The riot to reform police thread

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anytime you have to explain that your slogan doesn't mean what everyone thinks it means, you have a bad slogan.

Sums up my feelings about it

[Spracne]

I say we dismantle the police. Everyone has guns, anyway. If something happens, grab your Judge, run out into the street, and mete out fair and impartial justice. I don't know why we ever moved away from that model in the first place.

[catastrophe]

Libs have always been clamoring to go back to the Wild West smdh

[star seed 7]

anytime you have to explain that your slogan doesn't mean what everyone thinks it means, you have a bad slogan.

Yeah, I have no idea why anyone serious would continue to use it

[Spracne]

Maybe the gE hivemind can help the movement come up with a better slogan. I'll start:

"a down-to-the-studs remodeling of our police departments"

"a reimagining of policing in America centered around empathy and human dignity"

What else we got?

[michigancat]

I like straight up "abolish the police"

[catastrophe]

Black Ball the Boys in Blue

[catastrophe]

eff the Police (in their current formulation, which we will address with major but common sense reform)

[Stevesie60]

so based off browsing Ben Shapiro's twitter this morning, it seems like the go-to conservative response to defunding the police is "what'll you do if someone is breaking into your home?" Like how often do cops prevent home invasions in progress?

the other go-to is "you're going to hurt minority communities!" which is definitely something conservatives have shown is important to them time and time again.

How bizarre, I went through his twitter last night doing the same thing! Mr. "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" sure as eff doesn't seem to acknowledge a lot of facts.

[Phil Titola]

Make Police Great Again

Completely redo the police but stay within the limits of the contracts signed with the unions

Barney Fife the PD

[Spracne]

I like straight up "abolish the police"

The only way to abolish the police is to make policing illegal. Then, one by one, all the police will be arrested by their fellow officers until, eventually, only one officer remains. Then we just shoot that last guy/girl.

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so based off browsing Ben Shapiro's twitter this morning, it seems like the go-to conservative response to defunding the police is "what'll you do if someone is breaking into your home?" Like how often do cops prevent home invasions in progress?

Police hardly ever prevent a home invasion in progress.  They come out and investigate and figure out whodunnit and get everything documented for the prosecutors, and participate as witnesses in the criminal case.

To answer Ben's question, in a world of abolished "police," 911 would still be called but the crew coming out to the house would be the sheriff's office, featuring a bunch of the ex-police.

[michigancat]

To answer Ben's question, in a world of abolished "police," 911 would still be called but the crew coming out to the house would be the sheriff's office, featuring a bunch of the ex-police.

that might be how it ended up in Camden but I don't think it's what people want

[Spracne]

Firefighters usually show up for 911 calls anyway. What if we abolish the police and just fold them into the fire department and call the combined group the Public Safety Department? Everyone trusts firefighters way more than cops.

[8manpick]

I kinda like "Down to the Studs"

[cfbandyman]

Firefighters usually show up for 911 calls anyway. What if we abolish the police and just fold them into the fire department and call the combined group the Public Safety Department? Everyone trusts firefighters way more than cops.

Committee of Public Safety (though they have been acting like that to the black community for a while, might as well call a spade a spade)

[DQ12]

so based off browsing Ben Shapiro's twitter this morning, it seems like the go-to conservative response to defunding the police is "what'll you do if someone is breaking into your home?" Like how often do cops prevent home invasions in progress?

I wonder what home invasions would look like in the absence of police or the threat of police. 

[michigancat]

Firefighters usually show up for 911 calls anyway. What if we abolish the police and just fold them into the fire department and call the combined group the Public Safety Department? Everyone trusts firefighters way more than cops.

https://twitter.com/dreamboum/status/1269727002828902401

[mocat]

I kinda like "Down to the Studs"

that's very good

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I don't think it's what people want

Even here, the "police abolitionist" who ran for city council lost.  He was the only out of the seven libbier candidates to lose.  The most extreme it could possibly get would for dangerous, true criminal law enforcement to shift to a people-elected sheriff's office, while other duties are done by a very different city police or sets of non-police city departments.

[Spracne]

Maybe we should privatize police forces. All contracts are awarded for one year, and voters get to vote to extend the contracts for another year or bring in a different police force.

[CHONGS]

I guess we'll find out who the real libertarians are.

[michigancat]

so based off browsing Ben Shapiro's twitter this morning, it seems like the go-to conservative response to defunding the police is "what'll you do if someone is breaking into your home?" Like how often do cops prevent home invasions in progress?

I wonder what home invasions would look like in the absence of police or the threat of police. 

I imagine pretty similar assuming there is still a threat of prosecution.

[michigancat]

I guess we'll find out who the real libertarians are.

spracs isn't taking this well

[catastrophe]

so based off browsing Ben Shapiro's twitter this morning, it seems like the go-to conservative response to defunding the police is "what'll you do if someone is breaking into your home?" Like how often do cops prevent home invasions in progress?

Police hardly ever prevent a home invasion in progress.  They come out and investigate and figure out whodunnit and get everything documented for the prosecutors, and participate as witnesses in the criminal case.

To answer Ben's question, in a world of abolished "police," 911 would still be called but the crew coming out to the house would be the sheriff's office, featuring a bunch of the ex-police.

Might be different since it involves a suspect already on the run (and I live close to a PD), but someone in my neighborhood did call the cops and have a suspect apprehended in her back yard who was trying to get in.