 23, 2023, 10:00:51 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 23, 2023, 07:07:39 PM
in non competitive sports news, BOTH of my daughters won bball games and EACH made a free throw this weekend :horrorsurprise:awesome
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Post by: michigancat on February 05, 2023, 08:30:38 PM
Any of you dudes play intertube water polo at the nat back in the day? I couldn't imagine doing that without something to help you float.I did not but I think my parents did. It's really crazy how exhausting the sport must be. (I can not tread water by eggbeater-ing so I can't really say how exhausting it is.)
They took the club to see Stanford women play and holy crap that's a level of Georgia football vs TCU intensity. I think they had 3 Olympians on the team and were up 13-2 in the 4th and still eating faces. An intimidating joy to watch.
Post by: steve dave on February 09, 2023, 07:51:14 PM
my daughter (6 yo) is now hardcore into "tumbling" which I believe is a mix of gymnastics and cheerleading. so, because it's kinda both, we now do BOTH. she's in a weekly class with a club that does "tumbling" but the place is cheerleading? and we do another one with an actual gymnastics one that does like floor and bar and all that normal olympic stuff. so obviously we now have personal lessons set up with them both ($80 an hour). I just spent $700 on a "rolly" and a "cheese" and a "mat". The mat is a mat. the roly is a big hexogon tube thing. the "cheese" is a wedge mat thing. it's less expensive than baseball anyway.omg
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Katdaddy no! Those also look like they could be used for sexy time with the Mrs. :fatty:
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Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2023, 05:45:41 AM
We’re playing in a classic NE spring 25 degree 10u baseball tournament and check out the frame my ace just tossed
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He struck out 9 in a row and then gave up a walk and got yanked?!
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 02, 2023, 09:11:43 AM
Also I've been following women's college water polo this season and it's such a great wild sport. I kind of want to start a thread about it because there is not much discussion of it anywhere (somewhat understandable)
I knew you had a daughter playing water polo. I know you live in New York. When you discussed this before, in my mind y'all were still in California. Water Polo in the northeast blows my mind.
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2023, 10:04:52 AM
Also I've been following women's college water polo this season and it's such a great wild sport. I kind of want to start a thread about it because there is not much discussion of it anywhere (somewhat understandable)
I knew you had a daughter playing water polo. I know you live in New York. When you discussed this before, in my mind y'all were still in California. Water Polo in the northeast blows my mind.
It's a pretty popular high school sport in Pennsylvania, and a lot of the New England boarding schools have it as well as Greenwich, CT, but that's about it for schools which makes solid clubs kind of difficult. (Outside of Greenwich which is just an insane place - they have a ton of resources and are always easily the best club outside of California.) Last summer my daughter played on a "super" club team with girls from Connecticut, Maryland, and all states between. She'll be doing the same with a different club this summer as most of that team aged up but she didn't.
On the college side in the northeast, the MAAC has a pretty fun lower-tier water polo conference and the CWPA has Princeton, Brown, Harvard, and Michigan. Indiana used to be in that conference but moved to the MPSF which is all California schools + ASU. Seems dumb by them but maybe it helps recruit California kids? But I think they had to make 7 west coast trips this season. Fun fact is the best D3 team, Pomona-Pitzer (which is two colleges combined) is ranked in the Division 1 top 25 and actually beat Indiana this season.
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Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2023, 08:01:47 AM
I will be driving to New Haven, CT for two water polo games todayUpdate, it was a classic northeast water polo weekend.
There were 3 clubs, 2 of which my daughter had played with and she knew someone on the third. Neither of her 2 clubs had goalies so field players took turns. It was a shallow/deep pool which means the goal in the shallow end is a lot taller and if you use the floor of the pool to make a play it's a penalty - my daughter had a gorgeous play where she flew out of the water for a goal and the dumb ref thought she pushed off the floor and her coach had to be calmed down lol.
Game 1 my daughter's 16u team played a club with her 18u friends (including a D1 signee) and won by like 4. The second game had two of her 18u friends she played against in game 1 switched to play with the second club to make it more competitive. My daughter won 15-5 and my daughter got a quarter in goal! Her coach was encouraging her to practice half court shots and had some pretty great goals doing it. All in all good times.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 03, 2023, 11:09:06 AM
It was a shallow/deep pool which means the goal in the shallow end is a lot taller and if you use the floor of the pool to make a play it's a penalty - my daughter had a gorgeous play where she flew out of the water for a goal and the dumb ref thought she pushed off the floor and her coach had to be calmed down lol.
This sounds infuriating as almost any enforcement seems like a guess.
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
It happened way less than you might expect. I think I saw it called 3 or 4 times in 2 games. My daughter practices in a shallow/deep pool so she's kinda used to it. There is plenty more that goes on in the water that refs miss all the time so that judgement call isn't much of an issue, it's just an interesting rule.It was a shallow/deep pool which means the goal in the shallow end is a lot taller and if you use the floor of the pool to make a play it's a penalty - my daughter had a gorgeous play where she flew out of the water for a goal and the dumb ref thought she pushed off the floor and her coach had to be calmed down lol.
This sounds infuriating as almost any enforcement seems like a guess.
Post by: Spracne on April 03, 2023, 12:15:07 PM
It happened way less than you might expect. I think I saw it called 3 or 4 times in 2 games. My daughter practices in a shallow/deep pool so she's kinda used to it. There is plenty more that goes on in the water that refs miss all the time so that judgement call isn't much of an issue, it's just an interesting rule.It was a shallow/deep pool which means the goal in the shallow end is a lot taller and if you use the floor of the pool to make a play it's a penalty - my daughter had a gorgeous play where she flew out of the water for a goal and the dumb ref thought she pushed off the floor and her coach had to be calmed down lol.
This sounds infuriating as almost any enforcement seems like a guess.
The underwater cameras in the Olympics made water polo really entertaining to watch.
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Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2023, 03:32:50 PM
Our blues are almost all like HS age kids (really nice, eff up calls all day, don’t know all the rules) or old retired guys (really mean, eff up calls all day, know all the rules). I give the kids a lot of grace and never argue calls. I give the old guys a lot of grace and never argue calls but talk crap about them with the other coaches.This is the way
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But my favorite part is what parents scream from the stands. It's like 'RUN! RUN! GO! RUN! DON'T STOP!' Like, wtf, you thought they were going to stop?
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2023, 10:12:55 AM
2 of my kids are running school track this spring. It's kind of brutal to watch. We were there for 3 hours yesterday and there was about 90 seconds of action between them. They run the 200m and the 100m + the relays.
But my favorite part is what parents scream from the stands. It's like 'RUN! RUN! GO! RUN! DON'T STOP!' Like, wtf, you thought they were going to stop?
I remember playing youth baseball and one of the kids' mom would always yell "Get the lead out of your ass!" every time he was running the bases.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 12:43:15 PM
Our blues are almost all like HS age kids (really nice, eff up calls all day, don’t know all the rules) or old retired guys (really mean, eff up calls all day, know all the rules). I give the kids a lot of grace and never argue calls. I give the old guys a lot of grace and never argue calls but talk crap about them with the other coaches.
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decent umpires get moved off of little kid games really fast. anyone decent will be working 14u in no time because they are so short on umpires.
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2023, 12:44:38 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 12:46:21 PM
2 of my kids are running school track this spring. It's kind of brutal to watch. We were there for 3 hours yesterday and there was about 90 seconds of action between them. They run the 200m and the 100m + the relays.
But my favorite part is what parents scream from the stands. It's like 'RUN! RUN! GO! RUN! DON'T STOP!' Like, wtf, you thought they were going to stop?
The things parents yell at kid sporting events almost needs it's own thread. Also, it's amaze how few people know the rules of sports (specifically baseball). I was working a JV game (these kids are 16!) baseball game yesterday. I called time to clean the plate, the catcher asked me how many time outs each team gets per game.
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2023, 12:47:45 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
Umpire shortfall is v bad.
It's because parents at the 10u level or younger are completely insane, don't know basic rules, and treat officials like trash. So the kids who start working games at that level quit because they don't want the abuse. Parents at higher level games are way more chill and understand rules and stuff.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 12:49:13 PM
to be fair, baseball has some of the dumbest strangest rules of any sport in recorded history
And I love every dumb rule.
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2023, 12:52:30 PM
Umpire shortfall is v bad.
It's because parents at the 10u level or younger are completely insane, don't know basic rules, and treat officials like trash. So the kids who start working games at that level quit because they don't want the abuse. Parents at higher level games are way more chill and understand rules and stuff.
that's a really interesting dynamic. I went to my nephew's 12U or 14U games last summer and I was embarrassed for just about all the parents there.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 12:57:58 PM
Umpire shortfall is v bad.
It's because parents at the 10u level or younger are completely insane, don't know basic rules, and treat officials like trash. So the kids who start working games at that level quit because they don't want the abuse. Parents at higher level games are way more chill and understand rules and stuff.
that's a really interesting dynamic. I went to my nephew's 12U or 14U games last summer and I was embarrassed for just about all the parents there.
Completely anecdotal but in my observation, basketball is WAAAY worse than baseball.
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Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2023, 01:42:44 PM
I sat our three 9 and 10 yo catchers down at practice last night and tried to explain the dropped third strike rules and after like 7 minutes I was just like, “if you drop strike three tag the batter, if you can’t tag him throw to first, if you need to do anything different I’ll just yell at you what to do if you drop it before the pitch”to be fair, baseball has some of the dumbest strangest rules of any sport in recorded history
And I love every dumb rule.
One of them got all confused because at one point either I or a parent or something told them to just step on home plate an inning earlier so they tried that with an empty first and got really upset when that didn’t pay off for them. Not your fault little bro.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 01:47:41 PM
I sat our three 9 and 10 yo catchers down at practice last night and tried to explain the dropped third strike rules and after like 7 minutes I was just like, “if you drop strike three tag the batter, if you can’t tag him throw to first, if you need to do anything different I’ll just yell at you what to do if you drop it before the pitch”to be fair, baseball has some of the dumbest strangest rules of any sport in recorded history
And I love every dumb rule.
One of them got all confused because at one point either I or a parent or something told them to just step on home plate an inning earlier so they tried that with an empty first and got really upset when that didn’t pay off for them. Not your fault little bro.
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dropped 3rd strikes are amazing moments of exposing who does and doesn't know the rules.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 01:57:06 PM
lil sd gets called for catchers interference a lot. I always have to tell him to back up. Stick your glove out there and if you can touch the batters knee you are too close bro.
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i have complete trust in you as a coach, but that's gotta get cleaned up ASAP. You can get your hand broken.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 14, 2023, 02:37:59 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 14, 2023, 02:41:49 PM
2 of my kids are running school track this spring. It's kind of brutal to watch. We were there for 3 hours yesterday and there was about 90 seconds of action between them. They run the 200m and the 100m + the relays.
But my favorite part is what parents scream from the stands. It's like 'RUN! RUN! GO! RUN! DON'T STOP!' Like, wtf, you thought they were going to stop?
The things parents yell at kid sporting events almost needs it's own thread. Also, it's amaze how few people know the rules of sports (specifically baseball). I was working a JV game (these kids are 16!) baseball game yesterday. I called time to clean the plate, the catcher asked me how many time outs each team gets per game.
tbf, there are probably different tourneys these kids play in over summer like legion or aau that might have some time out limits
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
I went to my nephew's (10 years old) game and the umpire didn't show up so the league called in some 16 year old who got there as fast as he could, but the game was delayed about 30 minutes. The parents immediately being giving him crap over every call. It was infuriating to watch. I can't believe that kid showed up.
maybe I'm being high and mighty here but we'd send a parent to the parking lot for crap like that immediately. actually our own parents would regulate it before it got to the point of being a problem.
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Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2023, 09:08:01 PM
we tell our catchers that the first time they go out there they are supposed to introduce themselves to the blue and give them a fist and last pitch of the game they need to take off their helmets off and thank them for their work.This is the adult version of dabbing. So pure
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Post by: KST8FAN on May 29, 2023, 08:01:52 AM
https://www.yourbasin.com/news/uil-issues-probation-public-reprimand-of-mccamey/
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on June 01, 2023, 08:45:26 AM
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It’s a huge problem
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Post by: nicname on June 01, 2023, 11:18:57 AM
Our blue had to ask the scorekeeper what the count was multiple times last night and also his strike zone was way too low and I kicked his ass in the parking lot after the game for it (jk, I just told our pitcher to aim at the catchers shoes and told our scorekeeper to lie by 1 strike either way to benefit our team each time, like an adult)
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It always seems like the younger the umpire, the tighter and lower the strike zone.
1. They don’t yet understand the difference between youth baseball and baseball for teens and adults.
2. They aren’t used to the perspective of calling balls and strikes behind the plate.
As they gain experience the good umps open the strike zone and make kids swing the bat.
I think a good youth zone is top of the letters to the top of the knees, black on the inside and a few inches off the black on the outside, especially w/ two strikes.
The worst thing that can happen in youth ball is a walk-fest. If a player/team is going up there looking to walk unnecessarily, blue should expand the zone a bit and encourage swinging the bat. Nothing outlandish, it’s a judgement call.
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Old dudes have thick skin and don’t get rattled by shitty parents but they have terrible eye sight(mumped up strike zone) and reaction time for bang bang plays.
Calls are calls, I can live w/ them. A bad zone ruins the game for everyone.
One thing I like to do is ask home plate blue what his zone looks like. Most will tell you. The best will tell both coaches without being asked.
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Post by: nicname on June 21, 2023, 05:06:33 PM
My kid is #99. Has never seen a pitch he didn’t think he could hit, lmao. And at least two of those BBs were when he had the take sign.
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We have a couple of vlad Guerrero’ on our team. You guys are what? 11 or 12u now?
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Post by: nicname on June 21, 2023, 05:11:03 PM
10U
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Cherish it. Puberty starts to set in by 12u. Changes everything
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Post by: steve dave on June 21, 2023, 05:16:49 PM
#7 looks like he needs to not take so many strike 3sGUESS WHO HIS DAD IS!?
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 21, 2023, 05:17:32 PM
#7 looks like he needs to not take so many strike 3sGUESS WHO HIS DAD IS!?
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Eric Crouch
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Also guess who #3’s dad is!
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Alex Gordon's less talented brother
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Post by: nicname on June 21, 2023, 05:23:12 PM
Good kids, not here to drag them, obviously. GOING PRO IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN SPORTS.
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Seems odd imo. Most of the studs I know have at least one, and often two college athlete parents
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Post by: nicname on June 21, 2023, 05:32:29 PM
We’ve played 44 games and he has 114 PAs so far, so he takes a walk in 9% of our games and 3.5% of his PAs, lmao.
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That’s a TON of games. Nicname jr’s team played like 50 games in 11u and 12u combined. Granted, they should have played 15 or so more last season.
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So, yes but in different words
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We have really only forced one kid out, probably should have done a few more. There is a balance between having good parents and winning and we probably went too far to the good parents side.I’m worried we are leaning to far that direction this upcoming season but we had a couple pretty bad situations I’m glad to be rid of. We shall see.
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Post by: schreds21 on June 21, 2023, 06:52:06 PM
Has never seen a pitch he didn’t think he could hit, lmao.Lmao. My kid is same way. Still Coach pitch so no walks obviously. W/SO Ratio would look the same as it does now regardless. I will say, she does a good job of putting the bat on the ball but like most kids, she likes them in her eyes and that's an automatic ground out to first or second.
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Post by: steve dave on June 21, 2023, 07:58:16 PM
Has never seen a pitch he didn’t think he could hit, lmao.Lmao. My kid is same way. Still Coach pitch so no walks obviously. W/SO Ratio would look the same as it does now regardless. I will say, she does a good job of putting the bat on the ball but like most kids, she likes them in her eyes and that's an automatic ground out to first or second.
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yeah, lil sd rolls over or pops out way too much and gets mad about it. "well, that one was a foot above your head so incredible you even got the bat on it bro"
Post by: nicname on July 02, 2023, 07:15:22 PM
My baseball chatter game was just rounding into form.
Pulled off a “loadin and stridin, back of the baseball, yes yes no, yes yes yes, do a job whaddya say now 1-9” today.
Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2023, 07:36:21 PM
Always sad to see another season wrapping up.We finished this weekend too. So emotional about it. Obviously I coach too but, man, so much time and emotion invested. So excited for next season.
My baseball chatter game was just rounding into form.
Pulled off a “loadin and stridin, back of the baseball, yes yes no, yes yes yes, do a job whaddya say now 1-9” today.
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Post by: nicname on July 02, 2023, 07:50:20 PM
Highlight of the season is this kid who hasn’t hit over .200 in two seasons I’ve coached him.
Here is his last 15 games …
8-20, 1 2B, 12 R, 11 RBI, 8 BB, 6 K, 4 HBP, 3 ROE
.400 AVG, .450 SLG, .719 OBP, 1.169 OPS
Raised his average from .077 to .217 over that span. And finally got to play third base and was a vacuum
Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2023, 08:24:51 PM
lil sd is a catcher and is legitimately one of the best catchers we’ve played with or against this season. Threw out this many dudes. Threw 5 out in 3 games this tourney.
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Post by: nicname on July 02, 2023, 08:53:59 PM
What’s your option on snap throws? I think they’re ridiculous for the most part.
Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2023, 09:35:54 PM
lil sd will do the hand thing like he’s blowing the smoke from his revolver and then holster it when he shoots some kid. It’s so rough ridin' great. Crowd goes wild.
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Post by: steve dave on July 03, 2023, 07:15:22 AM
14u season ended today for us. Probably last season of travel baseball ever for me. Went out with a bang at the Cornbelt Classic in Dyersville,IA at the Field of Dreams.
I bet that was a cool event.
Post by: michigancat on July 03, 2023, 08:43:45 AM
So I connected our coach with my daughter's old Bay Area club coach and recruited 2 more players who joined us and helped a ton. Went 1-3 the rest of the way but all games were fairly competitive and considering no one on the team had ever met half the team before this weekend, it was pretty much a success.
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Post by: michigancat on July 03, 2023, 11:58:33 AM
Sounds more like a kid who grew up idolizing the Royals not the AstrosLol
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 07, 2023, 12:08:21 PM
Sounds more like a kid who grew up idolizing the Royals not the Astros
To be fair I feel like the immersive brand of cheating the astros used would be hard to replicate in little kid baseball.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 07, 2023, 12:09:24 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 07, 2023, 12:17:27 PM
Throwing out base stealers is one of the hardest skills to develop. Kudos to lil' SD
tell that to my right arm
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Throwing out base stealers is one of the hardest skills to develop. Kudos to lil' SD
tell that to my right arm
"tell that to my right arm"
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Throwing out base stealers is one of the hardest skills to develop. Kudos to lil' SD
tell that to my right arm
It’s a gift. So, you’re both right.
Post by: ChiComCat on July 07, 2023, 01:25:07 PM
I am now coaching/assistant coaching a 5th grade tackle football team, 7u girls basketball team, and 11u travel baseball team. I had one season to be a fan and I just rough ridin' blew it because I can't say no.
You're a glutton for punishment (not that the coaching itself sucks, it's the PITA parents)
Post by: nicname on July 07, 2023, 01:34:23 PM
I am now coaching/assistant coaching a 5th grade tackle football team, 7u girls basketball team, and 11u travel baseball team. I had one season to be a fan and I just rough ridin' blew it because I can't say no.
You're a glutton for punishment (not that the coaching itself sucks, it's the PITA parents)
In my experience assistant coaching enjoyment-to-frustration ratio is 80/20 head coach to parents. It’s obv all how you handle whatever comes your way tho.
