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Re: 202x Coaching Carousel
« Reply #700 on: November 22, 2022, 12:37:10 AM »
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1587795158682173440?s=21

Gosh, hard to see any difference in these two guys. I wonder why Jimbo has a longer leash.
Probably nothing to do with a National Title or $85M buyout.
He didn't win that national championship at A&M, he was in the process of already ruining one program. He went 5-6 at Florida State the season he was hired to take over at A&M. You think they would have given Sumlin that job if he was in the process of missing a bowl game and finishing 6th in the ACC Atlantic division, at Florida State?

Jimbo was given the extension that called for his ridiculous buyout after his third season, he was 17-8 in conference, definitely good, but he didn't even win a division, does that merit a $100 million buyout? Sumlin was also given a generous buyout on his extension but it was nowhere close to $100 million.

I don't think that A&M were explicit in giving Jimbo more money and a longer rope "because he's white." I do think they were wreckless with hiring him and with his extension, in a way that they wouldn't have with Sumlin.

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« Reply #701 on: November 22, 2022, 07:46:37 AM »
Agree.

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« Reply #702 on: November 22, 2022, 08:38:12 AM »
How many games did Sumlin end up coaching before he was fired?

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« Reply #703 on: November 22, 2022, 09:22:50 AM »

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« Reply #704 on: November 22, 2022, 11:10:21 AM »
I'm guessing they fire Jimbo as soon as the buyout drops below $50 million. So 2026 :lol:.

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« Reply #705 on: November 22, 2022, 12:14:39 PM »
How many games did Sumlin end up coaching before he was fired?

51. They were also 7-4 when he was fired. They'd murder a black man walking on their grass for 7-4 right now.

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« Reply #706 on: November 22, 2022, 12:23:01 PM »
How many games did Sumlin end up coaching before he was fired?

51. They were also 7-4 when he was fired. They'd murder a black man walking on their grass for 7-4 right now.

Wiki says his record at A&M was 51 - 26 over 6 seasons.

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« Reply #707 on: November 22, 2022, 12:36:46 PM »
Six seasons for Sumlin means that the weekly record comparisons can continue next year. Yes!!!

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« Reply #708 on: November 22, 2022, 02:57:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1587795158682173440?s=21

Gosh, hard to see any difference in these two guys. I wonder why Jimbo has a longer leash.
Probably nothing to do with a National Title or $85M buyout.
He didn't win that national championship at A&M, he was in the process of already ruining one program. He went 5-6 at Florida State the season he was hired to take over at A&M. You think they would have given Sumlin that job if he was in the process of missing a bowl game and finishing 6th in the ACC Atlantic division, at Florida State?

Jimbo was given the extension that called for his ridiculous buyout after his third season, he was 17-8 in conference, definitely good, but he didn't even win a division, does that merit a $100 million buyout? Sumlin was also given a generous buyout on his extension but it was nowhere close to $100 million.

I don't think that A&M were explicit in giving Jimbo more money and a longer rope "because he's white." I do think they were wreckless with hiring him and with his extension, in a way that they wouldn't have with Sumlin.
Mostly agree. I have little doubt there are some racist decision makers at a&m. However, I don't think that has anything to do with giving Jimbo a stupid contract, and then locking themselves into it for nearly a decade. After all, it was the same admin that gave Sumlin the job first. I think it has more to do with unrealistic expectations, and going scorched earth in pursuit of them. Now they have to sleep in the bed the poo'd in.

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Re: 202x Coaching Carousel
« Reply #709 on: November 22, 2022, 03:03:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1587795158682173440?s=21

Gosh, hard to see any difference in these two guys. I wonder why Jimbo has a longer leash.
Probably nothing to do with a National Title or $85M buyout.
He didn't win that national championship at A&M, he was in the process of already ruining one program. He went 5-6 at Florida State the season he was hired to take over at A&M. You think they would have given Sumlin that job if he was in the process of missing a bowl game and finishing 6th in the ACC Atlantic division, at Florida State?

Jimbo was given the extension that called for his ridiculous buyout after his third season, he was 17-8 in conference, definitely good, but he didn't even win a division, does that merit a $100 million buyout? Sumlin was also given a generous buyout on his extension but it was nowhere close to $100 million.

I don't think that A&M were explicit in giving Jimbo more money and a longer rope "because he's white." I do think they were wreckless with hiring him and with his extension, in a way that they wouldn't have with Sumlin.
Mostly agree. I have little doubt there are some racist decision makers at a&m. However, I don't think that has anything to do with giving Jimbo a stupid contract, and then locking themselves into it for nearly a decade. After all, it was the same admin that gave Sumlin the job first. I think it has more to do with unrealistic expectations, and going scorched earth in pursuit of them. Now they have to sleep in the bed the poo'd in.