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2023, 03:09:05 PM
my rankings of most fun stuff to coach:
1. football
2. little girl basketball
3. baseball
I bet baseball would be above my son's basketball if I coached that but not certain. baseball is just such a massive time commitment. absolute grind of a season and all year practice is really wearing on me. it's the most "rewarding" to me thinking about it but also just grueling. also it seems like you have way more parent issues in baseball than other sports. maybe that's just my personal experience. mama bear needs to get baby bear on the mound more! why does baby bear bat 8th? all that crap. also the "rewarding" could just be because of all the time we spend together doing it? not sure.
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Post by: Daddy Claxton on October 27, 2023, 10:20:27 AM
we finished our 5th grade football season with a record of 5-3. didn't win any trophies but outscored our opponents 130-37 so we definitely feel like we belong. almost all of our kids were tackle for the first time and a lot of the other teams had played multiple seasons. I helped coach it and it was so much fun guys. way more intense than baseball but much less of a grind. we play in a league of Omaha metro and suburbs schools all affiliated with the high schools so it's like Jr. Mustangs, Jr. Wildcats, etc. Our HS had a game where they got all of our kids onto the field for the HS kids warmups and did a big thing for them. pretty sweet. lil sd plays mostly safety and fullback but comes down to LB sometimes. he's also playing his first season of competitive basketball with tryouts and all that. and I'm coaching my daughters 2nd grade basketball team again this season.
my rankings of most fun stuff to coach:
1. football
2. little girl basketball
3. baseball
I bet baseball would be above my son's basketball if I coached that but not certain. baseball is just such a massive time commitment. absolute grind of a season and all year practice is really wearing on me. it's the most "rewarding" to me thinking about it but also just grueling. also it seems like you have way more parent issues in baseball than other sports. maybe that's just my personal experience. mama bear needs to get baby bear on the mound more! why does baby bear bat 8th? all that crap. also the "rewarding" could just be because of all the time we spend together doing it? not sure.
Started practice this week with my 6th, 7th and 8th grade basketball teams. I’m very excited and 100% agree that youth coaching is the most rewarding thing ever.
My kid isn’t playing, so I don’t think its just spending time with your kid that makes it rewarding. I actually think its more rewarding that my kid doesn’t do basketball, so I can go to her events and simply enjoy it without worrying about any of my own responsibilities.
I’ve never had an issue with parents either, which I know is rare. But on the flip-side, I have issues with parents being committed and getting their kids to practice and being timely. I think I would take the less dedicated parents that don’t bitch at me all the time, but I sometimes find myself getting frustrated with lack of commitment.
I’ve also found that it makes a big difference who you’re coaching with. I got stuck with a volunteer parent one year, and it was not as much fun. Now I coach with a buddy that I played pick-up with for years before I convinced him to coach. We schedule as many Saturday practices as we can-- Mostly so we can go drink beer afterward
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 10, 2023, 12:12:17 PM
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Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2023, 12:35:29 PM
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Post by: OB_Won on November 10, 2023, 03:38:46 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 10, 2023, 04:02:55 PM
What I liked about CC was unless you were going to medal or close to medaling, you're just going against your own PR. Also the meets are everyone cheering for all the kids. V fun.
Post by: Spracne on November 10, 2023, 04:15:35 PM
Looks like lil sd hasn't yet gotten around to #4 on his list :lol:
Who has a desk like that? It's unusable! How can he draft his important letters and other papers with that mess??
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2023, 11:31:56 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 11, 2023, 12:16:56 AM
Looks like lil sd hasn't yet gotten around to #4 on his list :lol:
Who has a desk like that? It's unusable! How can he draft his important letters and other papers with that mess??
The SD family has thrived for like 5 generations keeping track of cattle on random notepads stuffed in the center console of a ford F369. No surprise lil SD inherited the gene
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2023, 12:22:04 AM
Looks like lil sd hasn't yet gotten around to #4 on his list :lol:
Who has a desk like that? It's unusable! How can he draft his important letters and other papers with that mess??
The SD family has thrived for like 5 generations keeping track of cattle on random notepads stuffed in the center console of a ford F369. No surprise lil SD inherited the gene
my dad irl wrote in pen cattle tag numbers and other crap on his console, which is lmao
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 11, 2023, 08:21:27 AM
Post by: Cire on November 11, 2023, 09:11:09 AM
Must of the points rebounds were her own misses.
She’d make it Sprint to half court (no pressing yet) and yell “I GOT BALL,I GOT BALL” like a demon
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 11, 2023, 10:15:04 AM
Post by: Cire on November 11, 2023, 10:51:50 AM
when you get to double digit steals it starts to become meanMeh first game new team.
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Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
My third grade daughter got a points/rebounds/steals triple double last night.I’m coaching 2 second grade girl games today. We had so many kids request us as coaches we split the team in two. We are incredibly good even split up. My daughter plays on both teams. She’s mean as crap and is a menace on D.
Must of the points rebounds were her own misses.
She’d make it Sprint to half court (no pressing yet) and yell “I GOT BALL,I GOT BALL” like a demon
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 13, 2023, 08:22:11 AM
My oldest is in 8th and did Cross Country for the first time this year. Great sport for a certain type of kid. Mine has never liked contact so most team sports weren't for him, although he did continue rec soccer this season.One of my kiddos has taken up XC. I didn't know anything about it before but I love it now. The coaches are great people and it is fun to run from point to point on the course providing encouragement for the runners. There is a team aspect to it but like you say, for most kids it is about improving your PR week by week.
What I liked about CC was unless you were going to medal or close to medaling, you're just going against your own PR. Also the meets are everyone cheering for all the kids. V fun.
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Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2023, 07:33:31 PM
9:00 - 11:00 baseball practice
1:00 - basketball game
2:00 - basketball photos
4:00 - basketball game
5:00 - basketball game
:sdeek:
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Omg I can’t believe you do that
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Post by: steve dave on December 01, 2023, 10:04:53 PM
Next weekend I have 7 basketball games.
Pretty sweet “life” over here I’m “living”
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 01, 2023, 11:29:46 PM
Find a kid who is nails from 12 to 15 and run a 3 man overload against a zone.
Teach them to ball and man D, and run an amoeba press.
Post by: michigancat on December 02, 2023, 09:44:10 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 02, 2023, 10:07:27 AM
Today I am driving about 2.5 hours round trip for what will likely be a 1 hour water polo scrimmageI’m surprised you aren’t taking the battery powered helicopter
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 02, 2023, 10:47:13 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 02, 2023, 10:47:49 AM
Guys I have a 9-11 baseball practice and 1:00, 3:00, 4:00, and 5:00 basketball games to coach tomorrow. Just FYI.
Next weekend I have 7 basketball games.
Pretty sweet “life” over here I’m “living”
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please tell me it's two diff hoops teams
Post by: steve dave on December 02, 2023, 11:33:22 AM
Actually three because my daughter is on two different teams and I coach both.Guys I have a 9-11 baseball practice and 1:00, 3:00, 4:00, and 5:00 basketball games to coach tomorrow. Just FYI.
Next weekend I have 7 basketball games.
Pretty sweet “life” over here I’m “living”
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please tell me it's two diff hoops teams
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Post by: wetwillie on December 02, 2023, 11:34:44 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 02, 2023, 11:42:26 AM
Today I am driving about 2.5 hours round trip for what will likely be a 1 hour water polo scrimmageI’m surprised you aren’t taking the battery powered helicopter
I don't understand
Post by: steve dave on December 02, 2023, 06:31:44 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 02, 2023, 06:35:51 PM
Actually three because my daughter is on two different teams and I coach both.Guys I have a 9-11 baseball practice and 1:00, 3:00, 4:00, and 5:00 basketball games to coach tomorrow. Just FYI.
Next weekend I have 7 basketball games.
Pretty sweet “life” over here I’m “living”
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please tell me it's two diff hoops teams
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the reason my daughter plays on two is because we coached them last year and the other assistant coach decided to invite like 6 girls to join our team THAT ALREADY HAD LIKE 7 GIRLS ON IT. I told him he had to tell them they can't join but he felt bad and talked me into splitting them up lower and higher level and for us to coach BOTH STINKIN TEAMS and because of numbers my daughter and two other girls play on both teams and next week we play each other and, folks, our better team is going to absolutely body our lower level team and we will need to make sure that it goes smoothly and that actually doesn't happen. Also need to strategically split the three that play both teams to help in that. lower level team is 3-2 on the year and upper team is 6-0 so far. We practice both teams together and get the whole gym since we have two teams. normally 2nd grade has to practice on a half court with a different team on the other side.
Post by: nicname on December 02, 2023, 07:00:51 PM
Actually three because my daughter is on two different teams and I coach both.Guys I have a 9-11 baseball practice and 1:00, 3:00, 4:00, and 5:00 basketball games to coach tomorrow. Just FYI.
Next weekend I have 7 basketball games.
Pretty sweet “life” over here I’m “living”
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please tell me it's two diff hoops teams
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the reason my daughter plays on two is because we coached them last year and the other assistant coach decided to invite like 6 girls to join our team THAT ALREADY HAD LIKE 7 GIRLS ON IT. I told him he had to tell them they can't join but he felt bad and talked me into splitting them up lower and higher level and for us to coach BOTH STINKIN TEAMS and because of numbers my daughter and two other girls play on both teams and next week we play each other and, folks, our better team is going to absolutely body our lower level team and we will need to make sure that it goes smoothly and that actually doesn't happen. Also need to strategically split the three that play both teams to help in that. lower level team is 3-2 on the year and upper team is 6-0 so far. We practice both teams together and get the whole gym to do so since we have two teams. normally 2nd grade has to practice on a half court with a different team on the other side.
Literally the best way to do it
Post by: steve dave on December 06, 2023, 08:17:34 AM
Friday
6:40
Saturday
10:45, 3:20, 4:00, 5:00
Sunday
8:00, 10:00
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Post by: IPA4Me on December 10, 2023, 12:49:31 PM
FOLKSAre you sleeping all afternoon after that overload weekend?
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Post by: steve dave on December 10, 2023, 01:33:50 PM
Man I wishFOLKSAre you sleeping all afternoon after that overload weekend?
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Post by: steve dave on January 05, 2024, 08:01:39 AM
baseball practice 9:00-11:00
girls basketball game 1:00
girls basketball game 3:00
girls basketball game 4:00
boys basketball game 4:00
boys basketball game 6:00
lil sd's games are like an hour away from lil girl sd's so I'm going to miss the first one which sucks
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 05, 2024, 08:30:28 AM
9:00 boys
10:30 girls
11:00 boys
12:00 boys
2:00 boys
4:30 wedding
we may have to miss the 2:00p. I'll most likely miss the 10:30 girls as my son is supposed to be 30 mins early to his games.
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Post by: Justwin on January 06, 2024, 08:38:15 AM
She just taking an Uber or what?I'll still go, but the rest of the family (3 younger kids and wife) will probably just stay back at the hotel.
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Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2024, 11:44:05 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 06, 2024, 11:46:48 AM
SD why are you doing 2 hour practices in January for a kids baseball team?How else do you play 100 games a year as a 7 year old?
Post by: IPA4Me on January 06, 2024, 11:54:59 AM
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2024, 10:15:52 PM
SD why are you doing 2 hour practices in January for a kids baseball team?
we practice 3 times a week during offseason all year round.
sat: first hour strength work. medicine ball, core work, band work, weighted ball throwing. second hour is hittrax and cages.
sun: 2 hours of hitting/hitrax and bullpens (pitcher/catchers)
tue: 2 hours of quad time. as close to we can get in this arctic wonderland to baseball. we set up an infield and work on fielding, live hitting/pitching/etc.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 07, 2024, 11:55:01 AM
My daughter is playing in the Winter Magic indoor soccer tournament next weekend. She has a game that kicks off at 10:45 p.m. next Friday. Pretty sure the whole family won't be going to that game.Wtf?!
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Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2024, 11:58:43 AM
Post by: ben ji on January 07, 2024, 05:38:25 PM
my girls went 3-0 and are continuing their domination of the entire Omaha metro. boys went 0-2 getting blown out in the first one and losing close in the second one. they are playing up a division after only losing one league game last session and, folks, it's going to be a long rest of the season for them.
Not sure how old lil SD is but has he run into any 5'8 fifth graders with a beard who absolutely dominate for 3-4 years because they hit puberty super early but then suck in HS because they never grew again?
One of my elementary school buds was that guy, people were terrified when he was pitching because he shattered one players orbital bone/nose on an errant pitch out at 3&2.
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2024, 07:27:38 PM
About to run into that. He’s 10 so any moment now.my girls went 3-0 and are continuing their domination of the entire Omaha metro. boys went 0-2 getting blown out in the first one and losing close in the second one. they are playing up a division after only losing one league game last session and, folks, it's going to be a long rest of the season for them.
Not sure how old lil SD is but has he run into any 5'8 fifth graders with a beard who absolutely dominate for 3-4 years because they hit puberty super early but then suck in HS because they never grew again?
One of my elementary school buds was that guy, people were terrified when he was pitching because he shattered one players orbital bone/nose on an errant pitch out at 3&2.
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Post by: IPA4Me on January 07, 2024, 08:08:06 PM
Post by: meow meow on January 08, 2024, 10:18:54 AM
My daughter is playing in the Winter Magic indoor soccer tournament next weekend. She has a game that kicks off at 10:45 p.m. next Friday. Pretty sure the whole family won't be going to that game.
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we've played in that before, don't think in any tourney we've ever had a start later than 9pm (which is still too late). that time sounds like a typo
Post by: Justwin on January 08, 2024, 12:47:01 PM
My daughter is playing in the Winter Magic indoor soccer tournament next weekend. She has a game that kicks off at 10:45 p.m. next Friday. Pretty sure the whole family won't be going to that game.
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we've played in that before, don't think in any tourney we've ever had a start later than 9pm (which is still too late). that time sounds like a typo
Definitely not a typo. Also, not the latest kickoff time on Friday! (11:00 p.m.)
I've never had a kickoff that late for an outdoor tournament, but even those are starting to get later. There were 9:30 p.m. games at the MAG this past fall. Tournaments in Kansas City are getting more and more popular for out of region teams. There are a lot of teams in most of the big tournaments which gives you competitive brackets and this is drawing teams from Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Iowa, South Dakota, Illinois and Minnesota.
Post by: steve dave on January 10, 2024, 05:16:17 PM
Also I am not planning on any new baseball bat pornography for 2024…..unless?
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FOLKS
a kid on our team got a drop 8 bat and it's got my attention. I'm monitoring the situation. lil sd is a tiny little crap and swings a pretty good sized bat for his size going into 11u (30/20) but maybe I'll get him a drop 8.
also I'm buying him a new catchers and fielding glove. think I'm going heart of the hide r2g contoUR fit for both. does anyone have experience with these? Right now he plays with the rawlings R9 at both positions and we've been happy with them but they are on their second seasons and both say they max out at 12 yo. he's 10 but would rather him get something broken in over the season and transition early than wait to long.
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2024, 07:19:43 PM
for the padding, i’d like to suggest using the cotton from a cottonwood tree that I know about up in lake waukomis. super soft cotton from that tree, it’s insane.
“bespoke lux mitts by grandpa and grandma sd” could be the name of the company we just invented.
catch phrase for the company- “bespoke lux mitts by grandpa and grandma sd. you don’t need one, you meade one”
what do you say, let’s get rich. we can go on shark tank next saturday?
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2024, 07:21:03 PM
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Post by: schreds21 on January 11, 2024, 08:38:37 PM
Tomorrow I fly from New York City to Dallas to watch my child play four (4) water polo games that will take less than an hour eachWhat in the ever loving eff?
Post by: michigancat on January 11, 2024, 08:47:27 PM
Tomorrow I fly from New York City to Dallas to watch my child play four (4) water polo games that will take less than an hour eachWhat in the ever loving eff?
Long story short is there isn't enough quality competition outside of California to have many quality games, so most of the best players in the country not from California are playing in Dallas this weekend for a tournament/showcase. There's a lot more to it, but that's the gist.
Post by: wetwillie on January 11, 2024, 08:53:23 PM
Tomorrow I fly from New York City to Dallas to watch my child play four (4) water polo games that will take less than an hour each
Now I see why you can't afford an iPhone
Post by: michigancat on January 11, 2024, 08:55:38 PM
All on points :gocho:Tomorrow I fly from New York City to Dallas to watch my child play four (4) water polo games that will take less than an hour each
Now I see why you can't afford an iPhone
Because I can generally get a free flight about every month with those dang triple restaurant points. :frown:
And flying SW :frown: :frown:
Post by: steve dave on January 11, 2024, 09:36:49 PM
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Post by: michigancat on January 12, 2024, 06:18:56 AM
Extremely weird travel baseball families do that crap 8 times a summer. Toughen up cupcake.For less than 4 hours of competition? Of course you probably use about as much energy in an hour of water polo as you do in a full weekend of baseball so it's pretty similar.
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Also in three weeks we're doing it again in California!
Post by: meow meow on January 12, 2024, 08:34:24 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 12, 2024, 10:10:38 AM
I’m flying to Cali this morning!Extremely weird travel baseball families do that crap 8 times a summer. Toughen up cupcake.For less than 4 hours of competition? Of course you probably use about as much energy in an hour of water polo as you do in a full weekend of baseball so it's pretty similar.
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Also in three weeks we're doing it again in California!
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Post by: schreds21 on January 21, 2024, 03:31:02 PM
I really enjoy my kids' school-sanctioned sports events but the non-school / club stuff just annoys the crap out of me. Crowded icy parking lots, gate fees, crappy seating, CoachDads with faces swollen to massive proportions from drinking a 12 pack of Busch Light every night angrily screaming in the faces of tiny fourth graders, parents coaching their kids from the stands and loudly critiquing novice refs for the entire forty minutes. I can't stand it. I've got one more season of watching youth basketball left and then I'm done.I feel the same way about soccer
Post by: wetwillie on January 21, 2024, 04:34:49 PM
Post by: steve dave on January 21, 2024, 04:54:24 PM
I keep thinking the youth sports travel ball bubble is going to pop but it seems more popular than ever.That crap is absolutely never popping.
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Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2024, 05:04:01 PM
I keep thinking the youth sports travel ball bubble is going to pop but it seems more popular than ever.it will, but not until the kids involved now are old enough that they’re choosing to not involve their own children in it
this was interesting if you haven’t already seen it
https://youtu.be/AGxxBER5xJU?si=QIkwfE2BZ_esJqcj
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 21, 2024, 08:02:21 PM
One of the Dads at basketball yest was saying that they have been to a volleyball tournament in the Bartle Hall complex that had 60+ volleyball courts going. That boggles my mind.I keep thinking the youth sports travel ball bubble is going to pop but it seems more popular than ever.it will, but not until the kids involved now are old enough that they’re choosing to not involve their own children in it
this was interesting if you haven’t already seen it
https://youtu.be/AGxxBER5xJU?si=QIkwfE2BZ_esJqcj
I should add that my kid’s coaches are awesome, positive and treat the kids the right way. I think the practice environment she is in is positive and good for building skills. It is just the environment at tourneys that rubs me the wrong way.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 22, 2024, 09:00:10 AM
I keep thinking the youth sports travel ball bubble is going to pop but it seems more popular than ever.it will, but not until the kids involved now are old enough that they’re choosing to not involve their own children in it
this was interesting if you haven’t already seen it
https://youtu.be/AGxxBER5xJU?si=QIkwfE2BZ_esJqcj
I don't think it's going to pop anytime soon. I liked the Gumble story, very good.
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2024, 11:05:42 AM
Friday:
5:00 gymnastics
9:00 PM basketball in council bluffs :Yuck:
Saturday:
9:30-11:30 baseball practice
4:00 girls basketball in elkhorn
5:00 boys basketball in council bluffs
8:00 PM boys basketball in council bluffs :Yuck:
Sunday:
9:00 boys basketball in bellevue
11:00 boys basketball in bellevue
3:30-5:30 baseball practice
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 25, 2024, 09:19:03 AM
x-post volleycats
https://www.lovb.com/news/suzie-fritz-and-matt-fuerbringer-to-join-lovb-coaching-roster (https://www.lovb.com/news/suzie-fritz-and-matt-fuerbringer-to-join-lovb-coaching-roster)
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LOVB Pro Adds Two Renowned Americans as Head Coaches for its Inaugural Season
Today, League One Volleyball (LOVB, pronounced “love”), the #1 youth volleyball business in the U.S. whose pro league launches in late 2024, today introduced two more members of its professional staff - Suzie Fritz and Matt Fuerbringer – who are joining as LOVB Pro head coaches. As individuals who have coached at the highest levels of the sport, Fritz and Fuerbringer continue to strengthen the professional staff at LOVB, which includes previously announced coaches Massimo Barbolini and Tama Miyashiro.
“Both Suzie and Matt are real students of the game, and their volleyball IQ is exceptional, so we are excited to welcome them to our team,” said Tom Hogan, director of sport for LOVB Pro. “Individually, they have made a tremendous impact on our sport and in particular, on the trajectory and development of the athletes who have played on their teams, so we can’t wait to see the impact they will have at LOVB.”
An NCAA veteran with a storied career, Suzie was most recently the associate head coach at Arkansas after 25 years as head coach of Kansas State. In her nearly 30 years as a volleyball coach, she led nationally-ranked teams to 18 NCAA tournament appearances, with her players including 18 All-America selections, 29 All-Region selections, and 60 All SEC/Big 12 selections. Over the past decade, she also coached three AVCA Midwest Freshman of the Year and two Big 12 Freshman of the Year recipients. She also served as a coach for the USA Women’s Collegiate program, appointed to a coaching role with the USA A2 team in 2006, again in 2009 as a head coach, and in 2023 she also served as a talent evaluator for the USA Women’s Open Tryout. In 2013, Suzie’s team represented the United States at the World University Games in Kazan, Russia.
A champion coach and player, Matt has found success at both the junior and professional levels. He has done two stints as an assistant coach for the U.S. Men’s National team, where he has helped coach the team to a series of championship results including a gold medal at the 2023 NORCECA zone championships, 2015 FIVB World Cup and 2014 FIVB World League; a silver medal at the 2023 and 2022 Volleyball Nations League Championships; a bronze medal at the 2016 Olympic Games, and most recently, winning their Olympic qualifier to compete in the 2024 Paris Olympics. He also was associate head coach for the Long Beach State women’s volleyball team for five years and is director of Team Rockstar volleyball club. A 4x All-American, Matt’s final block sealed the first NCAA men’s volleyball title for Stanford, and as a beach player, won the Manhattan Beach Open.
Volleyball is the fastest growing sport in the United States, and LOVB is working to make volleyball the next American major sports league, built on a level of play that is only possible when elite players come together with world-class coaches. Team assignments for coaches will be announced later this year.
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Post by: steve dave on February 08, 2024, 08:04:49 PM
Saturday:
9:30-11:30 baseball
1:00 girls basketball
4:00 boys basketball
5:00 girls basketball
7:00 boys basketball
Sunday:
12:30 boys basketball
2:30 boys basketball
3:30-5:30 baseball practice
Post by: meow meow on February 09, 2024, 07:47:58 AM
Post by: steve dave on February 09, 2024, 07:55:18 AM
baseball practice right before the super bowl, figure it out man
https://twitter.com/coachcasey13u/status/1739038894941741265
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 10, 2024, 11:01:43 PM
4-0 on the day bitches. Including wins over both rival Millard (Omaha Overland Park) teams.Well done, sd!
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Last lil kids bball 2024 for my fam today. 2-1 for the day.
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2024, 10:46:33 AM
4-0 on the day bitches. Including wins over both rival Millard (Omaha Overland Park) teams.Well done, sd!
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Last lil kids bball 2024 for my fam today. 2-1 for the day.
we have two more weeks. We will have an early exit in the league tournament because we rallied to finish the year 4th and they break the tournament out in 4 team sections so we will play the number 1 team in the opener and, folks, they kicked the living crap out of us when we played them earlier in the season. oh well, good year anyway.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 15, 2024, 12:23:04 PM
There's always a lot out there about the inequity of youth sports. It stinks. I don't blame anyone who is having their kids on travel teams FTR. It's just a terrible system!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 18, 2024, 09:30:20 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/14/opinion/youth-sports.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/14/opinion/youth-sports.html)
There's always a lot out there about the inequity of youth sports. It stinks. I don't blame anyone who is having their kids on travel teams FTR. It's just a terrible system!
How are we defining "travel" teams? Like my kids swim/volley all over the metro and both sides of state line - 50 mile radius probably but that's not travel in my mind it's just competing at places with good facilities and available time. My kids don't consider it travel sports because they went from Leawood over to Lee's Summit.
Travel is Dallas, OKC etc.
Post by: steve dave on February 18, 2024, 10:06:05 AM
I think our baseball team is travel ball but we don’t go further than Sioux Falls/Des Moines/KC. There are plenty of teams in the metro that can kick our ass without doubling up scheduling. There are teams at our level that play in AZ and FL and crap but I don’t see the point.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/14/opinion/youth-sports.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/14/opinion/youth-sports.html)
There's always a lot out there about the inequity of youth sports. It stinks. I don't blame anyone who is having their kids on travel teams FTR. It's just a terrible system!
How are we defining "travel" teams? Like my kids swim/volley all over the metro and both sides of state line - 50 mile radius probably but that's not travel in my mind it's just competing at places with good facilities and available time. My kids don't consider it travel sports because they went from Leawood over to Lee's Summit.
Travel is Dallas, OKC etc.
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Post by: schreds21 on February 18, 2024, 10:18:11 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 18, 2024, 10:21:19 AM
Why don't you just take a vacation up there so you can spend the entire time doing what you want and not have to dick with other parents and teammates and ball games screwing up your entire day?
It's an excuse to go. Not that you need one but that is the rational
Post by: schreds21 on February 18, 2024, 10:43:20 AM
"Honey, I'd really like to go spend some time in the Vail area this summer."
"Well crap! I think there's a tournament up there that we can spend an extra couple hundred dollars per family just to participate in! I'll bet the view from the ball field is great and we can spend the time resting in between games back at the overpriced condo that we can share with the Daves!"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 18, 2024, 10:48:36 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on February 19, 2024, 11:35:48 AM
Select = local tournaments primarily (1 or 2 tournaments per year with a hotel stay)
practice twice a week from Oct to April
Premier = multiple out of town tournaments with goal of making nationals
practices/training 3 to 4 per week from August to June
Select will cost a fam $3k more or less, Premier 3x at least
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Post by: nicname on February 19, 2024, 01:06:22 PM
Smallville has a community youth basketball program that is underwritten by donations and the proceeds of an annual tournament. For $60 each year, kids get (basic) uniforms, two 90 minute practices per week plus 15 - 20 games during the season when entry fees covered by the youth bball association. Kids have always had good coaches (with one glaring exception). Not enough court time to get your kid a D1 scholarship but they are able to understand the fundamentals of basketball well enough to enjoy participating in their school's team by the time they get to middle school. Seems like participation in club volleyball has exploded here over the past 5 -10 years. If kids aren't participating in a club team they are hopelessly behind when they get to middle school and it is a waste of time to try and get started in the game at that point.
This is how youth sports should operate.
Post by: schreds21 on February 20, 2024, 12:53:50 PM
YES!Smallville has a community youth basketball program that is underwritten by donations and the proceeds of an annual tournament. For $60 each year, kids get (basic) uniforms, two 90 minute practices per week plus 15 - 20 games during the season when entry fees covered by the youth bball association. Kids have always had good coaches (with one glaring exception). Not enough court time to get your kid a D1 scholarship but they are able to understand the fundamentals of basketball well enough to enjoy participating in their school's team by the time they get to middle school. Seems like participation in club volleyball has exploded here over the past 5 -10 years. If kids aren't participating in a club team they are hopelessly behind when they get to middle school and it is a waste of time to try and get started in the game at that point.
This is how youth sports should operate.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2024, 01:18:40 PM
yeah, I guess. I was just trying to figure out if my kids are traveling team or no. I'm gathering that unless they were actively recruited by a stranger and playing with kids from all over the metro and not their immediate neighborhood it's just a team formed by their friend's parents then nope, they are just a super organized rec. Which I am super cool with. None of them are going pro.
I'd classify that as Club vs Rec I guess.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 27, 2024, 01:45:47 PM
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Post by: nicname on February 27, 2024, 03:33:56 PM
Once you’ve wrestled, everything else is easy.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 28, 2024, 01:46:38 PM
More and more I believe wrestling is invaluable for developing positive traits in youths.
Once you’ve wrestled, everything else is easy.
I keep trying to convince Lil SF of this very thing. I never wrestled, but I am of the opinion that learning to wrestle at a young age solves many problems in JH, HS, and even college. I may force him to give it a try.
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Post by: Spracne on February 28, 2024, 02:00:12 PM
What does wrestling do for kids? Have zero wrestling experience or knowledge.
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You've never learned how to grapple male genitals?
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 28, 2024, 02:01:38 PM
More and more I believe wrestling is invaluable for developing positive traits in youths.
Once you’ve wrestled, everything else is easy.
I keep trying to convince Lil SF of this very thing. I never wrestled, but I am of the opinion that learning to wrestle at a young age solves many problems in JH, HS, and even college. I may force him to give it a try.
I wouldn't recommend forcing him. My recommendation would be to take him to some wrestling tournaments so he can see what it is all about. Hopefully he will have some buds who wrestle that can help convince him to try it.
Not sure where you are at, but going to a college event would be pretty cool for him. It will be freestyle instead of folkstyle, but he will get the general idea.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 28, 2024, 02:04:56 PM
What does wrestling do for kids? Have zero wrestling experience or knowledge.
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Being able to whip everyone's ass in the room has its advantages.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 28, 2024, 02:05:34 PM
What does wrestling do for kids? Have zero wrestling experience or knowledge.
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Discipline and perseverance are the main things I would point to. It is a great sport for girls too and girls wrestling is absolutely exploding right now.
Post by: Spracne on February 28, 2024, 02:07:14 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 28, 2024, 02:24:30 PM
I don't deny that wrestling requires incredible tenacity and athleticism but I'm really ambivalent (actually troubled) about sports that require weight cutting. I know they are (supposedly) trying to de-emphasize unhealthy means of weight cutting in wrestling but it is still in the sport. One of my kids does XC and always eats lunch at school with her friends that are wrestlers. They make her feel weird because she is eating a normal lunch so she can go on a 5K run during practice after school and they are having nothing because they are cutting weight. We should normalize young athletes being able to eat and drink as much as they need to hydrate and fuel their little bodies.What does wrestling do for kids? Have zero wrestling experience or knowledge.
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Discipline and perseverance are the main things I would point to. It is a great sport for girls too and girls wrestling is absolutely exploding right now.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 28, 2024, 02:35:41 PM
I have ribbons and trophies and stuff. Definitely didn't help me in any discernible way.
Interesting. I'm a fan of one on one type sports especially for kids at a younger age. I think it builds confidence when kicking ass and humility when getting said ass kicked. These things can def be learned in other areas, but i've always felt wrestling/mma/boxing etc make you learn these things faster. Baseball is sort of similar as its a battle between pitcher/batter, but there is also a lot of downtime in between. I say go right to the ass kicking!!!
Post by: nicname on February 28, 2024, 02:39:57 PM
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 28, 2024, 03:01:15 PM
It’s hard to make excuses or blame others in wrestling
Agreed. I don't condone fighting in any way and have told my kids its an absolute last resort, especially now that everyone has lost their freaking minds. I guess my thought is learning to defend yourself in a proper way and building confidence while also getting your ass handed to you every once in a while would be good for any kid. Things are just so different than when we grew up. I see a lot of my kids friends act tough as crap online, but they can't even communicate in real life.
What the crap do I know though?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 28, 2024, 03:02:40 PM
It’s hard to make excuses or blame others in wrestlingI didn't grow up around wrestling but a few years ago a friend took me to watch the state wrestling meet and this fact was really striking. I guess you can blame refs for calls they do or don't make but by and large it is just you out there with another person who wants to throw you on your back in front of hundreds of other people. Can't blame your teammate for not passing you the ball or blocking for you or whatever.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 28, 2024, 03:05:29 PM
so it's basically just the same things as individual sports in general. I'm a bigger proponent of team sports for what they build in kids but both have their benefits for sure.
Hey SD, Lil SF's baseball team is coming to Omaha to whip ass in a tournament in June. Maybe I can get some game changer tips. :driving:
Post by: Spracne on February 28, 2024, 04:45:58 PM
I have ribbons and trophies and stuff. Definitely didn't help me in any discernible way.
Interesting. I'm a fan of one on one type sports especially for kids at a younger age. I think it builds confidence when kicking ass and humility when getting said ass kicked. These things can def be learned in other areas, but i've always felt wrestling/mma/boxing etc make you learn these things faster. Baseball is sort of similar as its a battle between pitcher/batter, but there is also a lot of downtime in between. I say go right to the ass kicking!!!
You guys are the parents, not me. I'm just a devastatingly handsome bachelor living in the big city. I can't speak for the children. I don't regret wrestling, but it was pretty smelly and gross. And while I did dominate, I can't track whether it was a pivotal moment in my life. I would have dominated, anyway.
Post by: steve dave on February 28, 2024, 06:04:32 PM
Slump Buster?so it's basically just the same things as individual sports in general. I'm a bigger proponent of team sports for what they build in kids but both have their benefits for sure.
Hey SD, Lil SF's baseball team is coming to Omaha to whip ass in a tournament in June. Maybe I can get some game changer tips. :driving:
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Post by: ben ji on February 28, 2024, 06:35:14 PM
I didn't start wrestling until my sophomore year of high school after getting cut from the basketball team because nobody needs a 5'9 SF. Definitely the hardest sport I've ever played, I would compare it to maxing out lifting weights and sprinting at the same time on and off for 6 minutes.
I ended up going to state twice and winning a couple of matches because I mastered one move (over under toss) but when I faced people who had been wrestling since they were kids I was out of my league.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 28, 2024, 07:26:54 PM
Slump Buster?so it's basically just the same things as individual sports in general. I'm a bigger proponent of team sports for what they build in kids but both have their benefits for sure.
Hey SD, Lil SF's baseball team is coming to Omaha to whip ass in a tournament in June. Maybe I can get some game changer tips. :driving:
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I think so. It says Triple Crown, but slump buster sounds right.
Post by: steve dave on February 28, 2024, 09:19:37 PM
Slump Buster?so it's basically just the same things as individual sports in general. I'm a bigger proponent of team sports for what they build in kids but both have their benefits for sure.
Hey SD, Lil SF's baseball team is coming to Omaha to whip ass in a tournament in June. Maybe I can get some game changer tips. :driving:
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I think so. It says Triple Crown, but slump buster sounds right.
hell yeah, triple crown runs the tourney but it's called Slumpbuster. we take that weekend off for the CWS but let me know when you guys play and we'll come cheer you on if we aren't down there!
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Post by: star seed 7 on February 29, 2024, 02:03:00 AM
It was a great release of that primal battle type energy that I was filled with as a teenager. I preferred the team aspect of football and tackling doesn't have as heavy endurance demands.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 29, 2024, 07:17:48 AM
Slump Buster?so it's basically just the same things as individual sports in general. I'm a bigger proponent of team sports for what they build in kids but both have their benefits for sure.
Hey SD, Lil SF's baseball team is coming to Omaha to whip ass in a tournament in June. Maybe I can get some game changer tips. :driving:
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I think so. It says Triple Crown, but slump buster sounds right.
hell yeah, triple crown runs the tourney but it's called Slumpbuster. we take that weekend off for the CWS but let me know when you guys play and we'll come cheer you on if we aren't down there!
:thumbsup:
Post by: michigancat on February 29, 2024, 08:19:18 AM
wrestling sounded pretty good if you were into 24/7 chawdips to avoid eating and also getting a bunch of medieval skin worm things and maybe running around for hours wearing sweaters or some stupid crap
they did latex suits when I was in high school. my dumb high school take was "if you're the toughest mother rough rider that you say you are, why are you so afraid of wrestling someone in the higher weight bracket?"
Post by: steve dave on February 29, 2024, 08:35:38 AM
The entire culture, as someone who has never been around it, seems cringeywrestling sounded pretty good if you were into 24/7 chawdips to avoid eating and also getting a bunch of medieval skin worm things and maybe running around for hours wearing sweaters or some stupid crap
they did latex suits when I was in high school. my dumb high school take was "if you're the toughest mother rough rider that you say you are, why are you so afraid of wrestling someone in the higher weight bracket?"
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 29, 2024, 08:49:40 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 29, 2024, 08:53:25 AM
The entire culture, as someone who has never been around it, seems cringeywrestling sounded pretty good if you were into 24/7 chawdips to avoid eating and also getting a bunch of medieval skin worm things and maybe running around for hours wearing sweaters or some stupid crap
they did latex suits when I was in high school. my dumb high school take was "if you're the toughest mother rough rider that you say you are, why are you so afraid of wrestling someone in the higher weight bracket?"
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I thought the same thing until my daughter started wrestling. Totally changed my outlook on the sport once we got involved. Also, the weight cutting thing has changed a fair amount from the past. Kids will still cut weight, but I don't think the majority of them are cutting a crazy amount. Most of the kids we are around just pay very close attention to what they put in their bodies during the season (and after for that matter). The only kids we had that struggled a bit with weight from time to time used the YOLO approach to diet during the season.
Post by: pissclams on February 29, 2024, 09:07:52 AM
Post by: Cire on February 29, 2024, 09:14:43 AM
Weight isn’t an issue unless you are the number 2/3 guy in your team and you want to be number one
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Post by: Spracne on February 29, 2024, 12:54:52 PM
cauliflower ear and those unitards are both good enough reasons to just stick with hoops, football, and the other football. skateboarding is a good individual sport.
The oooooooooool' cauliflower ear ...
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 29, 2024, 01:09:10 PM
Ringworm cityif you think that is bad, do a google search for a condition called "herpes gladiatorum"
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Ringworm cityif you think that is bad, do a google search for a condition called "herpes gladiatorum"
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You know, I studied Latin. But somehow this escaped me.
Post by: pissclams on February 29, 2024, 02:24:04 PM
Ringworm cityoh man I forgot about that one. so disgusting
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Post by: WonderMeal on March 05, 2024, 12:32:22 PM
Peggy Po's:
-Harder than basically any other sport, gives you an "If I did X at wrestling practice, I can do [insert hard task here]" mentality;
-Both an individual and team sport, so best of both worlds
-Inside
-Athletic skills developed are transferrable to later in life more than like, throwing a curve ball
-Funnier athletes than a lot of other sports (from my experience)
-Weight cutting is much more under control now than it was 15+ years ago. Insane weight cuts are much more infrequent.