His FSU team beat Alabama in the BCS NC and that is what they dream of, hence they get him at all costs.
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« Reply #710 on: November 22, 2022, 03:04:10 PM »
Is his ridiculous contract what they used to lure him from FSU, or did they give him an extension at some point after he joined them?

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« Reply #711 on: November 22, 2022, 03:05:15 PM »
Both. :thumbs:
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« Reply #712 on: November 22, 2022, 03:19:09 PM »
Yeah, they gave him a stupid fully guaranteed contract to get him to leave the dumpster fire he created in FSU then gave him another fully guaranteed extension after they went 9-1 during the COVID year when no one was trying.


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« Reply #713 on: November 22, 2022, 05:53:15 PM »
How many games did Sumlin end up coaching before he was fired?

51. They were also 7-4 when he was fired. They'd murder a black man walking on their grass for 7-4 right now.

Wiki says his record at A&M was 51 - 26 over 6 seasons.
I read that question as wins.

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« Reply #714 on: November 22, 2022, 05:54:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1587795158682173440?s=21

Gosh, hard to see any difference in these two guys. I wonder why Jimbo has a longer leash.
Probably nothing to do with a National Title or $85M buyout.
He didn't win that national championship at A&M, he was in the process of already ruining one program. He went 5-6 at Florida State the season he was hired to take over at A&M. You think they would have given Sumlin that job if he was in the process of missing a bowl game and finishing 6th in the ACC Atlantic division, at Florida State?

Jimbo was given the extension that called for his ridiculous buyout after his third season, he was 17-8 in conference, definitely good, but he didn't even win a division, does that merit a $100 million buyout? Sumlin was also given a generous buyout on his extension but it was nowhere close to $100 million.

I don't think that A&M were explicit in giving Jimbo more money and a longer rope "because he's white." I do think they were wreckless with hiring him and with his extension, in a way that they wouldn't have with Sumlin.
Mostly agree. I have little doubt there are some racist decision makers at a&m. However, I don't think that has anything to do with giving Jimbo a stupid contract, and then locking themselves into it for nearly a decade. After all, it was the same admin that gave Sumlin the job first. I think it has more to do with unrealistic expectations, and going scorched earth in pursuit of them. Now they have to sleep in the bed the poo'd in.

fully agree

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Re: 202x Coaching Carousel
« Reply #716 on: November 22, 2022, 10:10:14 PM »
Yeah, they gave him a stupid fully guaranteed contract to get him to leave the dumpster fire he created in FSU then gave him another fully guaranteed extension after they went 9-1 during the COVID year when no one was trying.

That's the rough ridin' life, getting a crap ton of $$$ with nothing really to show, Charlie Weis should take some notes, except he's wiping his ass with his own millions
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« Reply #718 on: November 23, 2022, 09:42:10 AM »


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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« Reply #719 on: November 23, 2022, 09:47:22 AM »
Very good question, clams. 

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« Reply #720 on: November 23, 2022, 09:50:03 AM »
I think it means that Wisconsin is keeping their interim guy and Nebraska is going with someone else (probably Matt Rhule).

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« Reply #721 on: November 23, 2022, 10:01:56 AM »
Dennis Dodd has reported Rhule turned Neb down but he has been wrong often and Neb's offer is likely to keep increasing as candidates like Leipold use them for leverage.

i am rooting for Bill O'Brien to get it and be the outsider that talks crap on Nebraska and it's tradition as he flames out.

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« Reply #722 on: November 23, 2022, 12:48:48 PM »
Dennis Dodd has reported Rhule turned Neb down but he has been wrong often and Neb's offer is likely to keep increasing as candidates like Leipold use them for leverage.

i am rooting for Bill O'Brien to get it and be the outsider that talks crap on Nebraska and it's tradition as he flames out.
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« Reply #723 on: November 23, 2022, 12:54:02 PM »
Leipold's only received contract extensions, right? His original buyout was only $6 million (think it is $5 million this year), unless they massively increased his buyout, this all means nothing as far as him taking another job.

Did I miss anything on his buyout being increased?


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« Reply #724 on: November 23, 2022, 12:54:50 PM »
Leipold's only received contract extensions, right? His original buyout was only $6 million (think it is $5 million this year), unless they massively increased his buyout, this all means nothing as far as him taking another job.

Did I miss anything on his buyout being increased?

No details have been released, but it has been said (rumored?) that this includes a substantial pay increase and a higher buyout.