-Spot on the team for every weight and body type
-It's pretty accessible for those w/out a ton of money
Nancy Neg's:
-Tied with baseball/softball for "parent demo most of this blog probably wants to hang out with the least"
-Some skin diseases, all of which are curable and found at your average daycare (except the herpes one)
-Cauliflower ear (only if you're a dummy who doesn't wear headgear)
-Early morning wake-ups and tournaments where you can spend all day somewhere and compete for maybe 12 minutes (similar to swim, basketball, baseball, etc)
V interested to learn ben ji's alma mater :Wha:
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 05, 2024, 01:02:38 PM
For me after I learned the rules, there are very few places in sports that can replicate a high stakes match between the best of the best. Whether it is just a league tournament or a triangle meet between three great schools in the class. It is a ton of fun.
Post by: OB_Won on March 05, 2024, 01:56:10 PM
Wrestling is good, overall. Girls wrestling is probably even better, v glad it's growing in popularity. Here's a breakdown:Peggy Po: If the crap should ever go down as they age, nearly every fight results in a wrestling match at some point. There are very few people that actually know how to box or do martial arts (beyond a year or two as an elementary kid). Most of the time it's a swing or two, then taking each other to the floor to see who can get top position before commencing ground and pound.
Peggy Po's:
Nancy Neg's:
Post by: steve dave on March 06, 2024, 11:12:56 PM
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Post by: Spracne on March 06, 2024, 11:20:32 PM
Please help me crowdsource a 10 yo’s walk up music. He was TI - Bring’em Out last year.
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https://youtu.be/Q8P_xTBpAcY?si=tbvAh_ZCOxwvUUQu
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 08, 2024, 10:46:30 AM
Please help me crowdsource a 10 yo’s walk up music. He was TI - Bring’em Out last year.
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https://youtu.be/0BS5lRJfJgQ?feature=shared
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 08, 2024, 10:52:00 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2024, 11:13:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBmU9drpYAM
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Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2024, 01:48:24 PM
https://youtu.be/NTa6Xbzfq1U?si=0o8ikWzYwyfx6c8C
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 08, 2024, 02:52:14 PM
https://youtu.be/FLTchCiC0T0?si=s1jX3cKbDIpV5fo1
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 03:03:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMlvKbbLGc0Already taken
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Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2024, 03:04:38 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 03:04:57 PM
SD coaches "that team". :frown:We haven’t played a single team in 2 seasons that doesn’t have walk up music
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Post by: Spracne on March 08, 2024, 03:06:45 PM
Please help me crowdsource a 10 yo’s walk up music. He was TI - Bring’em Out last year.
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https://youtu.be/0BS5lRJfJgQ?feature=shared
This is a good one!
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 03:06:53 PM
lmao stopBitch I don’t tell lies
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Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2024, 03:11:54 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 03:12:59 PM
walk up music seems like the raddest/most fun/least problematic part of semi-serious youth baseball
yeah, it's fun as hell. and it gives one of the moms or dads a job which is important so they don't talk to me.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 08, 2024, 03:20:36 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 03:23:07 PM
If you have a closer, 100% fireman by george strait
lil sd wishes he was a closer because he would come out to this like Ryan Pressly. Also Astros home games at the juice box are incredible when they play it and cut the lights and everyone goes nuts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlN9jdQFSc&ab_channel=JohnnyCashVEVO
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 08, 2024, 03:24:23 PM
This worked for the Chiefs, would definitely be a good walkup as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iTsbnr8e_8
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2024, 03:28:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obim8BYGnOE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obim8BYGnOE)
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 03:29:57 PM
is 60 seconds enough time for a walk up? if so then use the last minute of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obim8BYGnOE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obim8BYGnOE)
it's tricky because you only get like 15 seconds for walk up. when your team is doing warm up pitching that's when your team gets to play your own music for longer. there are very strict unwritten rules about who is playing music when.
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 03:32:38 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 08, 2024, 03:51:16 PM
in pregame when you're on the right field and left field lines warming up is when the parents get to flex on each others music and walk the fine line of drowning out the other teams music but also not pissing me off by making it too loud.
haha, that's pretty interesting that most teams do it up there. We only have a couple of teams in league play that do it and really have only seen a couple teams in the tournaments. Weird that there is such a difference. I was just giving you crap. I don't really care at all, but we do run in to one team that is def "that team". One tournament day, those fuckers would just blast their crap warming up while other games were going on. We were playing the game before and they basically set their blaster right by our dugout. Our coaches just kind of gave them a look, but it was so loud the umpire had to tell them to buzz off as no one could hear his calls. They got all pissy about it. It was a hoot.
I also enjoy it when every 10 year olds walkup music is an 80's or 90's rock song their dad made them choose. 80% of the kids walk up to Thunderstruck, Centerfield, or an Imagine Dragons song.
Post by: Spracne on March 08, 2024, 03:57:26 PM
in pregame when you're on the right field and left field lines warming up is when the parents get to flex on each others music and walk the fine line of drowning out the other teams music but also not pissing me off by making it too loud.
haha, that's pretty interesting that most teams do it up there. We only have a couple of teams in league play that do it and really have only seen a couple teams in the tournaments. Weird that there is such a difference. I was just giving you crap. I don't really care at all, but we do run in to one team that is def "that team". One tournament day, those fuckers would just blast their crap warming up while other games were going on. We were playing the game before and they basically set their blaster right by our dugout. Our coaches just kind of gave them a look, but it was so loud the umpire had to tell them to buzz off as no one could hear his calls. They got all pissy about it. It was a hoot.
I also enjoy it when every 10 year olds walkup music is an 80's or 90's rock song their dad made them choose. 80% of the kids walk up to Thunderstruck, Centerfield, or an Imagine Dragons song.
You don't like Imagine Dragon?
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 08, 2024, 04:00:13 PM
in pregame when you're on the right field and left field lines warming up is when the parents get to flex on each others music and walk the fine line of drowning out the other teams music but also not pissing me off by making it too loud.
haha, that's pretty interesting that most teams do it up there. We only have a couple of teams in league play that do it and really have only seen a couple teams in the tournaments. Weird that there is such a difference. I was just giving you crap. I don't really care at all, but we do run in to one team that is def "that team". One tournament day, those fuckers would just blast their crap warming up while other games were going on. We were playing the game before and they basically set their blaster right by our dugout. Our coaches just kind of gave them a look, but it was so loud the umpire had to tell them to buzz off as no one could hear his calls. They got all pissy about it. It was a hoot.
I also enjoy it when every 10 year olds walkup music is an 80's or 90's rock song their dad made them choose. 80% of the kids walk up to Thunderstruck, Centerfield, or an Imagine Dragons song.
You don't like Imagine Dragon?
All but that one...
Post by: Kid In the Hall on March 08, 2024, 04:23:20 PM
Absolutely dreadful
Post by: Spracne on March 08, 2024, 04:49:23 PM
in pregame when you're on the right field and left field lines warming up is when the parents get to flex on each others music and walk the fine line of drowning out the other teams music but also not pissing me off by making it too loud.
haha, that's pretty interesting that most teams do it up there. We only have a couple of teams in league play that do it and really have only seen a couple teams in the tournaments. Weird that there is such a difference. I was just giving you crap. I don't really care at all, but we do run in to one team that is def "that team". One tournament day, those fuckers would just blast their crap warming up while other games were going on. We were playing the game before and they basically set their blaster right by our dugout. Our coaches just kind of gave them a look, but it was so loud the umpire had to tell them to buzz off as no one could hear his calls. They got all pissy about it. It was a hoot.
I also enjoy it when every 10 year olds walkup music is an 80's or 90's rock song their dad made them choose. 80% of the kids walk up to Thunderstruck, Centerfield, or an Imagine Dragons song.
You don't like Imagine Dragon?
All but that one...
You mean how you Imagine Dragon deez nuts on your face?
Post by: nicname on March 08, 2024, 05:09:32 PM
https://youtu.be/p5XtvhR4oUY?si=zBDEGJvbsJxnFHk9
On iPhone so can’t post embed (don’t know how)
Chancellor Warhol - Elvis …. The first 10-15 seconds
https://youtu.be/DPyE_NP_yKs?si=JEweT8Fp8thf3vi8
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2024, 06:24:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ERvlxgCD8&pp=ygUbYmFjayB0aGVuIG1pa2Ugam9uZXMgZGlydHkg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ERvlxgCD8&pp=ygUbYmFjayB0aGVuIG1pa2Ugam9uZXMgZGlydHkg)
Post by: Tobias on March 08, 2024, 06:32:34 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 08, 2024, 06:33:42 PM
in pregame when you're on the right field and left field lines warming up is when the parents get to flex on each others music and walk the fine line of drowning out the other teams music but also not pissing me off by making it too loud.
haha, that's pretty interesting that most teams do it up there. We only have a couple of teams in league play that do it and really have only seen a couple teams in the tournaments. Weird that there is such a difference. I was just giving you crap. I don't really care at all, but we do run in to one team that is def "that team". One tournament day, those fuckers would just blast their crap warming up while other games were going on. We were playing the game before and they basically set their blaster right by our dugout. Our coaches just kind of gave them a look, but it was so loud the umpire had to tell them to buzz off as no one could hear his calls. They got all pissy about it. It was a hoot.
I also enjoy it when every 10 year olds walkup music is an 80's or 90's rock song their dad made them choose. 80% of the kids walk up to Thunderstruck, Centerfield, or an Imagine Dragons song.
You don't like Imagine Dragon?
All but that one...
You mean how you Imagine Dragon deez nuts on your face?
For shits sake Spracs, they are 10 years old.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2024, 06:46:28 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 08, 2024, 07:20:31 PM
in pregame when you're on the right field and left field lines warming up is when the parents get to flex on each others music and walk the fine line of drowning out the other teams music but also not pissing me off by making it too loud.
haha, that's pretty interesting that most teams do it up there. We only have a couple of teams in league play that do it and really have only seen a couple teams in the tournaments. Weird that there is such a difference. I was just giving you crap. I don't really care at all, but we do run in to one team that is def "that team". One tournament day, those fuckers would just blast their crap warming up while other games were going on. We were playing the game before and they basically set their blaster right by our dugout. Our coaches just kind of gave them a look, but it was so loud the umpire had to tell them to buzz off as no one could hear his calls. They got all pissy about it. It was a hoot.
I also enjoy it when every 10 year olds walkup music is an 80's or 90's rock song their dad made them choose. 80% of the kids walk up to Thunderstruck, Centerfield, or an Imagine Dragons song.
You don't like Imagine Dragon?
All but that one...
You mean how you Imagine Dragon deez nuts on your face?
For shits sake Spracs, they are 10 years old.
You. YOU!
Post by: nicname on March 08, 2024, 07:58:02 PM
Assuming the jbl wagon has the appropriate bass levels, Hip hop by dead prez
OMG. Yes
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2024, 08:42:55 PM
is lil SD still an Astros fan? if so he needs to use a Htown track for sureOh this has been his multiple times because of ‘stros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ERvlxgCD8&pp=ygUbYmFjayB0aGVuIG1pa2Ugam9uZXMgZGlydHkg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ERvlxgCD8&pp=ygUbYmFjayB0aGVuIG1pa2Ugam9uZXMgZGlydHkg)
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 11, 2024, 08:27:41 AM
It's a wonder there aren't more concussions in tee ball and early coach pitch. They put all the kids in a semi-circle around the pitcher's mound, and every time a ball is hit, there are about 4 kids diving for it and cracking heads.
It only takes one kid that knows what he is doing to completely wreck the other dirt diggers. When Lil SF was in T ball, he figured out really quick where to stand to get the most action. He would run out just to the 3rd base side of the mound and claim his spot. He would then get every grounder and chuck it towards whatever kid was near first base almost killing said kid. It was terrifying every time, but no one could tell him not to do what he was supposed be doing.
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2024, 08:33:47 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 11, 2024, 08:49:30 AM
https://youtu.be/wOU0yV2dj8U?si=drbuOjJfEkacN2cl
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 11, 2024, 09:00:06 AM
pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
Ha, very true. Pretty sure me and my kid both killed little kids baseball careers. I was playing catch with one of his class mates. They were prob 1st grade and I was just lobbing it to him trying to get him going. He started doing better so I lobbed one a bit higher so he would turn his glove around. Right in the eyeball. He finished the season but never played again. I still joke with him that I made him quit baseball and he just smiles and says "yeah".
Lil SF did the same, got paired with a dirt digger in like 1st grade. I noticed it immediately and went over to him and said, "make sure he is watching before you throw it to him". I turned my back for like 9 seconds and WHAM. Right in the beak and blood everywhere.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 11, 2024, 09:17:09 AM
After much research, this is the song he should use.Agreed or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8WC09pIB7M
https://youtu.be/wOU0yV2dj8U?si=drbuOjJfEkacN2cl
Post by: steve dave on March 11, 2024, 10:22:10 AM
The thing about baseball is you will get absolutely smoked by a baseball hundreds of times in your career so weeding out the weak early is really to protect them. If you aren’t comfortable wearing a 4 seamer to the kneecap this ain’t the sport for you.pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
Ha, very true. Pretty sure me and my kid both killed little kids baseball careers. I was playing catch with one of his class mates. They were prob 1st grade and I was just lobbing it to him trying to get him going. He started doing better so I lobbed one a bit higher so he would turn his glove around. Right in the eyeball. He finished the season but never played again. I still joke with him that I made him quit baseball and he just smiles and says "yeah".
Lil SF did the same, got paired with a dirt digger in like 1st grade. I noticed it immediately and went over to him and said, "make sure he is watching before you throw it to him". I turned my back for like 9 seconds and WHAM. Right in the beak and blood everywhere.
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Post by: steve dave on March 11, 2024, 10:23:57 AM
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 11, 2024, 10:39:45 AM
Is it going to hurt for awhile? Yeah. But are you now on base? Hell yeah you are. Now pay attention and don’t get picked off because they know you’re hobbled and you and I know you’re slow as crap to begin with.
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1st year of kid pitch, I had Lil SF right on the plate. Like, right on top of it. I told him the same, over the plate, swing away, inside, wear it and jog to first. One game he got hit twice in a row and the third time up, the other coach called timeout and bitched at the umpire and they made him move back a bit. Everyone booed him. ha.
Post by: steve dave on March 11, 2024, 10:48:56 AM
BASEBALL GUY!Is it going to hurt for awhile? Yeah. But are you now on base? Hell yeah you are. Now pay attention and don’t get picked off because they know you’re hobbled and you and I know you’re slow as crap to begin with.
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1st year of kid pitch, I had Lil SF right on the plate. Like, right on top of it. I told him the same, over the plate, swing away, inside, wear it and jog to first. One game he got hit twice in a row and the third time up, the other coach called timeout and bitched at the umpire and they made him move back a bit. Everyone booed him. ha.
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Post by: schreds21 on March 11, 2024, 12:20:39 PM
pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)LOL at being introduced to sports at 8 or 9 anymore. By the time they are that age, baseball/softball kids have had 6 years of private instruction, outgrown $3000 worth of gear, had at least one Tommy John surgery, are practicing/playing 5 days a week year round and have played tournaments in 6 different states outside of their own. Soccer is almost as bad (no Tommy John though).
Post by: wetwillie on March 11, 2024, 01:22:05 PM
The thing about baseball is you will get absolutely smoked by a baseball hundreds of times in your career so weeding out the weak early is really to protect them. If you aren’t comfortable wearing a 4 seamer to the kneecap this ain’t the sport for you.pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
Ha, very true. Pretty sure me and my kid both killed little kids baseball careers. I was playing catch with one of his class mates. They were prob 1st grade and I was just lobbing it to him trying to get him going. He started doing better so I lobbed one a bit higher so he would turn his glove around. Right in the eyeball. He finished the season but never played again. I still joke with him that I made him quit baseball and he just smiles and says "yeah".
Lil SF did the same, got paired with a dirt digger in like 1st grade. I noticed it immediately and went over to him and said, "make sure he is watching before you throw it to him". I turned my back for like 9 seconds and WHAM. Right in the beak and blood everywhere.
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Honestly if your reflexes are so slow that you take a fastball off the knee you probably aren't much of a threat at the plate anyway.
Post by: steve dave on March 11, 2024, 02:00:15 PM
What are you wanting them to do? Move out of the way?The thing about baseball is you will get absolutely smoked by a baseball hundreds of times in your career so weeding out the weak early is really to protect them. If you aren’t comfortable wearing a 4 seamer to the kneecap this ain’t the sport for you.pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
Ha, very true. Pretty sure me and my kid both killed little kids baseball careers. I was playing catch with one of his class mates. They were prob 1st grade and I was just lobbing it to him trying to get him going. He started doing better so I lobbed one a bit higher so he would turn his glove around. Right in the eyeball. He finished the season but never played again. I still joke with him that I made him quit baseball and he just smiles and says "yeah".
Lil SF did the same, got paired with a dirt digger in like 1st grade. I noticed it immediately and went over to him and said, "make sure he is watching before you throw it to him". I turned my back for like 9 seconds and WHAM. Right in the beak and blood everywhere.
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Honestly if your reflexes are so slow that you take a fastball off the knee you probably aren't much of a threat at the plate anyway.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 11, 2024, 02:02:26 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 11, 2024, 02:09:49 PM
What are you wanting them to do? Move out of the way?The thing about baseball is you will get absolutely smoked by a baseball hundreds of times in your career so weeding out the weak early is really to protect them. If you aren’t comfortable wearing a 4 seamer to the kneecap this ain’t the sport for you.pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
Ha, very true. Pretty sure me and my kid both killed little kids baseball careers. I was playing catch with one of his class mates. They were prob 1st grade and I was just lobbing it to him trying to get him going. He started doing better so I lobbed one a bit higher so he would turn his glove around. Right in the eyeball. He finished the season but never played again. I still joke with him that I made him quit baseball and he just smiles and says "yeah".
Lil SF did the same, got paired with a dirt digger in like 1st grade. I noticed it immediately and went over to him and said, "make sure he is watching before you throw it to him". I turned my back for like 9 seconds and WHAM. Right in the beak and blood everywhere.
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Honestly if your reflexes are so slow that you take a fastball off the knee you probably aren't much of a threat at the plate anyway.
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We need baserunners!!!!!!!
Post by: KST8FAN on March 11, 2024, 03:08:59 PM
Wrestling was my salvation in 8th grade thru my senior year. Two great coaches who took an interest in helping me mature and grow up.
I wasn't the best 185-pounder and we had no heavy weight, so I "wrestled up" on 9th grade team as a heavy weight. My aerobics were second to none, so if you were one of the 225 lb tubs of goo taking me on, if you didn't pin me inside of a minute, your ass was mine.
Always took bottom, and worked the arm bar to roll those big boys over until they ran out of breath and succumbed to my reverse half nelson with all 180 lbs directed between their boy boobs into their sternum thru my chin.
Finished 2nd in every Fr, So (185), JV (185) wrestling tournament. Knee injury ended the senior campaign 3 matches into the season.
Rejoined the football team again as a sophomore and started my senior year as one of the most average lineman in the Centennial League.
I am available as a motivational speaker for any of your teams.
Tom
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 11, 2024, 05:06:05 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 11, 2024, 06:36:17 PM
What are you wanting them to do? Move out of the way?The thing about baseball is you will get absolutely smoked by a baseball hundreds of times in your career so weeding out the weak early is really to protect them. If you aren’t comfortable wearing a 4 seamer to the kneecap this ain’t the sport for you.pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
Ha, very true. Pretty sure me and my kid both killed little kids baseball careers. I was playing catch with one of his class mates. They were prob 1st grade and I was just lobbing it to him trying to get him going. He started doing better so I lobbed one a bit higher so he would turn his glove around. Right in the eyeball. He finished the season but never played again. I still joke with him that I made him quit baseball and he just smiles and says "yeah".
Lil SF did the same, got paired with a dirt digger in like 1st grade. I noticed it immediately and went over to him and said, "make sure he is watching before you throw it to him". I turned my back for like 9 seconds and WHAM. Right in the beak and blood everywhere.
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Honestly if your reflexes are so slow that you take a fastball off the knee you probably aren't much of a threat at the plate anyway.
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The smart ones just turn their leg in towards the plate and wear it on the back of the leg
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 12, 2024, 09:37:56 AM
What are you wanting them to do? Move out of the way?The thing about baseball is you will get absolutely smoked by a baseball hundreds of times in your career so weeding out the weak early is really to protect them. If you aren’t comfortable wearing a 4 seamer to the kneecap this ain’t the sport for you.pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
Ha, very true. Pretty sure me and my kid both killed little kids baseball careers. I was playing catch with one of his class mates. They were prob 1st grade and I was just lobbing it to him trying to get him going. He started doing better so I lobbed one a bit higher so he would turn his glove around. Right in the eyeball. He finished the season but never played again. I still joke with him that I made him quit baseball and he just smiles and says "yeah".
Lil SF did the same, got paired with a dirt digger in like 1st grade. I noticed it immediately and went over to him and said, "make sure he is watching before you throw it to him". I turned my back for like 9 seconds and WHAM. Right in the beak and blood everywhere.
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Honestly if your reflexes are so slow that you take a fastball off the knee you probably aren't much of a threat at the plate anyway.
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The smart ones just turn their leg in towards the plate and wear it on the back of the leg
And he better not rough ridin' rub it!!!!!
Post by: schreds21 on March 12, 2024, 09:40:41 AM
I got cut in 4th grade from the baseball team. Quit football in 7th grade.:emawkid:
Wrestling was my salvation in 8th grade thru my senior year. Two great coaches who took an interest in helping me mature and grow up.
I wasn't the best 185-pounder and we had no heavy weight, so I "wrestled up" on 9th grade team as a heavy weight. My aerobics were second to none, so if you were one of the 225 lb tubs of goo taking me on, if you didn't pin me inside of a minute, your ass was mine.
Always took bottom, and worked the arm bar to roll those big boys over until they ran out of breath and succumbed to my reverse half nelson with all 180 lbs directed between their boy boobs into their sternum thru my chin.
Finished 2nd in every Fr, So (185), JV (185) wrestling tournament. Knee injury ended the senior campaign 3 matches into the season.
Rejoined the football team again as a sophomore and started my senior year as one of the most average lineman in the Centennial League.
I am available as a motivational speaker for any of your teams.
Tom
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 12, 2024, 10:44:50 AM
pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
baseball is the best to teach hand/eye coordination and unlike other sports, you can't start it later. I see what you're saying if its the ONLY sport you start playing, but I think it's a good one for littler kids because of the hand/eye stuff.
Post by: steve dave on March 12, 2024, 10:56:33 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2024, 11:01:54 AM
pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
baseball is the best to teach hand/eye coordination and unlike other sports, you can't start it later. I see what you're saying if its the ONLY sport you start playing, but I think it's a good one for littler kids because of the hand/eye stuff.
Eh I think you can totally start baseball later than age 5 and be fine if the kids are playing other sports. I could be wrong though. Also when I was a kid it was really the only available organized sport until I was in junior high. (No soccer where I was)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 12, 2024, 11:14:21 AM
pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
baseball is the best to teach hand/eye coordination and unlike other sports, you can't start it later. I see what you're saying if its the ONLY sport you start playing, but I think it's a good one for littler kids because of the hand/eye stuff.
Eh I think you can totally start baseball later than age 5 and be fine if the kids are playing other sports. I could be wrong though. Also when I was a kid it was really the only available organized sport until I was in junior high. (No soccer where I was)
Same for me. Baseball at like 5 and that was pretty much it until 6th grade football. Small towns really like to see how much brain damage they can do to kids via sports.
Post by: steve dave on March 12, 2024, 11:20:41 AM
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 12, 2024, 11:25:53 AM
pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
baseball is the best to teach hand/eye coordination and unlike other sports, you can't start it later. I see what you're saying if its the ONLY sport you start playing, but I think it's a good one for littler kids because of the hand/eye stuff.
Eh I think you can totally start baseball later than age 5 and be fine if the kids are playing other sports. I could be wrong though. Also when I was a kid it was really the only available organized sport until I was in junior high. (No soccer where I was)
Perhaps.
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2024, 11:29:02 AM
Post by: steve dave on March 12, 2024, 11:31:12 AM
I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
uhhhh, not sure what kind of youth baseball you are watching. the best athlete on our baseball team is probably our worst player. similar situation to the other teams in our club. we did take him on because he's an elite football player and fast AF and is a very hard worker. I think we can mold him into something but it'll take awhile. hitting a baseball, fielding a hard ground ball, etc. are hard AF and being really fast and strong, while definitely helpful, don't get you the majority of the way there. it's a game of repetitions. unless you believe Dominicans are just the greatest natural athletes on the planet.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 12, 2024, 11:50:10 AM
I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
uhhhh, not sure what kind of youth baseball you are watching. the best athlete on our baseball team is probably our worst player. similar situation to the other teams in our club. we did take him on because he's an elite football player and fast AF and is a very hard worker. I think we can mold him into something but it'll take awhile. hitting a baseball, fielding a hard ground ball, etc. are hard AF and being really fast and strong, while definitely helpful, don't get you the majority of the way there. it's a game of repetitions. unless you believe Dominicans are just the greatest natural athletes on the planet.
Yep, doesn't matter how good of an athlete you are, you have to see a bunch of pitches to be a good hitter. Sure there are "naturals", but its just too hard and requires live pitches and swings especially as they get older. The main problem is that baseball can be boring AF for young kids so lots of kids wash out early. I love baseball, but I totally get it that hitting once every 3 innings and maybe standing out there for 2 hours and having one ball hit to you isn't that fun for a 10 year old. I loved the crap out of it, but I know Lil SF doesn't like it as much as I do and will probably wash out soon, which makes me sad.
Post by: SleepFighter on March 12, 2024, 11:52:46 AM
Post by: SleepFighter on March 12, 2024, 12:28:12 PM
I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
uhhhh, not sure what kind of youth baseball you are watching. the best athlete on our baseball team is probably our worst player. similar situation to the other teams in our club. we did take him on because he's an elite football player and fast AF and is a very hard worker. I think we can mold him into something but it'll take awhile. hitting a baseball, fielding a hard ground ball, etc. are hard AF and being really fast and strong, while definitely helpful, don't get you the majority of the way there. it's a game of repetitions. unless you believe Dominicans are just the greatest natural athletes on the planet.
Yep, doesn't matter how good of an athlete you are, you have to see a bunch of pitches to be a good hitter. Sure there are "naturals", but its just too hard and requires live pitches and swings especially as they get older. The main problem is that baseball can be boring AF for young kids so lots of kids wash out early. I love baseball, but I totally get it that hitting once every 3 innings and maybe standing out there for 2 hours and having one ball hit to you isn't that fun for a 10 year old. I loved the crap out of it, but I know Lil SF doesn't like it as much as I do and will probably wash out soon, which makes me sad.
Baseball was by far the game I was best at, and I was looking forward to coaching it. All three of mine started early in soccer, and then by the time I wanted to put them in baseball, they all said no thanks. Like Stupid Fitz said, too much standing around for them.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 12, 2024, 12:31:01 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2024, 12:33:06 PM
I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
uhhhh, not sure what kind of youth baseball you are watching. the best athlete on our baseball team is probably our worst player. similar situation to the other teams in our club. we did take him on because he's an elite football player and fast AF and is a very hard worker. I think we can mold him into something but it'll take awhile. hitting a baseball, fielding a hard ground ball, etc. are hard AF and being really fast and strong, while definitely helpful, don't get you the majority of the way there. it's a game of repetitions. unless you believe Dominicans are just the greatest natural athletes on the planet.
The best defenders, hitters and base runners on my son's teams for the better part of 5 years were also star football, basketball and track athletes. We did have one kid who was a wrestler/hockey type that could smoke HR's but couldn't play catcher to save his life or pick a ball at first base. I think pitching might be the exception, you can be really competent at the youth/HS level without a lot of natural athletic ability.
Post by: nicname on March 12, 2024, 01:58:41 PM
I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
I’ve read you and sd’s convo, and would agree to a point. Depends on how raw the talented team/players are, and how trained the less talented kids are. My son’s (now disbanded) team was more athletic as a whole than probably any team they played for the better part of the three seasons they were all together. They played mostly 12u when they were 11 so that was the exception.
We routinely lost games to less athletic, more trained teams.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 12, 2024, 02:19:30 PM
I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
I’ve read you and sd’s convo, and would agree to a point. Depends on how raw the talented team/players are, and how trained the less talented kids are. My son’s (now disbanded) team was more athletic as a whole than probably any team they played for the better part of the three seasons they were all together. They played mostly 12u when they were 11 so that was the exception.
We routinely lost games to less athletic, more trained teams.
I bet it was the walk up music
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2024, 02:46:59 PM
I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
I’ve read you and sd’s convo, and would agree to a point. Depends on how raw the talented team/players are, and how trained the less talented kids are. My son’s (now disbanded) team was more athletic as a whole than probably any team they played for the better part of the three seasons they were all together. They played mostly 12u when they were 11 so that was the exception.
We routinely lost games to less athletic, more trained teams.
Is more trained code for better coached?
Post by: steve dave on March 12, 2024, 02:52:28 PM
I don’t think so. Good baseball players generally become good from 80% work outside of their actual work with the team/coach.I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
I’ve read you and sd’s convo, and would agree to a point. Depends on how raw the talented team/players are, and how trained the less talented kids are. My son’s (now disbanded) team was more athletic as a whole than probably any team they played for the better part of the three seasons they were all together. They played mostly 12u when they were 11 so that was the exception.
We routinely lost games to less athletic, more trained teams.
Is more trained code for better coached?
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 12, 2024, 03:21:16 PM
I don’t think so. Good baseball players generally become good from 80% work outside of their actual work with the team/coach.I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
I’ve read you and sd’s convo, and would agree to a point. Depends on how raw the talented team/players are, and how trained the less talented kids are. My son’s (now disbanded) team was more athletic as a whole than probably any team they played for the better part of the three seasons they were all together. They played mostly 12u when they were 11 so that was the exception.
We routinely lost games to less athletic, more trained teams.
Is more trained code for better coached?
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Yep, Lil SF is pretty good at most sports. The problem is he just loves to play them when they are in season for the most part. Nothing wrong with that. He has always been good enough to just start when the season starts at almost every sport. That stops working out pretty quick with baseball as they get a bit older. He can still hang, but his team is pretty good and has some kids that are really good. If he really wants to continue, like most kids, he's going to have to work way more on his own or he'll need to find a rec team that doesn't exist here in KC for the most part. I feel like this year is the make or break year. It sucks that there just aren't many rec leagues here in KC. The other issue is that only like 1 of his school friends plays baseball. He had a smaller class that didn't have a lot of baseball players in general, but Covid killed it completely so we had to find another team.
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2024, 03:52:05 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 12, 2024, 04:03:10 PM
Like your kid can't hit a baseball very well now? Mine was slow and couldn't hit but could pitch really well so he found a niche.
He for sure can. He's just not as consistent as the other kids that work more on non practice days. Every year, the pitchers get better and throw harder so its tough if you aren't working more than just the couple of practices a week or whatever. He always starts slower, but gets in a groove. We will see how it goes this year. Last year was similar and he got hot and i noticed him out in the yard working more.
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2024, 06:25:11 PM
I don’t think so. Good baseball players generally become good from 80% work outside of their actual work with the team/coach.I've seen a lot of youth baseball and I don't think I've seen a lot of plucky try hards out perform the natural athletes.
I’ve read you and sd’s convo, and would agree to a point. Depends on how raw the talented team/players are, and how trained the less talented kids are. My son’s (now disbanded) team was more athletic as a whole than probably any team they played for the better part of the three seasons they were all together. They played mostly 12u when they were 11 so that was the exception.
We routinely lost games to less athletic, more trained teams.
Is more trained code for better coached?
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As a former guitar teacher (starting at age 14 :gocho:), I've observed the same. The kids who practiced between lessons magically got better. Those who didn't, I was getting paid to babysit.
I was really good at sports when being good at sports meant having the ability to pay attention and understand the rules. Once that shifted, I decided to go pro in something other than sports.
Post by: steve dave on March 12, 2024, 06:29:14 PM
Like your kid can't hit a baseball very well now? Mine was slow and couldn't hit but could pitch really well so he found a niche.
If you are an elite pitcher you don't need to do anything else. elite catchers can also get away with being a liability at the plate. everyone else better hit the damn ball.
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 12, 2024, 10:36:34 PM
Like your kid can't hit a baseball very well now? Mine was slow and couldn't hit but could pitch really well so he found a niche.
If you are an elite pitcher you don't need to do anything else. elite catchers can also get away with being a liability at the plate. everyone else better hit the damn ball.
This was me during my playing career.
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2024, 01:00:07 AM
pretty sure I've said it before but it still boggles my mind that baseball is the first organized sport I played. It's boring, has confusing rules, and really difficult for little kids. Like the worst of everything for kids trying sports. I wonder how many kids got completely turned off of sports because they sucked at baseball when they were like 8 or 9 and that was their only option and they assumed they sucked at all sports. (granted that's changed but still)
baseball is the best to teach hand/eye coordination and unlike other sports, you can't start it later. I see what you're saying if its the ONLY sport you start playing, but I think it's a good one for littler kids because of the hand/eye stuff.
Eh I think you can totally start baseball later than age 5 and be fine if the kids are playing other sports. I could be wrong though. Also when I was a kid it was really the only available organized sport until I was in junior high. (No soccer where I was)
Lorenzo Cain didn’t start until he was in high school
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2024, 06:04:07 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3658407/#:~:text=Results%3A,sports%20at%20a%20young%20age.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 13, 2024, 08:30:47 AM
In general I think travel coaches and training centers scare parents into the idea that early specialization is necessary to keep them from being "left behind" when in fact it is probably actually detrimental to most kids if you care about things like burnout and injury
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3658407/#:~:text=Results%3A,sports%20at%20a%20young%20age.
This is all true, but the problem is that baseball has evolved to play on these competitive teams or don't play baseball. My kid whipped ass in summer and fall rec leagues with his pals. As they got a bit older, those teams dissolve and fewer of his pals played baseball anymore. He was good enough to make a "competitive" team so he's still playing, but I know he'd rather be just playing league or whatever with a bunch of his buddies. Thankfully our coach is the best and doesn't go full on and encourages everyone to play other sports, but I know Lil SF doesn't like it as much as he did in the past. I was talking to a dad a year or so ago and he said his kid was on a team that does tryouts and cuts every year. Its a constant shuffle. I asked him if that was any fun at all and he basically said both he and his kid hate it, but he knows the kids and doesn't want to go to a random team so its that or don't play baseball anymore and he likes playing baseball.
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2024, 08:31:56 AM
In general I think travel coaches and training centers scare parents into the idea that early specialization is necessary to keep them from being "left behind" when in fact it is probably actually detrimental to most kids if you care about things like burnout and injury
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3658407/#:~:text=Results%3A,sports%20at%20a%20young%20age.
This is all true, but the problem is that baseball has evolved to play on these competitive teams or don't play baseball. My kid whipped ass in summer and fall rec leagues with his pals. As they got a bit older, those teams dissolve and fewer of his pals played baseball anymore. He was good enough to make a "competitive" team so he's still playing, but I know he'd rather be just playing league or whatever with a bunch of his buddies. Thankfully our coach is the best and doesn't go full on and encourages everyone to play other sports, but I know Lil SF doesn't like it as much as he did in the past. I was talking to a dad a year or so ago and he said his kid was on a team that does tryouts and cuts every year. Its a constant shuffle. I asked him if that was any fun at all and he basically said both he and his kid hate it, but he knows the kids and doesn't want to go to a random team so its that or don't play baseball anymore and he likes playing baseball.
Seems like a pretty good argument for not playing baseball
Post by: steve dave on March 13, 2024, 08:57:24 AM
He plays basketball because it’s the winter sport and he likes it fine. We just had tryouts and he was lucky enough to make the same team we played with last season but he’s on the lower end of the team. I’d prefer it if he played down a level and was a larger co tribute but he likes playing on the highest level team he can make.
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
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Post by: SleepFighter on March 13, 2024, 09:25:41 AM
In general I think travel coaches and training centers scare parents into the idea that early specialization is necessary to keep them from being "left behind" when in fact it is probably actually detrimental to most kids if you care about things like burnout and injury
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3658407/#:~:text=Results%3A,sports%20at%20a%20young%20age.
This is all true, but the problem is that baseball has evolved to play on these competitive teams or don't play baseball. My kid whipped ass in summer and fall rec leagues with his pals. As they got a bit older, those teams dissolve and fewer of his pals played baseball anymore. He was good enough to make a "competitive" team so he's still playing, but I know he'd rather be just playing league or whatever with a bunch of his buddies. Thankfully our coach is the best and doesn't go full on and encourages everyone to play other sports, but I know Lil SF doesn't like it as much as he did in the past. I was talking to a dad a year or so ago and he said his kid was on a team that does tryouts and cuts every year. Its a constant shuffle. I asked him if that was any fun at all and he basically said both he and his kid hate it, but he knows the kids and doesn't want to go to a random team so its that or don't play baseball anymore and he likes playing baseball.
Seems like a pretty good argument for not playing baseball
The problem is that this isn't just true of baseball.
Rec soccer barely exists above u8 or u9 around here, because so many players join various "Jr. Academies". After the Jr. Academies age out after U10, the rec teams have all been hollowed out. There has been a shift to younger Jr. Academy leagues around here since my oldest (17) started playing.
When my oldest was littler there were several u9 rec teams that had the players and coaches to create an environment that was fun, but at the same time at a high enough level for kids to be able to improve while playing in those games.
That just didn't exist by the time that my youngest came around. After like u5 or u6, there were fewer teams, and the teams that did exist were less organized and they were less likely to have the one or two "good" (by that I pretty much mean kids that really wanted to play) players that a team needed to make games not be ridiculously lop-sided. It's no fun for anyone when you as a coach are trying to come up with ways for your five year old kids to not score goals, but that's what was happening.
The only solution is for a bunch of parents to decide at the same time to keep their kids in rec longer. But that also requires that more parents sign up to coach. Which is a whole other problem.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 13, 2024, 09:41:47 AM
We are a tryout/cuts competitive team and none of lil sd’s friends are on it. But he’s become friends with most of his teammates. He loves it. His order of sports are baseball, football, basketball.
He plays basketball because it’s the winter sport and he likes it fine. We just had tryouts and he was lucky enough to make the same team we played with last season but he’s on the lower end of the team. I’d prefer it if he played down a level and was a larger co tribute but he likes playing on the highest level team he can make.
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
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Same baseball situation for my kid. He's def made friends on the new team, but quite a few of them go to a different school together so they are all pals. He's pretty chill and quiet so he sometimes gets drowned out. He def liked making the competitive team at first, but turns out it was more fun batting 1st or 2nd and playing infield in rec Vs batting towards the bottom and playing outfield in competitive.
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 13, 2024, 10:51:58 AM
OUTFIELD IS IMPORTANT!
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3 diving catches last year!!! :gocho:
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Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2024, 11:00:35 AM
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
Post by: SleepFighter on March 13, 2024, 02:58:36 PM
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
This is something that is 100% true.
It's also true that for a lot of kids that high school competition can be a lot more fun, and is much more visible to their peers.
My oldest kid just committed to play D2 soccer. Every single kid on the that roster either played in the MLSNext, ECNL (the two best national youth club soccer leagues in the country), or they're an international student.
Those high level club teams are put together from relatively large geographical areas, meaning that the players are likely not hanging out with each other outside of practice/games.
The opposite is true in high school. It makes those club teams feel like groups of mercenaries, while high school teams feel a lot more tightly knit.
Added to that, more or less no one that isn't directly related to the players goes to or cares about those club games. However, while it doesn't have anywhere close to the same interest as football, or even high school basketball, you will see classmates show up to cheer on the team in high school.
It stinks that there isn't more correlation between what feels the most rewarding and what you need to do if you want to keep playing after high school.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2024, 03:43:31 PM
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
hockey
Post by: SleepFighter on March 13, 2024, 03:52:30 PM
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
hockey
There's actually quite a bit of hockey in Texas, but none of it is played in high schools.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2024, 03:54:36 PM
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
hockey
There's actually quite a bit of hockey in Texas, but none of it is played in high schools.
How many texas hockey players play at the next level?
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2024, 03:55:03 PM
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
hockey
really? I think of that as super club-heavy. but also I knew some hockey parents in California where HS hockey is pretty much non existent - sure it's different in like New England.
Interestingly on the other end of the spectrum high end HS water polo in California is arguably a bigger deal for the next level. Outside of CA the competition is a joke and you need a club and it probably needs to be a mercenary-type club or you join one in california. (my daughter became a water polo club mercenary when we moved to NYC and had an amazing time)
Post by: SleepFighter on March 13, 2024, 04:01:47 PM
Football he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
hockey
There's actually quite a bit of hockey in Texas, but none of it is played in high schools.
How many texas hockey players play at the next level?
I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing more than you would think.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 13, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
I'd bet way less because they are all busy playing real sportsFootball he loves because it’s most of his school friends. We put together a feeder tackle football team for our HS. I coach it with some other guys and it’s fun as hell.
one interesting thing about this discussion I hadn't thought about is how football is one of the last remaining sports that still feels driven at the community level because clubs/private coaches haven't been able to completely take over the high level competition. It might be the last sport in the US where high school competition really means anything when it comes to playing at the next level.
hockey
There's actually quite a bit of hockey in Texas, but none of it is played in high schools.
How many texas hockey players play at the next level?
I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing more than you would think.
Post by: nicname on March 13, 2024, 06:01:37 PM
The goal for most kids shouldn’t really be to get a scholarship anyway. Not that kids and parents shouldn’t dream, but when that becomes the goal, this significantly impacting the organizational structure of participation so significantly, it ends up bad for most everyone. Less kids plays sports in general and for as long, and less kids play multiple sports for as long, while specialization increases.
Of course, money and the youth sports industrial complex is at the heart of it.
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2024, 07:09:06 PM
The only thing I know about water polo is vaguely remembering seeing it in the Olympics as a kid and rusty in this thread. So yeah, that seems to track.
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I thought about starting a women's college water polo thread for MakeItRain and I to discuss it because I'm pretty sure he would know more about it than me even though I watch it almost every weekend. It's a great sport! Even if it's kind of a mess with constant rule changes and terrible officiating which is hard to follow because so much happens underwater. Going to at least three sessions at the Olympics and I can't wait.
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Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2024, 08:51:20 PM
I hear it's really big at SMU.
I was shocked to recently learn that have 50m indoor AND outdoor pools! (No varsity polo though)
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What kind of athlete is good at water polo? Like if you had to field a team of kids that had never played which sport are you raiding for players?swimmers, then volleyball
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 14, 2024, 08:17:26 AM
What kind of athlete is good at water polo? Like if you had to field a team of kids that had never played which sport are you raiding for players?
Really tall people that can touch the bottom of the pool. :dunno:
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 15, 2024, 11:33:21 AM
Ultimately, we made our decision to let him play tackle due to the fact we are convinced he will get hurt playing flag. He has played flag for KCFC for 4 years now. Last year we played in the top division, and it was super competitive. There were multiple moments I thought we were going to see a mid-air head bang as the kids were going after a pass.
My son also plays RB...and he is very athletic at this point in his life. There were times kids would attempt to tackle and would get more aggressive than they should because of the level of difficulty he presented when going after his flag. Many of the injuries he sustained playing flag were due to collisions happening trying to bring him down. He would get a knee to the hip or thigh for example.
We are moving to tackle in hopes that the pads protect him a bit more. At this age they at least don't hit each other hard.
That being said, I don't think every kid is ready. My son is big-boned. Some of his friends are super tiny and I would not be comfortable letting them play tackle if they were my kids.
Also - KCFC has weight limits on ball carriers. That also gives me comfort that these kids aren't trying to tackle a kid who hit a growth spurt at an early age. If they are too heavy, they are required to be on the line.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 15, 2024, 11:49:56 AM
I will be letting my son play tackle starting in the fall...and he will be in 4th grade. Wife and I were on the fence on this for quite some time for the obvious reasons.
Ultimately, we made our decision to let him play tackle due to the fact we are convinced he will get hurt playing flag. He has played flag for KCFC for 4 years now. Last year we played in the top division, and it was super competitive. There were multiple moments I thought we were going to see a mid-air head bang as the kids were going after a pass.
My son also plays RB...and he is very athletic at this point in his life. There were times kids would attempt to tackle and would get more aggressive than they should because of the level of difficulty he presented when going after his flag. Many of the injuries he sustained playing flag were due to collisions happening trying to bring him down. He would get a knee to the hip or thigh for example.
We are moving to tackle in hopes that the pads protect him a bit more. At this age they at least don't hit each other hard.
That being said, I don't think every kid is ready. My son is big-boned. Some of his friends are super tiny and I would not be comfortable letting them play tackle if they were my kids.
Also - KCFC has weight limits on ball carriers. That also gives me comfort that these kids aren't trying to tackle a kid who hit a growth spurt at an early age. If they are too heavy, they are required to be on the line.
Thanks. Its one of those things where starting them early and teaching the fundamentals is good, but also opens them up to more head shots at an early age so I see both sides. I LOL at the weight limit thing. When I was a kid they had those too and it was very obvious that A)it was a self reported thing and B)if they did weigh the kids, one or two teams in my pee wee league starved the kids over the summer so they could hit weight at the beginning of the year. Every year it was terrifying playing them. This dude was a monster RB and just smoked us all.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 15, 2024, 02:31:06 PM
I will be letting my son play tackle starting in the fall...and he will be in 4th grade. Wife and I were on the fence on this for quite some time for the obvious reasons.
Ultimately, we made our decision to let him play tackle due to the fact we are convinced he will get hurt playing flag. He has played flag for KCFC for 4 years now. Last year we played in the top division, and it was super competitive. There were multiple moments I thought we were going to see a mid-air head bang as the kids were going after a pass.
My son also plays RB...and he is very athletic at this point in his life. There were times kids would attempt to tackle and would get more aggressive than they should because of the level of difficulty he presented when going after his flag. Many of the injuries he sustained playing flag were due to collisions happening trying to bring him down. He would get a knee to the hip or thigh for example.
We are moving to tackle in hopes that the pads protect him a bit more. At this age they at least don't hit each other hard.
That being said, I don't think every kid is ready. My son is big-boned. Some of his friends are super tiny and I would not be comfortable letting them play tackle if they were my kids.
Also - KCFC has weight limits on ball carriers. That also gives me comfort that these kids aren't trying to tackle a kid who hit a growth spurt at an early age. If they are too heavy, they are required to be on the line.
Thanks. Its one of those things where starting them early and teaching the fundamentals is good, but also opens them up to more head shots at an early age so I see both sides. I LOL at the weight limit thing. When I was a kid they had those too and it was very obvious that A)it was a self reported thing and B)if they did weigh the kids, one or two teams in my pee wee league starved the kids over the summer so they could hit weight at the beginning of the year. Every year it was terrifying playing them. This dude was a monster RB and just smoked us all.
KCFC is pretty strict on weight limits. Anthony Sherman took his kid's team to tackle starting last year, and decided not to do the KCFC league because of the weight limit. I think they play on the Missouri side somewhere. I've also heard he is running the Oklahoma drill with these kids....which is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. That is Sherman in a nutshell and his group of kids go all out for bball and baseball. They are peaking early and will get burned out before high school.
Our coaching staff is going to be extremely anal about fundamentals. You would think every team would think this way...but I honestly have no idea and I don't trust most people who are so adamant about tackle at this age.
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Post by: steve dave on March 19, 2024, 10:53:27 AM
I will be letting my son play tackle starting in the fall...and he will be in 4th grade. Wife and I were on the fence on this for quite some time for the obvious reasons.
Ultimately, we made our decision to let him play tackle due to the fact we are convinced he will get hurt playing flag. He has played flag for KCFC for 4 years now. Last year we played in the top division, and it was super competitive. There were multiple moments I thought we were going to see a mid-air head bang as the kids were going after a pass.
My son also plays RB...and he is very athletic at this point in his life. There were times kids would attempt to tackle and would get more aggressive than they should because of the level of difficulty he presented when going after his flag. Many of the injuries he sustained playing flag were due to collisions happening trying to bring him down. He would get a knee to the hip or thigh for example.
We are moving to tackle in hopes that the pads protect him a bit more. At this age they at least don't hit each other hard.
That being said, I don't think every kid is ready. My son is big-boned. Some of his friends are super tiny and I would not be comfortable letting them play tackle if they were my kids.
Also - KCFC has weight limits on ball carriers. That also gives me comfort that these kids aren't trying to tackle a kid who hit a growth spurt at an early age. If they are too heavy, they are required to be on the line.
Thanks. Its one of those things where starting them early and teaching the fundamentals is good, but also opens them up to more head shots at an early age so I see both sides. I LOL at the weight limit thing. When I was a kid they had those too and it was very obvious that A)it was a self reported thing and B)if they did weigh the kids, one or two teams in my pee wee league starved the kids over the summer so they could hit weight at the beginning of the year. Every year it was terrifying playing them. This dude was a monster RB and just smoked us all.
KCFC is pretty strict on weight limits. Anthony Sherman took his kid's team to tackle starting last year, and decided not to do the KCFC league because of the weight limit. I think they play on the Missouri side somewhere. I've also heard he is running the Oklahoma drill with these kids....which is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. That is Sherman in a nutshell and his group of kids go all out for bball and baseball. They are peaking early and will get burned out before high school.
Our coaching staff is going to be extremely anal about fundamentals. You would think every team would think this way...but I honestly have no idea and I don't trust most people who are so adamant about tackle at this age.
We play through MYFL in Nebraska and it is very strict on weight as well. Definitely not self reported. We have a designated weigh in day and have to have the whole team show up and get in line for weight. Then "stripers" are assigned to kids over the weight and they can only play on the line of scrimmage and can't carry the ball. Called striper because there is a stripe around their helmet. Our team didn't have a single striper last year. Most teams had a handful. Gave us fits on the interior line but ultimately we kicked most of their asses anyway. I think striper weight in 5th grade was 130 lbs+.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2024, 11:00:03 AM
What kind of athlete is good at water polo? Like if you had to field a team of kids that had never played which sport are you raiding for players?
Really tall people that can touch the bottom of the pool. :dunno:
obviously swimming is the biggest.
volleyball isn't the first sport I would think of but long limbs definitely help. Basketball, baseball, and even wrestling would all be good. So much is getting leverage and I think wrestling would help a ton. really any team sport with a spacing component would also be useful.
also it's illegal to touch the bottom! Most pools in California this isn't a problem but there's quite a few D1 programs with shallow/deep 25 yard pools in the Northeast. And the pool looks SMAAAALLLLLLL with a bunch of big dudes in a men's game. I go to games at LIU Brooklyn and they played Brown who has a bunch of like 6-5 dudes who kept turning it over because they touched the bottom (or the refs thought they touched the bottom). Also there is almost always a fight when I go to games at Brooklyn. One game the LIU men's volleyball came and was heckling like crazy and it was hilarious and kinda intense.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2024, 11:13:54 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2024, 11:14:17 AM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 19, 2024, 11:41:45 AM
Compare this Division 1 pool to that Texas pool
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wow, I always assumed the pool was super deep so they couldn't touch. You can't even dive in this tiny pool. How the hell is a 6'5" dude supposed to not touch the bottom? Also, do they have cameras or sensors or something?
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2024, 11:46:32 AM
No the refs just stand on the edge of the pool. I think they can kind of tell based on the speed and angle of how someone comes out of the water. I also think you can touch as long as you don't have the ball or making a play for the ball or pushing someone on defense.Compare this Division 1 pool to that Texas pool
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wow, I always assumed the pool was super deep so they couldn't touch. You can't even dive in this tiny pool. How the hell is a 6'5" dude supposed to not touch the bottom? Also, do they have cameras or sensors or something?
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2024, 01:20:10 PM
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 19, 2024, 01:40:02 PM
Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2024, 01:49:04 PM
Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
my daughter only considered schools that she would consider w/o polo. Although some she eliminated when she realized there wouldn't be a spot for her on the team and/or they brought on girls she hated. (I mean these girls are awful)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 19, 2024, 01:53:35 PM
Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
my daughter only considered schools that she would consider w/o polo. Although some she eliminated when she realized there wouldn't be a spot for her on the team and/or they brought on girls she hated. (I mean these girls are awful)
I bet when you were at KSU, you never in a million years thought your future self would be dealing with kid water polo drama.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2024, 01:59:11 PM
Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
my daughter only considered schools that she would consider w/o polo. Although some she eliminated when she realized there wouldn't be a spot for her on the team and/or they brought on girls she hated. (I mean these girls are awful)
I bet when you were at KSU, you never in a million years thought your future self would be dealing with kid water polo drama.
I didn't think I would be dealing with it 3 years ago. Also the girls in question are her "opps" from another club. Like I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to go to a school where she might run into them.
Post by: SleepFighter on March 20, 2024, 10:07:49 AM
Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
my daughter only considered schools that she would consider w/o polo. Although some she eliminated when she realized there wouldn't be a spot for her on the team and/or they brought on girls she hated. (I mean these girls are awful)
My son was in a fairly similar position, but in men's soccer. There are clearly more men's soccer programs than women's water polo programs, but it's still pretty tough.
For context, despite being an incredibly deep area for soccer talent, Texas has only four D1 men's soccer schools, and three of them are places most kids I know don't want to go (Houston Christian, Incarnate Word, and UT Rio Grande Valley, with SMU being the "good one"). The D2 and D3 options in Texas and the surrounding states are slim as well. The Venn diagram of schools with the right academics, geography, and athletics that fit your kid can be very small. Coaches that my kid was contacting were more or less not getting back to him, and schools that reached out to him were schools that he had no interest in for one reason or another.
As of 6 months ago, I thought my kid was going to end up at a big public school, as he had pretty much given up on the recruiting process. But before a a national showcase that he attended last October he contacted one school that he was interested in attending, just to see. They had a coach come out to watch him, and he liked what he saw, and things went really fast from there.
My kid got admitted, started talking to one of the assistants regularly, went on a visit where he stayed with some of the players and went to a camp, and then got an offer.
He knows a fair number of guys that have gone on to play college soccer, some have hated it, and some have loved it. I'm clearly hoping he falls into the latter category.
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2024, 10:28:48 AM
Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
my daughter only considered schools that she would consider w/o polo. Although some she eliminated when she realized there wouldn't be a spot for her on the team and/or they brought on girls she hated. (I mean these girls are awful)
My son was in a fairly similar position, but in men's soccer. There are clearly more men's soccer programs than women's water polo programs, but it's still pretty tough.
For context, despite being an incredibly deep area for soccer talent, Texas has only four D1 men's soccer schools, and three of them are places most kids I know don't want to go (Houston Christian, Incarnate Word, and UT Rio Grande Valley, with SMU being the "good one"). The D2 and D3 options in Texas and the surrounding states are slim as well. The Venn diagram of schools with the right academics, geography, and athletics that fit your kid can be very small. Coaches that my kid was contacting were more or less not getting back to him, and schools that reached out to him were schools that he had no interest in for one reason or another.
As of 6 months ago, I thought my kid was going to end up at a big public school, as he had pretty much given up on the recruiting process. But before a a national showcase that he attended last October he contacted one school that he was interested in attending, just to see. They had a coach come out to watch him, and he liked what he saw, and things went really fast from there.
My kid got admitted, started talking to one of the assistants regularly, went on a visit where he stayed with some of the players and went to a camp, and then got an offer.
He knows a fair number of guys that have gone on to play college soccer, some have hated it, and some have loved it. I'm clearly hoping he falls into the latter category.
contacting coaches is the worst. Like, you're a teenage girl emailing a middle aged guy who will either ignore you or tell you that you aren't good enough at the thing you love most. On top of other college rejections. She was in communication with coaches at her top choice academic school and they were very communicative and supportive but wouldn't commit to admission support and she ended up applying early and getting rejected, but one of her best friends in water polo got admitted. It really shitty! I will say though that one coach that reached out to her separately tried to recruit her but she wasn't interested and he offered to refer her to other coaches because he liked her and he was a nice guy! And he did! Still uncommitted and waiting on a few more admissions decisions.
Post by: SleepFighter on March 20, 2024, 10:54:40 AM
Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
my daughter only considered schools that she would consider w/o polo. Although some she eliminated when she realized there wouldn't be a spot for her on the team and/or they brought on girls she hated. (I mean these girls are awful)
My son was in a fairly similar position, but in men's soccer. There are clearly more men's soccer programs than women's water polo programs, but it's still pretty tough.
For context, despite being an incredibly deep area for soccer talent, Texas has only four D1 men's soccer schools, and three of them are places most kids I know don't want to go (Houston Christian, Incarnate Word, and UT Rio Grande Valley, with SMU being the "good one"). The D2 and D3 options in Texas and the surrounding states are slim as well. The Venn diagram of schools with the right academics, geography, and athletics that fit your kid can be very small. Coaches that my kid was contacting were more or less not getting back to him, and schools that reached out to him were schools that he had no interest in for one reason or another.
As of 6 months ago, I thought my kid was going to end up at a big public school, as he had pretty much given up on the recruiting process. But before a a national showcase that he attended last October he contacted one school that he was interested in attending, just to see. They had a coach come out to watch him, and he liked what he saw, and things went really fast from there.
My kid got admitted, started talking to one of the assistants regularly, went on a visit where he stayed with some of the players and went to a camp, and then got an offer.
He knows a fair number of guys that have gone on to play college soccer, some have hated it, and some have loved it. I'm clearly hoping he falls into the latter category.
contacting coaches is the worst. Like, you're a teenage girl emailing a middle aged guy who will either ignore you or tell you that you aren't good enough at the thing you love most. On top of other college rejections. She was in communication with coaches at her top choice academic school and they were very communicative and supportive but wouldn't commit to admission support and she ended up applying early and getting rejected, but one of her best friends in water polo got admitted. It really shitty! I will say though that one coach that reached out to her separately tried to recruit her but she wasn't interested and he offered to refer her to other coaches because he liked her and he was a nice guy! And he did! Still uncommitted and waiting on a few more admissions decisions.
The weekend my son made his visit, he was one of 7 kids that got there a few days before a one day camp that had 30 kids show up. One of the other 7 kids was a friend of his from his club team. That kid was in the same spot as my son, either this situation was going to work out, or he wasn't going to play soccer in college. My son got the offer, but that kid didn't. So even getting the offer that he wanted wasn't without mixed emotions.
It is so incredibly tough, with so much heartache along the way. The good news is that it only takes one school for it to work out. I really hope it works out for your daughter.
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2024, 05:06:26 PM
I will be letting my son play tackle starting in the fall...and he will be in 4th grade. Wife and I were on the fence on this for quite some time for the obvious reasons.
Ultimately, we made our decision to let him play tackle due to the fact we are convinced he will get hurt playing flag. He has played flag for KCFC for 4 years now. Last year we played in the top division, and it was super competitive. There were multiple moments I thought we were going to see a mid-air head bang as the kids were going after a pass.
My son also plays RB...and he is very athletic at this point in his life. There were times kids would attempt to tackle and would get more aggressive than they should because of the level of difficulty he presented when going after his flag. Many of the injuries he sustained playing flag were due to collisions happening trying to bring him down. He would get a knee to the hip or thigh for example.
We are moving to tackle in hopes that the pads protect him a bit more. At this age they at least don't hit each other hard.
That being said, I don't think every kid is ready. My son is big-boned. Some of his friends are super tiny and I would not be comfortable letting them play tackle if they were my kids.
Also - KCFC has weight limits on ball carriers. That also gives me comfort that these kids aren't trying to tackle a kid who hit a growth spurt at an early age. If they are too heavy, they are required to be on the line.
Thanks. Its one of those things where starting them early and teaching the fundamentals is good, but also opens them up to more head shots at an early age so I see both sides. I LOL at the weight limit thing. When I was a kid they had those too and it was very obvious that A)it was a self reported thing and B)if they did weigh the kids, one or two teams in my pee wee league starved the kids over the summer so they could hit weight at the beginning of the year. Every year it was terrifying playing them. This dude was a monster RB and just smoked us all.
KCFC is pretty strict on weight limits. Anthony Sherman took his kid's team to tackle starting last year, and decided not to do the KCFC league because of the weight limit. I think they play on the Missouri side somewhere. I've also heard he is running the Oklahoma drill with these kids....which is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. That is Sherman in a nutshell and his group of kids go all out for bball and baseball. They are peaking early and will get burned out before high school.
Our coaching staff is going to be extremely anal about fundamentals. You would think every team would think this way...but I honestly have no idea and I don't trust most people who are so adamant about tackle at this age.
We play through MYFL in Nebraska and it is very strict on weight as well. Definitely not self reported. We have a designated weigh in day and have to have the whole team show up and get in line for weight. Then "stripers" are assigned to kids over the weight and they can only play on the line of scrimmage and can't carry the ball. Called striper because there is a stripe around their helmet. Our team didn't have a single striper last year. Most teams had a handful. Gave us fits on the interior line but ultimately we kicked most of their asses anyway. I think striper weight in 5th grade was 130 lbs+.
We used to call them fat patches when I played out at heritage park back in the day. Definitely needed though. You don't need the 5-9 160lb'er who has a beard running over some 5'0 100lb 7th grader whose balls have not dropped yet.
IIRC we also had a "Heavyweight" and "Lightweight" division in grades 5-7ish.
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Post by: steve dave on March 21, 2024, 11:21:39 AM
Looks cool. Now you get to add video editing and production to your list of duties!Nope, just streaming games. Did it last season as well. Gamechanger really is an incredible software.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2024, 11:32:14 AM
Oh they have TWO cameras attached to the fence and a team branded shade tent? Yeah prepare for a Karenfest pal.
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 12:39:38 PM
that’s awesome. your son should rub that crap into his buddy’s face for the rest of eternity.Finally, we are in the home stretch for competitive little kid sports in my household. Going to California this weekend for a USA Water Polo event, Texas in April, then back to California in June and July.
Then maybe water polo in college? Depends on where she gets accepted but a couple schools have indicated spots on the varsity teams if admitted. Miserable stuff, just send your kids to KU or K-State and do not try to get recruited in an obscure sport or go to a school with competitive admissions.
Ha, I know at least 3-4 dudes from college that played football right out of high school, but ended up at KSU after a year. Just couldn't give up the dream which I totally get, but they were apparently pretty jealous of their HS buds partying and hanging out while they were back to being a nobody on a college team.
my daughter only considered schools that she would consider w/o polo. Although some she eliminated when she realized there wouldn't be a spot for her on the team and/or they brought on girls she hated. (I mean these girls are awful)
My son was in a fairly similar position, but in men's soccer. There are clearly more men's soccer programs than women's water polo programs, but it's still pretty tough.
For context, despite being an incredibly deep area for soccer talent, Texas has only four D1 men's soccer schools, and three of them are places most kids I know don't want to go (Houston Christian, Incarnate Word, and UT Rio Grande Valley, with SMU being the "good one"). The D2 and D3 options in Texas and the surrounding states are slim as well. The Venn diagram of schools with the right academics, geography, and athletics that fit your kid can be very small. Coaches that my kid was contacting were more or less not getting back to him, and schools that reached out to him were schools that he had no interest in for one reason or another.
As of 6 months ago, I thought my kid was going to end up at a big public school, as he had pretty much given up on the recruiting process. But before a a national showcase that he attended last October he contacted one school that he was interested in attending, just to see. They had a coach come out to watch him, and he liked what he saw, and things went really fast from there.
My kid got admitted, started talking to one of the assistants regularly, went on a visit where he stayed with some of the players and went to a camp, and then got an offer.
He knows a fair number of guys that have gone on to play college soccer, some have hated it, and some have loved it. I'm clearly hoping he falls into the latter category.
contacting coaches is the worst. Like, you're a teenage girl emailing a middle aged guy who will either ignore you or tell you that you aren't good enough at the thing you love most. On top of other college rejections. She was in communication with coaches at her top choice academic school and they were very communicative and supportive but wouldn't commit to admission support and she ended up applying early and getting rejected, but one of her best friends in water polo got admitted. It really shitty! I will say though that one coach that reached out to her separately tried to recruit her but she wasn't interested and he offered to refer her to other coaches because he liked her and he was a nice guy! And he did! Still uncommitted and waiting on a few more admissions decisions.
The weekend my son made his visit, he was one of 7 kids that got there a few days before a one day camp that had 30 kids show up. One of the other 7 kids was a friend of his from his club team. That kid was in the same spot as my son, either this situation was going to work out, or he wasn't going to play soccer in college. My son got the offer, but that kid didn't. So even getting the offer that he wanted wasn't without mixed emotions.
It is so incredibly tough, with so much heartache along the way. The good news is that it only takes one school for it to work out. I really hope it works out for your daughter.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 21, 2024, 02:11:13 PM
Working baseball games there is a direct correlation between the amount of extra crap a team has (cameras, radar guns, speakers for walk up music) and how Kareny the moms are.
Oh they have TWO cameras attached to the fence and a team branded shade tent? Yeah prepare for a Karenfest pal.
I've found this to be 100% fact. Plus, many of the dads are even worse.
Post by: steve dave on March 22, 2024, 01:46:35 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 22, 2024, 01:58:48 PM
good news everyone, we cancelled our double header for this saturday because the weather is crap. bad news everyone, we replaced it with 3 hours of indoor practice. HAVE A GREAT "WEEKEND"!
I thought you were in charge? If you are in charge, I say this on behalf of all of your kids teammates and parents, YOU SUCK!!!
Post by: steve dave on March 22, 2024, 03:41:43 PM
good news everyone, we cancelled our double header for this saturday because the weather is crap. bad news everyone, we replaced it with 3 hours of indoor practice. HAVE A GREAT "WEEKEND"!
I thought you were in charge? If you are in charge, I say this on behalf of all of your kids teammates and parents, YOU SUCK!!!
https://twitter.com/coachcasey13u/status/1742705437240381837
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 03, 2024, 03:52:25 PM
Think I may grab a drop 8 for lil sd later this year. Gotta start weighting up. Can use a -10 for two more seasons but would rather start working it in now. Right now he's swinging a 30" -10. Our team ranges from 28" -10 to 31" -8 (kid is a massive beefcake and hits nukes).
I debated moving Lil SF up to 30 drop 10, but didn't want to mess with it so I stuck with 29. Prob should have, but whatever. He was super pissed at me yesterday when I said he couldn't use the new bat at practice because it was like 40 degrees. Got to keep that thing hot for games Lil dude!
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2024, 03:55:50 PM
Think I may grab a drop 8 for lil sd later this year. Gotta start weighting up. Can use a -10 for two more seasons but would rather start working it in now. Right now he's swinging a 30" -10. Our team ranges from 28" -10 to 31" -8 (kid is a massive beefcake and hits nukes).
I debated moving Lil SF up to 30 drop 10, but didn't want to mess with it so I stuck with 29. Prob should have, but whatever. He was super pissed at me yesterday when I said he couldn't use the new bat at practice because it was like 40 degrees. Got to keep that thing hot for games Lil dude!
yep, we're multiple scrimmages and 3 games into the season and lil sd hasn't pulled the composite out yet. He has a Cat9 Connect he swings when cold and in the cage. CatX composite when it's warm enough.
Also, not sure if you guys have seen these but we bought a truckload of "tater balls" we use in the cage. Allows the kids to swing their gamers without wearing them down too much. Highly recommend. First ball that flies like a baseball out of the hack attack.
https://thetaterball.com/shop/the-taterball-baseball/
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 03, 2024, 04:09:30 PM
Think I may grab a drop 8 for lil sd later this year. Gotta start weighting up. Can use a -10 for two more seasons but would rather start working it in now. Right now he's swinging a 30" -10. Our team ranges from 28" -10 to 31" -8 (kid is a massive beefcake and hits nukes).
I debated moving Lil SF up to 30 drop 10, but didn't want to mess with it so I stuck with 29. Prob should have, but whatever. He was super pissed at me yesterday when I said he couldn't use the new bat at practice because it was like 40 degrees. Got to keep that thing hot for games Lil dude!
yep, we're multiple scrimmages and 3 games into the season and lil sd hasn't pulled the composite out yet. He has a Cat9 Connect he swings when cold and in the cage. CatX composite when it's warm enough.
Also, not sure if you guys have seen these but we bought a truckload of "tater balls" we use in the cage. Allows the kids to swing their gamers without wearing them down too much. Highly recommend. First ball that flies like a baseball out of the hack attack.
https://thetaterball.com/shop/the-taterball-baseball/
nice. Same, got the Cat 9 last year that is already beat up a bit. We normally just use the collapsable wiffles in the back yard. Also have one of those heavy balls that I make him hit a few times to try and swing through. That thing is prob terrible for bats as well.
Post by: nicname on April 03, 2024, 05:26:47 PM
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Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2024, 10:53:08 PM
catchers are legitimately the toughest and most important people on the planet when it comes to sports. QBs can kiss my ass.
Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2024, 12:53:54 AM
our catcher is sick AF and missed a mid week game tonight and we got our asses whipped. it has never been more apparent how important catching is because folks....it was bad. dropped third strikes, blocking balls, calling pitches and picks, the works.
catchers are legitimately the toughest and most important people on the planet when it comes to sports. QBs can kiss my ass.
Isn't your son the catcher?
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2024, 07:19:35 AM
Yes, but irrelevantour catcher is sick AF and missed a mid week game tonight and we got our asses whipped. it has never been more apparent how important catching is because folks....it was bad. dropped third strikes, blocking balls, calling pitches and picks, the works.
catchers are legitimately the toughest and most important people on the planet when it comes to sports. QBs can kiss my ass.
Isn't your son the catcher?
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 05, 2024, 09:49:02 AM
Also he’s now admitted to Children’s with O2 levels of 88 and diminished lungs both sides. :-(
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Oh man, sorry SD.
Our best player will catch every once in a while. He is amazing wherever he plays which is mostly short, but I honestly think he is a better catcher even though he only does it once in a while. Our regular catcher is fine, but when the other kid is back there its a completely different story. Nothing gets by him and its just effortless. It makes little kid games so much better when the catcher is good. Pitching is obviously the most important, but even if he is throwing strikes, kids games completely suck ass when the catcher isn't great.
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Post by: OB_Won on April 08, 2024, 02:08:10 PM
PG banned the Hype Fire -5, USSSA will most likely follow suit. Imagine spending $400 on a bat and you can't even use it.MF...yes, imagine :facepalm:
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 08, 2024, 02:18:04 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2024, 02:19:28 PM
I have the hype -10. I think its last years version. Am I screwed too? If so, I now understand why I got such a good deal.
not yet, just the -5 so far. reviews all say the -5 is the hottest so probably will be good.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 08, 2024, 02:21:45 PM
I have the hype -10. I think its last years version. Am I screwed too? If so, I now understand why I got such a good deal.
not yet, just the -5 so far. reviews all say the -5 is the hottest so probably will be good.
Thanks, I assume I'll be fine since its last years model. How do they make these determination? Like, does the season start and coaches start noticing a bunch of rockets being hit by a certain brand?
Post by: OB_Won on April 08, 2024, 02:23:48 PM
Oh good deal. My son has the drop 10, but I was guessing that would be following soon.I have the hype -10. I think its last years version. Am I screwed too? If so, I now understand why I got such a good deal.
not yet, just the -5 so far. reviews all say the -5 is the hottest so probably will be good.
Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2024, 03:40:08 PM
seems like the technology and materials advancement has outpaced the game.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 08, 2024, 03:56:17 PM
so this touches on an issue that i’ve been wondering about ever since I first picked up one of these bats. it’s ridiculous how lightweight and “hot” they are. i immediately wondered to myself how they were legal and accepted. i’m not suggesting that they should be using wooden bats, although college probably should be.
seems like the technology and materials advancement has outpaced the game.
I may be talking out my ass here, but I think they actually have less pop than they used to. I think the old college bats that you heard the "ping" were hotter so they added the new version with required specs. I may have made that whole thing up though.
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2024, 04:02:56 PM
No, the hottest bats are composite and sound like a snapping branch when you hit with them. The alloy bats have generally less pop and still give that ping. Composite bats don’t have a long life and can’t be hit in cold weather because they will break. Also you don’t want to use them in the cage because you’re shortening that lifespan. Most kids will have an alloy metal bat and composite bat in their bat pack. Like there are Marucci bats in the same line (ie CatX) that are alloy, composite handle/alloy barrel, and two piece composite. Lil sd carries the second and third ones.so this touches on an issue that i’ve been wondering about ever since I first picked up one of these bats. it’s ridiculous how lightweight and “hot” they are. i immediately wondered to myself how they were legal and accepted. i’m not suggesting that they should be using wooden bats, although college probably should be.
seems like the technology and materials advancement has outpaced the game.
I may be talking out my ass here, but I think they actually have less pop than they used to. I think the old college bats that you heard the "ping" were hotter so they added the new version with required specs. I may have made that whole thing up though.
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Post by: nicname on April 08, 2024, 05:50:10 PM
The first certification was BESR, which tamed the bats and required hs/college players to use drop 3 bats.
Several years later BBCOR became the certification, and deaded bats even more. So, now the bat companies do all they can to max out the bats within the BBCOR certification. So they come out with new bats all the time, and new technology, but it really doesn’t amount to much other than combinations of swing-weight, sweet-spot/forgiveness, and pop. Today’s bats can’t hold a candle to the bats of the late 90s and early 2000s.
It’s different for USSSA certification, which is what little kids use, especially competitive teams. They make those bats as hot as they can and turn youth baseball into an industrial complex for rich suburbanites. USSSA cert is generally for -10 to -5 bats.
Compare a drop 5 usssa to a drop 3 BBCOR and you will see the difference immediately.
There is also USA baseball certification for little league, etc. which significantly deadens the bat and minimizes forgiveness and sweetspot.
Edit: every so often a USSSA bat will be released that is deemed “too hot” and get removed from tournament use.
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Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2024, 06:31:52 PM
Old college/hs bats were hotter than any bat a hs or college player can use today. There were no certifications, and the technology was pretty advanced at that point. Hs and College players were also using drop 5s.thanks, very helpful. you also touched on a concern I had but didn’t express and that is what you’re calling the industrial complex for the steve dave’s of the world.
The first certification was BESR, which tamed the bats and required hs/college players to use drop 3 bats.
Several years later BBCOR became the certification, and deaded bats even more. So, now the bat companies do all they can to max out the bats within the BBCOR certification. So they come out with new bats all the time, and new technology, but it really doesn’t amount to much other than combinations of swing-weight, sweet-spot/forgiveness, and pop. Today’s bats can’t hold a candle to the bats of the late 90s and early 2000s.
It’s different for USSSA certification, which is what little kids use, especially competitive teams. They make those bats as hot as they can and turn youth baseball into an industrial complex for rich suburbanites. USSSA cert is generally for -10 to -5 bats.
Compare a drop 5 usssa to a drop 3 BBCOR and you will see the difference immediately.
There is also USA baseball certification for little league, etc. which significantly deadens the bat and minimizes forgiveness and sweetspot.
Edit: every so often a USSSA bat will be released that is deemed “too hot” and get removed from tournament use.
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Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2024, 09:25:01 PM
Soccer kids just get to ogle cleats, shin guards and grip socks.i think they call them boots
Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2024, 09:27:14 PM
It’s all sports. Sports aren’t for the poor.too broad of a brush. sports absolutely offer a ray of hope and opportunity for underprivileged children.
Post by: OB_Won on April 08, 2024, 10:23:26 PM
These HBO Real Sports segments paint a different picture, where only the very most athletic unprivileged kids will have a chance.It’s all sports. Sports aren’t for the poor.too broad of a brush. sports absolutely offer a ray of hope and opportunity for underprivileged children.
https://youtu.be/AGxxBER5xJU?si=Qn4pRLtdpzP67Y2x
https://youtu.be/9ATwFkYpVys?si=-AFmhscIQNDzmB14
Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2024, 10:47:45 PM
I linked that very same episode earlier in this thread but for other reasons. i’d rather not get any further into this topic than we already are so i’ll just peace out.These HBO Real Sports segments paint a different picture, where only the very most athletic unprivileged kids will have a chance.It’s all sports. Sports aren’t for the poor.too broad of a brush. sports absolutely offer a ray of hope and opportunity for underprivileged children.
https://youtu.be/AGxxBER5xJU?si=Qn4pRLtdpzP67Y2x
https://youtu.be/9ATwFkYpVys?si=-AFmhscIQNDzmB14
Post by: schreds21 on April 08, 2024, 10:50:50 PM
One of the numerous reasons I despise youth sports in its current formOld college/hs bats were hotter than any bat a hs or college player can use today. There were no certifications, and the technology was pretty advanced at that point. Hs and College players were also using drop 5s.thanks, very helpful. you also touched on a concern I had but didn’t express and that is what you’re calling the industrial complex for the steve dave’s of the world.
The first certification was BESR, which tamed the bats and required hs/college players to use drop 3 bats.
Several years later BBCOR became the certification, and deaded bats even more. So, now the bat companies do all they can to max out the bats within the BBCOR certification. So they come out with new bats all the time, and new technology, but it really doesn’t amount to much other than combinations of swing-weight, sweet-spot/forgiveness, and pop. Today’s bats can’t hold a candle to the bats of the late 90s and early 2000s.
It’s different for USSSA certification, which is what little kids use, especially competitive teams. They make those bats as hot as they can and turn youth baseball into an industrial complex for rich suburbanites. USSSA cert is generally for -10 to -5 bats.
Compare a drop 5 usssa to a drop 3 BBCOR and you will see the difference immediately.
There is also USA baseball certification for little league, etc. which significantly deadens the bat and minimizes forgiveness and sweetspot.
Edit: every so often a USSSA bat will be released that is deemed “too hot” and get removed from tournament use.
Post by: Justwin on April 09, 2024, 12:58:13 AM
One of the numerous reasons I despise youth sports in its current formOld college/hs bats were hotter than any bat a hs or college player can use today. There were no certifications, and the technology was pretty advanced at that point. Hs and College players were also using drop 5s.thanks, very helpful. you also touched on a concern I had but didn’t express and that is what you’re calling the industrial complex for the steve dave’s of the world.
The first certification was BESR, which tamed the bats and required hs/college players to use drop 3 bats.
Several years later BBCOR became the certification, and deaded bats even more. So, now the bat companies do all they can to max out the bats within the BBCOR certification. So they come out with new bats all the time, and new technology, but it really doesn’t amount to much other than combinations of swing-weight, sweet-spot/forgiveness, and pop. Today’s bats can’t hold a candle to the bats of the late 90s and early 2000s.
It’s different for USSSA certification, which is what little kids use, especially competitive teams. They make those bats as hot as they can and turn youth baseball into an industrial complex for rich suburbanites. USSSA cert is generally for -10 to -5 bats.
Compare a drop 5 usssa to a drop 3 BBCOR and you will see the difference immediately.
There is also USA baseball certification for little league, etc. which significantly deadens the bat and minimizes forgiveness and sweetspot.
Edit: every so often a USSSA bat will be released that is deemed “too hot” and get removed from tournament use.
What would youth sports be in its ideal form for you?
Post by: Kat Kid on April 09, 2024, 08:59:01 AM
Caveats— I don’t know if it is accurate and I am generalizing
They had kids in youth soccer from about 6 on. They built a dome for soccer in the middle of town (it is Norway). They had an excellent coach. They only practiced 2x a week but left the doors unlocked to the facility so it was open access pretty much 24/7. They had pickup games every Saturday. They did not cut, they let kids choose how often they came to practice when they were like 11-12, 2x a week or 4x a week. Again they didn’t cut and they only started competing in tournaments regionally at 13+. I don’t know what the fees were, but it seemed like most of the expenditures were public not pay to play.
That sounds better in pretty much every way.
And it produced several pros, not just Haaland. I don’t care if my kid plays beyond HS or even in HS if they do more than ride the bench tbh, I just want them to have something they can get better at that is active and with a team.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 09, 2024, 09:36:00 AM
I saw a thread about youth soccer in the 12,000 person town Erling Haaland grew up in and that sounded idyllic.
Caveats— I don’t know if it is accurate and I am generalizing
They had kids in youth soccer from about 6 on. They built a dome for soccer in the middle of town (it is Norway). They had an excellent coach. They only practiced 2x a week but left the doors unlocked to the facility so it was open access pretty much 24/7. They had pickup games every Saturday. They did not cut, they let kids choose how often they came to practice when they were like 11-12, 2x a week or 4x a week. Again they didn’t cut and they only started competing in tournaments regionally at 13+. I don’t know what the fees were, but it seemed like most of the expenditures were public not pay to play.
That sounds better in pretty much every way.
And it produced several pros, not just Haaland. I don’t care if my kid plays beyond HS or even in HS if they do more than ride the bench tbh, I just want them to have something they can get better at that is active and with a team.
Yeah, this sounds pretty great. I feel like outside of small towns, US cities/suburbs are just too segmented. The above sounds awesome, but that 12k person town would be like 7 different cities/towns in the KC area. I'm not sure what the fix is. Its a combo of so many different issues. The main problem is that 95% of kids playing sports should be playing in rec leagues with like 5% playing "competitive or travel". For some reason, that % that I just made up got flipped and rec leagues are hard to find or non existent because everyone is on a different competitive team. Its dumb.
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 09:43:41 AM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 09, 2024, 09:57:53 AM
IMO what would be best for kids would be more pickup/unstructured play and less specialization and travel in general for younger kids especially. I think most people agree with this but it won't ever change significantly in the US because there is too much money in tournaments and clubs and private coaching and stuff.
Yep, this can be copied to the getting old thread, but we played football, basketball, and baseball all day every day growing up. It was just kids meeting up and deciding which sport to play that day and we would play all day and in to the night. Practice was like 1 day a week in whichever sport was in season. We just played without parents telling us what to do every 3 seconds. It makes me sad thinking about it. As I said above, Lil SF appears to be getting tired of his competitive baseball team and I suspect this may be his last year. I have zero doubts that he would be doing the exact same thing I did every day as a kid if he had the opportunity. He just loves to play which is totally fine and what most kids probably want to do. :shakesfist: :cyclist: :shakesfist:
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Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 10:27:16 AM
Do they not just have, like, YMCA leagues anymore?
they exist but I would say they start too young and end too young. (at least for like, basketball). Like I think organized basketball for 5 year olds is just absurd and they seem to really drop off before middle school. Our local soccer org started with a select travel team in second or third grade. We were pretty lucky to have a low-key local swim and water polo club that let our daughter fall in love with those sports in a relaxed environment and led to more competitive clubs in high school
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Post by: schreds21 on April 09, 2024, 01:30:02 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 09, 2024, 01:36:08 PM
My affinity for pickup games and lack of specialization has nothing to do with nostalgia, I think it's a better way to get kids good at sports and leads to less burnout and fewer injuries. There's a lot of research on it
Same with me. I'm fine with the "good" kids moving on. I ended up being a pretty decent smaller town baseball player. I sucked ass my first couple of years of kid pitch though. Had all my friends moved on to other teams or if my only other option was to hope to get on a competitive team that practiced every day, I may have not stuck with it, who knows. Some kids just need some time for it to click. I'd love my kid to be one of those hyper competitive dudes he plays with and against, but he just isn't. Sure I could dump him on a random rec league in JOCO where he would probably whoop ass again, but I highly doubt he will want to join a random team where he doesn't know anyone.
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2024, 01:41:30 PM
My affinity for pickup games and lack of specialization has nothing to do with nostalgia, I think it's a better way to get kids good at sports and leads to less burnout and fewer injuries. There's a lot of research on it
Same with me. I'm fine with the "good" kids moving on. I ended up being a pretty decent smaller town baseball player. I sucked ass my first couple of years of kid pitch though. Had all my friends moved on to other teams or if my only other option was to hope to get on a competitive team that practiced every day, I may have not stuck with it, who knows. Some kids just need some time for it to click. I'd love my kid to be one of those hyper competitive dudes he plays with and against, but he just isn't. Sure I could dump him on a random rec league in JOCO where he would probably whoop ass again, but I highly doubt he will want to join a random team where he doesn't know anyone.
FWIW, I also think "good" kids would benefit from playing a variety of sports in less-structured environments with various levels of competition. Specifically it's a way to take on different roles, improvise and experiment in a no-risk environment, and of course reduce injury risk due to repetitive movements.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 09, 2024, 01:55:07 PM
I guess if your kids are having a great time, and you don't mind the time and expense, then I have no standing to complain. Just make sure they're taking intellectual pursuits just as or more seriously, since they'll almost certainly go pro in something other than sports :thumbs:
Uh, yeah, so about that. Head on out to any 10-16 year old baseball tournament and I can assure you that every kid there is going to be a pro baseball player!!! The parents will tell you. ha. Kidding for the most part. There really is a level of delusion that goes on with some of these people though. I talked to a guy fairly recently at a game. He lives in KS but he is a big MU guy. I was joking around and I asked him if he was going send his kids to Kstate or if he was going to stump for out of state at MU. His answer was, "they will go to whatever school recruits them". I was like, uh, that kid out there???
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Post by: nicname on April 10, 2024, 12:20:48 AM
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Post by: Justwin on April 10, 2024, 02:55:30 PM
I saw a thread about youth soccer in the 12,000 person town Erling Haaland grew up in and that sounded idyllic.
Caveats— I don’t know if it is accurate and I am generalizing
They had kids in youth soccer from about 6 on. They built a dome for soccer in the middle of town (it is Norway). They had an excellent coach. They only practiced 2x a week but left the doors unlocked to the facility so it was open access pretty much 24/7. They had pickup games every Saturday. They did not cut, they let kids choose how often they came to practice when they were like 11-12, 2x a week or 4x a week. Again they didn’t cut and they only started competing in tournaments regionally at 13+. I don’t know what the fees were, but it seemed like most of the expenditures were public not pay to play.
That sounds better in pretty much every way.
And it produced several pros, not just Haaland. I don’t care if my kid plays beyond HS or even in HS if they do more than ride the bench tbh, I just want them to have something they can get better at that is active and with a team.
Are there facilities and a set up like this in this town for football, basketball, hockey, baseball, softball and volleyball as well?
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2024, 03:50:51 PM
I saw a thread about youth soccer in the 12,000 person town Erling Haaland grew up in and that sounded idyllic.
Caveats— I don’t know if it is accurate and I am generalizing
They had kids in youth soccer from about 6 on. They built a dome for soccer in the middle of town (it is Norway). They had an excellent coach. They only practiced 2x a week but left the doors unlocked to the facility so it was open access pretty much 24/7. They had pickup games every Saturday. They did not cut, they let kids choose how often they came to practice when they were like 11-12, 2x a week or 4x a week. Again they didn’t cut and they only started competing in tournaments regionally at 13+. I don’t know what the fees were, but it seemed like most of the expenditures were public not pay to play.
That sounds better in pretty much every way.
And it produced several pros, not just Haaland. I don’t care if my kid plays beyond HS or even in HS if they do more than ride the bench tbh, I just want them to have something they can get better at that is active and with a team.
Are there facilities and a set up like this in this town for football, basketball, hockey, baseball, softball and volleyball as well?
I spent about 5 minutes on google maps and it looks like there is for handball and karate and basketball and a town 10 minutes away has ice hockey. from the hockey club website it looks like they have a similar philosophy
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IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO START
We want everyone to experience how fun it is to rush across the ice and put the puck in the goal. As new, there will be a steep learning curve, a good dose of mastery and a lot of sporting joy. Ice hockey is a social team sport where we have fun at training, matches, camps and tournaments. At the youth hockey school, some have played before, often for several years, while others are completely new. No matter what level you start at, we build up your skills. For some it is adaptation and basic skills, while for others it is further development and a focus on progression. Some activities everyone takes part in, other times we divide into groups so that everyone gets challenges and experiences mastery at their own level. The hockey school has two training sessions a week and plays matches against other hockey schools. Check the ice schedule about which days there is training.
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In Bryne handball club, the common thread is the joy of sport, togetherness and inclusion. We have room for all types of talent.
The most important thing is to have fun - together!
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 10, 2024, 09:50:47 PM
Although their customs on not feeding guests is horrendous.
Post by: Cire on April 10, 2024, 09:54:12 PM
Is it that hard to believe we could learn something from the Nordics? I think we could learn a lot.You mean, you go to someone’s house and no snacks out on the island/counter?
Although their customs on not feeding guests is horrendous.
Or there’s pickled herring with and without sour cream and crackers but that’s all
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2024, 09:07:55 AM
Post by: Justwin on April 11, 2024, 10:44:16 AM
Is it that hard to believe we could learn something from the Nordics? I think we could learn a lot.
Although their customs on not feeding guests is horrendous.
Who is saying we can't learn anything from the Nordics?
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2024, 10:50:03 AM
Sounds like no one.Is it that hard to believe we could learn something from the Nordics? I think we could learn a lot.
Although their customs on not feeding guests is horrendous.
Who is saying we can't learn anything from the Nordics?
Post by: Justwin on April 11, 2024, 10:58:58 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 11, 2024, 11:06:01 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2024, 11:12:51 AM
Post by: Spracne on April 11, 2024, 11:20:10 AM
I don't want to eat Nordic food anyway
I guess you're not a skier? Somehow, all that pickled fish produces the best skiers in the world.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2024, 02:02:10 PM
For example, I think Sweden has set a great example by partially privatizing their Social Security system.I admit I started it, but let’s not pit this up.
I’m curious what you think about the model for youth sports as compared with our pay to play system. I think rec leagues from our youth are probably overly romanticized but covid for sure killed off MPRD sports in MHK and I think that was a loss for the community.
I also think generally that open gyms or pick up for basketball and regular pick up games for soccer and vital for the health of the sports. I think we are too far gone on baseball in the states but pick up game culture is sports culture for most of the world.
Post by: nicname on April 11, 2024, 03:07:09 PM
For example, I think Sweden has set a great example by partially privatizing their Social Security system.I admit I started it, but let’s not pit this up.
I’m curious what you think about the model for youth sports as compared with our pay to play system. I think rec leagues from our youth are probably overly romanticized but covid for sure killed off MPRD sports in MHK and I think that was a loss for the community.
I also think generally that open gyms or pick up for basketball and regular pick up games for soccer and vital for the health of the sports. I think we are too far gone on baseball in the states but pick up game culture is sports culture for most of the world.
Funnily, as a small government guy, I typically find sports (especially youth, school, college) the perfect place for government intervention.
Post by: Justwin on April 12, 2024, 09:34:53 AM
For example, I think Sweden has set a great example by partially privatizing their Social Security system.I admit I started it, but let’s not pit this up.
I’m curious what you think about the model for youth sports as compared with our pay to play system. I think rec leagues from our youth are probably overly romanticized but covid for sure killed off MPRD sports in MHK and I think that was a loss for the community.
I also think generally that open gyms or pick up for basketball and regular pick up games for soccer and vital for the health of the sports. I think we are too far gone on baseball in the states but pick up game culture is sports culture for most of the world.
I do not particularly like pay for play. I am most familiar with youth soccer and my thoughts will primarily be based off my experiences in youth soccer.
Nothing is going to change in US youth soccer until there is the introduction of solidarity payments as there is in much of the world of soccer. There is a good chance that this is what makes the facilities in Bryne, Norway possible. The US Soccer Federation should be handsomely rewarding clubs who produce players that make the various national teams and/or play at a high level. They have a lot of money and waste it on their cronies. There is never going to be some sort of government support for youth sports and I wouldn't be in favor of it. Solidarity payments would completely change how youth soccer operates.
I also am not convinced that pick up game culture is the sports culture in Europe. I'm sure there are plenty of kids playing pick up soccer games, but the ones that are good are going to club Academies at young ages.
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2024, 10:16:46 AM
is that through scholarships to the academies?For example, I think Sweden has set a great example by partially privatizing their Social Security system.I admit I started it, but let’s not pit this up.
I’m curious what you think about the model for youth sports as compared with our pay to play system. I think rec leagues from our youth are probably overly romanticized but covid for sure killed off MPRD sports in MHK and I think that was a loss for the community.
I also think generally that open gyms or pick up for basketball and regular pick up games for soccer and vital for the health of the sports. I think we are too far gone on baseball in the states but pick up game culture is sports culture for most of the world.
I do not particularly like pay for play. I am most familiar with youth soccer and my thoughts will primarily be based off my experiences in youth soccer.
Nothing is going to change in US youth soccer until there is the introduction of solidarity payments as there is in much of the world of soccer. There is a good chance that this is what makes the facilities in Bryne, Norway possible. The US Soccer Federation should be handsomely rewarding clubs who produce players that make the various national teams and/or play at a high level. They have a lot of money and waste it on their cronies. There is never going to be some sort of government support for youth sports and I wouldn't be in favor of it. Solidarity payments would completely change how youth soccer operates.
I also am not convinced that pick up game culture is the sports culture in Europe. I'm sure there are plenty of kids playing pick up soccer games, but the ones that are good are going to club Academies at young ages.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 13, 2024, 12:20:25 PM
There are plenty of challenges like a lack of population density and no scale for infrastructure and coaching for academies because of the relatively huge lack of professional clubs compared to most of the rest of the world. I like your idea but those other challenges are not easy to solve.is that through scholarships to the academies?For example, I think Sweden has set a great example by partially privatizing their Social Security system.I admit I started it, but let’s not pit this up.
I’m curious what you think about the model for youth sports as compared with our pay to play system. I think rec leagues from our youth are probably overly romanticized but covid for sure killed off MPRD sports in MHK and I think that was a loss for the community.
I also think generally that open gyms or pick up for basketball and regular pick up games for soccer and vital for the health of the sports. I think we are too far gone on baseball in the states but pick up game culture is sports culture for most of the world.
I do not particularly like pay for play. I am most familiar with youth soccer and my thoughts will primarily be based off my experiences in youth soccer.
Nothing is going to change in US youth soccer until there is the introduction of solidarity payments as there is in much of the world of soccer. There is a good chance that this is what makes the facilities in Bryne, Norway possible. The US Soccer Federation should be handsomely rewarding clubs who produce players that make the various national teams and/or play at a high level. They have a lot of money and waste it on their cronies. There is never going to be some sort of government support for youth sports and I wouldn't be in favor of it. Solidarity payments would completely change how youth soccer operates.
I also am not convinced that pick up game culture is the sports culture in Europe. I'm sure there are plenty of kids playing pick up soccer games, but the ones that are good are going to club Academies at young ages.
As far as pick up culture, I don’t pretend to know much about Europe but I would guess it is at least similar to basketball culture here. For poorer countries that have fewer academies there is a very strong pick up culture and I think the problem is we have neither.
I think it is hard to imagine we get kids playing unsupervised in streets and parks given our society’s ability paranoia anti-social parenting culture but maybe we can do a bit better at pick up game culture by starting with more accessible youth sports facilities. I think Manhattan has done some of this hard work with the middle schools and Douglass center, but there is more to be done.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 13, 2024, 12:23:58 PM
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Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2024, 09:10:30 AM
Oof, first AAA tournament of the year did not go well at all. At least my weekend was freed up quite a bit though. :driving:
baseball is a very long season and progress is not made in a straight line. I'm a wealth of these types of talking points when it doesn't involve my own team, where I am just completely meltdowny or fist pumping depending on outcomes.
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2024, 09:11:26 AM
Post by: KST8FAN on April 21, 2024, 10:00:48 AM
I hit an hour of fungo ground balls to our kids yesterday and today my right hand feels like some 80 year old arthritis sufferer second finger knuckle may as well be made of lava.You have a fungo bat, right?
Tom
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Post by: DaBigTrain on April 21, 2024, 12:37:33 PM
I hit fungo to our softball team, I have a fungo bat but don’t know where it is. I also have the 32” one instead of the long one. It gives you a lot more control of where you hit the ball.I hit an hour of fungo ground balls to our kids yesterday and today my right hand feels like some 80 year old arthritis sufferer second finger knuckle may as well be made of lava.You have a fungo bat, right?
Tom
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Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2024, 02:58:26 PM
Yes. 35” drop 13I hit an hour of fungo ground balls to our kids yesterday and today my right hand feels like some 80 year old arthritis sufferer second finger knuckle may as well be made of lava.You have a fungo bat, right?
Tom
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Post by: Spracne on April 21, 2024, 03:02:18 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 21, 2024, 03:08:25 PM
What makes a bat a fungo bat?It’s a wooden bat but the barrel is thinner than a normal bat. Most use a longer bat than you would ever use to actually bat with. The one I have always used is closer to the length of a regular bat. The reason most are long is it takes less energy to hit distance with, and because you swing a lot when hitting grounders and fly balls that make a difference.
Post by: Spracne on April 21, 2024, 03:19:38 PM
What makes a bat a fungo bat?It’s a wooden bat but the barrel is thinner than a normal bat. Most use a longer bat than you would ever use to actually bat with. The one I have always used is closer to the length of a regular bat. The reason most are long is it takes less energy to hit distance with, and because you swing a lot when hitting grounders and fly balls that make a difference.
But stevedore's (I'm not going to correct this autocorrect) is aluminum and looks like a regular bat to me?
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 21, 2024, 03:21:49 PM
He’s not a serious baseball coach.What makes a bat a fungo bat?It’s a wooden bat but the barrel is thinner than a normal bat. Most use a longer bat than you would ever use to actually bat with. The one I have always used is closer to the length of a regular bat. The reason most are long is it takes less energy to hit distance with, and because you swing a lot when hitting grounders and fly balls that make a difference.
But stevedore's (I'm not going to correct this autocorrect) is aluminum and looks like a regular bat to me?